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Would You Rather...

1st 3 Rounds   49 members have voted

  1. 1. Teams

    • Ravens
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    • Giants
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I'm not entirely sold on our draft, although a couple of the picks (Oher, Kruger, and even Riley) excite me a little bit. Don't get me wrong I haven't lost faith in Ozzie, this poll is just for fun!

My question is, would you trade our first 3 round players for theirs?

Giants
Round 1 - Hakeem Nicks (WR)
Round 2 (pick 28 NOT 13) - William Beatty (OT)
Round 3 - Rames Barden (WR)


Ravens
Round 1 - Michael Oher (OT)
Round 2 - Paul Kruger (DE/LB)
Round 3 - Lardarius Webb (CB)
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i think nicks and barden are great players and beatty is a goot OT in 2-3 years but i also think we drafted great players with the 4th best OT in the draft and a good CB and i think a very very good DE

i would not trade these picks
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I don't like the 2 receiver mentality that the Giants have where they only focused on offense.

We, being a defensive,run game team drafted who we needed to continue to be a defensive team, so the poll is essentially asking would you rather be an offensive minded team. Which is a no go for me, defense wins championships.
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[quote name='Shawn`' post='187681' date='Apr 27 2009, 04:37 PM']I don't like the 2 receiver mentality that the Giants have where they only focused on offense.

We, being a defensive,run game team drafted who we needed to continue to be a defensive team, so the poll is essentially asking would you rather be an offensive minded team. Which is a no go for me, defense wins championships.[/quote]

The giants went offense because their defense won them the super bowl 2 years ago.. Its pretty much the same defense now that they had when they won the super bowl so i understand them going offense..
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We did not have the same needs as the Giant's. The lost their #1 Wr and are looking for a replacement.
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The Giants had a good draft for what they needed. The Ravens got what they needed. You can't really compare the drafts, especially when you consider what the teams need.
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One of the "Laws of the Trenchs" states... the longer a quarter back has to throw, the better the receivers look.

i think the pick of Oher will make our RB's and WR's perform/look/ and be all around better and more productive.
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[quote name='ravensfan2430' post='187721' date='Apr 27 2009, 05:30 PM']One of the "Laws of the Trenchs" states... the longer a quarter back has to throw, the better the receivers look.

i think the pick of Oher will make our RB's and WR's perform/look/ and be all around better and more productive.[/quote]

People don't seem to appreciate that. Look at the Lions with Calvin Johnson. He is probably the most talented receiver in the league and he put up good stats last year but he could push 2000 receiving yards if the Lions has some protection for their QBs.
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With Oher anchoring the line, not only will Flacco have time to throw but Willis will have a line that he can work with. I'm so excited! Oh Btw, think of Ngata lining up next to Oher in the red zone!
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[quote name='Shawn`' post='187681' date='Apr 27 2009, 04:37 PM']I don't like the 2 receiver mentality that the Giants have where they only focused on offense.

We, being a defensive,run game team drafted who we needed to continue to be a defensive team, so the poll is essentially asking would you rather be an offensive minded team. Which is a no go for me, defense wins championships.[/quote]

Thats why the last time we won the sb was almost a decade ago while they won a sb 2 years ago.
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[quote name='ravens world' post='187822' date='Apr 27 2009, 08:40 PM']Thats why the last time we won the sb was almost a decade ago while they won a sb 2 years ago.[/quote]

The Giants won the SB because of an incredible pass rush and an incredible receiver playing at around 80%.
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[quote name='ravens world' post='187822' date='Apr 27 2009, 08:40 PM']Thats why the last time we won the sb was almost a decade ago while they won a sb 2 years ago.[/quote]
I would argue that we haven't won a superbowl in so long (and really, how many teams are there who would love to say they had a sb in the last ten years?) because we have been afflicted with a terrible disease called Chronic Quarterback Deficiency Syndrome.
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The Giants already have a beastly O line so their draft is a year ahead of ours. But we aren't the Giants. Check week 12 for why a reciever doesnt matter when your O line can blow off a pass rush and create holes for huge runs
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I would not trade our picks for theirs, reason being the WR is a hit or miss position. Now I would have traded Oher and Webb for AQ. I know we probably don't want to go there again, but it is my opinion.
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I'll stick with ours. I like the move in the 1st to protect Flacco on both sides. We have been waiting a long time to finally have a solid QB, so let's keep him upright.

I like the addition of Kruger, because he's a character guy, with a non-stop motor. Plus we needed help at the DE position. Bannan is really DT, so he's good against the run, but not so much in pass rush.

I will admit that at first I said, "Who is this guy Webb?" Everything I've read about him says that he is super versatile and has the personality of a rattlesnake. Kiper said he was perhaps the toughest player in the draft. If you are sticking people at 180 you must be some kind of tough.

The giants picks were pretty solid too, but I keep hearing Mike Mayock in my head saying, "Nicks is a good player, but he's not a number one reciever."

Since we already have a number 2 in Clayton/Williams I figured we didn't need another.

Beatty was a pretty solid, pick although he probably hasn't seen too many elite pass rushers at UCONN

Barden may be good, but if he's not a starter, then what are his other contributions? My understanding was that Webb is a special teams maven (not sure where that term came from?) so he's got more utility as the third round pick.

I'll take our guys!
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