Wide Receiver

[20ReedsAll]

Just plain and simple, were is the "new" difference making WR that we lacked in the AFC championship. The only pick I like from this year is Oher, because RT was a must impove position. So are we really going into next year with the same WRs? I'm really disappointed...

[theFRANCHISE]

The personnel dept. and the coaching staff probably know something about our current receivers that we don't. Marcus Smith is the likely candidate to justify that. And Demetrius Williams, when healthy, has played pretty well. Clayton is already established as the solid #2 option, so if Smith or Williams can step into the #1 or #3 spot as the season progresses (even with Mason still on the roster), then we should be ok.

We don't need a huge difference-maker at WR if the main obstacle to a championship is the Steelers. We fared decently against the Steelers with the ground attack, and that will continue to be our bread-and-butter. You can't change the team's philosophy overnight, especially with the current set of players.

[Bullrush]

I haven't given up on Boldin yet. Ozzie is way too smart to just ignore WR. He didn't even draft one late in the draft even though that was our biggest need. If we don't trade for Boldin we'll pick up a bunch of the free agents available i think.

[3headedmonster]

except the WRs in FA r horrible

[wranzell]

WE SHOULD NOT SETTLE FOR MEDIOCRITY NOT BE SOLD ON POOR RAVENS this, poor ravens that.We are well under the cap any one challenge that bring proof.We have not in the last ten years drafted a number 1 wide out other then clayton. We have not drafted a good Wr's at all ever why? why? why?.Don't tell me any one on the ravens team now there are all bad,stats hands route running.We drafted a R/b Ilb and Cb in this draft, Where in the world is Ozzy mind. we have always done well with our players yes.But we need he need's to break the M/O OF NO WR'S AND GET A ELITE WR's.RAIDERS ALWAYS GET SPEED,DENVER ALWAYS GET'S R/B WE NEED A WIDE OUT MORE THEN A AVERAGE D/E

[neepo13]

[quote name='20ReedsAll' post='187040' date='Apr 26 2009, 06:58 PM']Just plain and simple, were is the "new" difference making WR that we lacked in the AFC championship. The only pick I like from this year is Oher, because RT was a must impove position. So are we really going into next year with the same WRs? I'm really disappointed...[/quote]

I dont think the lack of a deep threat is what hurt us in the AFC championship game. The lack of a pass rush and pass defense hurt us more. And what do you know, we drafted a pass rusher and another CB. The lack of proctection for Flacco is also what hurt us, and wouldnt you know it we've taken care of that to. Bottomline, everybody wants a flashy wide reciever but our passing game didnt suffer from not having one. Our passing game suffered because we only sent out two wide recievers on most plays because the only way to keep Flacco up right was to max protect. Thats why everytime the ball was thrown downfield there were 2 or 3 defenders surrounding it, not because our guys are that bad going down field.

[baltiMORE RAVENS]

[quote name='wranzell' post='187058' date='Apr 26 2009, 07:26 PM']WE SHOULD NOT SETTLE FOR MEDIOCRITY NOT BE SOLD ON POOR RAVENS this, poor ravens that.We are well under the cap any one challenge that bring proof.We have not in the last ten years drafted a number 1 wide out other then clayton. We have not drafted a good Wr's at all ever why? why? why?.Don't tell me any one on the ravens team now there are all bad,stats hands route running.We drafted a R/b Ilb and Cb in this draft, Where in the world is Ozzy mind. we have always done well with our players yes.But we need he need's to break the M/O OF NO WR'S AND GET A ELITE WR's.RAIDERS ALWAYS GET SPEED,DENVER ALWAYS GET'S R/B WE NEED A WIDE OUT MORE THEN A AVERAGE D/E[/quote]

So you want to be like the Raiders? Gotcha

[darklight1216]

[quote name='wranzell' post='187058' date='Apr 26 2009, 07:26 PM']WE SHOULD NOT SETTLE FOR MEDIOCRITY NOT BE SOLD ON POOR RAVENS this, poor ravens that.We are well under the cap any one challenge that bring proof.We have not in the last ten years drafted a number 1 wide out other then clayton. We have not drafted a good Wr's at all ever why? why? why?.Don't tell me any one on the ravens team now there are all bad,stats hands route running.We drafted a R/b Ilb and Cb in this draft, Where in the world is Ozzy mind. we have always done well with our players yes.But we need he need's to break the M/O OF NO WR'S AND GET A ELITE WR's.RAIDERS ALWAYS GET SPEED,DENVER ALWAYS GET'S R/B WE NEED A WIDE OUT MORE THEN A AVERAGE D/E[/quote]
I'm not even going to address the fact that you called winning two playoff games mediocre, or that you, in essence called us "poor Superbowl champs". I just have one question: why in the world would you want us to be like the Raiders? Did you see their draft choices?

[Marc2k6]

[quote name='Bullrush' post='187044' date='Apr 26 2009, 07:04 PM']I haven't given up on Boldin yet. Ozzie is way too smart to just ignore WR. He didn't even draft one late in the draft even though that was our biggest need. If we don't trade for Boldin we'll pick up a bunch of the free agents available i think.[/quote]
Ozzie is to smart to ignore the WR position and has stated that he along with the coaching staff are satisfied with the WR's we have on the roster right now. That does not mean he is not open to add a WR if the right opportunity presents its self.

[neepo13]

[quote name='darklight1216' post='187084' date='Apr 26 2009, 08:14 PM']I'm not even going to address the fact that you called winning two playoff games mediocre, or that you, in essence called us "poor Superbowl champs". I just have one question: why in the world would you want us to be like the Raiders? Did you see their draft choices?[/quote]

Because the Raiders won 13 games last year, including two road playoff victories, in one of which they knocked off the number one seed,... Oh, wait.

[ravensfolife]

[quote name='darklight1216' post='187084' date='Apr 26 2009, 07:14 PM']I'm not even going to address the fact that you called winning two playoff games mediocre, or that you, in essence called us "poor Superbowl champs". I just have one question: why in the world would you want us to be like the Raiders? Did you see their draft choices?[/quote]
dont like the raiders but I think they will have a good year, I also wouldve skipped crabtree, but for maclin. I think the point is it's time for a change, we got a great qb, a decent wideout wouldn't hurt

[Marc2k6]

[quote name='wranzell' post='187058' date='Apr 26 2009, 07:26 PM']WE SHOULD NOT SETTLE FOR MEDIOCRITY NOT BE SOLD ON POOR RAVENS this, poor ravens that.We are well under the cap any one challenge that bring proof.We have not in the last ten years drafted a number 1 wide out other then clayton. We have not drafted a good Wr's at all ever why? why? why?.Don't tell me any one on the ravens team now there are all bad,stats hands route running.We drafted a R/b Ilb and Cb in this draft, Where in the world is Ozzy mind. we have always done well with our players yes.But we need he need's to break the M/O OF NO WR'S AND GET A ELITE WR's.RAIDERS ALWAYS GET SPEED,DENVER ALWAYS GET'S R/B WE NEED A WIDE OUT MORE THEN A AVERAGE D/E[/quote]
So what you are telling me is that we should have picked up J. Walker from Denver and pay him millions of dollars to do absolutely nothing!

[theFRANCHISE]

[quote name='Marc2k6' post='187090' date='Apr 26 2009, 08:23 PM']So what you are telling me is that we should have picked up J. Walker from Denver and pay him millions of dollars to do absolutely nothing![/quote]
Or signed DT Tommy Kelly to the richest contract given to a defensive tackle after a season where he came off major knee surgery and didn't play.

[RoflDogs]

If you think we should model after the Raiders, than you have a problem

[Marc2k6]

[quote name='theFRANCHISE' post='187092' date='Apr 26 2009, 08:24 PM']Or signed DT Tommy Kelly to the richest contract given to a defensive tackle after a season where he came off major knee surgery and didn't play.[/quote]
Ha Ha Ha! LMAO!

[Marc2k6]

Like the Raider, are you kidding me?

[neepo13]

[quote name='ravensfolife' post='187089' date='Apr 26 2009, 08:22 PM']dont like the raiders but I think they will have a good year, I also wouldve skipped crabtree, but for maclin. I think the point is it's time for a change, we got a great qb, [b]a decent wideout wouldn't hurt[/b][/quote]

So, you think Mason and Clayton are scrubs? I dare you tell either one of them, especially Mason that. We've got decent wideouts. You guys want a Randy Moss, Larry Fitzgerald, Chad Johnson, Andre Johnson, or Terrell Owens type of guy and there are just not that many of them to begin with. On a more interesting note, there is not one superbowl ring between them.

[futurerRaven]

listen to what hes saying read well ppl hes saying even though the raiders suck they got there qb a few weapons we have a 27 year old RB who's injury prone and a 35 year old WR seriously time to make some investments in the offense give flacco his other guy's

[futurerRaven]

i dont want a randy or a terrell or even an andre i want some one honestly like a hines ward like a santonio holmes like a steve breaston guys who can stretch the field make the catch and keep a defense from putting 8 in the box stopping the run and basically doing to us what we do to every one else

[Marc2k6]

[quote name='neepo13' post='187099' date='Apr 26 2009, 08:33 PM']So, you think Mason and Clayton are scrubs? I dare you tell either one of them, especially Mason that. We've got decent wideouts. You guys want a Randy Moss, Larry Fitzgerald, Chad Johnson, Andre Johnson, or Terrell Owens type of guy and there are just not that many of them to begin with. On a more interesting note, there is not one superbowl ring between them.[/quote]

Mason is a beast, Clayton has potential to be a beast, D. Williams needs to stay healthy and please do not sleep on Marcus Smith!

[neepo13]

[quote name='Marc2k6' post='187110' date='Apr 26 2009, 08:40 PM']Mason is a beast, Clayton has potential to be a beast, D. Williams needs to stay healthy and please do not sleep on Marcus Smith! [/quote]

lol. We got what we got. We might as well support them.

[Eso]

[quote name='neepo13' post='187088' date='Apr 26 2009, 08:21 PM']Because the [b]Raiders[/b] won [b]5[/b] games last year, including [b]no[/b] road playoff victories, in [b]none[/b] of which they knocked off the number one seed,... Oh, wait.[/quote]

What? I don't wanna be like the raiders

[neepo13]

[quote name='Eso' post='187118' date='Apr 26 2009, 08:50 PM']What? I don't wanna be like the raiders[/quote]

Are you sure? They seem like the class of the NFL. I think we should began the transition right away.

[Marc2k6]

[quote name='neepo13' post='187117' date='Apr 26 2009, 08:50 PM']lol. We got what we got. We might as well support them.[/quote]
I think M. Smith is going to be pretty good. If you look at last season he really did not get a lot of chances to get balls thrown his way. Just ask T. Copper how many times he say the ball, a lot of people did not even know he was on the team.

[RavenStorm]

Joe Flacco is our deep threat.

[neepo13]

[quote name='Marc2k6' post='187125' date='Apr 26 2009, 08:56 PM']I think M. Smith is going to be pretty good. If you look at last season he really did not get a lot of chances to get balls thrown his way. Just ask T. Copper how many times he say the ball, a lot of people did not even know he was on the team. [/quote]

We will see. I am not going to act like, we are stacked at wideout but its stupid to get angry about not taking one when we addressed some bigger needs with our early picks and got some good value with our late picks. We had a good draft.

[futurerRaven]

we had a decent draft lots of ppl had better drafts there were athletes on the board with much more talent in the second kruger is a nice pick but we should have gotten a dt instead of an end making an end gain 25 pounds is a lil much instead of making a dt lose 10 to 15 pounds

[ROH522155]

to answer the question stated in the title, demetrius williams and/or marcus smith

[ROH522155]

[quote name='futurerRaven' post='187133' date='Apr 26 2009, 09:09 PM']we had a decent draft lots of ppl had better drafts there were athletes on the board with much more talent in the second kruger is a nice pick but we should have gotten a dt instead of an end making an end gain 25 pounds is a lil much instead of making a dt lose 10 to 15 pounds[/quote]

i think our draft is gonna turn out to be one of the best in the league

[Eso]

[quote name='RavenStorm' post='187127' date='Apr 26 2009, 08:57 PM']Joe Flacco is our deep threat. [/quote]

Haha so true.