Interesting Take On Ol: Height Vs Arm Length

[BloodRaven]

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[b]Every year at the NFL scouting combine, draft prospects strip down to their underwear and parade in front of scouts and executives in an event known as the weigh-in. This is the first time official heights and weights are taken on each player. However, two other vital pieces of information are also recorded that have just as much importance in determining how

[MKdave]

What were JOs?

[BloodRaven]

Matsko said Gaither has the footwork of Orlando Pace, the power of Willie Roaf, and arms almost as long as Ogdens.

[#1 D]

[quote name='MKdave' post='192494' date='May 14 2009, 05:10 AM']What were JOs?[/quote]
LOL i was gonna ask the same question.

[Sizzle]

Hight and Length is like saying 40 speed and 3 cone drill. Even if you are not as good the bottom line is can you play football.

[RoflDogs]

Arm length at the edges, tall in between the tackles

[Ed_Reed20]

Good article. It feels good to have two good young OT's.

[justifythegame]

Great find. This applies to guys like Terry. But like the article said, arm length still isn't everything.

Consider Alex Barron, a first round pick of the St. Louis Rams a few years ago. He is considered one of the worst, if not the worst, starting tackles in the NFL. Marc Bulger and the Rams backups (interestingly which will include Boller next year) have suffered countless injuries thanks to that guy. Why he is still starting? - because he was their first round pick. Oh yeah, my point being, his arm length - a massive 37 3/4". There are couple Ts who have better arm length, but end up playing terrible or being moved to guard. Some of these guys just aren't very intelligent or hardworking, which is what you have to look for in a first round T. JO is the best example imo, he had the physical skills, but man did that guy study and study. Combine that with JOs ability to dominate physically and you got the best T in history. His knowledge for the position may surpass anyone else, which is why i think he need to come back and be a coach.

[McBurks]

Good find,it's nice to know that we have our line-man are noticed.

[BaltimoreBulldog]

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[BloodRaven]

[quote name='justifythegame' post='193121' date='May 16 2009, 01:11 PM']Great find. This applies to guys like Terry. But like the article said, arm length still isn't everything.

Consider Alex Barron, a first round pick of the St. Louis Rams a few years ago. He is considered one of the worst, if not the worst, starting tackles in the NFL. Marc Bulger and the Rams backups (interestingly which will include Boller next year) have suffered countless injuries thanks to that guy. Why he is still starting? - because he was their first round pick. Oh yeah, my point being, his arm length - a massive 37 3/4". There are couple Ts who have better arm length, but end up playing terrible or being moved to guard. Some of these guys just aren't very intelligent or hardworking, which is what you have to look for in a first round T. JO is the best example imo, he had the physical skills, but man did that guy study and study. Combine that with JOs ability to dominate physically and you got the best T in history. His knowledge for the position may surpass anyone else, which is why i think he need to come back and be a coach.[/quote]

There is another big issue people to consider about linemen, and its been the big difference between Chris Chester and Jason Brown... you can see it in this picture

[img]http://www.baltimoresun.com/media/photo/2007-10/33219916.jpg[/img]

Lower body strength, thickness. If youre built top heavy and have a small waist and butt (like Chester, Terry, Alex Barron etc) no amount of benchpress or squats is going to give you an anchor and that all important hip roll.

Its also why Andre Smith (with his 19 bench reps) plays much stronger than Jason Smith (37 reps)

[edreedfromtheu]

[quote name='BloodRaven' post='193230' date='May 16 2009, 09:24 PM']There is another big issue people to consider about linemen, and its been the big difference between Chris Chester and Jason Brown... you can see it in this picture

[img]http://www.baltimoresun.com/media/photo/2007-10/33219916.jpg[/img]

Lower body strength, thickness. If youre built top heavy and have a small waist and butt (like Chester, Terry, Alex Barron etc) no amount of benchpress or squats is going to give you an anchor and that all important hip roll.

Its also why Andre Smith (with his 19 bench reps) plays much stronger than Jason Smith (37 reps)[/quote]

you realize gaither looks to have a smaller waist than brown in that picture, right? brown is one of those typical guys who got put on the line because he was big. he's not necessarily all muscles, he's just got a lot of size to him. chester and gaither look buff, in shape, which to me... is much better.

but like someone else already pointed out, it just comes down to what the player does with what he has. if you can play football, you can play football. doesnt matter if you are 290 pure muscle, tall, quick, and strong.... if you aren't coordinated enough to use any of it. truth be told, i'm glad we got birk. i think he is going to improve the entire line's blocking assignments and it should really show. that is... if we get our right tackle fully prepared and he stays healthy.

[BloodRaven]

[quote name='edreedfromtheu' post='193235' date='May 16 2009, 09:31 PM']you realize gaither looks to have a smaller waist than brown in that picture, right? brown is one of those typical guys who got put on the line because he was big. he's not necessarily all muscles, he's just got a lot of size to him. [b]chester and gaither look buff, in shape, which to me... is much better. [/b]

but like someone else already pointed out, it just comes down to what the player does with what he has. if you can play football, you can play football. doesnt matter if you are 290 pure muscle, tall, quick, and strong.... if you aren't coordinated enough to use any of it. truth be told, i'm glad we got birk. i think he is going to improve the entire line's blocking assignments and it should really show. that is... if we get our right tackle fully prepared and he stays healthy.[/quote]

Who cares how they look? Warren Sapp had a gut that almost touched the ground in his 3 point stance, and hes one of the bests DTs to ever play. The point Im making is a low centre of gravity and lower body strength is extremely important. That is why fat Jason Brown is so much better than buff Chris Chester.

[justifythegame]

if getting fat is whats going to finally make Chris Chester play like a 2nd round pick, then the coaching staff needs to start working on him immediately. start off by giving him 2 bags of potato chips as an appatizer, i think i heard warren sapp say thats how he ate.

[wolfzie06]

OT's can have all the arm length in the world, but they still need wide hips/thighs/buttocks to have a strong core strength and be rooted to the ground when they make a stance against a DE/DT. Like the one poster said- Alex Barron has great arm length, yet he gets bowled over consistently.

[jezzy]

i dont buy that i just wanna know how driven and how much heart a guy has thats the stuff i like to see it dont really matter about things like this cuz you could have the best everything a no heart or will and go no were so this is just meaningless crap.