Who Will Make The 2009 Playoffs?

[Wacko4Zacko]

Predict which teams will make the 2009 playoffs? Theres a total of 12 all together, 6 from NFC and 6 from AFC.

[color="#FF0000"]AFC Teams[/color]
Chargers
Ravens
Dolphins
Bengals (Yeah, thier team is improved compared to last season.)
Patriots
Texans (it's going to be thier first one)

[color="#0000FF"]NFC Teams[/color]
Saints
Packers
Cardinals (Who says they can't pull off another 2008 season?)
Vikings
Redskins
Eagles (McNabb has his weapons now... )

[pick-ups]

AFC(in no particular order)
SD
NE
IND
TEX
KC
Balt

NFC
Giants
Packers
SF
Eagles
ATL
NO

[darklight1216]

[quote name='Wacko4Zacko' post='197966' date='Jun 6 2009, 11:21 PM']Bengals (Yeah, thier team is improved compared to last season.)[/quote]
The Bengals get to playoffs over the Steelers... is that a joke?


AFC
Patriots
Colts
Steelers
Chargers
wildcards: Jags, Ravens

NFC
Eagles
Bears
Niners
Saints
wildcards: Giants, Redskins

[#1 D]

[quote name='Wacko4Zacko' post='197966' date='Jun 6 2009, 11:21 PM']Predict which teams will make the 2009 playoffs? Theres a total of 12 all together, 6 from NFC and 6 from AFC.

[color="#ff0000"]AFC Teams[/color]
Chargers
Ravens
Dolphins
Bengals (Yeah, thier team is improved compared to last season.)
Patriots
Texans (it's going to be thier first one)

[color="#0000ff"]NFC Teams[/color]
Saints
Packers
Cardinals (Who says they can't pull off another 2008 season?)
Vikings
Redskins
Eagles (McNabb has his weapons now... )[/quote]
replace the texans with the steelers for AFC, and it looks good to me.

[McBurks]

[quote name='Wacko4Zacko' post='197966' date='Jun 6 2009, 11:21 PM']Predict which teams will make the 2009 playoffs? Theres a total of 12 all together, 6 from NFC and 6 from AFC.

[color="#FF0000"]AFC Teams[/color]
Chargers
Ravens
Dolphins
[b]Bengals (Yeah, thier team is improved compared to last season.)[/b]
Patriots
Texans (it's going to be thier first one)

[color="#0000FF"]NFC Teams[/color]
Saints
Packers
Cardinals (Who says they can't pull off another 2008 season?)
Vikings
Redskins
Eagles (McNabb has his weapons now... )[/quote]
No way.

AFC Teams:

1.Patriots - Everyone is coming back healthy and they have proven veterans that they can use every so often.
2.Steelers - Reigning Superbowl champs,they just need to stay healthy and protect Roethlisberger.
3.Texans - Make it or break it for Matt Shuab,he needs to stay healthy so they can finally make the playoffs.
4.Chargers - Teams need to stay healthy,and with Merriman and L.T coming back fine they should be a force in that division called the AFC West.

NFC Teams:

1.Eagles - McDonovan has weapons and his defense has gotten better with Hobbs added as a CB.The DL needs to get more sacks and pressure QB's though.
2.Packers - Now that Aaron Rodgers has some dirt in his eye he can show us what he's made of.The defense switching to the 3-4 scheme should be interesting.
3.Falcons - Besides the rebuilding Buccaneers,this division could possibly be a struggle to win.With Matt Ryan leading his team to 11-5 and with added TE Tony Gonzalez and reshaping the d-line with Peria Jerry in the draft,the Falcons secondary should have no problem with sticking with WR's long enough so the pass rush can get to the QB.
4.49er's - Wild pick?Not at all.The defense is fine and all the offense needs to do is keep Frank Gore healthy and be conservative with turnovers.

Wild Cards:

Ravens - We did it last year with half our roster on IR so I'm pretty sure we can do a lot better with adding Oher so Heap can recieve some more.

Colts/Bills - Peyton needs to get help from his running game now that Harrison is gone and can't carry this team like he did last year.
The Bills have a fine defense but if things start going bad early T.O could rip apart that lockeroom.

Panthers - With that horrible game in the playoofs,Jake Delhomme needs to have a great year to compliment his great running game.Remember Jake,be conservative.

Giants/Vikings - Eli needs to be the man and start developing more with his recivers now that his saftey blanket is gone.
I don't know if Favre will come back in the summer again but if he does they could easily make the playoffs as a wildcard team.

[#1 D]

[quote name='Simba' post='198058' date='Jun 7 2009, 06:38 PM']No way.

AFC Teams:

1.Patriots - Everyone is coming back healthy and they have proven veterans that they can use every so often.
2.Steelers - Reigning Superbowl champs,they just need to stay healthy and protect Roethlisberger.
3.Texans - Make it or break it for Matt Shuab,he needs to stay healthy so they can finally make the playoffs.
4.Chargers - Teams need to stay healthy,and with Merriman and L.T coming back fine they should be a force in that division called the AFC West.

NFC Teams:

1.Eagles - McDonovan has weapons and his defense has gotten better with Hobbs added as a CB.The DL needs to get more sacks and pressure QB's though.
2.Packers - Now that Aaron Rodgers has some dirt in his eye he can show us what he's made of.The defense switching to the 3-4 scheme should be interesting.
3.Falcons - Besides the rebuilding Buccaneers,this division could possibly be a struggle to win.With Matt Ryan leading his team to 11-5 and with added TE Tony Gonzalez and reshaping the d-line with Peria Jerry in the draft,the Falcons secondary should have no problem with sticking with WR's long enough so the pass rush can get to the QB.
4.49er's - Wild pick?Not at all.The defense is fine and all the offense needs to do is keep Frank Gore healthy and be conservative with turnovers.

Wild Cards:

Ravens - We did it last year with half our roster on IR so I'm pretty sure we can do a lot better with adding Oher so Heap can recieve some more.

Colts/Bills - Peyton needs to get help from his running game now that [b]Harrison is gone and can't carry this team like he did last year.[/b]
The Bills have a fine defense but if things start going bad early T.O could rip apart that lockeroom.

Panthers - With that horrible game in the playoofs,Jake Delhomme needs to have a great year to compliment his great running game.Remember Jake,be conservative.

Giants/Vikings - Eli needs to be the man and start developing more with his recivers now that his saftey blanket is gone.
I don't know if Favre will come back in the summer again but if he does they could easily make the playoffs as a wildcard team.[/quote]
Im not sure harrison did that, he only caught for 600 yards last season and showed signs of slowing down...Peyton still has wayne and Anthony Gonzalez, a very capable #2. The colts might not dominate like their used to doing offensively, but they still will be a very good football team.

[Devastat1on]

AFC
East: Patriots
South: Colts
North: Steelers
West: Chargers
Wildcards: Ravens, Titans

NFC
East: Giants
North: Bears
West: Cardinals
South: Saints
Wildcards: Eagles, Falcons

I dont see much of a change from this year.. Maybe the Titans or Packers sneak in, but i dont think so..

[RavenRage92]

AFC:
Ravens
Steelers
Titans
Chargers
Colts
Patriots

NFC:
Bears
Giants
Cards
Panthers
Eagles
Vikings

[EdReedFTW]

[quote name='Simba' post='198058' date='Jun 7 2009, 06:38 PM']Panthers - With that horrible game in the [b]playoofs[/b],Jake Delhomme needs to have a great year to compliment his great running game.Remember Jake,be conservative.[/quote]

lol, I know that was a typo but that's still hilariously accurate.

[JO_75]

The AFC is going to be tough considering the Patriots will have Brady back. The Colts will struggle I believe which opens the door for the Texans.
The NFC, is also going to be tough with what the Eagles did, the Giants did, Saints improving the defense. But these are the 12 teams I believe will make the 2009 playoffs.

AFC:

North: Ravens (# 2 Seed)

South: Titans (# 3 Seed)

East: Patriots (# 1 Seed)

West: Chargers (# 4 Seed)

Wildcard: Steelers (# 5 Seed) Texans (# 6 Seed)

NFC:

North: Bears (# 2 Seed)

South: Falcons (# 4 Seed)

East: Eagles (# 1 Seed)

West: Cardinals (#3 Seed)

Wildcard: Giants (# 5 Seed) Vikings/Saints. (# 6 Seed)

[neepo13]

AFC
Ravens
Titans
Chargers
Patriots
Dolphins
Texans

NFL
Panthers
Bears
Giants
Seahawks
Eagles
49ers

Seeded in the order that they are listed.

[darklight1216]

^ Why is everyone putting the Texans intead of the Steelers?

[Wacko4Zacko]

[quote name='darklight1216' post='199687' date='Jun 14 2009, 10:56 PM']^ Why is everyone putting the Texans intead of the Steelers?[/quote]
Well Its thier time....Their team seems to be complete right now. They have a good looking defense and have a franchise QB and maybe a top 10 WR.

[SteelersProphet]

[quote name='Wacko4Zacko' post='199871' date='Jun 15 2009, 02:05 PM']Well Its thier time....Their team seems to be complete right now. They have a good looking defense and have a franchise QB and maybe a top 10 WR.[/quote]

but you honestly see them doing better than the defending superbowl champions with an easy schedule

im not sure but i think the steelers have a better defense.....a better franchise QB.....and two superbowl MVP WR's

[neepo13]

[quote name='STEELERS PROPHET268' post='199906' date='Jun 15 2009, 04:35 PM']but you honestly see them doing better than the defending superbowl champions with an easy schedule

im not sure but i think the steelers have a better defense.....a better franchise QB.....and two superbowl MVP WR's[/quote]

Dont act like its so out of the question that the Steelers could have a Superbowl hangover. I seem to remember them finishing behind the Bengals in this division last time they went all the way.

[SteelersProphet]

[quote name='neepo13' post='199917' date='Jun 15 2009, 05:15 PM']Dont act like its so out of the question that the Steelers could have a Superbowl hangover. I seem to remember them finishing behind the Bengals in this division last time they went all the way.[/quote]

im not saying its out of the question....nothing is in sports.....

all im saying is that the reasoning given seems flawed to me.....if those things equal a playoff berth than we have to be higher on the list then the texans

why do some people think because they might not suck next year.....they will be better than a team who doesnt suck now

doesnt make sense is all

[MKdave]

AFC
#1: Pats
#2: Steelers
#3: Titans
#4: Raiders (SOMEBODY'S gotta come out of that division, and the Chargers -the old LT aren't a great team)
#5: Ravens
#6: Jets

NFC
#1: Giants
#2: Saints
#3: GB
#4: Seahawks (again, somebody's gotta come out of that division and I'm a firm believer in the curse of the superbowl loser)
#5: Eagles
#6: Vikings

[neepo13]

[quote name='STEELERS PROPHET268' post='199920' date='Jun 15 2009, 05:24 PM']im not saying its out of the question....nothing is in sports.....

all im saying is that the reasoning given seems flawed to me.....if those things equal a playoff berth than we have to be higher on the list then the texans

everybody thinks because they might not suck next year.....they will be better than a team who doesnt suck now

doesnt make sense is all[/quote]

So, in other words we should be like ESPN and all the other talking heads, who never go out on a limb and just predict the exact same thing that happened last year to happen again this year, although statistics show that there is still more then a 50% chance that it wont turn out like that.

IMO, thats no fun.

[SteelersProphet]

[quote name='neepo13' post='199932' date='Jun 15 2009, 05:40 PM']So, in other words we should be like ESPN and all the other talking heads, who never go out on a limb and just predict the exact same thing that happened last year to happen again this year, although statistics show that there is still more then a 50% chance that it wont turn out like that.

IMO, thats no fun.[/quote]

i see what your saying and i think that predicting a long shot is fine

but what i was mainly commenting on were the reasons

because say last year never happened, and we were looking at the teams just based on who is on them and style of play and so on and so on

the steelers still have to look like the better team.....yes the texans defense has improved.....but to what level....steelers/ravens level? no way

yes the texans found a possible steady Qb......but did they find one that has two superbowl rings and extensive postseason experience? no they didnt

and yes they have a great WR......but the steelers have two superbowl MVP's

so how do those things equal the texans coming out on top just because they have improved from being terrible

but if its just a feeling thats cool......i just didnt get the reasoning

[darklight1216]

If it's any consolation Prophet, I still don't get it either.

[SteelersProphet]

It is thank you

[Wacko4Zacko]

Okay well Texans could still make the playoffs and steelers could as well. Im not syaing the Steelers couldn't, but I def. see the Texans going to the playoffs this time. I mean c'mon the franchise has NEVER made the playoffs, they have to be hungry and desperate.

[neepo13]

[quote name='STEELERS PROPHET268' post='199942' date='Jun 15 2009, 05:52 PM']i see what your saying and i think that predicting a long shot is fine

but what i was mainly commenting on were the reasons

because say last year never happened, and we were looking at the teams just based on who is on them and style of play and so on and so on

the steelers still have to look like the better team.....yes the texans defense has improved.....but to what level....steelers/ravens level? no way

yes the texans found a possible steady Qb......but did they find one that has two superbowl rings and extensive postseason experience? no they didnt

and yes they have a great WR......but the steelers have two superbowl MVP's

so how do those things equal the texans coming out on top just because they have improved from being terrible

but if its just a feeling thats cool......i just didnt get the reasoning[/quote]

I guess the point, I am trying to make is why people believe the Texans can make the playoffs, stands on its own merit. It doesnt have to be compared to the likes of another team. Going into last season, if someone had said that the Ravens and Dolphins would make the playoffs over the Jaguars and Patriots, they would have been ridiculed to no end because on paper they didnt even look like they came close to matching up with either of those two teams. On paper, the Jaguars and Patriots looked overwhelmingly better at EVERY position, just about.

More importantly, 6 teams from the AFC make the playoffs. Would you have any less of a problem with some people leaving the Steelers out if the person pointed out that they left them out in favor of the Ravens, Titans, or Patriots? I would think not. So, again how they match up on paper shouldnt really matter but just for the fun of it, here is how I see it:

I am not going to try to diss any Steelers players but lets be objective for a second. Your whole arguement for Ben over Schuab is that Ben has two rings. Being on a Superbowl winning team doesnt make you the automatic favorite over whatever other player. Trent Dilfer and Brad Johnson have won the superbowl to but that doesnt make them better QB's then say Dan Marino or Steve McNair. Thats not to say that Ben isnt better the Schuab, I just think that arguement on your part is flawed.

The same can be said for Hines Ward and Santanio Holmes. They were on the team that won the Superbowl but that doesnt make either of them better players then Andre Johnson.

Maybe they havent closed the gap defensively but they do have the Steelers beat in the running game department based on last years statistics.

[SteelersProphet]

[quote name='Wacko4Zacko' post='199979' date='Jun 15 2009, 07:57 PM']Okay well Texans could still make the playoffs and steelers could as well. Im not syaing the Steelers couldn't, but I def. see the Texans going to the playoffs this time. I mean c'mon the franchise has NEVER made the playoffs, they have to be hungry and desperate.[/quote]

oh i agree im interested in their team this year

but i think the titans and the colts both have better teams

so the texans would have to be an elite team even to have a shot IMO

and at this point i dont think they are elite

but if they start off strong......and one of those other teams hits a snag(for example peyton manning gets hurt)

then i would put them on my list

[pick-ups]

A lot of people are jumping on the Texans band wagon,including myself.

They have the talent(offensive line a little shaky),but other than that they have the pieces.

[SteelersProphet]

[quote name='pick-ups' post='199997' date='Jun 15 2009, 08:35 PM']A lot of people are jumping on the Texans band wagon,including myself.

They have the talent(offensive line a little shaky),but other than that they have the pieces.[/quote]

but would you say they were elite?

[pick-ups]

[quote name='STEELERS PROPHET268' post='200000' date='Jun 15 2009, 05:38 PM']but would you say they were elite?[/quote]
Not at all.
I really couldn't say any team is elite except for the Pats and that's if their offense takes off again,but their defense is getting a little old.

They did have a nice draft(addressing the replacement of their aging defense).

The Texans are in a tough division,but they're finally starting to close the gap I believe.

[SteelersProphet]

[quote name='pick-ups' post='200001' date='Jun 15 2009, 08:42 PM']Not at all.
I really couldn't say any team is elite except for the Pats and that's if their offense takes off again,but their defense is getting a little old.

They did have a nice draft(addressing the replacement of their aging defense).

The Texans are in a tough division,but they're finally starting to close the gap I believe.[/quote]

i think so too

but i dont see that division sending three teams to the playoffs.....and im not sure the texans will have the number two record in that division

but if they do its because the titans were a one hit wonder.....and thats possible

[Wacko4Zacko]

[quote name='STEELERS PROPHET268' post='199989' date='Jun 15 2009, 08:11 PM']oh i agree im interested in their team this year

but i think the titans and the colts both have better teams

so the texans would have to be an elite team even to have a shot IMO

and at this point i dont think they are elite

but if they start off strong......and one of those other teams hits a snag(for example peyton manning gets hurt)

then i would put them on my list[/quote]

Well first off the Colts O-Line needs to improve. New Coach, they loss two of their O Line coaches, new rookie RB and Peyton doesn't have his main WR Marvin Harrison. So I think it will be interesting to see how the team will do with a new HC, new O-Line coaches.

Titans, their Defense won't be the same without Haynesworth and with Collins at QB, he is prone to injury.

[SteelersProphet]

[quote name='Wacko4Zacko' post='200003' date='Jun 15 2009, 08:48 PM']Well first off the Colts O-Line needs to improve. New Coach, they loss two of their O Line coaches, new rookie RB and Peyton doesn't have his main WR Marvin Harrison. So I think it will be interesting to see how the team will do with a new HC, new O-Line coaches.

Titans, their Defense won't be the same without Haynesworth and with Collins at QB, he is prone to injury.[/quote]

true, but peyton is too good not to make the playoffs and then lose the first game

and i agree the titans are a bit of a question mark