Michael Oher Problems...

[Ed_Reed20]

I was just reading an article on profootballweekly.com in which some team official said this about Michael Oher: [i]

[RoflDogs]

I think people are just seeing the problem from the outside, not actually knowing Oher himself.
He looks like a hard worker and a good character guy.

Read the book, I only read excerpts from it, but they were pretty good

[lowrider]

[quote name='Ed_Reed20' post='190050' date='May 5 2009, 06:02 PM']I was just reading an article on profootballweekly.com in which some team official said this about Michael Oher: [i]

[Fred Sanford]

In addition to the intelligence thing, some have questioned his work ethic. Not me, I wouldn't know, but some have.

[heapitup247]

I think we have a great system in place to take in a person who may have some issues with intellegence or even some character issues. The best example i can see is Gaither. Gaither had more flags than Oher, and hes turned out to be an excellent tackle, and, at least to me, seems like a nice guy. The whole "cooking with Gaither" thing made me think that he was a nice guy. I believe that as long as, generally, they were brought up well and aren't problem childs off the field, any other issues can be corrected with coaching. Oher seems like a changed man, and im waiting for the movie (which has Sandra Bullock and Tim McGraw in it) to get the whole story (no books for me). Could this mean he doesn't start right away? Absolutely. But if he can be a RT for 10+ years, i dont have a problem with him sitting for a bit.

[RoflDogs]

Matsko is a god, don't worry about it too much

[justifythegame]

[quote name='RoflDogs' post='190059' date='May 5 2009, 06:21 PM']Matsko is a god, don't worry about it too much[/quote]
you got that right

[jezzy]

everybody has issues so will wait n see before we say hes the worst ever but what player dont have issues in the nfl so the ravens will handle him fine

[kash96ravenstotalfan]

[quote name='RoflDogs' post='190055' date='May 5 2009, 06:08 PM']I think people are just seeing the problem from the outside, not actually knowing Oher himself.
He looks like a hard worker and a good character guy.

Read the book, I only read excerpts from it, but they were pretty good[/quote]
Oher has overcome alot of adversity in his short life and I think that improves one's character. He seems like the kind of guy that the Ravens like.

[Ravenskid2085]

IMO if Ozzie drafts him, hes a hard working character guy.

I'm not worried

[plesiosaur]

[quote name='heapitup247' post='190058' date='May 5 2009, 06:16 PM']I think we have a great system in place to take in a person who may have some issues with intellegence or even some character issues. The best example i can see is Gaither. Gaither had more flags than Oher, and hes turned out to be an excellent tackle, and, at least to me, seems like a nice guy. The whole "cooking with Gaither" thing made me think that he was a nice guy. I believe that as long as, generally, they were brought up well and aren't problem childs off the field, any other issues can be corrected with coaching. Oher seems like a changed man, and im waiting for the movie (which has Sandra Bullock and Tim McGraw in it) to get the whole story (no books for me). Could this mean he doesn't start right away? Absolutely. But if he can be a RT for 10+ years, i dont have a problem with him sitting for a bit.[/quote]


Exactly. these are the same things they were saying about Gaither last spring. These problems seem to have been worked out with Gaither, and, Oher finished college. No big deal as I see it.

[markorad]

nothing to worry about with our locker room and matsko in place. we have the youngest and brightest o-line in football. let's lock up gaither long term now and hope his s-bag agent rosenhaus gives us a break and not demand peters type money

[Guest Moderator8]

The statement at the top of the article should tell you [b]ALL[/b] you need to know about the article:

[b][i]The following quotes are from NFL scouts, coaches and front-office personnel, speaking on the condition of anonymity.[/i][/b]

Just trying to stir the pot to get people to read their articles. Not worth the bandwith it's written on IMO.

[neepo13]

[quote name='Ed_Reed20' post='190050' date='May 5 2009, 06:02 PM']I was just reading an article on profootballweekly.com in which some team official said this about Michael Oher: [i]

[52Kia Kaha92]

we have John Matsko who rocks and ozzie picked him

In Ozzie we trust

[FerrariFan87]

Not worried one bit

[Ravenoid]

So what. The comment could have come from something that happened 2 freakin years ago. I've seen where reporters dig up stuff from a players" sophmore year like an injury and call the player injury prone. This is just a lot of hot air. Ozzie knows what he's doing and so does Matsko

[rastaman831226]

This issue is being waaaaay overplayed. You don't need to belong to Mensa or be a Saint to work the O line in the NFL. What's needed is extreme talent and one helluva mean streak and according to all reports, Oher's got this in aces. So let's all sit back and watch the growth of this extremely young and extremely talented group of guys on this Ravens' line. I have a feeling we'll be witnessing the early years of most dominate O line in professional football.

[ChiseBack(CB)]

[quote name='"CBS Draft Scout"']Football Sense: [b]Oher has a learning disability[/b]. He lacks awareness picking up the blitz. He has good quickness, but needs to attack defenders away from the play more often, as he prefers to stay with his man rather than look for secondary targets to attack. He needs more than several reps to retain plays, but has to play with better instincts to pick up how the defense is attacking. GRADE: 5.3[/quote]
That would be what most people are referring to, his inability to handle most football concepts without special attention. The reason most teams "took him off their boards" is because he's a prospect that will need a lot of help and grooming for him to reach his full potential, he has too many questions about his intelligence to be considered a top 10 pick. Oher will get the best possible chance to reach his potential with Matsko, Cameron, Harbaugh and the veteran leadership in the locker room.

For those interested in the rest of the CBS draft scouting report go [url="http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/players/559237"]here.[/url]

[sporaven]

League sources also said B.J. Raji, Clay Matthews, Brian Cushings tested positive in drug/steroid tests at combine

[BloodRaven]

[quote name='sporaven' post='190182' date='May 6 2009, 04:51 AM']League sources also said B.J. Raji, Clay Matthews, Brian Cushings tested positive in drug/steroid tests at combine[/quote]

This.

Almost all speculation is made up by some bored idiot with no news to blog about.

Nothing to see here people.

[BmoreRav]

One issue i read is people don't know how he will react moving to Baltimore and away from his family, he's become so dependant on them since they took him in so he may get homesick and struggle being independant!

I don't know if any of his family are moving with him but if not this should only be a short term issue, i'm sure the Organization and the players will do everything they can to make sure he feels at home.

[H8R]

Well, to compare Gaither as a pick to Oher is silly... UDFA v.s. First Rounder. I'll trust our staff for now about Oher unless he proves them wrong. I don't think he will.

[Guest Moderator8]

[quote name='BmoreRav' post='190193' date='May 6 2009, 06:57 AM']One issue i read is people don't know how he will react moving to Baltimore and away from his family, he's become so dependant on them since they took him in so he may get homesick and struggle being independant!

I don't know if any of his family are moving with him but if not this should only be a short term issue, i'm sure the Organization and the players will do everything they can to make sure he feels at home.[/quote]


Uh, he's been going to College in Mississippi....while his family lived in Tennessee...and seeing how he had to fend for himself for 16 years before they adopted him....I see no problem.

[ChiseBack(CB)]

[quote name='H8R' post='190195' date='May 6 2009, 09:44 PM']Well, to compare Gaither as a pick to Oher is silly... [b]UDFA[/b] v.s. First Rounder. I'll trust our staff for now about Oher unless he proves them wrong. I don't think he will.[/quote]

5th Rounder

[BmoreRav]

[quote name='Moderator8' post='190197' date='May 6 2009, 01:13 PM']Uh, he's been going to College in Mississippi....while his family lived in Tennessee...and seeing how he had to fend for himself for 16 years before they adopted him....I see no problem.[/quote]

That is not my opinion. Just putting out there what i read off some so called "experts" draft negatives!!
I agree that it shouldn't be an issue but i'll post a link to the article if i can find it.

[RavenInVA]

Gaither was a supplemental draft pickup (and a good one too) so he is not a UDFA because he was actually drafted.

[samic]

[quote name='ChiseBack(CB)' post='190179' date='May 6 2009, 02:53 AM']Football Sense: Oher has a learning disability. He lacks awareness picking up the blitz. He has good quickness, but needs to attack defenders away from the play more often, as he prefers to stay with his man rather than look for secondary targets to attack. He needs more than several reps to retain plays, but has to play with better instincts to pick up how the defense is attacking. GRADE: 5.3

That would be what most people are referring to, his inability to handle most football concepts without special attention. The reason most teams "took him off their boards" is because he's a prospect that will need a lot of help and grooming for him to reach his full potential, he has too many questions about his intelligence to be considered a top 10 pick. Oher will get the best possible chance to reach his potential with Matsko, Cameron, Harbaugh and the veteran leadership in the locker room.

For those interested in the rest of the CBS draft scouting report go [url="http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/players/559237"]here.[/url][/quote]

this is the kind of nonsense i cannot tolerate. the guy played at a very high level in college. listen to his coaches speak about him, they speak very highly of this kid. he came from a very tough background and experienced things these "experts" have never been through and to say the kid has a learning disability!! come on, that's just nonsense. he may have been behind before he was adopted. they say that he had no retention of anything for a ninth grader, but that's because he was struggling to survive! yet he was able to get into college and is only 15 credits away from graduating! the kid would need intelligence to do that, don't you think? let's stop this nonsense and see how the guy plays on gameday please.

[Guest Moderator8]

[quote name='BmoreRav' post='190203' date='May 6 2009, 09:22 AM']That is not my opinion. Just putting out there what i read off some so called "experts" draft negatives!!
I agree that it shouldn't be an issue but i'll post a link to the article if i can find it.[/quote]

I know that wasn't your opinion....I was just commenting on the original article you quoted...so we're cool.