Who Do You Want To Win?(ilb Battle)

[Ed_Reed20]

ESPN has Gooden beating out McClain because he's "more physical". What do you guy think?

[darklight1216]

I want the best player to win. Right now, all signs point to Gooden so that is who I want to start.

[MKdave]

[quote name='Ed_Reed20' post='194030' date='May 20 2009, 07:36 PM']ESPN has Gooden beating out McClain because he's "more physical". What do you guy think?[/quote]

Having seen alot more of McClain than Gooden, Gooden must be pretty damn physical if he's more so than McClain. Good to hear.

As for who I would prefer to win the job, it's Gooden right now.
I think McClain offers more at the outside linebacker position. That seems where he's natural to me.

[BmoreLAT52]

Gooden cause McClain seems like a better OLB

[WACKO4FLACC0]

[quote name='Ed_Reed20' post='194030' date='May 20 2009, 01:36 PM']ESPN has Gooden beating out McClain because he's "more physical". What do you guy think?[/quote]
Well Gooden is suppose to be the next "Ray Lewis" and have been saving him for a time like this I think McClain is not as good as everyone thinks

[reediddy]

yeah i agree with all of you, Gooden should get the nod at starting ILB beside Ray Lew, and McClain can be used to spell Jarret Johnson/Terrell Suggs. I hope Antwan Barnes steps up this year too, along with Prescott Burgess

[52Kia Kaha92]

whoever is better for the job, thats all that matters
I would like Gooden though as mcClain is a terror rushing the passer so the more positons he knows the better as we can blitz him from anywhere

McClain and Gooden inside for a long time though IMO

[ZIBBY28]

its all about "The U" - Gooden

[jezzy]

gooden will win cause hes just got better skills but it should be a good competition but mcclain needs a little more time to get better with his fundamentals but its good 2 have both of them on our squad cuz in time they will both be beast.

[Troy SmiTH Xx]

Whoever can get to and knock out Ben Rothelisberger, Carson Palmer and Brady Quinn the fastest is the guy I want.

[RavensIQ]

I want Gooden to win bcuz he'll be the better overall ILB. However, I would like to see McClain get smore reps at OLB this year. His athleticism coming off the edge is so dangerous, especially in a 3-4, that I think it would be well worth it on 3rd down situations.

I was reading one of Tony Lombardi's blogs at [url="http://ravens24x7.com"]ravens24x7.com[/url] and according to him, Tavaras Gooden was the fastest LB the Ravens have ever had in franchise history. That's saying something right there, bcuz back in the day, Ray was a lightening strike on the field. But regardless if he's the "fastest ever", he's still fast as hell, and that kind of speed + power, running sideline to sideline, is gonna make our defense even deadlier! He's going to give more versatility w/the Blitz, and that's going to be exciting to watch bcuz Speed w/quick reaction = more sacks from the LB position.

I'd also like to see more 4-3 looks with Pryce & Suggs/Kuger on the ends, Ngata & Gregg as the DTs, and Ray, Gooden, Johnson/McClain as the LBs.

[Canes21]

T-Good is a monster

[purple52-92-20pain]

[quote name='RavensIQ' post='194073' date='May 20 2009, 04:33 PM']I want Gooden to win bcuz he'll be the better overall ILB. However, I would like to see McClain get smore reps at OLB this year. His athleticism coming off the edge is so dangerous, especially in a 3-4, that I think it would be well worth it on 3rd down situations.

I was reading one of Tony Lombardi's blogs at [url="http://ravens24x7.com"]ravens24x7.com[/url] and according to him, Tavaras Gooden was the fastest LB the Ravens have ever had in franchise history. That's saying something right there, bcuz back in the day, Ray was a lightening strike on the field. But regardless if he's the "fastest ever", he's still fast as hell, and that kind of speed + power, running sideline to sideline, is gonna make our defense even deadlier! He's going to give more versatility w/the Blitz, and that's going to be exciting to watch bcuz Speed w/quick reaction = more sacks from the LB position.

I'd also like to see more 4-3 looks with Pryce & Suggs/Kuger on the ends, Ngata & Gregg as the DTs, and Ray, Gooden, Johnson/McClain as the LBs.[/quote]

JESUS CHRIST he must be ******in fast. As a rookie ray ray ran a 4.3!!!!!!!

[Ravnet]

I agree with Dave; either ESPN really doesn't know anything about McClain, or Gooden is a monster.

[slugz1]

[quote name='purple52-92-20pain' post='194085' date='May 20 2009, 05:26 PM']JESUS CHRIST he must be ******in fast. As a rookie ray ray ran a 4.3!!!!!!![/quote]
for real i never read that

[BmoreLAT52]

[quote name='purple52-92-20pain' post='194085' date='May 20 2009, 05:26 PM']JESUS CHRIST he must be ******in fast. As a rookie ray ray ran a 4.3!!!!!!![/quote]

i have to see that to believe it. 4.3? He wouldve been a running back or something. the fastest rb's/recievers run 4.2

[Marc2k6]

I want the LB the shows he is the man in this years training camp to win the spot. I do not care what college you are from and/or what you did in college. I do not care if you won the Heisman as a LB. (LMAO) I both develop in to great LB's.

[#1 D]

[quote name='BmoreLAT52' post='194118' date='May 20 2009, 06:32 PM']i have to see that to believe it. 4.3? He wouldve been a running back or something. the fastest rb's/recievers run 4.2[/quote]

Ray lewis is just around the 4.5 range, which is still MAD fast for a linebacker...especially when you consider he is faster than even some of the wideouts that come from this years' draft.

[kash96ravenstotalfan]

I'm confident that the Ravens will pick the best player to start at ILB. Having said that, I personally think that T Good will get the start. Guess we just have to wait and see

[PurpleReign#1D]

[quote name='WACKO4FLACC0' post='194041' date='May 20 2009, 03:09 PM']Well Gooden is suppose to be the next "Ray Lewis" and have been saving him for a time like this I think McClain is not as good as everyone thinks[/quote]


mcclain was an unknown ravens fans didnt know who he was when he made plays .... him breakin threw to get 2 safeties was just being plugged into a great system... when he stepped onto the feild do you think an offensive lineman was thinlin of blockin him or lewis ngata suggs n such??? when ed reed was a rookie he flew past Olines n blocked punts n got sacks... i dont think hes sacked a QB in the past two seasons... i really dont think mcclain willl start inside... he is a role player with potential to grow into a starter

good bye bart scott... everyone welcome tavaris "the new mad backer" goooden to the startin D

[lowrider]

Gooden is going to get the position but McClain is going to get playing time. I'm excited to see both grow and mature.

[slugz1]

[quote name='PurpleReign#1D' post='194142' date='May 20 2009, 08:32 PM']mcclain was an unknown ravens fans didnt know who he was when he made plays .... him breakin threw to get 2 safeties was just being plugged into a great system... when he stepped onto the feild do you think an offensive lineman was thinlin of blockin him or lewis ngata suggs n such??? when ed reed was a rookie he flew past Olines n blocked punts n got sacks... i dont think hes sacked a QB in the past two seasons... i really dont think mcclain willl start inside... he is a role player with potential to grow into a starter

good bye bart scott... everyone welcome tavaris "the new mad backer" goooden to the startin D[/quote]
How about To-Good

[20ravens52]

[quote name='#1 D' post='194125' date='May 20 2009, 06:50 PM']Ray lewis is just around the 4.5 range, which is still MAD fast for a linebacker...especially when you consider he is faster than even some of the wideouts that come from this years' draft.[/quote]

There is no way Ray Lewis can run a 4.5 now.

It'd probably be around the 4.7-4.8 range.

[MKdave]

[quote name='20ravens52' post='194174' date='May 21 2009, 05:50 AM']There is no way Ray Lewis can run a 4.5 now.

It'd probably be around the 4.7-4.8 range.[/quote]

...If not slower.

[MKdave]

[quote name='PurpleReign#1D' post='194142' date='May 21 2009, 01:32 AM']I dont think [Ed Reed]s sacked a QB in the past two seasons...[/quote]

Actually he sacked Ben Roethlisberger last year and blew up Derek Anderson the year before that (if I remember correctly, the snap was fumbled and then Ed got him after he recovered. It didn't count as a sack but it's exactly the same play in terms of yardage, which is all that really counts)

[Reddawn36]

[quote name='BmoreLAT52' post='194118' date='May 20 2009, 06:32 PM']i have to see that to believe it. 4.3? He wouldve been a running back or something. the fastest rb's/recievers run 4.2[/quote]

well he did used to be a RB, either in high school or college, i think it was H.S. i'm just saying (we are talking about ray lou right?)

[slugz1]

[quote name='20ravens52' post='194174' date='May 21 2009, 12:50 AM']There is no way Ray Lewis can run a 4.5 now.

It'd probably be around the 4.7-4.8 range.[/quote]
40 doesnt matter with ray hes good.

[20ravens52]

[quote name='slugz1' post='194221' date='May 21 2009, 01:18 PM']40 doesnt matter with ray hes good.[/quote]

...Didn't say it mattered. Ok it does alittle. It sucks he has to get old and fragile

[Twoo]

I'm 99% positive ray ran a 4.54 at the combine and a 4.6 out of high school.

[baltiMORE RAVENS]

Hahaha Ray Lewis has never been able to run a 4.3. If you are going to make up lies, at least make them reasonable so you have a chance of people actually believing you. Oh and by the way, Yamon Figurs did 32 reps on the bench press at the combine. He has sneaky strength.