My Biggest Concerns This Season

[Mahatma_Sloth]

[quote name='slugz1' post='199853' date='Jun 15 2009, 10:17 AM']i hope cousins can take chester spot. let chester play some Fb in different packages[/quote]
or what he did in college..... play some TE

........................................................................MY BIGGs...........................................................................
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.......................................Chester-Gaither-Grubbs-Birk-Yanda-Oher...........................................................T.Smith

.........................................................................Flacco

..........................................................Ngata________Sypnewski

.........................................................................McClain



weak side is just as good an option

[rastaman831226]

[quote name='lowrider' post='199819' date='Jun 15 2009, 10:14 AM']How about Marshall Yanda getting healthy. He isnt supposed to be back until September. Which means he is going to be ready for the season and ACL and knee injuries take a long time to recover from because you lose time to get in shape and it takes awhile to get back where they used to be.. Chris Chester is good but Yanda was a big piece to our offense last year.[/quote]


Having Yanda back would be a big plus, but let's not forget Chester started 11 of the 16 games next to Jason Brown last year and played a huge part in the sucess of the running game and keeping the pressure off Joe Flacco in the pocket. Until Yanda is fully recovered, I wouldn't worry about the RG position for a while.

[#1 D]

[quote name='Mahatma_Sloth' post='199863' date='Jun 15 2009, 01:22 PM']or what he did in college..... play some TE

........................................................................MY BIGGs...........................................................................
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.......................................Chester-Gaither-Grubbs-Birk-Yanda-Oher...........................................................T.Smith

.........................................................................Flacco

..........................................................Ngata________Sypnewski

.........................................................................McClain



weak side is just as good an option[/quote]
That would be good for goal line, but just goal line b/c it would be too obvious that we would run and there would be only 1-2 passing options (mcclain and smith) who could easily be covered...but a running game in this set would be alright.

[Ed_Reed_Pick_Six]

[quote name='lowrider' post='199822' date='Jun 16 2009, 02:20 AM']I'm hoping he will be ready to go by some point in the season let alone season opener.[/quote]
True that... I was being a bit unrealistically optimistic.

[52Kia Kaha92]

the things is he (yanda) is as tough as nails and he had such a massive surgery but the guy is a warrior
I actaully expect him to be ready for Kansas City

[McBurks]

[quote name='Ed_Reed_Pick_Six' post='199709' date='Jun 15 2009, 12:09 AM']I know he was second string, but he was a good ball hawk. I just like having depth at all positions. I obviously hope we're better than ever![/quote]

We have beast safties in Reed,Landry,Nakamaru and Zibby.

[Ed_Reed_Pick_Six]

[quote name='Simba' post='200117' date='Jun 16 2009, 07:26 PM']We have beast safties in Reed,Landry,Nakamaru and Zibby.[/quote]
Without doubt! Reed is the best player in the NFL

[ravens world]

The problem vs the steelers last year wasn't our protection the protection was really good last year vs the steelers i remember us with flacco having time with no one open more than the steelers getting sacks on flacco. I dont know the stats but i know the steelers didn't have more than 6 sacks on flacco in all 3 games combined but i do know about 15 times flacco had more than enough time to throw the ball and had no one to throw to cause mason was doubled. So i look at it as we didn't have enough at the wr position vs the steelers last year. Cause from what i remembered flacco didn't get sacked that much vs the steelers , but he did have enough time at times but couldn't find anyone open.

[berad]

[quote name='ravens world' post='200563' date='Jun 16 2009, 09:55 PM']The problem vs the steelers last year wasn't our protection the protection was really good last year vs the steelers i remember us with flacco having time with no one open more than the steelers getting sacks on flacco. I dont know the stats but i know the steelers didn't have more than 6 sacks on flacco in all 3 games combined but i do know about 15 times flacco had more than enough time to throw the ball and had no one to throw to cause mason was doubled. So i look at it as we didn't have enough at the wr position vs the steelers last year. Cause from what i remembered flacco didn't get sacked that much vs the steelers , but he did have enough time at times but couldn't find anyone open.[/quote]

Joe Flacco was sacked [b]10 times[/b] in the 3 games! 5 times in the first matchup which is why you saw the Offense hold more people in to block for the next two meetings. Even so, James Harrison, Lamar Woodley, and even Lawrence Timmons on some delay blitzes got to be well-aquainted with the Ravens' backfield. The problem [i]was[/i] protection. I suggest you go back and look at those games.

[shaikh015]

[quote name='nextgen_RavensFan' post='199644' date='Jun 14 2009, 07:50 PM']I hate and i mean HATE when we lose to the steelers. How did we improve our offense or defense to beable to atleast split with them this season ? The deep ball was the enemy last season and i know suggs was not suggs in the end with the hurt arm but i for one am glad we let CMac go and hope rolle can stay healthy.[/quote]
willie parker is taken care off...Our secondary needs to cover and tackle that is the only way Ward and Holmes is going to have prblems....

[ravens world]

[quote name='berad' post='200569' date='Jun 16 2009, 10:11 PM']Joe Flacco was sacked [b]10 times[/b] in the 3 games! 5 times in the first matchup which is why you saw the Offense hold more people in to block for the next two meetings. Even so, James Harrison, Lamar Woodley, and even Lawrence Timmons on some delay blitzes got to be well-aquainted with the Ravens' backfield. The problem [i]was[/i] protection. I suggest you go back and look at those games.[/quote]

no way ill have to see about that cause i dont remember that many sacks but i will look it up when i feel like it.

[smashmouth]

[quote name='ravens world' post='200656' date='Jun 17 2009, 01:11 AM']no way ill have to see about that cause i dont remember that many sacks but i will look it up when i feel like it.[/quote]
He was sacked 10 times vs the Steelers. 5 times in the first game, twice in the 2nd, and three times in the AFCC game. 2 and 3 sacks in the last 2 games was accually a very good game from the line considering how young they was and the fact that Yanda was injured. The Steelers averaged over 3 sacks a game in the regular season.

[Fred Sanford]

Michael Oher alone should be a major help in helping us to defeat the Steelers in coming years. I think some people's enthusiasm would be higher if he was 6'9", 360 or something, but make no mistake from his measurements, Oher is BIG. He has a great football body, the right attitude, and the potential to be a monstah RT. Joe Thomas isn't big at all, and he absolutely dominates.

Why do the Steelers beat us? Primarily Big Ben's elusiveness and playmaking ability, and Lamarr Woodley and James Harrison pressuring on passing plays and slapping the ball out of Flacco's hands. Oher should help a lot against the latter, though he'll struggle this year like all rookies at times. Kruger should provide some help against that greased up ape-man Roethlisberger, but you still wish we could add a guy like Peppers or whoever to get that pass rush to a level like the Giants or Steelers.

[smashmouth]

[quote name='Fred Sanford' post='200677' date='Jun 17 2009, 02:52 AM']Michael Oher alone should be a major help in helping us to defeat the Steelers in coming years. I think some people's enthusiasm would be higher if he was 6'9", 360 or something, but make no mistake from his measurements, Oher is BIG. He has a great football body, the right attitude, and the potential to be a monstah RT. Joe Thomas isn't big at all, and he absolutely dominates.

Why do the Steelers beat us? Primarily Big Ben's elusiveness and playmaking ability, and Lamarr Woodley and James Harrison pressuring on passing plays and slapping the ball out of Flacco's hands. Oher should help a lot against the latter, though he'll struggle this year like all rookies at times. Kruger should provide some help against that greased up ape-man Roethlisberger, but you still wish we could add a guy like Peppers or whoever to get that pass rush to a level like the Giants or Steelers.[/quote]

I loved the Oher pick in the 1st round, Adam Terry losing his spot to a rookie - priceless. Im so tired of watching him get beat. Anderson was better but he played injured and past his prime. Flacco will mature twice as fast with Heap running accross the middle more. I have a feeling that we will beat the Steelers twice this year, and Oher will be a big reason, a healthy Gregg and Laundry is just icing on the cake.

[Ed_Reed_Pick_Six]

Yeah Oher should solidify that line further. Keep those damn Steelers linebackers off Flacco's back.

[OnOurWaytoSIX]

[quote]The only thing they have on us are stand-out WR's.[/quote]

Only??

Please do not fall into the trap of thinking that Flacco is all of a sudden where Ben is. WR [b]and[/b] QB is where our advantage is. Each defense gives the opposing O problems so that is a push. Both teams have good backs so I will call that a push as well. Heap and Miller are both very good TEs. I give the nod to Heap but Miller does a great job in our offense and with the way we spread the ball around a "better" TE might not see more touches anyways.

Your oline is better than ours. Advantage you..

How do you think Flacco would fair behind our oline? Take is a step further, put Manning or Brady behind our line and how would they look? Our line is flat out bad.. If not for Ben we would not have sniffed that SB. Now put Ben behind your line.. Your line is better in pass pro and getting push in the run game.

While Flacco had a VERY good rookie season, he does not have the experience nor the resume just yet to say he and Ben are a push. Quite a ways to go. Especially because Cameron did a very good job of making things easy for the rookie last year. He will be asked to do more and with that will come some growing pains.

With that said, I much preferred when you guys had the Kyle Bollers of the world behind center.......

[darklight1216]

[quote name='OnOurWaytoSIX' post='200891' date='Jun 17 2009, 02:11 PM']...
How do you think Flacco would fair behind our oline? Take is a step further, put Manning or Brady behind our line and how would they look? [b]Our line is flat out bad..[/b] If not for Ben we would not have sniffed that SB. [b]Now put Ben behind your line..[/b] Your line is better in pass pro and getting push in the run game.
...[/quote]
1. Let's not put Ben on the Ravens roster. If we're getting a new quarterback, let it be Drew Brees.

2.Since when does Ben stay behind his O-line? I'm not generally in the business of defending Steelers players, but how exactly are the linemen supposed to block for a guy that is never behind them?

[slugz1]

[quote name='OnOurWaytoSIX' post='200891' date='Jun 17 2009, 02:11 PM']Only??

Please do not fall into the trap of thinking that Flacco is all of a sudden where Ben is. WR [b]and[/b] QB is where our advantage is. Each defense gives the opposing O problems so that is a push. [b]Both teams have good backs so I will call that a push as well. [/b] Heap and Miller are both very good TEs. I give the nod to Heap but Miller does a great job in our offense and with the way we spread the ball around a "better" TE might not see more touches anyways.

Your oline is better than ours. Advantage you..

How do you think Flacco would fair behind our oline? Take is a step further, put Manning or Brady behind our line and how would they look? Our line is flat out bad.. If not for Ben we would not have sniffed that SB. Now put Ben behind your line.. Your line is better in pass pro and getting push in the run game.

While Flacco had a VERY good rookie season, he does not have the experience nor the resume just yet to say he and Ben are a push. Quite a ways to go. Especially because Cameron did a very good job of making things easy for the rookie last year. He will be asked to do more and with that will come some growing pains.

With that said, I much preferred when you guys had the Kyle Bollers of the world behind center....... [/quote]
Willie parker cant run on the ravens so we have a better run game when we play yall

[smashmouth]

[quote name='OnOurWaytoSIX' post='200891' date='Jun 17 2009, 02:11 PM']Only??

Please do not fall into the trap of thinking that Flacco is all of a sudden where Ben is. WR [b]and[/b] QB is where our advantage is. Each defense gives the opposing O problems so that is a push. Both teams have good backs so I will call that a push as well. Heap and Miller are both very good TEs. I give the nod to Heap but Miller does a great job in our offense and with the way we spread the ball around a "better" TE might not see more touches anyways.

Your oline is better than ours. Advantage you..

How do you think Flacco would fair behind our oline? Take is a step further, put Manning or Brady behind our line and how would they look? Our line is flat out bad.. If not for Ben we would not have sniffed that SB. Now put Ben behind your line.. Your line is better in pass pro and getting push in the run game.

While Flacco had a VERY good rookie season, he does not have the experience nor the resume just yet to say he and Ben are a push. Quite a ways to go. Especially because Cameron did a very good job of making things easy for the rookie last year. He will be asked to do more and with that will come some growing pains.

With that said, I much preferred when you guys had the Kyle Bollers of the world behind center....... [/quote]

I do agree, your spot on in your assement, although Miller played better then Heap last year, and your run game wasnt up to par. Heap should play like Heap this year, and Parker will be back to doing his old thing. Ben has the experience so he gets the nod, but dont rule Flacco out as just as good as Big Ben.

[ravens world]

[quote name='slugz1' post='200904' date='Jun 17 2009, 02:33 PM']Willie parker cant run on the ravens so we have a better run game when we play yall[/quote]

since when ?

[TheRavenouseD2008]

[quote name='52Kia Kaha92' post='199769' date='Jun 15 2009, 05:35 AM']i think he is. If we let him carry about 10 a game. Rice abou 10 a game and McClain about 5 well ahve a great running game

McCgahee looked better in the playoffs so he is getting better IMO[/quote]
seen too much of this gotta put my foot down , I am a firm believer why john and cam set mcclain to the hb position last year then let neil go this year, the who thing was to show mcclian that he was a FB and how a FB should work , in some interviews over the offseason he said he learned alot running behind niel but I have a feeling that was enough to fire him up to get him where he needed to be as a FB if I am right , watch out other teams cause we will have a great blocker for our other 3 running backs remember we picked up the guy from VT this year.

[darklight1216]

[quote name='TheRavenouseD2008' post='200916' date='Jun 17 2009, 02:58 PM']seen too much of this gotta put my foot down , I am a firm believer why john and cam set mcclain to the hb position last year then let neil go this year, the who thing was to show mcclian that he was a FB and how a FB should work , in some interviews over the offseason he said he learned alot running behind niel but I have a feeling that was enough to fire him up to get him where he needed to be as a FB if I am right , watch out other teams cause we will have a great blocker for our other 3 running backs remember we picked up the guy from VT this year.[/quote]
Or maybe they let Lo.Neal go because they had bigger fish to fry, ie. Ray Lewis and Terrell Suggs.

I do think that it's about time for Le'Ron to do the dirty work and block for other runners.

[smashmouth]

[quote name='ravens world' post='200913' date='Jun 17 2009, 02:50 PM']since when ?[/quote]
What do you mean, Willie Parker has had his worst days against us. He's never had a 100 yard rushing game, and off the top of my head, I believe his best day against us was 57 yards.

[OnOurWaytoSIX]

[quote]2.Since when does Ben stay behind his O-line? I'm not generally in the business of defending Steelers players, but how exactly are the linemen supposed to block for a guy that is never behind them?[/quote]

Ummm, you just made my point for me. Ben is not running by design. Ben must run because our oline lets guys into the backfield all the time. RBs get hit as they are taking the exchange. Ben is under pressure before he even finishes his drop sometimes. Our line is bad.

In one of the Ravens games I recall the ball being snapped, Suggs rushes from the outside and was halfway to Ben before Max Starks even got out of his set... Almost like he did not even know the ball was snapped.

Had to rewind this on the DVR several times. Each time just shaking my head in disbelief.

[darklight1216]

[quote name='OnOurWaytoSIX' post='200926' date='Jun 17 2009, 03:12 PM'][b]Ummm, you just made my point for me.[/b] Ben is not running by design. Ben must run because our oline lets guys into the backfield all the time. RBs get hit as they are taking the exchange. Ben is under pressure before he even finishes his drop sometimes. Our line is bad.

In one of the Ravens games I recall the ball being snapped, Suggs rushes from the outside and was halfway to Ben before Max Starks even got out of his set... Almost like he did not even know the ball was snapped.

Had to rewind this on the DVR several times. Each time just shaking my head in disbelief.[/quote]
Actually we have opposite views. Mine was that the line can't block because Ben is always scampering out of the pocket. Yours was that Ben is always scampering because the line doesn't block.

So which came first the chicken or the egg lol j/k.

[BmoreRav]

[quote name='darklight1216' post='200900' date='Jun 17 2009, 07:28 PM']1. Let's not put Ben on the Ravens roster. If we're getting a new quarterback, let it be Drew Brees.

2.Since when does Ben stay behind his O-line? I'm not generally in the business of defending Steelers players, but how exactly are the linemen supposed to block for a guy that is never behind them?[/quote]

The times Ben was sacked last season he was either in the pocket or was flushed out by the rush and trying to keep the play alive!!

Either way it's the O-Line.

Watch the Eagles game from last season for a good example of how stellar the O-Line was.

[theFRANCHISE]

[quote name='OnOurWaytoSIX' post='200926' date='Jun 17 2009, 03:12 PM']Ben is under pressure before he even finishes his drop sometimes. Our line is bad.[/quote]That's pretty much the only reason why the Steelers haven't won more Super Bowls in the past few years. Inconsistent offensive line play. The line was phenomenal during Big Ben's rookie season, and then shaky the following year (but good enough to win a Super Bowl), and so on and so forth.

You'd think that, with as good as the Steelers have been in evaluating talent and stocking the roster, they'd actually make offensive line more of a priority. The Ravens themselves are proof-positive that you can only ignore a problem so long before it actually cripples the team...

[darklight1216]

[quote name='BmoreRav' post='200931' date='Jun 17 2009, 03:18 PM']The times Ben was sacked last season he was either in the pocket or was flushed out by the rush and trying to keep the play alive!!

Either way it's the O-Line.

[b]Watch the Eagles game from last season for a good example of how stellar the O-Line was. [/b][/quote]
And see the Steelers lose? Sounds like fun.

[quote name='theFRANCHISE' post='200932' date='Jun 17 2009, 03:20 PM']That's pretty much the only reason why the Steelers haven't won more Super Bowls in the past few years. Inconsistent offensive line play. The line was phenomenal during Big Ben's rookie season, and then shaky the following year (but good enough to win a Super Bowl), and so on and so forth.

[b]You'd think that, with as good as the Steelers have been in evaluating talent and stocking the roster, they'd actually make offensive line more of a priority.[/b] The Ravens themselves are proof-positive that you can only ignore a problem so long before it actually cripples the team...[/quote]
If the O-line is really their only weakness then I say they should keep doing what they are doing.

[lowrider]

[quote name='darklight1216' post='200935' date='Jun 17 2009, 03:23 PM']If the O-line is really their only weakness then I say they should keep doing what they are doing. [/quote]
Especially considering that Ziggy Hood is getting a lot of attention and Timmons who replaced Foote is apparently better than Foote. Their defense might have gotten better. That sucks. This year is going to be real fun to watch and maybe even better than last year. Both the Steelers and the Ravens got better.

[slugz1]

[quote name='ravens world' post='200913' date='Jun 17 2009, 02:50 PM']since when ?[/quote]
this year the never beat us in rushing yards