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It amazing how hard people are on Willis, he may have been a back up in the Pro bowl but that doesnt take anything away from him 2007 he had a great year! One season he did bad and now he's injury prone?! After his bad injury in college nobody expected him to go first round but he did nobody expected him to recover but he did. '08 was a bad year which in the NFL it happens people get injured it's apart of the game. I know Willis will be back and have a monster year, If he could be the monster he was in '07 with that horrible offensive line imagine what he will do Healthy with the line he has this year. I know Willis personally and he has been working his butt off to be in shape this offseason and because of all the people that doubt him he's ready more than ever to show the people that doubt him just like he proved the people wrong that doubted his ability after he was injured the first time. Can't wait to see Willis in action '09. Stop hating on Willis
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For the QB spot

I would think that before the season starts it will eventually end up with
1) Flacco, 2) Beck, & 3) Smith

It seems Beck is better suited to Cam's system, used to play for Cam in Miami, was a 2nd round pick, and put up better QB numbers than Smith in college
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[quote name='52Kia Kaha92' date='11 July 2009 - 06:17 AM' timestamp='1247307454' post='205955']
No its not a joke. Yes i have 4 UDFA's making the roster. It was a shock Ellerbe didnt get drafted aswell as Gano. Jameel McClain, Bart Scott where udfa's so whats the big deal. Whats UDFA's got to do with "making an AFCCG roster"?? :huh:

Well the way i see it Webb is the better returner and Carr is overpaid to be a backup returner and dime cornerback. Washington just depth for the minimum. And for your information we have 80 guys signed and lots of which where signed this year that wont make the cut. ;)

Yes Gibson isnt on our team but this time last year neither was Willie Anderson or Lamar Divens who ended up there on opening day. :P

You appreciate my try?? since when are you top dog around here. :huh: Thats my opinion and i took a few wild cards but last year who expected Anwar phillips to make the opening day roster??

There are always surprises.
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i just question that you have us releasing two guys that we just signed in free agency. we would have to pay them their guaranteed salaries this year without them even being in jersey once. that kinda thing just doesn't happen. my other issue is with all of these undrafted guys, i like all of them as well. they seem like promising prospects that could be the next bart scott, but that is what the practice squad is for. 7th rounders don't even usually make our squad, let alone four guys that weren't drafted.i love ellerbe, gerard, riley, and a few others but i can not justify having them on the squad over carr, washington, or even frank walker. we put them on the PS for a year and then bring them up, but i dont see all of them making the final cut in their first go-around.
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[quote name='PSU RAVEN' date='11 July 2009 - 04:02 PM' timestamp='1247320935' post='205964']
For the QB spot

I would think that before the season starts it will eventually end up with
1) Flacco, 2) Beck, & 3) Smith

It seems Beck is better suited to Cam's system, used to play for Cam in Miami, was a 2nd round pick, and put up better QB numbers than Smith in college
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Smith had way better stats unless you just want to compare their senior season (pretty similar). But there's one big difference: Smith put up those numbers at the highest level possible (Ohio St.). Beck played at Brigham Young.
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[quote]As players and coaches descended to Westminster, Md., for the start of Ravens training camp, the team waived tight end [url="http://www.baltimoreravens.com/People/Players/Active/Quinn_Sypniewski.aspx"][b]Quinn Sypniewski[/b][/url]. [/quote]
http://www.baltimoreravens.com/News/Articles/2009/07/Ravens_Waive_Sypniewski.aspx

Bummer, i liked the guy. Great guy, good blocker. Hopefully he'll be back at some point.
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Horrible injury. It is really sad. He (like Musa Smith) had so much talent only to get knocked out of the game early due to a nasty injury.
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[quote name='Moderator 3' date='27 July 2009 - 01:41 PM' timestamp='1248716510' post='210499']
Horrible injury. It is really sad. He (like Musa Smith) had so much talent only to get knocked out of the game early due to a nasty injury.
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lets not forget our returner in 2007 that nasty break in the lower leg I remember the image I hate seeing player ours or another go down like that
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[quote name='Bullrush' date='24 June 2009 - 07:20 PM' timestamp='1245885634' post='203389']
We did this the past two years ([url="http://boards.baltimoreravens.com/index.php?showtopic=263&st=0&p=2276&fromsearch=1&#entry2276"]2007 Thread[/url] , [url="http://boards.baltimoreravens.com/index.php?showtopic=3076&st=0&p=47523&fromsearch=1&#entry47523"]2008 Thread[/url]) so let's make it three in a row now. This should help people to keep an eye on our roster and to sort of see what the depth chart is gonna look like.
[b]
[/b][center][b]Latest Transactions: [/b]
[u][b]Wide Receiver:[/b][/u]
#89 | Mark Clayton | 5th year (26)
#87 | Demetrius Williams | 4th year (26)
#81 | Marcus Smith | 2nd year (24)
#15 | Kelley Washington | 7th year (29)
(PUP) #16 | Yamon Figurs | 3rd year (27)
#14 | Justin Harper | 2nd year (24)
_______________________________
[i]
#17 | Ernie Wheelwright | 2nd year (24)
#18 | Edward Williams | 2nd year (26)
#13 | Eron Riley | Rookie (21)
#2 | Isaiah Williams | Rookie (22)[/i]
[i]#8 | Biren Ealy | 3rd year (25)[/i]
[i]#00 | Jayson Foster | 2nd year (24)[/i]

[/quote]

WR Eward Williams was cut last Wednesday
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Bump.

[b]July, 30th
[/b]Placed [b]WR Kelley Washington[/b] on PUP ; Activated [b]OG Ben Grubbs[/b], [b]RB Willis McGahee[/b] from PUP ; Signed [b]WR Thomas White[/b].
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[quote name='mcgahee23' date='11 July 2009 - 09:54 AM' timestamp='1247320499' post='205962']
It amazing how hard people are on Willis, he may have been a back up in the Pro bowl but that doesnt take anything away from him 2007 he had a great year! One season he did bad and now he's injury prone?! After his bad injury in college nobody expected him to go first round but he did nobody expected him to recover but he did. '08 was a bad year which in the NFL it happens people get injured it's apart of the game. I know Willis will be back and have a monster year, If he could be the monster he was in '07 with that horrible offensive line imagine what he will do Healthy with the line he has this year. I know Willis personally and he has been working his butt off to be in shape this offseason and because of all the people that doubt him he's ready more than ever to show the people that doubt him just like he proved the people wrong that doubted his ability after he was injured the first time. Can't wait to see Willis in action '09. Stop hating on Willis
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I agree. In 2008, Willis suffered a number of injuries. Some of them were really freak accidents that rarely happen. If he can stay healthy this year(which he should with Rice taking away catches), he could have a very productive season. I've said it before but he's great pass blocker, serviceable out of the backfield and a good slasher.
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[quote name='TheRavenouseD2008' date='28 July 2009 - 05:59 PM' timestamp='1248818378' post='211039']
lets not forget our returner in 2007 that nasty break in the lower leg I remember the image I hate seeing player ours or another go down like that
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BJ SAMS was a beast until that! I heard he might be playing in the UFL for San Fran.
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Marshal Yanda & Ed Reed activated from PUP again. I thought Yanda would miss the entire season or at least the first 6-8 weeks so this is pretty surprising. But great to hear obviously. Not sure what his role is gonna be, though. RT is not an option anymore, neither is Center or LG. He'll have to battle Chester. Sucks that we can't have them both on the field anymore but that's how good our O-Line will be this season. No weak links anymore.
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[size="3"][b]Offense[/b][/size]

[left][u][b]Quarterback:[/b][/u]
#5 | Joe Flacco | 2nd year (24)
#10 | Troy Smith | 3rd year (24)
#12 | John Beck | 3rd year (27)

[u][b]Running Back:
[/b][/u]#27 | Ray Rice | 2nd year (22)
#23| Willis Mcgahee| 7th year (27)
#38 | Cedric Pearman | Rookie (22)
_______________________________

[i]#34 | Jalen Parmele | 2nd year (23)
#32 | Matt Lawrence | 2nd year (24)[/i]

[u][b]Fullback:[/b][/u][b]
[/b]#33 | Leron Mclain | 2nd year (24)
_______________________________
[i]#39 | Jason Cook | Rookie (23) [/i]

[u][b]Wide Receiver:[/b][/u]
#89 | Mark Clayton | 5th year (26)
#87 | Demetrius Williams | 4th year (26)
#81 | Marcus Smith | 2nd year (24)
#15 | Kelley Washington | 7th year (29)
#16 | Justin Harper | 2rd year (24)
#14 | Yamon Figurs | 3nd year (27)
_______________________________
[i]
#17 | Ernie Wheelwright | 2nd year (24)
#13 | Eron Riley | Rookie (21)[/i]
[i]#8 | Biren Ealy | 3rd year (25)[/i]
[i]#00 | Jayson Foster | 2nd year (24)[/i]
[i]#00 | Thomas White | Rookie (23)[/i]


[u][b]Tight End:
[/b][/u]#86 | Todd Heap | 9th year (29)
#82 | L.J. Smith | 7th year (29)
#83 | Davon Drew | Rookie (23)
_______________________________
[i]

#80 | Isaac Smolko | 2nd year (26)[/i]


[u][b]Left Tackle:
[/b][/u]#71 | Jared Gaither | 3rd year (23)
#78 | Adam Terry | 5th year (26)
_______________________________

[i]#76 | Joe Reitz | 2nd year (23)[/i]

[u][b]Left Guard:
[/b][/u]#66 | Ben Grubbs | 3rd year (25)
#63 | Tre' Stallings | 2nd year (26)
____________________________


[i]#69 | Stefan Rodgers | 3rd year (27)[/i]


[u][b]Center:
[/b][/u]#77 | Matt Birk | 12th year (32)
#62 | David Hale | 2nd year (26)
_______________________________

[i]#60 | Robby Felix | Rookie (23)[/i]

[u][b]Right Guard:[/b][/u]
#73 | Marshal Yanda | 3rd year (24)
#65 | Chris Chester | 4th year (26)


[u][b]Right Tackle:
[/b][/u]#74 | Michael Oher | Rookie (23)
#64 | Oniel Cousins | 2nd year (25)
_______________________________






[center][size="3"][b]Defense[/b][/size]
[left]
[u][b]Left Defensive End:
[/b][/u]#90 | Trevor Pryce | 13th year (33)
#93 | Dwan Edwards | 6th year (28)


[u][b]Nose Tackle / Defensive Tackle:
[/b][/u]
#97 | Kelly Gregg | 10th year (32)
#91 | Brandon McKinney | 4th year (25)
#96 | Lamar Divens | 2nd year (23)
_______________________________

[i]#98 | Kelly Talavou | 2nd year (24)[/i]


[u][b]Right Defensive End:[/b][/u]
#92 | Haloti Ngata | 4th year (25)
#94 | Justin Bannan | 8th year (30)

_______________________________

[i]#67 | Will Johnson | Rookie (23)
#72 | Bryan Mattison | 2nd year (25)[/i]

[u][b]Left Outside Linebacker:
[/b][/u]#95 | Jarret Johnson | 7th year (27)
#99 | Paul Kruger | Rookie (23)

[u][b]Strong Inside Linebacker:
[/b][/u] #52 | Ray Lewis | 14th year (34)
(PUP) #58 | Jason Phillips | Rookie (23)
#51 | Brendon Ayanbadejo | 7th year (32)
_______________________________

[i]#45 | Tony Fein | Rookie (26)[/i]

[u][b]Weak Inside Linebacker:
[/b][/u]#56 | Tavares Gooden | 2nd year (24)
#53 | Jameel McClain | 2nd year (23)
_______________________________

[i]#54 | Prescott Burgess | 3rd year (25)[/i]
[i]#48 | Dannell Ellerbe | Rookie (23)[/i]


[u][b]Right Outside Linebacker:
[/b][/u]#55 | Terrell Suggs | 7th year (26)
#50 | Antwan Barnes | 3rd year (24)

_______________________________

[i]#68 | William VanDeSteeg | Rookie (23)[/i]

[u][b]Cornerback:
[/b][/u]#31 | Fabian Washington | 5th year (26)
#24 | Domonique Foxworth | 5th year (26)
#22 | Samari Rolle | 12th year (32)
#41 | Frank Walker | 7th year (27)
#30 | Chris Carr | 5th year (26)
#21 | Lardarius Webb | Rookie (23)
_______________________________

[i]#29 | Derrick Martin | 4th year (24)
#25 | Evan Oglesby | 4th year (27)[/i]

[u][b]Free Safety:
[/b][/u]#20 | Ed Reed | 8th year (30)
#43 | Haruki Nakamura | 2nd year (23)
_______________________________

[i]#40 | K.J. Gerard | Rookie (23)[/i]

[u][b]Strong Safety:
[/b][/u]#26 | Dawan Landry | 4th year (26)
#28 | Tom Zbikowski | 2nd year (24)




[center][b][size="3"]Special Teams[/size][/b] (3 | 4 Total)

[left][u][b]Kicker:
[/b][/u]#7 | Graham Gano | Rookie (22)
_______________________________
[i]#6 | Steve Hauschka | 2nd year (24)[/i]


[u][b]Punter:
[/b][/u]#4 | Sam Koch | 4th year (26)

[u][b]Long Snapper:
[/b][/u]#70 | Matt Katula | 5th year (26)






[/center][/left][/center][/left][/center][/left] [/center]


that's my predicted roster, but I'm two guys over. IDK, I'd probably cut Figurs and Divens.
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[size="3"][b]Offense[/b][/size]

[left][u][b]Quarterback:[/b][/u]
#5 | Joe Flacco | 2nd year (24)
#10 | Troy Smith | 3rd year (24) John Beck was/is terrible, He is like Boller but with a noodle arm


[u][b]Running Back:
[/b][/u]
#23| Willis Mcgahee| 7th year (27) Willis and Ray will basically be like Smash and Dash
#27 | Ray Rice | 2nd year (22)
#38 | Cedric Pearman | Rookie (22)
_______________________________
Real close between Parmele and Cedric
[i]#34 | Jalen Parmele | 2nd year (23)


[u][b]Fullback:[/b][/u][b]
[/b]#33 | Leron Mclain | 2nd year (24)
_______________________________
[i]#39 | Jason Cook | Rookie (23) [/i]

[u][b]Wide Receiver:[/b][/u]
#85 | Derrick Mason He will be back. I ll put money on it as soon as Ozzie does.
#89 | Mark Clayton |
#14 | Justin Harper |
#87 | Demetrius Williams|
#17 | Ernie Wheelwright|
#81 | Marcus Smith (didnt see a single impressive thing about him at camp but figured he might pull through at the end.)

_______________________________
[i]

[u][b]Tight End:
[/b][/u]#86 | Todd Heap | 9th year (29)
#82 | L.J. Smith | 7th year (29) If he ever gets on the field, Smolko looked alright yesterday though
#83 | Davon Drew | Rookie (23)
#84 | Edgar Jones
_______________________________
[i]




[u][b]Left Tackle:
[/b][/u]#71 | Jared Gaither | 3rd year (23)
#78 | Adam Terry | 5th year (26)
_______________________________

[i]#76 | Joe Reitz | 2nd year (23)[/i]

[u][b]Left Guard:
[/b][/u]#66 | Ben Grubbs | 3rd year (25)
#63 | Tre' Stallings | 2nd year (26)
____________________________


[i]#69 | Stefan Rodgers | 3rd year (27)[/i]


[u][b]Center:
[/b][/u]#77 | Matt Birk | 12th year (32)
#62 | David Hale | 2nd year (26)
_______________________________

[i]#60 | Robby Felix | Rookie (23)[/i]

[u][b]Right Guard:[/b][/u]
#73 | Marshal Yanda | 3rd year (24)
#65 | Chris Chester | 4th year (26)


[u][b]Right Tackle:
[/b][/u]#74 | Michael Oher | Rookie (23)
#64 | Oniel Cousins | 2nd year (25)
_______________________________






[center][size="3"][b]Defense[/b][/size]
[left]
[u][b]Left Defensive End:
[/b][/u]#90 | Trevor Pryce | 13th year (33)
#93 | Dwan Edwards | 6th year (28)


[u][b]Nose Tackle / Defensive Tackle:
[/b][/u]
#97 | Kelly Gregg | 10th year (32)
#91 | Brandon McKinney | 4th year (25)
#96 | Lamar Divens | 2nd year (23)
_______________________________

[i]#98 | Kelly Talavou | 2nd year (24)[/i]


[u][b]Right Defensive End:[/b][/u]
#92 | Haloti Ngata | 4th year (25)
#94 | Justin Bannan | 8th year (30)

_______________________________

[i]#67 | Will Johnson | Rookie (23)
#72 | Bryan Mattison | 2nd year (25)[/i]

[u][b]Left Outside Linebacker:
[/b][/u]#95 | Jarret Johnson | 7th year (27)
#99 | Paul Kruger | Rookie (23)

[u][b]Strong Inside Linebacker:
[/b][/u] #52 | Ray Lewis | 14th year (34)
(PUP) #58 | Jason Phillips | Rookie (23)
Prescott Burgess
_______________________________

[i]#45 | Tony Fein | Rookie (26)[/i]

[u][b]Weak Inside Linebacker:
[/b][/u]#56 | Tavares Gooden | 2nd year (24)
#53 | Jameel McClain | 2nd year (23)
_______________________________

[i]#54 | Prescott Burgess | 3rd year (25)[/i]
[i]#48 | Dannell Ellerbe | Rookie (23)[/i]


[u][b]Right Outside Linebacker:
[/b][/u]#55 | Terrell Suggs | 7th year (26)
#50 | Antwan Barnes | 3rd year (24)

_______________________________

[i]#68 | William VanDeSteeg | Rookie (23)[/i]

[u][b]Cornerback:
[/b][/u]#31 | Fabian Washington | 5th year (26)
#24 | Domonique Foxworth | 5th year (26)
#22 | Samari Rolle | 12th year (32)
#41 | Frank Walker | 7th year (27) Frank looked real good.
#30 | Chris Carr | 5th year (26)
#21 | Lardarius Webb | Rookie (23)
#29 | Derrick Martin | 4th year (24)
_______________________________

[i]
#25 | Evan Oglesby | 4th year (27)[/i]

[u][b]Free Safety:
[/b][/u]#20 | Ed Reed | 8th year (30)
#43 | Haruki Nakamura | 2nd year (23)
_______________________________

[i]#40 | K.J. Gerard | Rookie (23)[/i]

[u][b]Strong Safety:
[/b][/u]#26 | Dawan Landry | 4th year (26)
#28 | Tom Zbikowski | 2nd year (24)




[center][b][size="3"]Special Teams[/size][/b] (3 | 4 Total)

[left][u][b]Kicker:
[/b][/u]#7 | Graham Gano | Rookie (22)
_______________________________
[i]#6 | Steve Hauschka | 2nd year (24)[/i]


[u][b]Punter:
[/b][/u]#4 | Sam Koch | 4th year (26)

[u][b]Long Snapper:
[/b][/u]#70 | Matt Katula | 5th year (26)






[/center][/left][/center][/left][/center][/left] [/center]


dont think Brendan will make the team, he does little on the field as a LB and we already got some stand out ST. Also not sure where Kruger goes on depth chart because he was playing both OLB and DE.

Also the DL is hard to order too because everyone was moving around on different plays.
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Figurs might make it over Harper b/c of his draft status and the fact that we can stash Harper on our practice squad. If we cut Figurs he's gone.

Harper might not make it anyway now that Mason is back.
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[quote name='52Kia Kaha92' date='11 July 2009 - 06:17 AM' timestamp='1247307454' post='205955']
No its not a joke. Yes i have 4 UDFA's making the roster. It was a shock Ellerbe didnt get drafted aswell as Gano. Jameel McClain, Bart Scott where udfa's so whats the big deal. Whats UDFA's got to do with "making an AFCCG roster"?? :huh:

Well the way i see it Webb is the better returner and Carr is overpaid to be a backup returner and dime cornerback. Washington just depth for the minimum. And for your information we have 80 guys signed and lots of which where signed this year that wont make the cut. ;)

Yes Gibson isnt on our team but this time last year neither was Willie Anderson or Lamar Divens who ended up there on opening day. :P

You appreciate my try?? since when are you top dog around here. :huh: Thats my opinion and i took a few wild cards but last year who expected Anwar phillips to make the opening day roster??

There are always surprises.
[/quote]
Agreed, signings and releases aren't uncommon in the NFL. It would happen to players like Drew Bennett not McGahee because of penalty risk. McGahee will start opening day, as he is off PUP. I'm certain McClain will get majority snaps at FB with a healthy McGahee and Rice. Last year McClain was to only Back to remain healthy the whole season.
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