Merged Suggs To Sf Rumors/discussion Threads

[flynismo]

Suggs for a 1st, 3rd and Lawson. I'd take that.

[flynismo]

[quote name='shaikh015' post='189834' date='May 4 2009, 09:09 PM']Just to make it a done deal I would throw in next years 3rd...
Yes I would do this deal!!!![/quote]


lol, I'm sure you would! So would I, and Oz for that matter. I just don't think SFO would be very enthusiastic about it...I mean, we could at least throw in a reacharound if we're going to screw them like that.

[cheeze]

[quote name='DBOWSRAVENS' post='189825' date='May 4 2009, 08:40 PM']This is not a good business move, think about it, [size=3][b]unless oz trades back with that pick[/b][/size] we will have to pay that guy alot of money depending on the position drafted. Yes, it would free up some money and trade possibilities for a "big play" receiver but we lose a key member of our defense, a guy that will play injured and be willing, well kinda willing to play for less, and gain an expensive unproven rookie with san frans pick along with the rookie we get with our pick. I say lock suggs up long term, and get cap space that way.[/quote]

Ozzie is one of the best at doing that. You can rest assured that that is most likely what would happen.


[quote name='flynismo' post='189836' date='May 4 2009, 09:27 PM']lol, I'm sure you would! So would I, and Oz for that matter. I just don't think SFO would be very enthusiastic about it...I mean, we could at least throw in a reacharound if we're going to screw them like that. [/quote]

LMAO

[RavensIQ]

[quote name='DocMartin' post='189799' date='May 4 2009, 06:59 PM'][quote name='RavensIQ' post='189793' date='May 4 2009, 06:50 PM']
Did you guys hear that the New Orlean Saints have offered us a 1st round pick for Ed Reed?

I think Ozzie is gonna take it so next year we can draft a WR!!

But I think we should try to get more out of them...how about 1st + Pierre Thomas (RB) + Billy Miller (TE) then we could trade Ray Rice + Todd Heap for Anquan Boldin

and we would have

1st round WR (NEXT YEAR) + Mason + Boldin + Clayton

OMG I'm so excited!!

And while we're at it we should trade all our good players for draft picks so hopefully we can draft players that will one day be as good as the players we just traded that we once drafted...cuz the whole point to the draft is to find players like Terrell Suggs and Ed Reed that way you can trade them a couple years later for more picks! And eventually if we keep trading all our good players we''ll get enough draft picks to build a good team and hopefully that team will become as good as this team is right now and we'll be able to make a superbowl run like we're trying to do this year with the players we once drafted...YEAH!!!

Again the whole point to drafting players is to hopefully find a guy like Terrell Suggs...so now that we have him and he's in his prime why would we trade him for picks in hopes to find another player like him in future drafts?

Bcuz I got high...
bcuz I got high...
bcuz I got hiiiiiighhh
la la da da da da...[/quote]

What? Ed Reed to Saints, for 1st round pick, where did you hear that nonsense? They would have to give up half of the team, including Reggie Bush and a lot of draft picks with it, NO WAY !!! I don't care about any of 1st round draft picks, there is only ONE
Ed Reed. I think you've been smoking something, that's why, u r high, la da da da !!!???
[/quote]

Vrrrrooooommm


That went over your head didn't it?

Another sarcasm casualty...

[theFRANCHISE]

[quote name='flynismo' post='189835' date='May 4 2009, 09:25 PM']Suggs for a 1st, 3rd and Lawson. I'd take that.[/quote]
Even though I love Suggs, I'd definitely jump on that deal if it was on the table. That's essentially three players for one; Lawson to immediately take Suggs' place, plus two more players to be added in the draft later. Manny Lawson is no Terrell Suggs, but he's still a quality player.

[20ravens52]

[quote name='jezzy' post='189759' date='May 4 2009, 04:54 PM']thats not true cuz arizona dont want to break the bank on boldin why would they break the bank on suggs n the same for us if we want to tie that much money up we would sign suggs so the boldin thing is def dead now[/quote]


Because maybe they want to invest in improving their defense instead of having two top 10 recievers making 10 grand each.

It's all about balance in this league. And you know Suggs would liven up that defense.

[Alexir]

[quote name='TSizzle00' post='189803' date='May 4 2009, 07:05 PM']Not in that Ravens vs Cowboys game last year OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOH![/quote]

actually he had a sack and 6 tackles. better than suggs lol

[btully27]

Suggs,a conditional 3rd, n a 5th for dansby n boldin...be ready 4 this...

[theFRANCHISE]

Won't happen.

Ozzie doesn't like to give up players [i]and[/i] draft picks in the same trade (I'm not sure if he's ever done it), especially multiple draft picks (only done so twice). And the Cardinals won't give up Karlos Dansby even though they'd be inclined to unload Anquan Boldin.

Sorry, but this trade is too unrealistic to happen. There's no balance in value here.

[RavensIQ]

[quote name='btully27' post='189849' date='May 4 2009, 11:55 PM']Suggs,a conditional 3rd, n a 5th for dansby n boldin...be ready 4 this...[/quote]


Ok, so trade away a player bcuz he's asking for too much money...

replace him with not 1 but 2 players...

that are both seeking to be paid top dollar...

[btully27]

actually dansby is in his second yr of bein tagged so if az wants to get any value out of him theyd need to get it now or lose him...also the 3rd is a conditional 3rd tht can become a 1st pendin their production...also its not tht unlikely tht if a good deal is out there tht oz wont jump on it...

[btully27]

[quote name='RavensIQ' post='189851' date='May 5 2009, 12:17 AM']Ok, so trade away a player bcuz he's asking for too much money...

replace him with not 1 but 2 players...

that are both seeking to be paid top dollar...

[/quote]
yeah but with a stronger chance of bein superbowl contenders they may work their contracts to where they r cheaper the 1st yr then get paid next yr in the uncapped yr

[RavensIQ]

I say the Ravens should trade Suggs to Nabisco that way we can have free Oreos on game day!!

Imagine the possibilities of Reed to McDonalds!!

[RavensIQ]

[quote name='btully27' post='189853' date='May 5 2009, 12:19 AM']yeah but with a stronger chance of bein superbowl contenders they may work their contracts to where they r cheaper the 1st yr then get paid next yr in the uncapped yr[/quote]

So why not do that with Suggs?

And aren't the Cardinals technically reigning super bowl contenders? By keeping both Dansby and Boldin wouldn't they have a stronger chance at contending again next year? So why wouldn't they offer this type of deal? Unless....they did but both players weren't interested?

[flynismo]

[quote name='DocMartin' post='189799' date='May 4 2009, 06:59 PM']What? Ed Reed to Saints, for 1st round pick, where did you hear that nonsense? They would have to give up half of the team, including Reggie Bush and a lot of draft picks with it, NO WAY !!! I don't care about any of 1st round draft picks, there is only ONE
Ed Reed. I think you've been smoking something, that's why, u r high, la da da da !!!???[/quote]



Um. Don't mind IQ, that dude's crazy. Or high. Or both.

Either that, or he was making a mockery of some of the ideas that get bounced around here, which, knowing him, is the most likely of all scenarios. So chill out, lol...

[flynismo]

[quote name='RavensIQ' post='189854' date='May 5 2009, 12:20 AM']I say the Ravens should trade Suggs to Nabisco that way we can have free Oreos on game day!!

Imagine the possibilities of Reed to McDonalds!![/quote]

Heck no, Reed to BK. I would do Reed for The King straight up.

[52Kia Kaha92]

well i dont think that suggs will resign with us so why not get something for him as oppose to a 3rd rounder in 2011, we might aswell trade him, he turned down 31 million guarnteed from us ( i have a source) so would you pay more than 31 million which is more than jared Allen) he aint worth that. Id take a first and 4th for suggs and just move one. Id rather have two first roudners next year then one first and a 3rd in 2011

Face it people suggs aint resiging because ozzie isnt dumb enough to give up more than 35 mil in guarnteed to Suggs

[flynismo]

[quote name='theFRANCHISE' post='189845' date='May 4 2009, 10:41 PM']Even though I love Suggs, I'd definitely jump on that deal if it was on the table. That's essentially three players for one; Lawson to immediately take Suggs' place, plus two more players to be added in the draft later. Manny Lawson is no Terrell Suggs, but he's still a quality player.[/quote]

I would in a NY minute. It would be a tough sell to get that much in return, but doable.

[52Kia Kaha92]

on the trade for suggs i would acatually trade him to ARI for Dockket and there 3rd rounder.

We get a great pass rusher from the inside that can take up blocks and stillg et a 3rd round pick.

My view on this is simple, we might aswell get something for hin mo because ozzie isnt dumb enough to spend 35 mil on this guy nor is he dumb enough to put an 18 million dollar tag on him next year

[flynismo]

[quote name='52Kia Kaha92' post='189858' date='May 5 2009, 12:34 AM']well i dont think that suggs will resign with us so why not get something for him as oppose to a 3rd rounder in 2011, we might aswell trade him, he turned down 31 million guarnteed from us ( i have a source) so would you pay more than 31 million which is more than jared Allen) he aint worth that. Id take a first and 4th for suggs and just move one. Id rather have two first roudners next year then one first and a 3rd in 2011

Face it people suggs aint resiging because ozzie isnt dumb enough to give up more than 35 mil in guarnteed to Suggs[/quote]


Well, keep in mind that the CBA is up in the air after this year as of right now, and also you would need to factor in how exactly that $35M would affect the salary cap if there is one. Say that $35M gets spread out over 5 years... a lot of it would be backloaded, and I'm sure the lion's share would come in the form of signing bonuses, etc...

It's hard to say at this point with any certainty that Suggs will or will not be under contract by season's end. But rest assured, even if we were to trade him, the team recieving him would be well aware of the fact that he would only be under contract for this season, at which point resigning him becomes their problem, which significantly hurts Suggs' trade value in the first place.

[CustomUserName]

[quote name='btully27' post='189849' date='May 4 2009, 11:55 PM']Suggs,a conditional 3rd, n a 5th for dansby n boldin...be ready 4 this...[/quote]

Perfect, and then Ozzie will lure Marino and Sanders out of retirement and sign me to replace Ray Lewis.

A man can dream

[flynismo]

[quote name='20ravens52' post='189847' date='May 4 2009, 11:07 PM']Because maybe they want to invest in improving their defense instead of having two top 10 recievers making 10 grand each.

It's all about balance in this league. And you know Suggs would liven up that defense.[/quote]

Exactly my point. And to back the point up, Arizona publicly stated that resigning Dansby and Wilson were higher priorities than appeasing Boldin's contract demands.

[flynismo]

[quote name='CustomUserName' post='189863' date='May 5 2009, 12:44 AM']Perfect, and then Ozzie will lure Marino and Sanders out of retirement and sign me to replace Ray Lewis.

A man can dream [/quote]

As long as you meant Barry, not Deion, I'm cool with that

[CustomUserName]

[quote name='flynismo' post='189865' date='May 5 2009, 12:46 AM']As long as you meant Barry, not Deion, I'm cool with that[/quote]

Yup, I meant Barry

In all honesty, does anyone else think he could come out of retirement and break Emmitt Smith's rushing record in, say, 3 years.

Back on topic, the trade won't happen. Boldin isn't going to be a Raven.

[WACKO4FLACC0]

[quote name='Ravenskid2085' post='189739' date='May 4 2009, 03:22 PM']It's Anita Marks. Not Very Legit.[/quote]
AGREED!!!!!!!!!

[BloodRaven]

Speculation feeding frenzy... are we all a bit bored this offseason?

[theFRANCHISE]

[quote name='RavensIQ' post='189855' date='May 5 2009, 12:25 AM']And aren't the Cardinals technically reigning super bowl contenders? By keeping both Dansby and Boldin wouldn't they have a stronger chance at contending again next year? So why wouldn't they offer this type of deal? Unless....they did but both players weren't interested?[/quote]
Boom, roasted.

But no, seriously, you're right, the Cardinals have a stronger chance at contending again next year just by virtue of being the reigning NFC Champions. Not only that, but being in the NFC, period, gives them a decided advantage since the gap between the best and worst teams in that conference is huge. The AFC just has too many good teams, which is why the playoff field changes so often in the conference.

[jezzy]

the only way a trade for suggs is going to happen is if ozzie thinks a deal won't get done and sizzle will walk next year then he will be gone at some point other then that i dont see oz letting sizzle go cuz hes what every coach wants on defense a guy who can get sacks,drop in coverage, play the run i dont see us parting ways with some one like that n it def n gonna happen for boldin thats dead n stinking so lets all hope suggs get his deal cuz we really wont get the better end of this deal.

[Mahatma_Sloth]

[quote name='RavensIQ' post='189775' date='May 4 2009, 03:49 PM']Are yall crazy????

We're not trading Suggs. Especially for just a 1st round pick.

If we were entertaining trading a 1st round pick to the Cardinals for Boldin...

and we're interested in trading Suggs for a 1st round pick...

Why didn't we trade Suggs for Boldin?

Forget that logic...WHY WOULD WE TRADE THE BEST HYBRID BACKER IN THE GAME???

The off season hallucinations are strong this year. Being deprived of football for 2 whole months is really starting to have its affect on peoples thought process.

At least, Suggs is worth 2 1st round picks. He's only 26 years old and already has 6 years experience. That kinda value is priceless folks.[/quote]
Because Boldin would cost just as much as suggs.... I would love to have boldin but im more concerned about our FAs after this season that dont have an ovver inflated sense of self worth

[Mahatma_Sloth]

[quote name='jezzy' post='189952' date='May 5 2009, 10:41 AM']the only way a trade for suggs is going to happen is if ozzie thinks a deal won't get done and sizzle will walk next year then he will be gone at some point other then that i dont see oz letting sizzle go cuz hes what every coach wants on defense a guy who can get sacks,drop in coverage, play the run i dont see us parting ways with some one like that n it def n gonna happen for boldin thats dead n stinking so lets all hope suggs get his deal cuz we really wont get the better end of this deal.[/quote]
Its been 3 years in the makeing.... when will the deal get done. I'm starting to think never