Can The Ravens Beat The Colts This Year?

[20ravens52]

I think we will do it this year. (If fairly healthy) We have just made many more strides to better our team this year. We are on the way to becoming a Dominant franchise. Frank

I mean they're good but were going to be better. Harrison is gone, Sanders can hardly stay on the field. Reggie Wanye is not the flashiest number 1 reciever. (Don't get me wrong he has skills) but without an equally as good or better Harrison it makes it a little easier to defend.

[b]We will do it this year.[/b]

[Ed_Reed20]

[quote name='20ravens52' post='195025' date='May 25 2009, 06:27 PM']I think we will do it this year. (If fairly healthy) We have just made many more strides to better our team this year. We are on the way to becoming a Dominant franchise. Frank

I mean they're good but were going to be better. Harrison is gone, Sanders can hardly stay on the field. Reggie Wanye is not the flashiest number 1 reciever. (Don't get me wrong he has skills) but without an equally as good or better Harrison it makes it a little easier to defend.

[b]We will do it this year.[/b][/quote]

I agree. But I think Sanders will be healthy this year. Ever since he came in the league, he's had a weird pattern of staying healthy one year and getting injured the next. Look it up.

As for Wayne he may not be flashy but when he's rolling, he can embarrass any corner in the league. I hope Foxworth/Washington are up to the task.

[darklight1216]

As pessimistic as it sounds: I don't think we'll do it this year.

Indy may have some vulnerable points, and we may have upgraded, but personally I think that we will just be closer (that is actually able to score) but it won't get us the win.

[ROH522155]

[quote name='darklight1216' post='195004' date='May 25 2009, 03:36 PM']Did you purchase this Manning jersey? O.o[/quote]

no i wear hers

[rastaman831226]

[quote name='Alexir' post='194950' date='May 25 2009, 12:48 PM']For some reason we can't beat Peyton Manning. Don't give too much credit to Dungy, the reason we cant beat them is because of the field general Peyton[/quote]

If you can recall the games, the Colts has us beat on both sides of the ball. They played like they had our playbook in their back pockets. That comes from good coaching, so give credit where credit is due. Dungy let Manning be Manning while making his supposed poor defense dictate what we were able or not able to do. The trick for Harbaugh this year is to come up with the right game plan to defeat the Colts just as it had been for Dungy to come up with the right formula to defeat the Ravens the last couple of seasons.

[sporaven]

no

[BuckWilds]

[quote name='ravensorioleshoyas522155' post='194987' date='May 25 2009, 04:12 PM']every year me and this girl do this thing where if the colts win i wear a manning jersey and if the ravens win she wears a Ray Lewis jersey and frankly, Im tired of wearin that jersey!![/quote]

You need to change the bet. Like if the Colts win, you have to take her to dinner, and if the Ravens win, she has to take you to dinner. Win-win.

[jezzy]

i think we def can beat them this year mainly cuz harrison can't give c-mac nomore double moves and our qb is way better then any qb we had when we faced them so this year is the year. mainly why we lose i think we try to out smart peyton too much instead of just playing our style of defense but i think that will change this year.

[ROH522155]

[quote name='Zhamtao' post='195054' date='May 25 2009, 08:12 PM']You need to change the bet. Like if the Colts win, you have to take her to dinner, and if the Ravens win, she has to take you to dinner. Win-win.[/quote]
yea..........ahhhh!!! 666!!

[JEEPercreepermd]

wouldn't it be nice to beat the colts AND the steelers? I agree with a previous statement, Our slow power running game was always negated by the Colt's speed on defense. The Ravens have never been able to sustain drives against the colts. You guys have it nailed. Keep peyton off the field, and score touchdowns instead of field goals. We'll see how Harbaugh,Cameron,and Mattison call the game

[Geno the booter]

now nobody get mad at me when I say this..or immediately contradict me...but I think it goes beyond just the Colts. We couldn't beat the Colts, Giants, Steelers, and Titans (during the season). Does anyone see the pattern in this? There all good teams...sure we manhandled the Eagles, but who can you tell me that we killed....who was half decent? We get destroyed by good teams and when it comes down to the wire, that's what matters. We kill the bengals and brownies...but do you see them in the playoffs? How can we expect to go to the Superbowl or let alone the playoffs if we can't beat quality teams? I believe in the past we almost got intimidated and backed off.
(btw don't say we almost won a few games because..almost and winning isn't the same thing lol)

However, I see a change this year with all our newly added, blue collar players. I think with Harbaugh everything will change and we won't be losing on prime time games [(night games) Sunday night, Monday and Thursday], badweather, and relying on referees to decide the final outcome of a game. How come in the past whenever we played in the snow/rain, primetime (night) we usually lost? I put the blame on former head coach, Brian.

Without Big Mac (lol) I don't see Foxworth or Washington getting burned and will be able to keep it to a low scoring game. Flacco will be much more mature and know the game better on a NFL level and gun the ball to D-Will (or for kicks should I say Anquan) even when he has Sanders lurking behind him . This is the year...we will not only be able to beat the Colts, but also quality teams such as the Steelers, Vikings,Giants, Patriots, Titans and anyone else who comes in our way during our Superbowl run.

And out of curiousty...does anyone remember in the past when the Patriots got in trouble for filming other teams? Well could it be possible (the colts) film us and watch all of our plays...or even intercept the radio signals that Cam Cameron sends to Flacco (to his helmet) and know what were going to do everytime? I don't see why its not possibly for them to do that.

If that is the case...we have home field advantage this year, so I guess we won't have to worry about anyone filming our practices and what not.

[MagicianCamille]

[quote name='Geno the booter' post='195196' date='May 26 2009, 03:11 PM']now nobody get mad at me when I say this..or immediately contradict me...but I think it goes beyond just the Colts. We couldn't beat the Colts, Giants, Steelers, and Titans (during the season). Does anyone see the pattern in this? There all good teams...sure we manhandled the Eagles, but who can you tell me that we killed....who was half decent? We get destroyed by good teams and when it comes down to the wire, that's what matters. We kill the bengals and brownies...but do you see them in the playoffs? How can we expect to go to the Superbowl or let alone the playoffs if we can't beat quality teams? I believe in the past we almost got intimidated and backed off.
(btw don't say we almost won a few games because..almost and winning isn't the same thing lol)[/quote]

You're absolutely correct, and I've said that on this forum a few times myself.

Last year's Ravens really showed they got past that though by defeating the Dolphins and Titans in their home stadiums in the playoffs, and making it a game that came down to the wire with the Steelers every single time they played them.

Man there's a team we need to be more worried about beating...we went 0-3 against them last year. That really hurt our record in the rivalry.

[jezzy]

[quote name='Geno the booter' post='195196' date='May 26 2009, 03:11 PM']now nobody get mad at me when I say this..or immediately contradict me...but I think it goes beyond just the Colts. We couldn't beat the Colts, Giants, Steelers, and Titans (during the season). Does anyone see the pattern in this? There all good teams...sure we manhandled the Eagles, but who can you tell me that we killed....who was half decent? We get destroyed by good teams and when it comes down to the wire, that's what matters. We kill the bengals and brownies...but do you see them in the playoffs? How can we expect to go to the Superbowl or let alone the playoffs if we can't beat quality teams? I believe in the past we almost got intimidated and backed off.
(btw don't say we almost won a few games because..almost and winning isn't the same thing lol)

However, I see a change this year with all our newly added, blue collar players. I think with Harbaugh everything will change and we won't be losing on prime time games [(night games) Sunday night, Monday and Thursday], badweather, and relying on referees to decide the final outcome of a game. How come in the past whenever we played in the snow/rain, primetime (night) we usually lost? I put the blame on former head coach, Brian.

Without Big Mac (lol) I don't see Foxworth or Washington getting burned and will be able to keep it to a low scoring game. Flacco will be much more mature and know the game better on a NFL level and gun the ball to D-Will (or for kicks should I say Anquan) even when he has Sanders lurking behind him . This is the year...we will not only be able to beat the Colts, but also quality teams such as the Steelers, Vikings,Giants, Patriots, Titans and anyone else who comes in our way during our Superbowl run.

And out of curiousty...does anyone remember in the past when the Patriots got in trouble for filming other teams? Well could it be possible (the colts) film us and watch all of our plays...or even intercept the radio signals that Cam Cameron sends to Flacco (to his helmet) and know what were going to do everytime? I don't see why its not possibly for them to do that.

If that is the case...we have home field advantage this year, so I guess we won't have to worry about anyone filming our practices and what not.[/quote]
when we played agianst those teams you say are good we should of won three out of the four and agianst the titans they called the b/s roughing the passer on suggs that cost us the game. then the two games agianst the steelers we should of won both of them if jj didnt get that penalty and big ben didnt get lucky .so were def good enough to win agianst the better teams we just need to focus on the little things so we dont beat our selfs and we can be considered one of the top teams in the nfl.

[MagicianCamille]

[quote name='jezzy' post='195224' date='May 26 2009, 05:28 PM']when we played agianst those teams you say are good we should of won three out of the four and agianst the titans they called the b/s roughing the passer on suggs that cost us the game. then the two games agianst the steelers we should of won both of them if jj didnt get that penalty and big ben didnt get lucky .so were def good enough to win agianst the better teams we just need to focus on the little things so we dont beat our selfs and we can be considered one of the top teams in the nfl.[/quote]

Really good teams don't put themselves in situations where a game can be lost on a single call.

[ROH522155]

[quote name='Geno the booter' post='195196' date='May 26 2009, 03:11 PM']I believe in the past we almost got intimidated and backed off.[/quote]

WOW! Did you just say the BALTIMORE RAVENS got intimidated. Thats ridiculous. We do the intimidating around here. I never wanna see/hear this out of a Ravens fan.

[#1 D]

[quote name='MagicianCamille' post='195227' date='May 26 2009, 06:47 PM']Really good teams don't put themselves in situations where a [b]game can be lost on a single call.[/b][/quote]
you mean heartbreaking losses to other teams? yea i'm sure many superbowl teams have games in their SB-winning season that they've lost because of a mistake that they may have made. that doesn't make them not a "really good team."

[darklight1216]

[quote name='MagicianCamille' post='195227' date='May 26 2009, 06:47 PM']Really good teams don't put themselves in situations where a game can be lost on a single call.[/quote]
You're right, really good teams don't just accept a win, they have to outscore each and every opponent by at least 20 points to be worthy of the title "good." In fact a really good team wouldn't be beaten by anyone, they would go 19-0 every year. I guess there's no hope for us, we'll never be good no matter how many Superbowls we win.

[Geno the booter]

[quote name='MagicianCamille' post='195227' date='May 26 2009, 06:47 PM']Really good teams don't put themselves in situations where a game can be lost on a single call.[/quote]

YEs, exactly what I'm saying!!!! I think you might be the only guy right now who isn't wearing your purple shades. LOL...well now I'm going to go back and put my g-lasses on and say

we gonna go 20-0 next season ! Kazzah!

Anyways...why bring the game down to the wire. Sure its interesting as hell when it gets that close, but if you outscore your opponent you never have to worry about a call. You can't blame a game on refs. That is just an excuse.

[#1 D]

[quote name='Geno the booter' post='195256' date='May 26 2009, 08:11 PM']YEs, exactly what I'm saying!!!! I think you might be the only guy right now who isn't wearing your purple shades. LOL...well now I'm going to go back and put my g-lasses on and say

we gonna go 20-0 next season ! Kazzah!

Anyways...why bring the game down to the wire. Sure its interesting as hell when it gets that close, but if you outscore your opponent you never have to worry about a call. You can't blame a game on refs. That is just an excuse.[/quote]

ok, from what i see your doing 1 of 2 things....

1. sarcasm where i cant tell ur putting

2. being serious. seriously? wow. then ur willing to tell me that the steelers are not a very good football team? lets see...super bowl winners, and twice in the regular season when they've played the ravens, they've never managed to blow us out. yet they still win the super bowl. and yet, in the superbowl, they played the cardinals and won from behind, which they have done the whole season. not much blowing-out there, but still a very good team.

(edit: sorry for giving a bit too much love for the steelers! they don't deserve it! )

[ROH522155]

[quote name='Geno the booter' post='195256' date='May 26 2009, 07:11 PM']YEs, exactly what I'm saying!!!! I think you might be the only guy right now who isn't wearing your purple shades. LOL...well now I'm going to go back and put my g-lasses on and say

we gonna go 20-0 next season ! Kazzah!

Anyways...why bring the game down to the wire. Sure its interesting as hell when it gets that close, but if you outscore your opponent you never have to worry about a call. You can't blame a game on refs. That is just an excuse.[/quote]

Haha 20-0??? That would mean 3 teams in the AFC go 16-0, we get the 3 seed and win 4 playoff games to become super bowl champs! haha

[MagicianCamille]

I didn't mean it so concretely, I just meant in general...if you're blaming 5-6 losses a year on "one bad call" in each game...it's more than likely you got outplayed a few times(which we did).

I knew I should have thrown the word "continuously" in my previous post. I had it in there and deleted it figuring "Eh they know what I mean".

[rastaman831226]

Hey fellas, slow down and lighten up. Not an excuse but in reality, last season we had a rookie head coach, a rookie QB, a whole new O system with a young revamped O line and that was still good enough to lay major wood to the medias' best NFL division (the NFC East) and the better AFC teams, but fell short against the AFC elite and the previous years' SB champ. Nonetheless, this team made it to the AFC title game despite having to play 19 games in a row with 19 players on IR. In anybody's book, that's a miraculous showing. And that's not the end, the Ravens are a work in progress with more depth at key positions, another year learning magic Cam Cameron's playbook, another year for a talented O line to jell and another year for a rapidly maturing QB. Yeah, I'm gonna be bold and say....I smell dynasty. There..I said it and I refuse to take it back. I'm confident enough to say I can easily look forward to the day when Indianapolis, New York, and Pittsburgh will be a humorous afterthought. GO RAVENS!!!!!

[jfc13]

[quote name='MagicianCamille' post='195227' date='May 26 2009, 06:47 PM']Really good teams don't put themselves in situations where a game can be lost on a single call.[/quote]


[quote name='MagicianCamille' post='195345' date='May 27 2009, 12:49 AM']I didn't mean it so concretely, I just meant in general...if you're blaming 5-6 losses a year on "one bad call" in each game...it's more than likely you got outplayed a few times(which we did).

I knew I should have thrown the word "continuously" in my previous post. I had it in there and deleted it figuring "Eh they know what I mean".[/quote]

I understood what you meant and I agree. Yeah, good teams can and do lose and/or win games on a single call, but when you read posts that show how we could have won 5 or 6 more games but for one call, it just sounds like excuses - especially when we know there are fans from other teams out there saying the same thing - and including a game they lost against us that [i]they[/i] could have won but for one call. You're not counted in the elite until you are actually winning those games by NOT putting yourself in the position to lose 5 games because of a referree's call in each.

All of this doesn't mean that we [i]can't[/i] win - it just means we have to become the type of team that puts themselves on the winning side of "that one call" - and I think we can do that.

[lowrider]

[quote name='Geno the booter' post='195196' date='May 26 2009, 04:11 PM']now nobody get mad at me when I say this..or immediately contradict me...but I think it goes beyond just the Colts. We couldn't beat the Colts, Giants, Steelers, and Titans (during the season). Does anyone see the pattern in this? There all good teams...sure we manhandled the Eagles, but who can you tell me that we killed....who was half decent? We get destroyed by good teams and when it comes down to the wire, that's what matters. We kill the bengals and brownies...but do you see them in the playoffs? How can we expect to go to the Superbowl or let alone the playoffs if we can't beat quality teams? I believe in the past we almost got intimidated and backed off.
(btw don't say we almost won a few games because..almost and winning isn't the same thing lol)[/quote]
We didnt get destroyed by the good teams. Colts and giants we did. But steelers and Titans we were in those games till the end. I wouldnt say that we were incapable of beating the good teams. I just think our offense wasnt mature enough to beat them. Realistically if Flacco doesnt throw three picks against the Titans in the regular season and Steelers in the playoffs we win both of those games. I dont think that is going to happen this year.

[ROH522155]

[quote name='rastaman831226' post='195379' date='May 27 2009, 02:30 AM']Hey fellas, slow down and lighten up. Not an excuse but in reality, last season we had a rookie head coach, a rookie QB, a whole new O system with a young revamped O line and that was still good enough to lay major wood to the medias' best NFL division (the NFC East) and the better AFC teams, but fell short against the AFC elite and the previous years' SB champ. Nonetheless, this team made it to the AFC title game despite having to play 19 games in a row with 19 players on IR. In anybody's book, that's a miraculous showing. And that's not the end, the Ravens are a work in progress with more depth at key positions, another year learning magic Cam Cameron's playbook, another year for a talented O line to jell and another year for a rapidly maturing QB. Yeah, I'm gonna be bold and say....I smell dynasty. There..I said it and I refuse to take it back. I'm confident enough to say I can easily look forward to the day when Indianapolis, New York, and Pittsburgh will be a humorous afterthought. GO RAVENS!!!!![/quote]
Great post

[kash96ravenstotalfan]

Today on ESPN they reported that Peyton was not happy with the changes in the Offensive coaching positions. They reported that Peyton likes continuity and that is not happening for him this year. Maybe that is a weakness that Peyton needs to ovecome this year. That would be to our advantage. Hope so

[Ravensfan23]

[quote name='rastaman831226' post='195379' date='May 27 2009, 03:30 AM']Hey fellas, slow down and lighten up. Not an excuse but in reality, last season we had a rookie head coach, a rookie QB, a whole new O system with a young revamped O line and that was still good enough to lay major wood to the medias' best NFL division (the NFC East) and the better AFC teams, but fell short against the AFC elite and the previous years' SB champ. Nonetheless, this team made it to the AFC title game despite having to play 19 games in a row with 19 players on IR. In anybody's book, that's a miraculous showing. And that's not the end, the Ravens are a work in progress with more depth at key positions, another year learning magic Cam Cameron's playbook, another year for a talented O line to jell and another year for a rapidly maturing QB. Yeah, I'm gonna be bold and say....I smell dynasty. There..I said it and I refuse to take it back. I'm confident enough to say I can easily look forward to the day when Indianapolis, New York, and Pittsburgh will be a humorous afterthought. GO RAVENS!!!!![/quote]

Great post.

I don't think many people realize just how young and inexperience the Ravens were last season. and just to add to what u already said, we had a LT tackle that has only played football for about 5 years total. He had to fill in for a sure fire HOFer, our Oline was so young that most of those guys were in elementary school when Ray Lewis was drafted, and probably didn't know what a football was when Stover attempted his first NFL Field Goal.

We had a rookie QB, that at this time last year his claim to fame was that he played against Navy and Towson. We had a FB that had to step up and carry the load at RB. We had 2 rookie safeties that had to step up because we had our starting safety damn near break his neck.

We had a All Pro safety that almost considered ending his career in training camp. We lost one of our best Defense Line before the season even started. We had to deal with the retirement of 2 key players. JO & Mac 9

Our starting offense didn't play together until the last game of the preseason. We had a WR playing with one arm. A LT holding off pass rushers with only one arm. A RG that was hurt for the season, the rookie QB we trying to give time to develop was forced into the starting lineup in week 3 of the preseason.

This team had to watch OJ fight for his life every single day. Not just watch him fight for a job or a position, but for his LIFE.

The Ravens overcame so much last season and i don't think we all take the time to appreciate that. We sometimes just take good play for granted. Oh we made it to the AFC Championship last season, we were so great, but just take the time to think about what this team had to over come to get to the AFC Championship, and see if u value last season any more.

Now with all that said, last year was last year. The Ravens have to come out and build on what they accomplished last season. The only way to get where we truely want to be is to be good consistently year in and year out.

[DocMartin]

Hey, when we talk about Colts, it's just plain and simple. We gotta put pressure on Manning.
There are only 2 teams that give Colts fits, and that would be Patriots and Chargers. They blitz and
pressure him all game long, and they also have very good cornerbacks. Besides both teams can
put up 30 points on Colts defense, which the Ravens for some unknown reason to me, have problem to
do so. The only way we could stand the chance of beating the Colts is, if we have steady pass rushers, coming
from both sides.
I was at the game last time we played Colts at M&T, in the rain, which didn't bother Payton a bit, plus our defensive ends
were not even close to him and it was 35-7 Colts at halftime. So, it was pretty painfull to watch, especially when
Kyle Boller couldn't complete the pass, I think Colts pulled Manning out in 4th quarter, so he wouldn't get hurt, we pulled Kyle Boller
and put Troy Smith in, just to get some offense going, and game ended 42-14 I think it was. We were on the way home by then.
With Flacco now, we might score more points, but still we have to contain Manning from the line, if we can keep him
from scoring 24-25 points, we can beat them.
But if you ask me, I would rather if we beat Steelers twice, than Colts once, I hope we can all agree on that.

[WACKO4FLACC0]

100% yes because even Peyton is saying that the team has bad communication they have to many new coaches and no Marvin this year. you can even quote me on this

[darklight1216]

[quote name='DocMartin' post='195982' date='May 30 2009, 12:47 AM']Hey, when we talk about Colts, it's just plain and simple. We gotta put pressure on Manning.
There are only 2 teams that give Colts fits, and that would be Patriots and Chargers. They blitz and
pressure him all game long, and they also have very good cornerbacks. [b]Besides both teams can
put up 30 points on Colts defense, which the Ravens for some unknown reason to me, have problem to
do so.[/b] The only way we could stand the chance of beating the Colts is, if we have steady pass rushers, coming
from both sides.[/quote]
How often do the Ravens put up 30 points in any game? Last year there were several times, but obviously there were a few changes in 08.