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If Aaron Curry Slips...

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do we trade up, this guy would excel next to ray lewis, he can play outside or inside in our scheme, if he is there at 10 do we trade up, many reprts are saying he might very well slip to 10 and its very likely

I would give our first, third and 2010 3rd and 7th rounders to get him
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I doubt he goes past the top 5, but yeah we should def think of trading up if someone like him fell near 10. A more likely scenario imo, is crabtree or maclin falling past 10. I would def move up if that happened
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[quote name='52Kia Kaha92' post='182851' date='Apr 21 2009, 11:30 PM']do we trade up, this guy would excel next to ray lewis, he can play outside or inside in our scheme, if he is there at 10 do we trade up, many reprts are saying he might very well slip to 10 and its very likely

I would give our first, third and 2010 3rd and 7th rounders to get him[/quote]

personally, i think he's the best player in this draft and wont slip past the top 5, let alone the top 10, but hypothetically if he did, i think it would take more than a 1st 3rd and 7th in 2010.. it would probably take at least at a 1st and 2nd this year, but i wouldnt be opposed to that at all.. even though he probably fits a 4-3 better IMO, he will be a stud in the NFL, but as stated earlier, he will NOT slip to 11

i think it would be more likely that we trade up and get an elite OT or Rey M. from USC because they'll probably be there in the teens.. i cant see us trading up though, but we'll have to wait and see saturday
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It would take too much to get him. We don't need any more money tied up at LB. We need another role player (like Bart, Ed Hartwell, etc) to play alongside Ray, Sizzle, and JJ, not a high price top ten draft pick.
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Too much to get a guy for LB for us. We can find a guy in the 3rd or so and groom him, ala Burgess, Gooden, Barnes, McClain etc...

No need to give up 4 picks for an unproven LB when we aren't willing to give ONE 1st rd pick, and ONE 3rd round pick for a Pro Bowl wideout.... thats a different topic but think about it. Why give 4 picks for an unproven player where we have at least 2 pro bowl players at with Suggs and Ray, when we have a need at WR that could be filled for way less.

My main problem with Curry is I don't see the Ray Lewis or Patrick Willis in him. Those guys are immediate game changers, and I think Curry will be solid, but won't single handedly improve his team as much as some other guys.
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[quote name='52Kia Kaha92' post='182851' date='Apr 21 2009, 11:30 PM']do we trade up, this guy would excel next to ray lewis, he can play outside or inside in our scheme, if he is there at 10 do we trade up, many reprts are saying he might very well slip to 10 and its very likely

I would give our first, third and 2010 3rd and 7th rounders to get him[/quote]
no gonna happen
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I wouldn't be opposed to trading up to anywhere outside of the top 5 to get Curry. He's that good of a football player and a person. Unless he picks up the injury bug, I think he's the least 'bustable' prospect in the draft.
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[quote name='Alexir' post='182967' date='Apr 22 2009, 01:06 PM']I would trade Suggs for him straight up.[/quote]
I am hoping I am sensing sarcasm here
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[quote name='baltiMORE RAVENS' post='182914' date='Apr 22 2009, 02:10 PM']It would take too much to get him. We don't need any more money tied up at LB. We need another role player (like Bart, Ed Hartwell, etc) to play alongside Ray, Sizzle, and JJ, not a high price top ten draft pick.[/quote]

But eventually we're going to need a new Ray. And Curry is good enough to be that, in my opinion.
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Anything could happen but I think he will be a Chief. Just thinking about him lining up next to Ray and Sizzle and being freed up by Ngata is incredible though.
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[quote name='RavenStorm' post='183112' date='Apr 22 2009, 05:49 PM']I would orgasm in ecstasy if we could get Curry but it won't happen. :([/quote]

It's sad but the Ravens can't have all the best defensive players.
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What? Why would everyone be willing to give up a first and third for a LB (a rookie LB, at that) but so many people think that a first and third is too much for Boldin, who is an elite NFL WR? Not trying to turn this into yet another Boldin thread, but trying to put perspective on this.
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[quote name='Alexir' post='182967' date='Apr 22 2009, 01:06 PM']I would trade Suggs for him straight up.[/quote]

why trade a proven product for an unproven product?
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there is absolutely no way he slips out of the top 10. trading that high up would be unlikely for us. i don't see him in a ravens uniform next season. it is more likely we get rey maualuga or laurinitis if we go linebacker in the first. if we do pick a defensive player though, i would like us to go with the DB from OSU if he slips to the 20's or Darius Butler from UConn. I wouldn't mind us trading down to the top of the second and getting Robiskie either, if he is available. i think he is the only sure receiver after Crabtree and Maclin. He has a good combo of size, hands and route running ablitiy. I would bet that he would not be there at 57 though.
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[quote name='RoflDogs' post='183206' date='Apr 22 2009, 08:25 PM']lol Curry at 3 is a COMPLETE lock[/quote]

i wouldnt be so sure, Apparently KC doesnt like the fact that he dosent have experience rushing the passer and beleievs it is too much money to spend on a guy who will play the SAM role when they play 4-3, i see KC trading down anyway so it shouldnt matter

But IMO its a lock he wont go 3, but we will see
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[quote name='Lets_Go_Joe' post='182984' date='Apr 22 2009, 01:50 PM']I am hoping I am sensing sarcasm here[/quote]
Aaron Curry is one of the best LB prospects of this decade. Suggs wants too much money and I rather have fresh legs than some guy who might not be with us next year due to FA
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i laugh at people who definitively say that curry "can't" rush the passer.

curry wasn't in a scheme where he was asked to blitz. however, curry has quickness and reads and reacts well. so much so that he had a ridiculous amount of plays behind the line of scrimmage during his time at Wake. curry can rush the passer if asked.

KC is also switching to a 3-4 defense and they'll need another inside backer to play along side Thomas. Curry is a perfect fit there.
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sorry i know this is a tad bit off topic, but i would rather the ravens get some1 like aaron maybin or tyson jackson if we were trading up..... we will need a pass rusher to replace trevor pryce
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[quote name='Moderator9' post='183319' date='Apr 23 2009, 01:46 AM']i laugh at people who definitively say that curry "can't" rush the passer.

curry wasn't in a scheme where he was asked to blitz. however, curry has quickness and reads and reacts well. so much so that he had a ridiculous amount of plays behind the line of scrimmage during his time at Wake. curry can rush the passer if asked.

KC is also switching to a 3-4 defense and they'll need another inside backer to play along side Thomas. Curry is a perfect fit there.[/quote]

I never said he cant rush the passer, i just said he doesnt have the experience, and also as i also said they dont want to spend a lot of money a guy that will play the positon he will,

and i doubt Zach Thomas starts if they draft Curry ( i dont think they will but.....), Derrick Johnson will play inside with Mike Vrabel outside and maybe Tamba Hali, he is playing snaps standing up so well see, but Johnson will play inside in KC 3-4 scheme with Thomas unless they draft Curyy in which it would be curry and Johnson.
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[quote name='Moderator9' post='183319' date='Apr 23 2009, 01:46 AM']i laugh at people who definitively say that curry "can't" rush the passer.

curry wasn't in a scheme where he was asked to blitz. however, curry has quickness and reads and reacts well. so much so that he had a ridiculous amount of plays behind the line of scrimmage during his time at Wake. curry can rush the passer if asked.

KC is also switching to a 3-4 defense and they'll need another inside backer to play along side Thomas. Curry is a perfect fit there.[/quote]

You need more than a speed rush off the edge, he said himself he needs work on pass rush moves.
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yes, curry said he needs to work on rushing the passer. my point is, people say that he CAN'T rush the passer, when they probably haven't even watched a wake forest game, let alone coaches tape. i just can't stand that kind of stuff.

and if the chiefs draft curry, johnson is the odd man out. thomas will start in the middle like he did in dallas' 3-4 defense. vrabel and hali on the outside with curry and thomas in the middle. johnson could wind up sent packing if that happens.
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[quote name='Moderator9' post='183372' date='Apr 23 2009, 11:21 AM']yes, curry said he needs to work on rushing the passer. my point is, people say that he CAN'T rush the passer, when they probably haven't even watched a wake forest game, let alone coaches tape. i just can't stand that kind of stuff.

and if the chiefs draft curry, johnson is the odd man out. thomas will start in the middle like he did in dallas' 3-4 defense. vrabel and hali on the outside with curry and thomas in the middle. johnson could wind up sent packing if that happens.[/quote]
Derrick Johnson is a solid LB, they are going to ship him out in favor of Tamba Hali?
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curry wont slip past the top 7 picks hes got the talent to step right in a contribute a guy i wouldnt mind to trade up for and the price wont be as high is brian cushing he would be great outside and suggs can stay down and flat rush the passer outta de position but curry wont slip
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[quote name='Moderator9' post='183372' date='Apr 23 2009, 10:21 AM']yes, curry said he needs to work on rushing the passer. my point is, people say that he CAN'T rush the passer, when they probably haven't even watched a wake forest game, let alone coaches tape. i just can't stand that kind of stuff.

and if the chiefs draft curry, johnson is the odd man out. thomas will start in the middle like he did in dallas' 3-4 defense. vrabel and hali on the outside with curry and thomas in the middle. johnson could wind up sent packing if that happens.[/quote]

LMAO :lol:
Are you ersious, Zach Thomas is so slow and played terrible last year, Derrick Johnson is a graet player whi is very underrated just because he plays in KC defense, They would start him, he is there best defensive player

:rolleyes:
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[quote name='Moderator9' post='183533' date='Apr 23 2009, 05:27 PM']i'm dead serious. laugh all you want. they signed thomas for a reason. not for depth[/quote]
They would really dump Derrick Johnson though??? Seems like he is their best defensive player outside of Brandon Flowers. Weird
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