Comment From Drew Rosenhaus On Ayanbadejo

[Mishel]

From - [url="http://twitter.com/RosenhausSports"]http://twitter.com/RosenhausSports[/url]

"Here's a suggestion for the Ravens: play LB Brendon Ayanbadejo on defense. To be that good on special teams he deserves a shot to play on D. 10:39 AM Jun 1st from web"


is Rosenhaus Brendon's agent? if so, I never knew that, was just curious.

[Ed_Reed20]

Ayenbadejo himself said he knew his role. He has played special teams for so long, he's comfortable doing it.

[EdReedFTW]

Not to mention Rex DID try him on defense and I guess he just didnt see him as that valuable.

[Strangebru]

[quote name='Mishel' post='197038' date='Jun 3 2009, 10:40 AM']From - [url="http://twitter.com/RosenhausSports"]http://twitter.com/RosenhausSports[/url]

"Here's a suggestion for the Ravens: play LB Brendon Ayanbadejo on defense. To be that good on special teams he deserves a shot to play on D. 10:39 AM Jun 1st from web"


Just curious...is Rosenhaus Brendon's agent? if so, I never knew that, was just curious.[/quote]
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I guess I won't be able to say what I really want to say about Drew Rosenhaus.

[markorad]

rosenhaus is a ****bag and needs to be put down like the animal he is
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[baltiMORE RAVENS]

I'm just curious on why everyone hates drew rosenhaus. Do you hate all sports agents or just rosenhaus?

[b-morebrotha]

I liked Brendon's play last yr when he got in. From what I saw he did well. Gooden may be the fav but Brendon ain't happy w/ just S.T. I can tell from the way he played late in the yr. I think we'll see some suprising things from him this camp.

[markorad]

just rosenhaus...just rosenhaus
...it seems as the majority of his players (chad ocho cinco, TO, boldin, winslow jr, plaxico, shockey, dockett, mcgahee etc etc) are the ones that cause discord in their team locker rooms just a year or two after signing a long term deal either wanting a $$$$ deal or appearing in camp out of shape (mentally and physically) or skipping out on it entirely(or until they start to get fined).
might seem like he is doing the best for his people but always seems to kill team chemistry

[Ed_Reed20]

[quote name='b-morebrotha' post='197052' date='Jun 3 2009, 11:13 AM']I liked Brendon's play last yr when he got in. From what I saw he did well. Gooden may be the fav but Brendon ain't happy w/ just S.T. I can tell from the way he played late in the yr. I think we'll see some suprising things from him this camp.[/quote]

But will the coaches give him an opportunity to start on defense?

[b-morebrotha]

[quote name='Ed_Reed20' post='197056' date='Jun 3 2009, 11:22 AM']But will the coaches give him an opportunity to start on defense?[/quote]

Million dollar question right there. I certainly hope so though he's my Dark Horse to win the job. I guess only T.C and P.S. will show. But bieng a S.T. pro bowler should translate to some player ability on D. I also believe that we should've tried harder to keep Stills ly too and had both hunting kick returners at the same time.

[Ed_Reed20]

[quote name='b-morebrotha' post='197058' date='Jun 3 2009, 11:31 AM']Million dollar question right there. I certainly hope so though he's my Dark Horse to win the job. I guess only T.C and P.S. will show. But bieng a S.T. pro bowler should translate to some player ability on D. I also believe that we should've tried harder to keep Stills ly too and had both hunting kick returners at the same time.[/quote]

Yeah. I was surprised they didn't keep Stills too. Regardless, Ayenbadejo definitely has the athleticism but does he have the skills? I would love to see him play some defense too but it's up to the coaches.

[bce086]

[quote name='baltiMORE RAVENS' post='197049' date='Jun 3 2009, 11:10 AM']I'm just curious on why everyone hates drew rosenhaus. Do you hate all sports agents or just rosenhaus?[/quote]


From a fans point of view, its bad news to hear Drew is one of your players agents, because HE ALMOST ALWAYS GETS what his players want.

From a players point of viwe -- He'd be my agent if I were a high caliber player in the NFL without a doubt.
He's got all the big name players, and they make top dollar in the NFL

You gotta have respect for this man, atleast for how well he is succeeding in his career. This man is LOADED

[Beninato]

[quote name='bce086' post='197068' date='Jun 3 2009, 12:08 PM']From a fans point of view, its bad news to hear Drew is one of your players agents, [b]because HE ALMOST ALWAYS GETS what his players want.[/b]

From a players point of viwe -- He'd be my agent if I were a high caliber player in the NFL without a doubt.
He's got all the big name players, and they make top dollar in the NFL

You gotta have respect for this man, atleast for how well he is succeeding in his career. This man is LOADED[/quote]

Isn't that was we as fans want? Our players to be happy with their current contract and be able to focus 100% on playing football?

[MKdave]

I don't think Brendan is really big enough to start in the 3-4. He's not even 230 pounds.
I think I'd actually prefer him in a safety role in dime formations. But we already have plenty of safeties...

[Beninato]

[quote name='MKdave' post='197071' date='Jun 3 2009, 12:14 PM']I don't think Brendan is really big enough to start in the 3-4. He's not even 230 pounds.
I think I'd actually prefer him in a safety role in dime formations. But we already have plenty of safeties...[/quote]

To be honest, we really only need one safety, he's that damn good.

[theFRANCHISE]

[quote name='baltiMORE RAVENS' post='197049' date='Jun 3 2009, 11:10 AM']I'm just curious on why everyone hates drew rosenhaus. Do you hate all sports agents or just rosenhaus?[/quote]I respect the man for how successful he's been at his job, but I hate the way he's handled his business and I hate how he's fed into players' egos and encouraged this sports culture of self-importance.

[baltiMORE RAVENS]

[quote name='bce086' post='197068' date='Jun 3 2009, 12:08 PM']From a fans point of view, its bad news to hear Drew is one of your players agents, because HE ALMOST ALWAYS GETS what his players want.

From a players point of viwe -- He'd be my agent if I were a high caliber player in the NFL without a doubt.
He's got all the big name players, and they make top dollar in the NFL

You gotta have respect for this man, atleast for how well he is succeeding in his career. This man is LOADED[/quote]

Thanks for making my point! People always hate on the guy for doing his JOB. How in the world does that make him a d-bag. One poster on here said, "he should be put down like the animal that he is". I wonder if that guy knows what an agent is supposed to do. The guy represents the people who HIRE him better than any other agent I have seen. He promotes his clients more than any other agent in the world and he does whatever he can to help them out. What more could you want from the guy?

[theFRANCHISE]

[quote name='Beninato' post='197070' date='Jun 3 2009, 12:13 PM']Isn't that was we as fans want? Our players to be happy with their current contract and be able to focus 100% on playing football?[/quote]But not if the demands of the players just aren't sensible. Sure, we as fans aren't the ones making their sacrifices, so we can't really say what's sensible and what isn't -- but there's certain demands that people would agree are unreasonable, especially if it puts the team in a tight spot. If a player getting his money means it comes at the expense of a teammate who is also valuable to the team, that doesn't sit well with the rest of the locker room.

[slugz1]

[quote name='baltiMORE RAVENS' post='197049' date='Jun 3 2009, 11:10 AM']I'm just curious on why everyone hates drew rosenhaus. Do you hate all sports agents or just rosenhaus?[/quote]
almost every big name this year is bringing up more money and everytime he happen to be their agent. Hint Suggs

[baltiMORE RAVENS]

[quote name='theFRANCHISE' post='197076' date='Jun 3 2009, 12:19 PM']I respect the man for how successful he's been at his job, but I hate the way he's handled his business and I hate how he's fed into players' egos and encouraged this sports culture of self-importance.[/quote]

I don't know if you can blame players' huge egos and sense of self-importance on Drew Rosenhaus. He is not the guy handing out millions of dollars to players. People generally say that it is Drew Rosenhaus who gets all the "divas" and "team-killers", but that is not the case. Those guys hire Rosenhaus because he is the best of the best, not vice versa. Never forget that agents are the ones hired by the players. K2 and Ochocinco are not disruptive because of their agent, that is their character and mentality. Don't hate on Rosenhaus because those guys hire him to do their dirty work.

[theFRANCHISE]

[quote name='slugz1' post='197080' date='Jun 3 2009, 12:26 PM']almost every big name this year is bringing up more money and everytime he happen to be their agent. Hint Suggs[/quote]I think Rosenhaus could almost singlehandedly be the reason why the uncapped year is such a scary thought for so many owners and general managers. Sure, Jerry Jones and Daniel Snyder and Al Davis could afford to throw money at players, but the rest of the league would be at a significant disadvantage and there could be huge labor disputes if players don't get the contracts they want.

After all, if Free Agent X gets a big payday in that uncapped year, but he isn't a statistical leader at his position, Player Y could sit out until a new deal is reached because his production is greater than Free Agent X. Granted, that's a generalized (maybe dramatic) example, but we could see a domino effect if just one owner overly abuses the uncapped year (if it happens).

[bce086]

[quote name='Beninato' post='197070' date='Jun 3 2009, 12:13 PM']Isn't that was we as fans want? Our players to be happy with their current contract and be able to focus 100% on playing football?[/quote]


No, because a lot of the time his clients are unhappy with the salaries they are getting (Boldin obvious example) and have no team loyalty. They are just money hungry. But you have to look at it as a business.

As fans we have to worry because the more of his clients on our team who demand so much money = less salary we have to spend on our younger players we want to lock up.

[bce086]

[quote name='theFRANCHISE' post='197084' date='Jun 3 2009, 12:34 PM']Granted, that's a generalized (maybe dramatic) example, but we could see a domino effect if just one owner overly abuses the uncapped year (if it happens).[/quote]


I agree with every point you just made.

It almost seems as Jerry Jones is already somehow abusing the capped years.... Lol

[baltiMORE RAVENS]

[quote name='bce086' post='197085' date='Jun 3 2009, 12:35 PM']No, because a lot of the time his clients are unhappy with the salaries they are getting (Boldin obvious example) and have no team loyalty. They are just money hungry. But you have to look at it as a business.

As fans we have to worry because the more of his clients on our team who demand so much money = less salary we have to spend on our younger players we want to lock up.[/quote]

Boldin is now with Tom Condon, not Rosenhaus. Do you think he will be happy with his salary now? Or do you think he was money hungry because he was with Drew Rosenhaus? Think about what you are saying. Let me guess, you probably think Chad Johnson changed his name to Ochocinco because of Rosenhaus, and Plaxico Burress shot himself in the leg because of Rosenhaus. Here is a thought- those players are distractions because they are idiots, not because of their agent.

The PLAYERS hire Drew Rosenhaus, and any agent for that matter, to negotiate their deals. Rosenhaus doesn't hire them and tell them they need more money. ALL agents try and get their clients good deals; that is their job.

[b-morebrotha]

[quote name='MKdave' post='197071' date='Jun 3 2009, 12:14 PM']I don't think Brendan is really big enough to start in the 3-4. He's not even 230 pounds.
I think I'd actually prefer him in a safety role in dime formations. But we already have plenty of safeties...[/quote]

You can subsidize heart for size i.e rice, mjd, sproles. urlacker and our own ray lewis 13 seasons ago.

[MKdave]

[quote name='b-morebrotha' post='197099' date='Jun 3 2009, 06:45 PM']You can subsidize heart for size i.e rice, mjd, sproles. urlacker and our own ray lewis 13 seasons ago.[/quote]

MJD doesn't count, he's 215 pounds and he's short so he gets leverage.
Urlacher plays in a 4-3, so it's different.
And when Ray was that size (and he was never that size, he was more than 10 pounds heavier even at his smallest) he was in a 4-3.
Rice is small but you don't have to comply to nominal position sizes on offense so much because unorthodox players create mismatches, which are good on offense, bad on defense.

[MKdave]

Has anyone seen Rosenhaus' last tweet?

[quote]Santana restructured his contract with the Redskins in order to guarantee and front load the next two seasons. This will also improve his...[/quote]
[quote]...chances of getting a new contract extension after the 09 season. The Redskins are one of the best teams to work with - they want to win.[/quote]
Lol. No wonder he loves the Skins.

[b-morebrotha]

[quote name='MKdave' post='197102' date='Jun 3 2009, 02:02 PM']MJD doesn't count, he's 215 pounds and he's short so he gets leverage.
Urlacher plays in a 4-3, so it's different.
And when Ray was that size (and he was never that size, he was more than 10 pounds heavier even at his smallest) he was in a 4-3.
Rice is small but you don't have to comply to nominal position sizes on offense so much because unorthodox players create mismatches, which are good on offense, bad on defense.[/quote]

I'm just saying that all those players were considered small but play much bigger than there actual size regardless of the system or formation. Like the Rodmans and Ben Wallace's of the nba Mugsy even. Brees, Flutie all small dudes that play there positions well

[Strangebru]

[quote name='bce086' post='197068' date='Jun 3 2009, 12:08 PM']From a fans point of view, its bad news to hear Drew is one of your players agents, because HE ALMOST ALWAYS GETS what his players want.

From a players point of viwe -- He'd be my agent if I were a high caliber player in the NFL without a doubt.
He's got all the big name players, and they make top dollar in the NFL

You gotta have respect for this man, atleast for how well he is succeeding in his career. This man is LOADED[/quote]
I disagree, getting what his players want is his job. But it seems to me he is the one to over inflate his clients egos and makes them want more than what they have. It's one thing to look out for his players, it's another to try and fabricate situations to put more money in his pockets.

He is doing to NFL contracts what the sub-prime market did to the US economy. Getting people to refinance home loans year after year, and even saving them money each time they do it, is not really the reason they are helping those people out. The home owners are having to pay the banking, title, broker fees and taxes each time they get a new loan. So in essence what happens is the broker may only be making no more than 2% off of each loan they sell, if they do that once a year for 5 years that is 10% cumulative. This is why I think Drew Rosenhaus is not a reputable agent, because he wants new contracts for his players every year.

I think the most accurate thing you had in this post is "This man is LOADED." This begs the biggest question in this Brendan Ayanbadejo discussion, who brought about this controversy for Ayanbadejo to get more playing time? Have any of you heard ESPN mention Brendon saying anything bout it? Have you heard the Sun paper mention anything about it? Have you heard any of the local Baltimore quote Ayanbadejo about this? No, it was Drew Rosenhaus who started the whole thing for no other reason than to try and put more coin in his own pocket. He lost Anquan Boldin as a client and is now looking to find another way to make up for the loss of income. I hope more players leave this joker and let their parents act as their agents, let someone who could use, and appreciate, the 20% of these huge contracts make that kind of money.

[MKdave]

[quote name='b-morebrotha' post='197115' date='Jun 3 2009, 07:36 PM']I'm just saying that all those players were considered small but play much bigger than there actual size regardless of the system or formation. Like the Rodmans and Ben Wallace's of the nba Mugsy even. Brees, Flutie all small dudes that play there positions well[/quote]

But those guys were short. Height isn't that important in most cases, it's just the things usually attributed to height, like weight, reach, (hand size in QBs case, and Brees and Flutie have huge hands for their size). It's harder to find examples of players that are very under[b]weight[/b] for their position succeed than it is players considered too short. Especially on defense in the NFL.