Archived

This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.

purple52-92-20pain

Bart Scott's Replacement?

Who should Barts replacement be?   61 members have voted

  1. 1. Who should it be?

    • Prescott
      8
    • Ayanbajedo
      5
    • Gooden
      45

Please sign in or register to vote in this poll.

31 posts in this topic

So, we all know that Bart Scott is gone and we obviously need a replacement for him. Everyone seems to think that gooden is going to be the next ray lewis. But IMO the next ray lewis is going to be Prescott Burgess. He is bigger than Gooden, has experience in coverage (played safety in high school), is a great athlete, and has WAY more experience in college. Look at the roster list and compare how many starts each of them had in college. Prescott started all of his games ( at OLB, I know, I know) and Gooden only started like 8 or something. At OLB I think we should throw Suggs in the Boldin talks. Face it, with how much he's demanding we probably won't be able to get him. Plus Ngata is a way bigger priority. And think about it. Suggs is just another project of the system. Barnes and Mclain are both gems hiding in the depth chart, and I'd be thrilled with either one as the Suggs replacement. Johnson always brings his A game, so he should stay where he is. Anyways, please vote and post. THANKS!!!!!! :D :D
0

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
it was reported Gooden would start but with the way Jameel McClain plays i wouldnt be surprised to see him start, he attacks blocks and is the type of player we need to play that role

I think McClain would start if it was a battle with him and Gooden but Gooden is more of a feature linebacker than a thumper
0

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
I believe t good will start this year but eventually will replace ray ray when he's done and Prescott will replcae Scott/t good's place
0

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Gooden is a fast linebacker, but fast linebackers dont automatically make good linebackers (ie Boss Bailey) Everyone loves him because hes from the U and wore 52 but theres a reason he fell to the 3rd round. He just isnt that good.

Prescott will be much better next to Ray.
0

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
[quote name='BloodRaven' post='182559' date='Apr 21 2009, 01:43 AM']Gooden is a fast linebacker, but fast linebackers dont automatically make good linebackers (ie Boss Bailey) Everyone loves him because hes from the U and wore 52 but [b]theres a reason he fell to the 3rd round[/b]. He just isnt that good.

Prescott will be much better next to Ray.[/quote]

There is also a reason that the Ravens FO has stated that T Good is the front runner for the job.
0

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
I really don't mind anyone coming in. They all have potential, maybe rotate them throughout the year and see who makes the most plays.
0

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Ayen took some snaps in the pro bowl as a MLB... might not be a bad idea if Gooden isn't ready to go.

I can't say who is best for the spot... haven't seen enough game tape of any of the 3, 4 if you include Jameel McClain
0

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
I would have to say McClain should get the start. I wanna see what he can do. As long as he can keep a cool head i think we will be fine. And IMO Suggs is not a product of the system. Stick him with just about any team and i bet he will make a huge differnce. I do agree that Ngata is just as important as Suggs. I am not to keen on the Suggs/Boldin idea. I say draft a rcver in the draft and devolp him. We did go to the AFC Champ game last year. We did not lose any one big on our offense and i dont see our Defense being any worse this year so why could we not make it again and even further just by trying to stay healthy and not playing 18 games in a row.
0

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
[quote name='BloodRaven' post='182559' date='Apr 21 2009, 01:43 AM']Gooden is a fast linebacker, but fast linebackers dont automatically make good linebackers (ie Boss Bailey) Everyone loves him because hes from the U and wore 52 but theres a reason he fell to the 3rd round. He just isnt that good.

Prescott will be much better next to Ray.[/quote]

First of all, I never thought Scott was that good. I think he is a system guy and the people around him made him good. I think we will all see this when the jets become disappointed that Scott isn't worth the money they paid.

Second, Gooden played all three linebacker positions in college and put up consistant numbers until he got hurt. He didn't put up the best numbers considering he didn't play middle linebacker which is his best position until his senior year. That's is why he was a 3rd round pick. But he is versitile and fast and strong. If we let him get comfortable in a position he is going to flurish especially with the best teaching him
0

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
[quote name='lowrider' post='182684' date='Apr 21 2009, 03:33 PM']First of all, I never thought Scott was that good. I think he is a system guy and the people around him made him good. I think we will all see this when the jets become disappointed that Scott isn't worth the money they paid.

Second, Gooden played all three linebacker positions in college and put up consistant numbers until he got hurt. He didn't put up the best numbers considering he didn't play middle linebacker which is his best position until his senior year. That's is why he was a 3rd round pick. But he is versitile and fast and strong. If we let him get comfortable in a position he is going to flurish especially with the best teaching him[/quote]
I also voted for Gooden. I think he has alot of potential
0

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
I voted for Brendon to come out on top as the starter in a suprise. I see that he has a chip on his shoulder and dying to get out of that special teams role. He also has the most experience out of the bunch. He flew to the ball in every play that he was in last season and looked very much involved in in the defense.

I like him in a shocker
0

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Burgess WILL do a better job replacing Bart Scott. However, T-Good will get time there to learn from Ray because he will eventually be replacing Ray. Burgess is more of a bodyguard like Scott was to take down the fullbacks or OL for Ray to do his thang.
0

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
i think gooden can be a good LB but he doesnt really fit what we need and so i think mcclain will play beside ray lewis

the only thing i have to say when i mention jameel mcclain is [b]"big time players make big time plays in big time games"[/b]

i reall love the passion of jameel when hes on the field i think everybody sees with how much love he plays the game as he really had a bad time when he was a child, i am really glad that the ravens organization give such players a chance
0

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
[quote name='pats767' post='183089' date='Apr 22 2009, 04:59 PM']Gooden should be great...Personally, I think Bart was a little overrated.[/quote]
True that
0

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Bart was a solid player. He was solid against the run and a reliable tackler. He wasn't much of a factor in pass coverage, and other than 2006 in which he had 9 sakcs, he rarely made any game-changing plays during his Raven career. I don't think he will be missed that much...
0

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
im just tired of ppl on these forums and telecasters making a huge deal about Scott leaving. Sure, he was a warrior and good at what he did, but he was a product of the system and easily replaced. no huge loss imo. Both Ed Hartwell and Adalius Thomas were better backers, and look where their careers went after leaving the ravens. never to be heard from again
0

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Jameel McClain looks awesome so far.

However, basically the few big plays we know him from, he was a free runner on the QB, punter, etc. It's like a RB with a great offensive line, being a free runner to the QB makes anyone look good.

Bart Scott had that huge hit on Big Ben in '06 we've all seen, but was it a high-difficulty play? I think Jameel is going to be good, but we haven't seen him in the trenches much to anoint him yet.

Ayanbadejo would be serviceable and make some plays, the guy's intense and ripped. I think we want him to put 100% into ST, though, and we need help there.

The rep on Gooden is quick but soft/weak, like a Tommy Polley. Nobody knows, he'll have to show everyone what he's got. I remember seeing Gooden run like the 6th fastest 40 at the Combine; he's more a quick, sideline to sideline runner with agility rather than straight speed. With the right coaching and a few more pounds of muscle, he could excel in our system like every LB seems to.

The replacement could be Laurinaitis or Malauaulualulululuga, for that matter.
0

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
[quote name='DTenGil' post='183097' date='Apr 22 2009, 05:31 PM']im just tired of ppl on these forums and telecasters making a huge deal about Scott leaving. Sure, he was a warrior and good at what he did, but he was a product of the system and easily replaced. no huge loss imo. Both Ed Hartwell and Adalius Thomas were better backers, and look where their careers went after leaving the ravens. never to be heard from again[/quote]

1 thing though, Bart will remain in that system he did so well in. Ed and Jamie even Adalius all had new D.C.'s. Bart keep's his. Still not a HUGE loss to us but I think he does alot better than those 3. If you say he's a system backer, he's staying in the same sytem.
0

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
that is true, but it remains to be seen what his role will be. will he the Ray Lewis of the Jets D, or will he still be crashing the hole. Im not sure he can run a D like Ray.
0

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
I think McClain should replace Scott, and we should continue to train Gooden to be Ray's replacement. The reason why I think this is because McClain plays like Scott and Gooden plays like Ray.
0

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites