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Le'ron Mcclain

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So as i was reading this article on the Ravens and how they need to improve on offense etc. etc. i scrolled down to the heading labeled "fitness report." and reportedly Le'Ron McClain is over 20 pounds his playing size. That is ridiculous. and he didn't do this to his body only this year, but even last year (and maybe the season before idk) he's had the same weight issue. I remember him having cramps every training camp because he was not fit. heck, i even remember his rookie year the ambulance had to come out to get him, just b/c of his cramps in training camp. he's got to get that weight problem straight. i mean i've seen him pull off some of his dramatic weight losses last year, but c'mon, le'ron, if you start off fit early, you will do so much better.

but on a side note, look at ray rice! he's got a nice lower body with a bigger chest. i'm pumped to see this man.

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[quote name='#1 D' post='196256' date='May 31 2009, 05:52 PM'][url="http://www.baltimoresun.com/sports/football/bal-sp.preston31may31,0,1480030.column"]http://www.baltimoresun.com/sports/footbal...,1480030.column[/url]

So as i was reading this article on the Ravens and how they need to improve on offense etc. etc. i scrolled down to the heading labeled "fitness report." and reportedly Le'Ron McClain is over 20 pounds his playing size. That is ridiculous. and he didn't do this to his body only this year, but even last year (and maybe the season before idk) he's had the same weight issue. I remember him having cramps every training camp because he was not fit. heck, i even remember his rookie year the ambulance had to come out to get him, just b/c of his cramps in training camp. he's got to get that weight problem straight. i mean i've seen him pull off some of his dramatic weight losses last year, but c'mon, le'ron, if you start off fit early, you will do so much better.

but on a side note, look at ray rice! he's got a nice lower body with a bigger chest. i'm pumped to see this man.

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He's our only FB in our roster...if he's not fit yet, he'd better get on it! he's got till august.
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[quote name='#1 D' post='196256' date='May 31 2009, 05:52 PM'][url="http://www.baltimoresun.com/sports/football/bal-sp.preston31may31,0,1480030.column"]http://www.baltimoresun.com/sports/footbal...,1480030.column[/url]

So as i was reading this article on the Ravens and how they need to improve on offense etc. etc. i scrolled down to the heading labeled "fitness report." and reportedly Le'Ron McClain is over 20 pounds his playing size. That is ridiculous. and he didn't do this to his body only this year, but even last year (and maybe the season before idk) he's had the same weight issue. I remember him having cramps every training camp because he was not fit. heck, i even remember his rookie year the ambulance had to come out to get him, just b/c of his cramps in training camp. he's got to get that weight problem straight. i mean i've seen him pull off some of his dramatic weight losses last year, but c'mon, le'ron, if you start off fit early, you will do so much better.

but on a side note, look at ray rice! he's got a nice lower body with a bigger chest. i'm pumped to see this man.

thoughts?[/quote]

I for the life of me can't understand how athletes are out of shape. You get paid millions of dollars to stay in shape and work out during the off-season. You have no other commitments, is it so hard to hit the gym for a few hours a day and eat right MOST of the time?
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[quote name='Beninato' post='196265' date='May 31 2009, 06:10 PM']I for the life of me can't understand how athletes are out of shape. You get paid millions of dollars to stay in shape and work out during the off-season. You have no other commitments, is it so hard to hit the gym for a few hours a day and eat right MOST of the time?[/quote]
eh, le'ron's had some sort of excuse every year.
his first year, he had to finish his degree and couldn't keep in shape. ok makes sense.
next year he just had a baby born and couldn't keep in shape. im glad for you leron but i think you can still go to the gym.
this year, we dont know yet. i hope this doesn't end up to be a common trend, b/c it ain't good for him.
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I could see a guy coming in about 8-10 lbs over weight. Some players will want to extra weight to hold as they slim down. Rather than come in at pefect shape and then dip far below their playing weight due to camp, having a higher staring point may allow them to slim down to a better initial weight. There fore they won't be stacking the weight back on in a rush, which isn't good either.

20lbs is a bit much, but 8-10 I can see just as they expect to lose it. And a guy that is 230 lbs, 8 lbs isn't that much of a huge deal. At least not to me.
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Well, he'll have to be heavier to be a full time full back. All we know right now is Mike Preston thinks he 'looks' 20 pounds overweight . We don't know how much is fat and how much is muscle. So let's get the full story before we pass judgement.
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[quote name='Slappy' post='196270' date='May 31 2009, 11:19 PM']20lbs is a bit much, but 8-10 I can see just as they expect to lose it. And a guy that is 230 lbs, 8 lbs isn't that much of a huge deal. At least not to me.[/quote]

If this is in reference to McClain, McClain is more like 260, 270.
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[quote name='#1 D' post='196256' date='May 31 2009, 05:52 PM'][url="http://www.baltimoresun.com/sports/football/bal-sp.preston31may31,0,1480030.column"]http://www.baltimoresun.com/sports/footbal...,1480030.column[/url]

So as i was reading this article on the Ravens and how they need to improve on offense etc. etc. i scrolled down to the heading labeled "fitness report." and reportedly Le'Ron McClain is over 20 pounds his playing size. That is ridiculous. and he didn't do this to his body only this year, but even last year (and maybe the season before idk) he's had the same weight issue. I remember him having cramps every training camp because he was not fit. heck, i even remember his rookie year the ambulance had to come out to get him, just b/c of his cramps in training camp. he's got to get that weight problem straight. i mean i've seen him pull off some of his dramatic weight losses last year, but c'mon, le'ron, if you start off fit early, you will do so much better.

but on a side note, look at ray rice! he's got a nice lower body with a bigger chest. i'm pumped to see this man.

thoughts?[/quote]

That statement from the article was strictly from a opinion stand point. There is no real reports coming out of Ravens headquarter that LeRon is over weight this year.

The guys from the sun say that LeRon looks 20 pounds over wieght, while Duffy says that leRon is in great shape and has been present for all of the Ravens offseason workouts.

[url="http://www.baltimoreravens.com/News/Articles/2009/05/McClain_Returns_to_Fullback.aspx"]BR.COM[/url]

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[quote name='Beninato' post='196265' date='May 31 2009, 06:10 PM']I for the life of me can't understand how athletes are out of shape. You get paid millions of dollars to stay in shape and work out during the off-season. You have no other commitments, is it so hard to hit the gym for a few hours a day and eat right MOST of the time?[/quote]

Well, if you honestly don't know, than you must not know why there is an off-season. It's basic biology that prolonged stress (i.e. the football season) wears the body down and the body needs time to recover from this. I'm not saying athletes stop working entirely, but they slow down to recuperate. This means that they are not burning as many calories, and if they are not burning as many calories and don't drastically change their diet, it is easy for their weight to balloon after the end of the season. For instance, (leaving all pot jokes aside) I had heard that after the Olympics, Phelps gained like 50 lbs before he got back to training.
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[quote name='Borris' post='196291' date='May 31 2009, 07:35 PM']Well, if you honestly don't know, than you must not know why there is an off-season. It's basic biology that prolonged stress (i.e. the football season) wears the body down and the body needs time to recover from this. I'm not saying athletes stop working entirely, but they slow down to recuperate. This means that they are not burning as many calories, and if they are not burning as many calories and don't drastically change their diet, it is easy for their weight to balloon after the end of the season. For instance, (leaving all pot jokes aside) I had heard that after the Olympics, Phelps gained like 50 lbs before he got back to training.[/quote]

The thing is, this isn't half the team coming in 10-20 pounds overweight, this is one guy.
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[quote name='Ravensfan23' post='196287' date='May 31 2009, 07:23 PM']That statement from the article was strictly from a opinion stand point. There is no real reports coming out of Ravens headquarter that LeRon is over weight this year.

The guys from the sun say that LeRon looks 20 pounds over wieght, while Duffy says that leRon is in great shape and has been present for all of the Ravens offseason workouts.

[url="http://www.baltimoreravens.com/News/Articles/2009/05/McClain_Returns_to_Fullback.aspx"]BR.COM[/url]



So i guess it just all depends on who's opinion u respect more, and waiting to watch him in camp and preseason.[/quote]

Yeah, but i think ima go with Preston, given that his news article came out today (31st) , as opposed to Mike Duffy's comment which came at the 13th.
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[quote name='#1 D' post='196256' date='May 31 2009, 05:52 PM'][url="http://www.baltimoresun.com/sports/football/bal-sp.preston31may31,0,1480030.column"]http://www.baltimoresun.com/sports/footbal...,1480030.column[/url]

So as i was reading this article on the Ravens and how they need to improve on offense etc. etc. i scrolled down to the heading labeled "fitness report." and reportedly Le'Ron McClain is over 20 pounds his playing size. That is ridiculous. and he didn't do this to his body only this year, but even last year (and maybe the season before idk) he's had the same weight issue. I remember him having cramps every training camp because he was not fit. heck, i even remember his rookie year the ambulance had to come out to get him, just b/c of his cramps in training camp. he's got to get that weight problem straight. i mean i've seen him pull off some of his dramatic weight losses last year, but c'mon, le'ron, if you start off fit early, you will do so much better.

but on a side note, look at ray rice! he's got a nice lower body with a bigger chest. i'm pumped to see this man.

thoughts?[/quote]

20 lbs is nothing for offseason weight gain - not for the bigger guys. He can lose that in a few weeks. Remember, these guys aren't like regular humans you meet on the street. When he puts the engine in motion he'll be able to knock that weight off easily.
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[quote name='Zhamtao' post='196304' date='May 31 2009, 08:23 PM']20 lbs is nothing for offseason weight gain - not for the bigger guys. He can lose that in a few weeks. Remember, these guys aren't like regular humans you meet on the street. When he puts the engine in motion he'll be able to knock that weight off easily.[/quote]

yeah, you're right...i remember last year when he had a similar prob, but in training camp he lost soo much weight even the coaches were surprised how he lost that much weight in that little time. but as impressive is that is, i just don't think that's the way to go. i mean look at ray rice for example. young like le'ron, but he kept it going by building bulk. couldnt've le'ron done something useful for his body in the offseason? idk its his life but still, his profession is, after all, an athlete.
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Hmm. Interesting. He could be overweight, I doubt 20 lbs though. I know he looked in great shape at the SFF (draft), much more muscular then I thought of him from last year. who knows, I'm sure he'll be fine.
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If he has really gained 20 pounds of mostly fat and not muscle, then this is an issue. There aren't any excuses barring a life-altering event taking place.

You don't come into camp a full 20 pounds overweight in hopes of not going under. Do you think Ray Lewis regularly shows up at Owings Mills 25 lbs. heavier than usual?

I wouldn't be surprised if Preston was exaggerating/miscalculated, though 8 - 14 lbs. sounds about right considering McClain's past.
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[quote name='#1 D' post='196300' date='May 31 2009, 08:08 PM']Yeah, but i think ima go with Preston, given that his news article came out today (31st) , as opposed to Mike Duffy's comment which came at the 13th.[/quote]

#1 D, i think we have to agree to disagree on this one. There is no proof of McClain actually being overwieght by 20 pounds, just someone saying that he looked to be 20 pounds overweight.

You say u will go with Preston because his article came out later and that is cool, but think about it for a second. Duffy's article came out on the 13th and Preston's on the 31st. So we are talkin about a guy gaining 20 pounds in 2 1/2 weeks?

Now lets look at the time line for a bit. Duffy's article(which came out on the 13th of May) mentions that McClain has been a regular at the Castle for workout programs since March 16th. Mini Camps started on May the 8th and has continued through just this past week.

So if conditioning programs started March 16 and Preston's article came out today(May 31st), if Duffy's statement are true, that would mean McClain has been involved in football related things for atleast 2 months. All the way up until Duffy's article came out(May 13th) McClain was in good shape, even Cam Cameron has been impressed by McClain. Now 2 1/2 short weeks later Preston(May 31st) states McClain is 20 pound over wieght. It just doesn't add up to me. Atleast 2 months of offseason conditioning and practice was thrown away in 2 weeks, because what McClain just sat in the house and ate junk food without working out? Its hard for any person to gain 20 pounds over a 2 week period, let alone a guy that has been running around on a practice field, and working out in a wight room for 2 months prior.

I'm not questioning Mike Prestons credibility here, i'm just saying that its hard to beleive that as guy that has been said to be working so hard, has all of a sudden gain 20 pounds over his playing weight. Maybe Preston got a lil carried away just for the sake of his article. like i said before who really knows until McClain is seen at training camp, and that doesn't start for another 2 months so, how will we really know if McClain was over weight on May 31st. Just my opinion
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Well, considering Duffy's article said that he's been hitting the weights, it's possible he's gained 20 pounds of muscle, and Preston has wrongly identified it as fat. It can be hard to tell with some guys under pads, especially on the chest, and on a man so large as McClain, it can be easy to overestimate a weight gain.
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[quote name='MKdave' post='196384' date='Jun 1 2009, 06:38 AM']Well, considering Duffy's article said that he's been hitting the weights, it's possible he's gained 20 pounds of muscle, and Preston has wrongly identified it as fat. [b]It can be hard to tell with some guys under pads[/b], especially on the chest, and on a man so large as McClain, it can be easy to overestimate a weight gain.[/quote]

That is true but the players haven't been in pads at all yet. I think it is possible that mclain may be a little bigger in order to play more fullback this year. He probably played a little bit under his normal playing weight last year because he got so many carries as the feature back. I remember a couple of weeks ago, Cam talking about how great Leron looked and how much better he is, so maybe the coaches wanted him to put some weight on.
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McClain can't let what he did last year get to his head. Yes he led the team in several rushing categories and was a Pro Bowler but this is a new season and he has to put in the work to have the same success he did last year.
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Lets not forget that McClain is already a pretty big boy, 20lbs is really nothing and he can lift and build muscle over that weight.. what worrys me more about him is that he partys and drinks alot. Physically this can't be good for his body.
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[quote name='ravensgirl88' post='196393' date='Jun 1 2009, 08:34 AM']Lets not forget that McClain is already a pretty big boy, 20lbs is really nothing and he can lift and build muscle over that weight.. [b]what worrys me more about him is that he partys and drinks alot. [/b]Physically this can't be good for his body.[/quote]

Really? I have never heard anything about that before. How do you know that?
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[quote name='baltiMORE RAVENS' post='196399' date='Jun 1 2009, 08:50 AM']Really? I have never heard anything about that before. How do you know that?[/quote]

I was wondering the same thing.
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Have no fear, the McClain train will be ready. Id stake a Benjamin on it. I agree with the previous poster in that its Prestons' opinion. Who knows maybe LeRon has been hitting the weights!?
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[quote name='ravensgirl88' post='196393' date='Jun 1 2009, 08:34 AM']Lets not forget that McClain is already a pretty big boy, 20lbs is really nothing and he can lift and build muscle over that weight.. what worrys me more about him is that he partys and drinks alot. Physically this can't be good for his body.[/quote]


X2? How do you know this?
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[quote name='baltiMORE RAVENS' post='196399' date='Jun 1 2009, 08:50 AM']Really? I have never heard anything about that before. How do you know that?[/quote]

Just trust me on it.
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"Leron McClain is 20 pounds overweight."

"Ray Rice looks amazing and has added size to his chest."

"McClain parties a lot."


HOW IN THE WORLD DO ANY OF YOU KNOW ANY OF THIS?


Only LeRon knows how much he should weigh. Sure, the team might have their input. But he knows if he feels slow or if he feels weak and needs more power.

Was someone spying on Ray Rice in the shower? Okay, perhaps you saw him with his shirt off at an OTA, but did you actually TAKE measurements of his chest last year and then again this year?

Did someone invite McClain to a house party? Did he invite you? Were you both out at PowerPlant together? And does this happen often? Or did you just see him once?
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I mean... he can't go out more than Chris McAllister, Evan Oglesby, and Ronnie Prude did. They were at PP on the regular.
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[quote name='edreedfromtheu' post='196420' date='Jun 1 2009, 09:32 AM']"Leron McClain is 20 pounds overweight."

"Ray Rice looks amazing and has added size to his chest."

"McClain parties a lot."


HOW IN THE WORLD DO ANY OF YOU KNOW ANY OF THIS?


Only LeRon knows how much he should weigh. Sure, the team might have their input. But he knows if he feels slow or if he feels weak and needs more power.

Was someone spying on Ray Rice in the shower? Okay, perhaps you saw him with his shirt off at an OTA, but did you actually TAKE measurements of his chest last year and then again this year?

Did someone invite McClain to a house party? Did he invite you? Were you both out at PowerPlant together? And does this happen often? Or did you just see him once?
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I mean... he can't go out more than Chris McAllister, Evan Oglesby, and Ronnie Prude did. They were at PP on the regular.[/quote]


You'd be suprised. Every week he's sending out different Emails about clubs he's promoting and every personal picture i've seen of him is with a drink in his hand. Obviously he doesnt party at power plant, he lives in Tuscaloosa, Alabama and thats where he's at during the off-season.


Im not judging! Just stating what I i've seen. Take it is you wish.



The only point I was trying to make was that we shouldnt be worried about his weight. It's stupid. He can easily lose it, or just gain more muscle.
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[quote name='edreedfromtheu' post='196420' date='Jun 1 2009, 10:32 AM']"Leron McClain is 20 pounds overweight."

"Ray Rice looks amazing and has added size to his chest."[/quote]

[b]Mike Preston talked about these two in the Sun.[/b]
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