Marshall Coming To Ravens?

[WACKO4FLACC0]

Okay this is what I want to know, I havnt been on this site in awhile to keep me in the loop...so what is going on with this Marshall trade? Are the Ravens even looking at him...I heard from NFL network them talking about us being in the mix but thats the only thing ive heard...has the OZ said anything about this?
I mean it seems like a good fit for the Ravens other than the off the field issues he has had but you can always change at least change enough to not get yourself in trouble .... Are they asking for 1st round pick and more or what?
Also kinda like the new site layout....also RIP MJ
Thanks for the replies

[1/28/01]

[quote name='WACKO4FLACC0' date='25 June 2009 - 11:33 PM' timestamp='1245987209' post='203701']
Okay this is what I want to know, I havnt been on this site in awhile to keep me in the loop...so what is going on with this Marshall trade? Are the Ravens even looking at him...I heard from NFL network them talking about us being in the mix but thats the only thing ive heard...has the OZ said anything about this?
I mean it seems like a good fit for the Ravens other than the off the field issues he has had but you can always change at least change enough to not get yourself in trouble .... Are they asking for 1st round pick and more or what?
Also kinda like the new site layout....also RIP MJ
Thanks for the replies
[/quote]

Just an opinion here, but not worth the risk AT ALL.

Horrible character and really shouldn't even be allowed the gift of playing a sport and being paid very well for doing so. Something like 13 questionings in 2 years from the police about altercations with women. Reall good guy here.....

Dude will never be a Raven. Ozzie and Harbs will not allow it.

[Alexir]

People change it's not like he MURDERED someone or was convicted of OBSTRUCTION OF JUSTICE...give me a break

[justifythegame]

Because of all his legal problems, i think the Ravens were trying to see if they can get him for a very low price, like a mid round draft pick. Apparantley they were researching Marshall's background a bit. But the Broncos are not going to part with Marshall unless a first and possible third is offered thanks to idiots like Jerry Jones... and combined with that and Marshall's history its just not the right fit. I'm sure the Ravens would much rather spend the same draft picks on Boldin who has no history like Marshall.

Being a distraction and problem on the field like T.O. is one thing, and Harbaugh draws the line at players like that to begin with, but to have a history of arrests, and criminal behavior is MUCH worse. After trading picks for a player such as that, you are risking multiple things, like suspensions that may come, future arrests, and multiple problems. T.O and others have big mouths, but at least they will be there for every game and not in jail and get production out of them. Brandon Marshall is the definition of the worst of the worst, he actually missed 2 games because of a suspension last year. How can any team invest so much in such a player?

The Ravens are so desperate for a receiver, more so than any team in the NFL right now, that any WR becoming available causes rumors in bmore. Aquiring Marshall would be very uncharacteristic of this team, especially with Harbs as the HC. He only wants players with high character, and Marshall is the exact opposite.

We can say this and that to convince ourselves it would be a good move, but if you really know ozzie and the front office, you would know that this is not happening.

[Jesse Conroy]

All I am saying is Marshall didnt make the Broncos lose because of a few legal problems, he was a good asset to the team talent wise, and I believe hed be a good one to our team as well.

[GermanRavensFan]

http://www.baltimoreravens.com/News/Articles/2009/06/Whats_the_Risk_With_Character.aspx

Great article here!!

If someone does not fit in the "Ravens way", he will never be a Raven!

Ravens football is more that just football... that's what I love about our team!

[Rinbee]

[quote name='GermanRavensFan' date='26 June 2009 - 03:04 AM' timestamp='1245999851' post='203719']
http://www.baltimoreravens.com/News/Articles/2009/06/Whats_the_Risk_With_Character.aspx

Great article here!!

If someone does not fit in the "Ravens way", he will never be a Raven!

Ravens football is more that just football... that's what I love about our team!
[/quote]


Agreed. Maybe if every team felt the same way we would not have people like TO, Marshall, Pacman..... to deal with. Maybe this is why the Suggs situation is taking a while to resolve. Maybe he is showing his true character adn Oz doesn't like what he sees.

[Twoo]

I've said this a DOZEN times... Ozzie is going to draft a receiver in the 2010 draft- I assure you. The 2010 draft is DEEP with receivers, unlike this years draft was.

http://thebullgator.blogspot.com/2009/05/2010-nfl-draft-prospects-wide-receivers.html

Take a look at the wideouts entering the 2010 draft then tell me if you still want Marshall.

[lowrider]

[quote name='Twoo' date='26 June 2009 - 08:44 AM' timestamp='1246020263' post='203731']
I've said this a DOZEN times... Ozzie is going to draft a receiver in the 2010 draft- I assure you. The 2010 draft is DEEP with receivers, unlike this years draft was.

http://thebullgator.blogspot.com/2009/05/2010-nfl-draft-prospects-wide-receivers.html

Take a look at the wideouts entering the 2010 draft then tell me if you still want Marshall.
[/quote]
Granted the 2010 draft is deep and ozzie is going to draft a wide reciever; but why wait when you could fill the weakness now. Wide reciever is our only glaring weakness and filling that this year would jump start our offense. Not only that, rookies take awhile to develop at wide reciever. Even the best wide recievers, don't come in as rookies and put up the numbers that would lead our team to the super bowl. So getting a star wide reciever now, would save us a lot of problems.

Then again, the idea of we only need one more player to take us to the super bowl and win it for us isn't really true. Football is so much of a team sport that, that one player is never a 'need'. The Ravens are so close, but trying to force something isn't always the best move. Especially wide reciever. I heard an expert say that in football, you work from the inside out. Referring to working from the inside of the football line of scrimmage to the outside. Wide reciever is important but there are other positions more important, and i feel our wide recievers now will do a solid job.

http://www.baltimoreravens.com/News/Articles/2009/06/Whats_the_Risk_With_Character.aspx

Interesting article by Duffy. Picking a wide reciever with bad character sounds like the defination of boom or bust.

[WACKO4FLACC0]

[quote name='Alexir' date='25 June 2009 - 11:01 PM' timestamp='1245988919' post='203706']
People change it's not like he MURDERED someone or was convicted of OBSTRUCTION OF JUSTICE...give me a break
[/quote]
EXACTLY thank you I was just about to write that when I read his post lol...no one turned their back on Ray when he was convicted...

[WACKO4FLACC0]

[quote name='lowrider' date='26 June 2009 - 08:02 AM' timestamp='1246021369' post='203733']
Granted the 2010 draft is deep and ozzie is going to draft a wide reciever; but why wait when you could fill the weakness now. Wide reciever is our only glaring weakness and filling that this year would jump start our offense. Not only that, rookies take awhile to develop at wide reciever. Even the best wide recievers, don't come in as rookies and put up the numbers that would lead our team to the super bowl. So getting a star wide reciever now, would save us a lot of problems.

Then again, the idea of we only need one more player to take us to the super bowl and win it for us isn't really true. Football is so much of a team sport that, that one player is never a 'need'. The Ravens are so close, but trying to force something isn't always the best move. Especially wide reciever. I heard an expert say that in football, you work from the inside out. Referring to working from the inside of the football line of scrimmage to the outside. Wide reciever is important but there are other positions more important, and i feel our wide recievers now will do a solid job.

http://www.baltimoreravens.com/News/Articles/2009/06/Whats_the_Risk_With_Character.aspx

Interesting article by Duffy. Picking a wide reciever with bad character sounds like the defination of boom or bust.
[/quote]
I agree 100% because the fact is that we can get a veteran that can fill the spot now and can get us moving in the right direction.
Even if its a 1yr deal with Marshall and than you can survey his behavior and resign if it works out good...also the defense isnt getting any younger and soon ray and reed will be out the door.

[WACKO4FLACC0]

[quote name='GermanRavensFan' date='26 June 2009 - 02:04 AM' timestamp='1245999851' post='203719']
http://www.baltimoreravens.com/News/Articles/2009/06/Whats_the_Risk_With_Character.aspx

Great article here!!

If someone does not fit in the "Ravens way", he will never be a Raven!

Ravens football is more that just football... that's what I love about our team!
[/quote]
Okay for one thing im all about team and all that stuff but lets face it we have NO ONE to help out Mason...some are going to say Clayton, but he hasnt shown anything to impress anyone, you list me the games in which he did great last year and I'll show you struggling teams.

I actually had great hopes for D Williams but he has been injured and not playing well...so we going to hope he shows up this year to play.

I mean come on we have to get this WR thing straightened out...we have Flacco who played great last year..Our secondary that is much improved from last year...we picked up a new tackle for Flacco..Rice coming back...LJ Smith to help out Heap..and our D-line is just as dominate as it was last year along with the leadership of Ray...We can make a run at the Super Bowl but if we dont get someone to help us out on Offense I guarantee we do the same thing we did last year...make it to the playoffs and lose

We have everything in position to be a great football team and make a run for the Bowl the problem is we need to be able to help the defense out by putting points on the board and giving them time to rest on the side lines and so far we have the running game and Mason

Its not like Marshall is a team destroyer like TO or something he just had some legal issues which many players have had including the heart and soul of the Ravens team RAY LEWIS!

[Bullrush]

People act like Marshall just ran over 20 kids with his truck or something. Give me a break. Every time he got arrested the charges were dropped again i believe. The NFL suspended him for one game. All the stuff that people talk about is stuff from 2-7 years ago. The guy is 24, he made mistakes.

[wayne]

[quote name='Bullrush' date='26 June 2009 - 07:17 PM' timestamp='1246061860' post='203915']
People act like Marshall just ran over 20 kids with his truck or something. Give me a break. Every time he got arrested the charges were dropped again i believe. The NFL suspended him for one game. All the stuff that people talk about is stuff from 2-7 years ago. The guy is 24, he made mistakes.

[Ravensfan23]

His Character is an issue but i don't think that will guarantee that he won't be here. Yes Harbs loves character guys and Marshall has had some arrest, but i think if the Ravens think Marshall could help they will do all of their homework.

After that point if they think the kid has the potential to grow from the mistakes he's made and Harbs, Ozzie, and MR. B thinks he's worth the risk then they'll bring him along.

Also think about this. Since Harbs has been the head coach, the Ravens have picked up 2 players that had a bit of trouble in their past. Fabian Washington was arrested for getting into it with his girlfriend and LarDarius Webb had some troubles involving nightclubs in college. In both cases the Ravens did their homework and dicided to pull the trigger on both guys.

Now i'm not saying that Marshall will be a Ravens, cause i don't think it will happen(this year). However i do think that if he came to Baltimore he would give us that dominate #1 WR and open more things up for this offense.

I don't think that it is 100% set in stone that Brandon Marshall won't be a Raven because of his off field issues, but if the FO does their homework and don't think that Marshall can/will learn from his pervious mistakes then they won't waste their time.

[TheRavenouseD2008]

[quote name='WACKO4FLACC0' date='26 June 2009 - 07:40 PM' timestamp='1246059637' post='203907']
EXACTLY thank you I was just about to write that when I read his post lol...no one turned their back on Ray when he was convicted...
[/quote]


Ray was Aquitted not convicted , means he was found not guilty by lack of evidence and contrary supporting evidence stating from 3 officers that he was trying to pull the guys off from stabbing the guy get your facts straight read the info on the web you are no ravens fan point out cause you would know the facts

and for the rest of you who think beating women is ok its not , Marshall has had 30+ altercations with the police since he was a kid this shows this man is a damaged product , a tv with too many stuck pixels to play 360 , deffective with lack of warentee , I believe yes some can change but last year marshall proved he cant he isnt willing too. dont compare him to ray , we let jamal go cause he refused to change after we found out he was the way he was , same with bam morris , you dont fit hit the bricks no room for criminals .

[justifythegame]

[quote name='Twoo' date='26 June 2009 - 08:44 AM' timestamp='1246020263' post='203731']
I've said this a DOZEN times... Ozzie is going to draft a receiver in the 2010 draft- I assure you. The 2010 draft is DEEP with receivers, unlike this years draft was.

http://thebullgator.blogspot.com/2009/05/2010-nfl-draft-prospects-wide-receivers.html

Take a look at the wideouts entering the 2010 draft then tell me if you still want Marshall.
[/quote]
We're going to get the best receiver to enter a draft since Calvin Johnson.... DEZ BRYANTTTT!!

[kris21054]

[quote name='justifythegame' date='26 June 2009 - 10:38 PM' timestamp='1246070286' post='203927']
We're going to get the best receiver to enter a draft since Calvin Johnson.... DEZ BRYANTTTT!!
[/quote]

see i dont know if i want to take the chance of getting a good receiver there is no guarntee that we will get a great one at pick 26 also if we can have pick 26 for 2 years in a row i will take that over one year

[darklight1216]

[quote name='Twoo' date='26 June 2009 - 08:44 AM' timestamp='1246020263' post='203731']
I've said this a DOZEN times... Ozzie is going to draft a receiver in the 2010 draft- I assure you. The 2010 draft is DEEP with receivers, unlike this years draft was.

http://thebullgator.blogspot.com/2009/05/2010-nfl-draft-prospects-wide-receivers.html

Take a look at the wideouts entering the 2010 draft then tell me if you still want Marshall.
[/quote]
Wasn't Ozzie going to draft a wide receiver in the receiver deep class of 2009?

[Alexir]

The 2009 WR class wasn't that grand to begin with, even the critics said that. I want ozzie to draft Brandon Spikes next year so we can keep that image of being a fierce defense. I rather have an amazing defense than a great offense.

[Ravenskid2085]

You know at first, I really wanted Brandon Marshall. I really did. But now, I'm not so sure. When I first thought about it, I thought about a super bowl win this year. But then, I thought about the headace he could cause. I love the way our team is built right now, our locker room has some of the best chemistry in the NFL, and I don't want Brandon Marshall to come screw that up. I feel like we should wait until we can acquire a wideout or pick another solid one through free agency, that wont be a risk like Marshall. I know thats probobly alot of peoples opinions, and alot of people disagree, but I feel like that it would be in the best interest of the team not to pursue Marshall.

[TheRavenouseD2008]

remember they said there was only 1 good QB last yesr, who was wrong , didnt we pick up some one from towson?

[Alexir]

[quote name='TheRavenouseD2008' date='27 June 2009 - 01:47 AM' timestamp='1246081644' post='203942']
remember they said there was only 1 good QB last yesr, who was wrong , didnt we pick up some one from towson?
[/quote]

huh? are you talking about Tommy Breaux?

[BloodRaven]

He would give us a physical edge to our recieving game. I love the idea of him going over the middle, beating the corner then trucking Polamalu. Our offense needs to get dominant and physical.

[WACKO4FLACC0]

[quote name='TheRavenouseD2008' date='26 June 2009 - 09:30 PM' timestamp='1246069831' post='203926']
[b]Ray was Aquitted not convicted , means he was found not guilty by lack of evidence and contrary supporting evidence stating from 3 officers that he was trying to pull the guys off from stabbing the guy[/b] [u]get your facts[/u] straight read the info on the web you are no ravens fan point out cause you would know the facts
[/quote]
How about you get your facts straight. for one thing he did plea guilty to obstruction of justice, and testified against the other 2. He was not guilty found guilty of murder which I never said he was.

[WACKO4FLACC0]

[quote name='Ravenskid2085' date='27 June 2009 - 12:21 AM' timestamp='1246080109' post='203939']
You know at first, I really wanted Brandon Marshall. I really did. But now, I'm not so sure. When I first thought about it, I thought about a super bowl win this year. But then, I thought about the headace he could cause. I love the way our team is built right now, our locker room has some of the best chemistry in the NFL, and I don't want Brandon Marshall to come screw that up. I feel like we should wait until we can acquire a wideout or pick another solid one through free agency, that wont be a risk like Marshall. I know thats probobly alot of peoples opinions, and alot of people disagree, but I feel like that it would be in the best interest of the team not to pursue Marshall.
[/quote]
I am not saying that we need to sign Marshall to a 5 year deal by any means im just saying even if we sign him for something like 1-2 years we can look at what he has done, if he is getting his life back on track we keep him and if not we get rid of him. I think there is more good than bad to come from Marshall.
I dont think that one person can ruin a team's chemistry it takes more than just one person to bring a whole team down.

[WACKO4FLACC0]

[quote name='darklight1216' date='26 June 2009 - 10:56 PM' timestamp='1246074984' post='203934']
Wasn't Ozzie going to draft a wide receiver in the receiver deep class of 2009?
[/quote]
2009 wasnt even that deep of a draft class over all... I really thought we would go for Nicks but obviously not.

[WACKO4FLACC0]

Okay just to add a few more names that the Ravens could pursue if we decide that Marshall isnt worth the risk....Plax is still out there but with the same problem as Marshall and is still in big trouble with the commissioner....Marvin Harrison, thinking of retiring but we could try to see if he still has some football left in him...Drew Bennett, a WR with good hands but injury issues but could help alot in the quick short passing game plus wont cost a lot of cap room to bring in

[edreedfromtheu]

[quote name='WACKO4FLACC0' date='27 June 2009 - 06:34 AM' timestamp='1246098871' post='203957']
How about you get your facts straight. for one thing he did plea guilty to obstruction of justice, and testified against the other 2. He was not guilty found guilty of murder which I never said he was.
[/quote]

NO! The guy had it right the first time. You should get YOUR facts right. Just because you plead guilty to something doesn't mean you're guilty. Truth is, the "justice system" isn't just at all... and if someone offers you a bargain where you basically just have to pay some fines, maybe some community service... and you're rich, then you're going to do it because it's easier. It gets the whole issue over with so you can move on with your life.

We don't need people like you digging up stuff like this. It's worse than any sort of trolling behavior. Go find a Steelers message board, as I'm sure they would love to discuss it there.

[Ravenskid2085]

[quote name='WACKO4FLACC0' date='27 June 2009 - 06:38 AM' timestamp='1246099097' post='203958']
I am not saying that we need to sign Marshall to a 5 year deal by any means im just saying even if we sign him for something like 1-2 years we can look at what he has done, if he is getting his life back on track we keep him and if not we get rid of him. I think there is more good than bad to come from Marshall.
I dont think that one person can ruin a team's chemistry it takes more than just one person to bring a whole team down.
[/quote]
I'm not saying he's going to bring the whole team down, but he could hurt it. We dont need a drama queen in Baltimore. He can go to Dallas for that.