Anyone Still Upset At Picking Oher?

[ravensfan160]

Because otherwise we'd be looking at Adam Terry starting and absolutely no depth at the position. Ozzie does it again.

[JEEPercreepermd]

I don't think Anderson would have retired if the Ravens didn't pick Oher. Now, I agree with the pick %100. I fully belive that if you can control the line of scrimmage on offense and defense, you are going to win MOST games. If Oher pans out, the ravens could have one of the best O-lines in football, a great way to close to gap on pittsburgh. Anyway, Anderson was probably just thinking he's too old to be a 2nd string player,idk...whatever his reasoning he did a fine job for us

[TXRaven]

was not upset in the first place.

[justifythegame]

[quote name='ravensfan160' post='192507' date='May 14 2009, 09:39 AM']Because otherwise we'd be looking at Adam Terry starting and absolutely no depth at the position. Ozzie does it again.[/quote]
If that happened, Terry would get manhandled and thrown around like a ragged doll, then fall on the ground holding his leg with another injury, and joe flacco would suffer countless injuries like the ones that caused steve mcnair to retire, and ruined boller's career - who was also plagued by injuries, only completing 1 full season, and the last season he ended up on IR. Its not that Boller didn't have the talent, but Boller was a huge project player. He needed serious pass protection and good coaching, niether of which he had. And we would risk the same scenario with Flacco if we didn't draft Oher. Flaccos season last year is only as good as Boller's best season, Flacco still needs to develop, and Terry can't even block well at TE. This is ozzie learning from his mistakes.

People complain that ozzie didn't help the offense, but that is exactly what he did. We already have a first round pick WR and pro bowl caliber WR. We dont need a superstar because we live by our D and running game, what is important is to keep our QB healthy and make sure he has time to actually look down the field to convert on 3rd downs.

[justifythegame]

[quote name='ravensfan160' post='192507' date='May 14 2009, 09:39 AM']Because otherwise we'd be looking at Adam Terry starting and absolutely no depth at the position. Ozzie does it again.[/quote]
If that happened, Terry would get manhandled and thrown around like a ragged doll, then fall on the ground holding his leg with another injury, and joe flacco would suffer countless injuries like the ones that caused steve mcnair to retire, and ruined boller's career - who was also plagued by injuries, only completing 1 full season, and the last season he ended up on IR. Its not that Boller didn't have the talent, but Boller was a huge project player. He needed serious pass protection and good coaching, niether of which he had. And we would risk the same scenario with Flacco if we didn't draft Oher. Flaccos season last year is only as good as Boller's best season, Flacco still needs to develop, and Terry can't even block well at TE. This is ozzie learning from his mistakes.

People complain that ozzie didn't help the offense, but that is exactly what he did. We already have a first round pick WR and pro bowl WR. We dont need a superstar because we live by our D and running game, what is important is to keep our QB healthy and make sure he has time to actually look down the field to convert on 3rd downs.

[ravensfan160]

[quote name='justifythegame' post='192512' date='May 14 2009, 10:18 AM']If that happened, Terry would get manhandled and thrown around like a ragged doll, then fall on the ground holding his leg with another injury, and joe flacco would suffer countless injuries like the ones that caused steve mcnair to retire, and ruined boller's career - who was also plagued by injuries, only completing 1 full season, and the last season he ended up on IR. Its not that Boller didn't have the talent, but Boller was a huge project player. He needed serious pass protection and good coaching, niether of which he had. And we would risk the same scenario with Flacco if we didn't draft Oher. Flaccos season last year is only as good as Boller's best season, Flacco still needs to develop, and Terry can't even block well at TE. This is ozzie learning from his mistakes.

People complain that ozzie didn't help the offense, but that is exactly what he did. We already have a first round pick WR and pro bowl caliber WR. We dont need a superstar because we live by our D and running game, what is important is to keep our QB healthy and make sure he has time to actually look down the field to convert on 3rd downs.[/quote]
Exactly my thoughts. Jason Brown said basically that exact thing about Boller after he signed with the Rams. Boller never got the protection, especially early, and he got gunshy. It all starts with protection and if you have that than everything else will fall into place.

[Mahatma_Sloth]

Oher must be something special to put big willie in the old folks home early

[BmoreRav]

IMO if you have a solid defence across the board like we do and a solid o-line with a QB with huge potential and good depth at RB, you have what you need to win a lot of football games regardless if your wr corps is average!!

A "superstar" WR would be nice but it's not a desperate need as some people make out. I'm more than happy with our squad!!

[Jaydoog]

I was never upset......... just mad they didn't pick a WR period

[JEEPercreepermd]

Let's not forget that most of the leagues "elite" wr's were on teams last year that didn't make the playoffs. Our guys got us there though, I'll agree that we need another guy to step up but when looking back at last year, I haven't seen a Ravens QB throw that many deep passes and td's since Testaverde was here. With a solid RT now, we can get Heap back into the passing game. That should help Flacco with figuring out cover 2 defenses, and also give mason,clayton and whoever else more room to breathe out there. Remember, we get synipnewski (however you spell his name) back, I think he would be primarily the guy to come in on max protect situations anyway, instead of heap.

[Canes21]

i always liked this pick. still dont like the kruger one tho

[jezzy]

i dont think were mad about the oher pick we all wanted a wr and there were chances to get a good wr after that pick so we just wanted some offense players at skill positions that could help our qb thats all

[Marc2k6]

I was never upset! I'm glad we did not pick a WR, they take to long to develop.

[ravensfan160]

[quote name='jezzy' post='192529' date='May 14 2009, 12:06 PM']i dont think were mad about the oher pick we all wanted a wr and there were chances to get a good wr after that pick so we just wanted some offense players at skill positions that could help our qb thats all[/quote]
I agree. I don't think people were angry we picked Oher. Most people realize how talented he is and what a great value he was at that spot but people were so set on drafting a WR they were dissapointed. I can certainly understand that. Even if Oher becomes a Pro Bowl tackle, even I will be frustrated if Kenny Britt and/or Hakeen Nicks become true #1 receivers for the sole reason we've never had one (no offense Mason) but we have had Ogden and now Gaither.

[McBurks]

I wasactually hoping to get a Lineman and was suprised when we moved up and got him while Oher fell. Flacco to Heap 2009!

[ravensfan160]

[quote name='Simba' post='192534' date='May 14 2009, 12:26 PM']I wasactually hoping to get a Lineman and was suprised when we moved up and got him while Oher fell. [b]Flacco to Heap 2009![/b][/quote]
I certainly hope so. Heeeeeeeeeeap!

[bgusc]

I agreed with it then and I still agree with it now.

The only draft pick I have disagreed with on day one for as long as I've been a Raven fan (since '99) was Kyle Boller. I knew from day one he was garbage.

[Guest FLACCO5]

[quote name='Canes21' post='192527' date='May 14 2009, 11:33 AM']i always liked this pick. still dont like the kruger one tho[/quote]



HOW DO YOU NOT LIKE PAUL KRUGER????????

[ravensfan160]

[quote name='FLACCO5' post='192539' date='May 14 2009, 12:40 PM']HOW DO YOU NOT LIKE PAUL KRUGER????????[/quote]
I really like Kruger. Heck just look at his name. How sweet is that. haha. I think he's going to be like Suggs was his rookie year, a situational pass rusher. He will be a much better compliment to Suggs in that regard than Jarret Johnson. Johnson's a solid linebacker but his strength is clearly run support. Our pass rush hasn't been the same sine Adalus Thomas left and Kruger should bring it back to life a bit.

[McBurks]

Heap in the passing game will be Flacco's 2nd best friend.

[darklight1216]

I was never upset about them picking Oher. The longer Flacco has to throw the ball, the better the results will be. Also wide receivers have a high failure rating; who knows what we might have gotten? I liked the Kruger pick as well.

[Reddawn36]

[quote name='darklight1216' post='192549' date='May 14 2009, 01:20 PM']I was never upset about them picking Oher. The longer Flacco has to throw the ball, the better the results will be. Also wide receivers have a high failure rating; who knows what we might have gotten? I liked the Kruger pick as well.[/quote]

our first two picks were very good picks... with a name like krueger on defense, how could it be a bad pick........ hell we already the most feared D of this decade....... now we are entering peoples dreams

[darklight1216]

[quote name='Reddawn36' post='192553' date='May 14 2009, 01:40 PM']our first two picks were very good picks... with a name like krueger on defense, how could it be a bad pick........ we already the most feared D of this decade....... now we are entering peoples dreams [/quote]
Lol so true.

Hey speaking of Oher, did they ever announce the winner(s) of that draft pick contest?

[edreedfromtheu]

mad at picking oher? no. there really wasn't anything else to pick.

What i'm mad about it picking ray rice in the 2nd round last year, instead of one of the many talented corners in a corner heavy draft, when that was one of our two weakest positions. oh, not to mention our running back position was so deep, we had to cut capable backups to make room for rice, and they weren't costing as much as a 2nd round pick does these days.

[lowrider]

Oher was a terrible pick. It made no sense. Ozzie Newsome should get fired. I hate the ravens. They are so stupid. And cant ever do anything right

[Reddawn36]

[quote name='lowrider' post='192580' date='May 14 2009, 02:20 PM']Oher was a terrible pick. It made no sense. Ozzie Newsome should get fired. I hate the ravens. They are so stupid.[/quote]

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i now see the sarcasm face, wasn't there til you edited

[lowrider]

[quote name='Reddawn36' post='192581' date='May 14 2009, 02:21 PM']nm

i now see the sarcasm face, wasn't there til you edited[/quote]
haha, i realized as soon as i posted it some people might think i was serious so i had to make sure knew i was being sarcastic.

[Ravnet]

[quote name='justifythegame' post='192512' date='May 14 2009, 10:18 AM']good coaching, niether of which he had.[/quote]

Jim Fassel, Brian Billick, Rick Neuheisel... Kyle had a ton of help, he just wasn't good enough. Otherwise a very agreeable and solid post.

[ravensfan160]

[quote name='Ravnet' post='192585' date='May 14 2009, 03:00 PM']Jim Fassel, Brian Billick, Rick Neuheisel... Kyle had a ton of help, he just wasn't good enough. Otherwise a very agreeable and solid post.[/quote]
I don't know if you can consider that solid coaching. Theres no question he had a bevy of coaches trying to help him but I think there was a lack of quality. Fassel and Billick are still out of the league despite wanting to continue coaching so that should tell you something. Rick Nueheisel is probably the best pure coach of the three considering what he's done in college but he was brought in too late to salvage Boller. Bottom line all three of those coaches put together can't match Cam Cameron. His hire was even more important than Harbaugh last year because of what he did with Joe and our offense.

[Reddawn36]

[quote name='lowrider' post='192582' date='May 14 2009, 02:36 PM']haha, i realized as soon as i posted it some people might think i was serious so i had to make sure knew i was being sarcastic.[/quote]

lol, yeah hard to pick up sarcasm via interweb w/o some kind of a hint lol