Fair Weather Fans

[Alexir]

My friends and I were talking about the Ravens at a bonfire this evening and I was arguing with them how "fair weather fans" don't belong in Baltimore sports (we were also debating the Orioles)).

How do you guys feel about the topic of new fans following the Ravens (or Orioles) after having a great year (more on the Ravens part than the Orioles).

My arguement was that I don't as much mind it but I hate how when we lose a game they trash that given team. My particular arguement in the debate was that I am a Capitals fan and a lot of my friends kind of jumped on the bandwagon when we were in the post season but were soon to diss the team when we didn't make the conference title.

Basically my friends were saying any fan support is welcome but I felt that it really takes something away from the fans, like you and I who really follow the team and have been there for the lows and the highs and everything in between.

My friend brought up a point how he started watching the Ravens in 2006 (before the season started) and what makes him different between the fans who jumped on board when we were in the playoffs. I basically told him that it was acceptable because the season hadn't started begun and he was being a fan of a new hope instead of a fan who just cares when we are winning games.

What is your guys/gals take on this?

I for one, like I mentioned, get really ticked when someone jumps on board who wasn't there for the lows and who don't know the personnel of the team like the rest of us. But does it really matter though if they are willing to buy tickets and merchandise?

You guys being the most die hard fans that I know (since you post about the dumbest crap ever ) should have some input on this.

[Elmo]

I think, that it's not a matter of how you start following the team, but if you stick to it... For a lot of people (especially those not living in or near Baltimore) they will have started watching Baltimore during a "high", and then become fans. How you react when things go bad, is what defines whether or not your a "real" fan imo. I personally started watching NFL in 2000, and fell in love with the Ravens, who were obviously on a "high". I kept following the Ravens ever since though, so I don't concider myself a fair-weather fan, allthough I started watching the Ravens because they were the best team at the time I started watching NFL.

[TXRaven]

You are going to have Bandwagon friends when the team does well. Just a fact of life, but a true fan sticks with his/her team no matter what. Even though I now live in Texas. I am a Baltimore boy and have been an Orioles fan all my life. That will not change. I climbed on the Ravens bandwagon the minute they arrived in Baltimore in 1996. My seat on the wagon will become available only when I die. Don't worry though there is plenty room at the back of the bus when all the fair weather fans jump off.

[Chi_Town_Raven]

Well, technically, a "fair weather fan" is a fan that goes wherever it is nice. So a fan that sticks with the team forever wouldn't be considered a fair weather fan.

[Tighthead420]

Is being critical of a team during the lows is what you mean? I have been dumping on the blo's for some time now, but have always followed them, rooted for them no matter what as well as followed the team as much as possible. The same held true for the Ravens during their lows. I jumped on them when they were bad, but still considered myself a loyal fan. Now there are people I know who will just stop supporting alltogether during a bad streak. I think this is what you all mean.

But, there are also people who consider themselves die hard fans of any team who jump down the throats of anyone uttering any criticism whatsoever. That bothers me more than the fairweather fans.

[baltiMORE RAVENS]

I personally don't mind "fair weather fans" or "bandwagon fans". The fans that bother me are the self-righteous fans who think they are more of a fan because they have been a fan longer than somebody else or because they live in baltimore and get to go all to the games. I have been a fan for 10 years but I have only been to one game because I don't live close to baltimore. Am I less of a fan than someone that has season tickets? I wasn't a fan in 1996 because I was young and I didn't follow football, but I quickly picked the Ravens as my favorite team in 1998 when I started to watch the NFL. Am I less of a fan than someone who has been following the Ravens since the beginning in 1996? I have been a die-hard ravens fan for a long time, but I do not hold myself higher than any other fan, because thats not what being a fan is about. Be proud of your team, not proud of yourself for loving your team.

[Marc2k6]

Fair Weather fan's and Bandwagon rider's are great. They help with the crowd noise in great times of need. Plus I'm not going to discourage anyone from cheer for my team.

[RavensIQ]

Here's my take. There are 3 types of fans:

-Die Hards Fans
-Disappointed Fans
-Band Wagon Fans

Now Die Hard Fans are people like you and I. They dedicate their lives during that particular season solely to the team or organization they are rooting for. They're the ones who hang around when it's bright, and root even harder when it's dark and muggy out. Normally fans of this nature have an entire room/wall dedicated to their team, but an easy way to spot a true diehard is to search for any tattoos of their favorite team's logo or slogan imprinted somewhere on their body(face paint counts as does an entire wardrobe of said team's colors, also if you spot a fan crying or hysterically cheering hugging random strangers, chances are they qualify. One more note, any fan who belittles their TV set more than likely fall into this category as well).

Disappointed Fans are like most Orioles fans, basically people who want to support their team, but are too frustrated to give a dam anymore. An onslaught of horrible effort and miserable failure from said team/organization, can lead to a depressive period in this person's sporting life, and the only cure/way out of this miserable slump-fest, is for that particular team or city, to begin experiencing good vibes again, or bring a renowned sense of winning back to the atmosphere (basically Zoloft for Sporting fans). Thus what appears to be a group of band wagoners rejoining the ride, is really a large group of "disappointed fans" reawakening from their depressed state of broken heartedness with said team finally being able to return to true form enjoying every moment of that particular season (note Bengals fans in 05 or Browns fans in 07).

Bandwagon Fans are easy to spot. Basically anyone who likes the Cowboys, the Braves, the Orlando Magic, or any said team that no one would've otherwise given 2 slimey toilet logs 4 in the prior season. These are also the ones that like to follow the latest hype on ESPN as tho what is being said are words spoken directly from Jesus Almighty himself. They also are the ones who root for whoever is winning bcuz they are too scared to pick a side fearing that they could be wrong in the decisions they've made. Sticking with the latest trend both ensures a high success rate of satisfaction and a low failure rate of having people rub whatever "it" is in their face if they're wrong. Bandwagon fans are of the lowest form bcuz they neither root nor support said team but rather pretend to enjoy said team for however long that particular team is being hyped.

Now there is one more category of fan, but really this type of fan is insignificant. Better known as the "occasional fan" bcuz they're neither committed nor emotionally bound to the final result of that particular game/season. "Occasional Fans'' are merely tourists visiting a Die Hard fans world. You can treat them as guests, or simply not even bother to acknowledge them. Either way it doesn't matter, cuz honestly, whens the last time you're world came crashing to a screeching halt when you found out a chinese tourist got mugged in New York City on New Years Eve? Same applies to the "occasional fan". Really no feelings are attached. No one gives a dam.

[b-morebrotha]

[quote name='RavensIQ' post='196751' date='Jun 2 2009, 09:14 AM']Here's my take. There are 3 types of fans:

-Die Hards Fans
-Disappointed Fans
-Band Wagon Fans

Now Die Hard Fans are people like you and I. They dedicate their lives during that particular season solely to the team or organization they are rooting for. They're the ones who hang around when it's bright, and root even harder when it's dark and muggy out. Normally fans of this nature have an entire room/wall dedicated to their team, but an easy way to spot a true diehard is to search for any tattoos of their favorite team's logo or slogan imprinted somewhere on their body(face paint counts as does an entire wardrobe of said team's colors, also if you spot a fan crying or hysterically cheering hugging random strangers, chances are they qualify. One more note, any fan who belittles their TV set more than likely fall into this category as well).

Disappointed Fans are like most Orioles fans, basically people who want to support their team, but are too frustrated to give a dam anymore. An onslaught of horrible effort and miserable failure from said team/organization, can lead to a depressive period in this person's sporting life, and the only cure/way out of this miserable slump-fest, is for that particular team or city, to begin experiencing good vibes again, or bring a renowned sense of winning back to the atmosphere (basically Zoloft for Sporting fans). Thus what appears to be a group of band wagoners rejoining the ride, is really a large group of "disappointed fans" reawakening from their depressed state of broken heartedness with said team finally being able to return to true form enjoying every moment of that particular season (note Bengals fans in 05 or Browns fans in 07).

Bandwagon Fans are easy to spot. Basically anyone who likes the Cowboys, the Braves, the Orlando Magic, or any said team that no one would've otherwise given 2 slimey toilet logs 4 in the prior season. These are also the ones that like to follow the latest hype on ESPN as tho what is being said are words spoken directly from Jesus Almighty himself. They also are the ones who root for whoever is winning bcuz they are too scared to pick a side fearing that they could be wrong in the decisions they've made. Sticking with the latest trend both ensures a high success rate of satisfaction and a low failure rate of having people rub whatever "it" is in their face if they're wrong. Bandwagon fans are of the lowest form bcuz they neither root nor support said team but rather pretend to enjoy said team for however long that particular team is being hyped.

Now there is one more category of fan, but really this type of fan is insignificant. Better known as the "occasional fan" bcuz they're neither committed nor emotionally bound to the final result of that particular game/season. "Occasional Fans'' are merely tourists visiting a Die Hard fans world. You can treat them as guests, or simply not even bother to acknowledge them. Either way it doesn't matter, cuz honestly, whens the last time you're world came crashing to a screeching halt when you found out a chinese tourist got mugged in New York City on New Years Eve? Same applies to the "occasional fan". Really no feelings are attached. No one gives a dam.[/quote]

There's also fans of players that follow a particular player from team to team. Which could possibly be confused with bandwagoon jumpers because of there sudden emergence with a Pats jersey after wearing an oakland jersey for 2 yrs or a vikes jersey for several more. Or own a Dwight Howard jersey because he's just a freakisk man child and will soon own a stephen curry jersey as well. Not that i'm speaking on anyone in particular ;-)

[smashmouth]

[quote name='RavensIQ' post='196751' date='Jun 2 2009, 09:14 AM']Here's my take. There are 3 types of fans:

-Die Hards Fans
-Disappointed Fans
-Band Wagon Fans

Now Die Hard Fans are people like you and I. They dedicate their lives during that particular season solely to the team or organization they are rooting for. They're the ones who hang around when it's bright, and root even harder when it's dark and muggy out. Normally fans of this nature have an entire room/wall dedicated to their team, but an easy way to spot a true diehard is to search for any tattoos of their favorite team's logo or slogan imprinted somewhere on their body(face paint counts as does an entire wardrobe of said team's colors, also if you spot a fan crying or hysterically cheering hugging random strangers, chances are they qualify. One more note, any fan who belittles their TV set more than likely fall into this category as well).

Disappointed Fans are like most Orioles fans, basically people who want to support their team, but are too frustrated to give a dam anymore. An onslaught of horrible effort and miserable failure from said team/organization, can lead to a depressive period in this person's sporting life, and the only cure/way out of this miserable slump-fest, is for that particular team or city, to begin experiencing good vibes again, or bring a renowned sense of winning back to the atmosphere (basically Zoloft for Sporting fans). Thus what appears to be a group of band wagoners rejoining the ride, is really a large group of "disappointed fans" reawakening from their depressed state of broken heartedness with said team finally being able to return to true form enjoying every moment of that particular season (note Bengals fans in 05 or Browns fans in 07).

Bandwagon Fans are easy to spot. Basically anyone who likes the Cowboys, the Braves, the Orlando Magic, or any said team that no one would've otherwise given 2 slimey toilet logs 4 in the prior season. These are also the ones that like to follow the latest hype on ESPN as tho what is being said are words spoken directly from Jesus Almighty himself. They also are the ones who root for whoever is winning bcuz they are too scared to pick a side fearing that they could be wrong in the decisions they've made. Sticking with the latest trend both ensures a high success rate of satisfaction and a low failure rate of having people rub whatever "it" is in their face if they're wrong. Bandwagon fans are of the lowest form bcuz they neither root nor support said team but rather pretend to enjoy said team for however long that particular team is being hyped.

Now there is one more category of fan, but really this type of fan is insignificant. Better known as the "occasional fan" bcuz they're neither committed nor emotionally bound to the final result of that particular game/season. "Occasional Fans'' are merely tourists visiting a Die Hard fans world. You can treat them as guests, or simply not even bother to acknowledge them. Either way it doesn't matter, cuz honestly, whens the last time you're world came crashing to a screeching halt when you found out a chinese tourist got mugged in New York City on New Years Eve? Same applies to the "occasional fan". Really no feelings are attached. No one gives a dam.[/quote]

These are all great points. I give you a 10 out of 10.
[quote name='b-morebrotha' post='196752' date='Jun 2 2009, 09:31 AM']There's also fans of players that follow a particular player from team to team. Which could possibly be confused with bandwagoon jumpers because of there sudden emergence with a Pats jersey after wearing an oakland jersey for 2 yrs or a vikes jersey for several more. Or own a Dwight Howard jersey because he's just a freakisk man child and will soon own a stephen curry jersey as well. Not that i'm speaking on anyone in particular ;-)[/quote]
I've seen quite a few of these people. I also see alot of people who are not reallybandwagon fans but will sport other teams gear. for instance a philly fan will grab a Pats hat after there superbowl win, but really dont like the Pats. We all know alot of players wear Yankee hats, but thats just a fad thing, or the love for NY. Who dosent like NY city though.

I do follow certain players from college, I dont root for the team or even watch there games but I will keep track of there stats. For instance, one of my foster dad's was a Sooner fan, Randell El was fun and amazing to watch(he was a QB in college,reciever in the NFL), so I always tracked his stats, but as we all know he was a Steeler so in NO WAY was a cheering or 'always' watching him. So IMO I guess it depends on how they act. I've seen die hard college fans who dont really watch the NFL become NFL fans from one player. I guess there's nothing wrong with that unless the jump ship because 'that' team wasnt doing well.

To each his own I guess. I really only hate the Steelers and Cowboys fans, alot of people like the Cowboys because they hear there "Americas team". And Steeler fans are like Imbreeds or even better yet roaches, there all over the place because of there SB wins in the 70's. And they just scattered everywhere because Pittsburgh is one of the worst places I've ever been too.

[shaikh015]

[quote name='Alexir' post='196723' date='Jun 2 2009, 04:17 AM']My friends and I were talking about the Ravens at a bonfire this evening and I was arguing with them how "fair weather fans" don't belong in Baltimore sports (we were also debating the Orioles)).

How do you guys feel about the topic of new fans following the Ravens (or Orioles) after having a great year (more on the Ravens part than the Orioles).

My arguement was that I don't as much mind it but I hate how when we lose a game they trash that given team. My particular arguement in the debate was that I am a Capitals fan and a lot of my friends kind of jumped on the bandwagon when we were in the post season but were soon to diss the team when we didn't make the conference title.

Basically my friends were saying any fan support is welcome but I felt that it really takes something away from the fans, like you and I who really follow the team and have been there for the lows and the highs and everything in between.

My friend brought up a point how he started watching the Ravens in 2006 (before the season started) and what makes him different between the fans who jumped on board when we were in the playoffs. I basically told him that it was acceptable because the season hadn't started begun and he was being a fan of a new hope instead of a fan who just cares when we are winning games.

What is your guys/gals take on this?



I for one, like I mentioned, get really ticked when someone jumps on board who wasn't there for the lows and who don't know the personnel of the team like the rest of us. But does it really matter though if they are willing to buy tickets and merchandise?

You guys being the most die hard fans that I know (since you post about the dumbest crap ever ) should have some input on this.[/quote]





What about fans like me that have been rooting for this team for more then 10 years..

[Ravnet]

This is like saying only diehard political activists can vote in elections; nobody actually likes fair weather fans, but let's be honest, we wouldn't survive without them.

[slugz1]

Q you also forgot the fans that donthave a clue as to what there talking bout: PPl crying over jim leonhard,saying barnes is slow, trade suggs, Willis better than ray (ray is better, willis is just more physically gifted), we have no chance of beating the colts,one wish Nak left over leo.

[Ravnet]

[quote name='slugz1' post='196788' date='Jun 2 2009, 12:10 PM']we have no chance of beating the colts[/quote]

We don't have a chance of beating the Colts, and you better not tell Alexir that anyone is better than Willis.

[Strangebru]

[quote name='Alexir' post='196723' date='Jun 2 2009, 04:17 AM']My friends and I were talking about the Ravens at a bonfire this evening and I was arguing with them how "fair weather fans" don't belong in Baltimore sports (we were also debating the Orioles)).

How do you guys feel about the topic of new fans following the Ravens (or Orioles) after having a great year (more on the Ravens part than the Orioles).

My arguement was that I don't as much mind it but I hate how when we lose a game they trash that given team. My particular arguement in the debate was that I am a Capitals fan and a lot of my friends kind of jumped on the bandwagon when we were in the post season but were soon to diss the team when we didn't make the conference title.

Basically my friends were saying any fan support is welcome but I felt that it really takes something away from the fans, like you and I who really follow the team and have been there for the lows and the highs and everything in between.

My friend brought up a point how he started watching the Ravens in 2006 (before the season started) and what makes him different between the fans who jumped on board when we were in the playoffs. I basically told him that it was acceptable because the season hadn't started begun and he was being a fan of a new hope instead of a fan who just cares when we are winning games.

What is your guys/gals take on this?

I for one, like I mentioned, get really ticked when someone jumps on board who wasn't there for the lows and who don't know the personnel of the team like the rest of us. But does it really matter though if they are willing to buy tickets and merchandise?

You guys being the most die hard fans that I know (since you post about the dumbest crap ever ) should have some input on this.[/quote]
It's really easy to weed out the real fans from the bandwagoneers:

1) Ask them who the current owner of the Ravens is, if they still think it is Art Modell they are a BW fan.

2) (more for Orioles fans) Ask them what year a team named Browns [color="#000000"][u][b]first[/b][/u][/color] moved to Baltimore, before changing their name. Most think it is 1996, but it is actually 1954 when the St. Louis Browns moved to Baltimore and changed their name to Orioles. Make sure you ask this question properly otherwise 1996 is a legitimate answer.

3) Ask them who the the Ravens RB was before Jamal Lewis, a few of them will know it was Priest Holmes, even though now most associate him with the Chiefs.

4) Ask them what the original name of the stadium the Ravens currently play in. Everyone liked calling PSI.net Stadium, pissy net, ant least those in Baltimore.

5) Lastly ask them the name of the current DC. If they know Greg Mattison they either follow the Ravens, or are a Notre Dame Alumnus.

[Ravnet]

[quote name='Strangebru' post='196797' date='Jun 2 2009, 12:31 PM']2) (more for Orioles fans) Ask them what year a team named Browns [color="#000000"][u][b]first[/b][/u][/color] moved to Baltimore, before changing their name. Most think it is 1996, but it is actually 1954 when the St. Louis Browns moved to Baltimore and changed their name to Orioles. Make sure you ask this question properly otherwise 1996 is a legitimate answer.[/quote]

I would never, ever get that question right.

If you continually asked me when the Browns moved to Baltimore, I would keep telling you 1996, and I'm a bigger O's fan than Ravens fan.

[edreedfromtheu]

There are only TWO types of fans.

1. Those who want Troy Smith to start for the Ravens

2. Those who were blinded by our amazing defense and run game, who want Flacco to start!

Now, LET THE FIGHTING BEGIN! )

[edreedfromtheu]

Also:

There are fans who want Boldin, and there are fans who don't. )

[Strangebru]

[quote name='edreedfromtheu' post='196802' date='Jun 2 2009, 12:46 PM']Also:

There are fans who want Boldin, and there are fans who don't. )[/quote]

[slugz1]

[quote name='Ravnet' post='196791' date='Jun 2 2009, 12:12 PM']We don't have a chance of beating the Colts, and you better not tell Alexir that anyone is better than Willis.[/quote]
u might wanna find another team then cause there is nothing the ravens cant overcome.

[Alexir]

[quote name='Ravnet' post='196791' date='Jun 2 2009, 12:12 PM']We don't have a chance of beating the Colts, and you better not tell Alexir that anyone is better than Willis.[/quote]

Willis is better than Walter Payton and Jim Brown combined!

Ok. I am a little over the top

[Alexir]

[quote name='Strangebru' post='196797' date='Jun 2 2009, 12:31 PM']It's really easy to weed out the real fans from the bandwagoneers:

1) Ask them who the current owner of the Ravens is, if they still think it is Art Modell they are a BW fan.

2) (more for Orioles fans) Ask them what year a team named Browns [color="#000000"][u][b]first[/b][/u][/color] moved to Baltimore, before changing their name. Most think it is 1996, but it is actually 1954 when the St. Louis Browns moved to Baltimore and changed their name to Orioles. Make sure you ask this question properly otherwise 1996 is a legitimate answer.

3) Ask them who the the Ravens RB was before Jamal Lewis, a few of them will know it was Priest Holmes, even though now most associate him with the Chiefs.

4) Ask them what the original name of the stadium the Ravens currently play in. Everyone liked calling PSI.net Stadium, pissy net, ant least those in Baltimore.

5) Lastly ask them the name of the current DC. If they know Greg Mattison they either follow the Ravens, or are a Notre Dame Alumnus.[/quote]

Yep, two teams named the browns moved to baltimore and we changed the name of both of them (thank god). Also, a neat little tidbit, the Redskins were originally from Boston and were called the Boston Braves.

Also, Baltimore almost had a hockey team but the team ended up being the St. Louis Blues.

[72Marshall]

I think sports are taken too serious. Some people seem to think that if you don't like a sports team then you

[slugz1]

[quote name='72Marshall' date='Jun 2 2009, 02:10 PM' post='196822']
I think sports are taken too serious. Some people seem to think that if you don't like a sports team then you

[lowrider]

[quote name='Strangebru' post='196797' date='Jun 2 2009, 12:31 PM']It's really easy to weed out the real fans from the bandwagoneers:

1) Ask them who the current owner of the Ravens is, if they still think it is Art Modell they are a BW fan.

2) (more for Orioles fans) Ask them what year a team named Browns [color="#000000"][u][b]first[/b][/u][/color] moved to Baltimore, before changing their name. Most think it is 1996, but it is actually 1954 when the St. Louis Browns moved to Baltimore and changed their name to Orioles. Make sure you ask this question properly otherwise 1996 is a legitimate answer.

3) Ask them who the the Ravens RB was before Jamal Lewis, a few of them will know it was Priest Holmes, even though now most associate him with the Chiefs.

4) Ask them what the original name of the stadium the Ravens currently play in. Everyone liked calling PSI.net Stadium, pissy net, ant least those in Baltimore.

5) Lastly ask them the name of the current DC. If they know Greg Mattison they either follow the Ravens, or are a Notre Dame Alumnus.[/quote]
Thats kind of rough. I dont know if not knowing the stadium name really makes you a fair weather fan. I just normally ask if they can name two offensive linemen or 15 players on the team. If they dont even know their players names then they arent a fan at all.

I think those questions more of seperate the average fans and diehard fans. I understand that some people dont obsess about the Ravens like we do but i dont think they should be put on the level of fair weather fans. But i still feel they should be labeled as Ravens fans

[b-morebrotha]

[quote name='smashmouth' post='196754' date='Jun 2 2009, 09:53 AM']These are all great points. I give you a 10 out of 10.

I've seen quite a few of these people. I also see alot of people who are not reallybandwagon fans but will sport other teams gear. for instance a philly fan will grab a Pats hat after there superbowl win, but really dont like the Pats. We all know alot of players wear Yankee hats, but thats just a fad thing, or the love for NY. Who dosent like NY city though.

I do follow certain players from college, I dont root for the team or even watch there games but I will keep track of there stats. For instance, one of my foster dad's was a Sooner fan, Randell El was fun and amazing to watch(he was a QB in college,reciever in the NFL), so I always tracked his stats, but as we all know he was a Steeler so in NO WAY was a cheering or 'always' watching him. So IMO I guess it depends on how they act. I've seen die hard college fans who dont really watch the NFL become NFL fans from one player. I guess there's nothing wrong with that unless the jump ship because 'that' team wasnt doing well.

To each his own I guess. I really only hate the Steelers and Cowboys fans, alot of people like the Cowboys because they hear there "Americas team". And Steeler fans are like Imbreeds or even better yet roaches, there all over the place because of there SB wins in the 70's. And they just scattered everywhere because Pittsburgh is one of the worst places I've ever been too.[/quote]
Yeah I was a dennis dixon fan in college and I don't want to hate him so I hope he signs w someone else as a F.A. I like Pat White and Slaton too. So I mainly follow players in college and root for there respective teams then root for them to do well in the nfl or nba.

[quote name='Strangebru' post='196797' date='Jun 2 2009, 12:31 PM']It's really easy to weed out the real fans from the bandwagoneers:

1) Ask them who the current owner of the Ravens is, if they still think it is Art Modell they are a BW fan.

2) (more for Orioles fans) Ask them what year a team named Browns [color="#000000"][u][b]first[/b][/u][/color] moved to Baltimore, before changing their name. Most think it is 1996, but it is actually 1954 when the St. Louis Browns moved to Baltimore and changed their name to Orioles. Make sure you ask this question properly otherwise 1996 is a legitimate answer.

3) Ask them who the the Ravens RB was before Jamal Lewis, a few of them will know it was Priest Holmes, even though now most associate him with the Chiefs.

4) Ask them what the original name of the stadium the Ravens currently play in. Everyone liked calling PSI.net Stadium, pissy net, ant least those in Baltimore.

5) Lastly ask them the name of the current DC. If they know Greg Mattison they either follow the Ravens, or are a Notre Dame Alumnus.[/quote]

I'll give you 3 more points if you can tell me what was the name of the first place the orioles played there games at?

[quote name='Alexir' post='196811' date='Jun 2 2009, 01:08 PM']Yep, two teams named the browns moved to baltimore and we changed the name of both of them (thank god). Also, a neat little tidbit, the Redskins were originally from Boston and were called the Boston Braves.

Also, Baltimore almost had a hockey team but the team ended up being the St. Louis Blues.[/quote]
Hey didn't we have the skipjacks?

[lowrider]

[quote name='b-morebrotha' post='196827' date='Jun 2 2009, 02:30 PM']I'll give you 3 more points if you can tell me what was the name of the first place the orioles played there games at?[/quote]

Wasnt it Milwakee? Start in Milwakee, then to St. Louis. then Baltimore. Or are we talking about specific names of the stadium because i have no idea if we are talking about name of the stadiums

[Ravnet]

[quote name='slugz1' post='196805' date='Jun 2 2009, 12:54 PM']u might wanna find another team then cause there is nothing the ravens cant overcome.[/quote]

Be right back, let me get on that.

[jfc13]

Being able to answer random questions about a team has no bearing on whether someone is a bandwagon fan or a "true" fan or anything like that.

As for bandwagon fans, like someone else said, it doesn't matter [i]how[/i] you become a fan - as long as you support your team in whatever way you see fit. Unless the team is your home team, you probably wouldn't notice them unless they [i]did[/i] have a good season, so I would think that most fans that aren't from the hometown of that team probably [i]are[/i] bandwagon fans, and who cares? They are still fans.

It doesn't matter whether you can attend games or whether you buy a lot of paraphernalia or if you have an altar in your basement where you sacrifice small bugs to your team's deity [aka: star player].

Being a fan is just supporting a team in whatever way you see fit, whether you've been supporting that team for years or just "discovered" them an hour ago.

It's annoying when a self-professed "true" fan says someone else is not a "true" fan, based on whatever self-serving criteria they happened to make up, which incidentally, [i]they [/i]can pass, and which allows themselves to be "true" fans.

[b-morebrotha]

[quote name='lowrider' post='196828' date='Jun 2 2009, 02:36 PM']Wasnt it Milwakee? Start in Milwakee, then to St. Louis. then Baltimore. Or are we talking about specific names of the stadium because i have no idea if we are talking about name of the stadiums[/quote]

The name of the field/stadium