For All You Dhb Lovers

[WACKO4FLACC0]

[quote name='Ray The Day' post='181889' date='Apr 19 2009, 11:58 AM']Do you guys know Ted Ginn Jr.?
Do you guys know Patrick Johnson?

I know them and yes they are fast, but no they can not catch the football and cant run routes

Ted Ginn was great at college and the 9th overall pick in the 2007 NFL draft for the Miami Dolphins

Patrick Johnson was also good at college and too fast just like Ted Ginn Jr. and the 42nd overall pick in the 1998 NFL draft for the Baltimore Ravens


So what tell you all these facts? Speed WRs are bad

For all the guys who want the Ravens to draft DHB, he will be long gone i can predict you a pick:


[b]With the 7th overall pick in the 2009 NFL draft the Oakland Raiders select Darrius Heyward-Bey WR Maryland[/b][/quote]
Oakland is not going with DHB

[Ozzsome]

[quote name='WACKO4FLACC0' post='182982' date='Apr 22 2009, 07:49 PM']Oakland is not going with DHB[/quote]
Why!?
He runs a 4.3 40 and is 6-2 an al davis type player

[lowrider]

I think Al Davis is going to pickup Michael Vick and trade the number 7 pick to the state penitentiary of maurice clarrett to get him. Take that Todd McShay. Never saw that coming.

[samic]

[quote name='Ravnet' post='182079' date='Apr 19 2009, 10:23 PM']This thread is groundbreaking; I previously thought that speed was a good thing, but after seeing your astounding logic, I now realize that being fast is bad.

Thanks so much.[/quote]

speed is a good thing for a receiver, but hands and route running are much more important. look at yamon figurs, he has speed to spare but can't catch to save his life! i'd rather us pick a big receiver that can run great routes, has excellent hands and can break tackles and block downfield. i think that most people here are enamored with DHB because he's a MD kid and he's fast. there are too many questions surrounding him to take him at 26. coming out of college, clayton had a better resume than he did. if we have to take a receiver in the first two rounds i'd say Nicks, Britt or Robiskie, not necessarily in that order. oh and can we please get a long-term answer at right tackle?

[cheeze]

[quote name='samic' post='183267' date='Apr 22 2009, 10:49 PM']speed is a good thing for a receiver, but hands and route running are much more important. look at yamon figurs, he has speed to spare but can't catch to save his life! i'd rather us pick [size=3][b]a big receiver that can run great routes, has excellent hands and can break tackles and block downfield[/b][/size]. i think that most people here are enamored with DHB because he's a MD kid and he's fast. there are too many questions surrounding him to take him at 26. coming out of college, clayton had a better resume than he did. if we have to take a receiver in the first two rounds i'd say Nicks, Britt or Robiskie, not necessarily in that order. oh and can we please get a long-term answer at right tackle?[/quote]

Sounds like you just described Boldin perfectly.

[Bazard]

Why are all you people so down on him if he would have played at USC, Texas, Georgia, Texas Tech, Ohio State or any other team that has a great college quarterback or spread offense DHB would be the top five pick ahead of Crabtree him and Flacco are a perfect combo none of you pay attention to the fact that its not just the forty time its game tape along with the fact that he competed side by side against the other top wide-outs in the draft. Maryland was a run oriented offense with a revolving door a quarterback how is he supposed to make a ton of plays under those circumstances. Five years from now if we don't get DHB we will be wishing we had

[cheeze]

The revolving door was broken most of the time as well. It spun around, but there was not much there to spin.

[BloodRaven]

Wide recievers with "potential" rarely ever pan out, especially those with route running/hands issues and completely underwhelming production.

Last I checked out our very own 4.3 WR isnt any better now than when we picked him up based on "potential".

Football players only please.

[Bazard]

OK first of all Yamon was picked purely to be a KR/PR and if he became a WR that would be a plus. DHB is a Very good WR on a very poor offense and wr generally don't do good on poor offenses Look at randy moss's stats as a Raider vs as Pat and Viking DHB was in the same situation nobody was screaming but when he took over the Florida State and Miami games when they were good. Everybody is screaming about his hands and poor route running well guess they say the same thing about Kenny Britt and Maclin the reason Maclin is higher because he is in the Spread he is fast and he is a good returner orther than that they say he is raw. Britt is the same height as DHB but he is slow needs to work on his routes and has inconsistent hands. Nicks is has good hands is not fast has no quickness not Run after the catch ability just a good possession guy. Percy harvin is overall just sick but he is short has injury problems and is a raw receiver. DHB is big fast strong with very good hands and can jump out the roof but his focus is inconsistent and his route running is raw but is very willing to go over the middle which is very important. There's good and bad with everyone, everyone is being drafted on potential is they were sure product then we would never have any bust.

[bigZ2222]

on a video mock draft on nfl.com mike duffy picked at 26 and selected dhb what are your thoughts

[Reddawn36]

mike duffy = website reporter..... ozzie newesome = ravens GM i wouldn't read too much into it

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[quote name='Reddawn36' post='183370' date='Apr 23 2009, 11:19 AM']mike duffy = website reporter..... ozzie newesome = ravens GM i wouldn't read too much into it[/quote]

not to mention he'll be off the board around pick 15-22.

Britt will be taken at our 26 spot - imo (of course if we dont move on Boldin - highly unlikely we will)

[markorad]

we have the need, the need for some speed!
DHB with Bazooka Joe would not only open up the middle for Mason, Clayton, Heap and Smith but also for the run game just due to his home run potential with each catch. Mason and Clayton would help DHB with his route running and hands and he will grow with Joe

[Lets_Go_Joe]

Sportscenter had us taking TE, Pettigrew - OSU

I think this would be great, although I would be bummed we didn't get a game changing WR.

[lowrider]

[quote name='Bazard' post='183311' date='Apr 23 2009, 12:52 AM']Why are all you people so down on him if he would have played at USC, Texas, Georgia, Texas Tech, Ohio State or any other team that has a great college quarterback or spread offense DHB would be the top five pick ahead of Crabtree him and Flacco are a perfect combo none of you pay attention to the fact that its not just the forty time its game tape along with the fact that he competed side by side against the other top wide-outs in the draft. Maryland was a run oriented offense with a revolving door a quarterback how is he supposed to make a ton of plays under those circumstances. Five years from now if we don't get DHB we will be wishing we had[/quote]
Great wide recievers make plays even with a bad quarterback. I don't know the quarterback at UNCs name but Nicks still got 80 receptions last year. Partly is Marylands fault for not getting him the ball. But partly is because he doesn't have the hands and route running abilities. There is a reason why you don't hear about track stars being great wide recievers. Because they can't catch but they can certainly run fast. I would put money down that if the DHB drops to 26 the ravens will not get him. There is a lot more risk than reward for him.

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[quote name='markorad' post='183415' date='Apr 23 2009, 01:13 PM']we have the need, the need for some speed!
DHB with Bazooka Joe would not only open up the middle for Mason, Clayton, Heap and Smith but also for the run game just due to his home run potential with each catch. Mason and Clayton would help DHB with his route running and hands and he will grow with Joe[/quote]

Why does everyone think our players can "teach" guys how to do everything. How in the world can Mason and Clayton help DHB with his hands? What are they going to teach him?

D.Mason: "Hey Darius, I gotta great tip on how to improve your hands"

DHB: "Oh really. What is it Derrick and Mark?"

Mark: "If you catch the ball with your right and left hand at the same time, you will really be able to improve"

Derrick: "And if you hold onto the ball really tight once it touches your hands, you will be able to make more catches"

DHB: "Man, I never thought of that. I am so fast, but now I will have good hands too. Thank you guys so much for teaching me how to improve my hands.
I love you and I can't wait to go to the pro bowl now."

[lowrider]

I've seen too many mock drafts. The truth is we won't know who we are going to pick because of the 25 teams in front of us affect our pick.

[Lets_Go_Joe]

[quote name='baltiMORE RAVENS' post='183427' date='Apr 23 2009, 01:45 PM']Why does everyone think our players can "teach" guys how to do everything. How in the world can Mason and Clayton help DHB with his hands? What are they going to teach him?

D.Mason: "Hey Darius, I gotta great tip on how to improve your hands"

DHB: "Oh really. What is it Derrick and Mark?"

Mark: "If you catch the ball with your right and left hand at the same time, you will really be able to improve"

Derrick: "And if you hold onto the ball really tight once it touches your hands, you will be able to make more catches"

DHB: "Man, I never thought of that. I am so fast, but now I will have good hands too. Thank you guys so much for teaching me how to improve my hands.
I love you and I can't wait to go to the pro bowl now."[/quote]
Perfect..... that Sir, is perfection

[jezzy]

i hope al davis does take him so we dont i thimk he will be just like travis taylor if we take him we need a tall fast wr who can stretch the feild and catch the ball dhb is fast but hes more of reggie bush type who needs the ball fast to make people miss like on screens

[Ed_Reed20]

[quote name='lowrider' post='183430' date='Apr 23 2009, 01:52 PM']I've seen too many mock drafts. The truth is we won't know who we are going to pick because of the 25 teams in front of us affect our pick.[/quote]

I agree. However, there is a group of players that will most likely be at pick 26.

[Sizzle]

In his Mock draft today he has Rey Malauga dropping and going to Tennessee because of "Character Issues"???? what character issues. Anyways i don't think we will get DHB, first of all he wont be available secondly he doesn't have hands this is the afc north you gotta catch everything your way against any circumstances. What if he drops a pass like Sweed did which didn't cost the game for Pittsburgh fans but it might for us.

[codizzle]

[quote name='lowrider' post='183430' date='Apr 23 2009, 11:52 AM']I've seen too many mock drafts. The truth is we won't know who we are going to pick because of the 25 teams in front of us affect our pick.[/quote]
same here

[Alexir]

I really don't think we will get DHB. I think ozzie is going to do some crazy GM-ness and trade up, back, left, right, Triangle, Square, L2, R2 and do what he gets paid to do. Bring the best players to the organization no matter the position. The 2 positions (special teams deft not 1st round as well) I defintely don't see him picking are QB and FS in the first round

[Ed_Reed20]

[quote name='Sizzle' post='183474' date='Apr 23 2009, 03:11 PM']In his Mock draft today he has Rey Malauga dropping and going to Tennessee because of "Character Issues"???? what character issues. Anyways i don't think we will get DHB, first of all he wont be available secondly he doesn't have hands this is the afc north you gotta catch everything your way against any circumstances. What if he drops a pass like Sweed did which didn't cost the game for Pittsburgh fans but it might for us.[/quote]

Maualuga was arrested punched a kid at a frat party as a freshmen and was suspended for "unruly behavior" at part again as a sophomore.

[Alexir]

[quote name='Ed_Reed20' post='183522' date='Apr 23 2009, 04:59 PM']Maualuga was arrested punched a kid at a frat party as a freshmen and was suspended for "unruly behavior" at part again as a sophomore.[/quote]

Oh thats it. No biggie. Frat kids are tools and deserve to be punched.

[Lets_Go_Joe]

[quote name='Alexir' post='183548' date='Apr 23 2009, 06:06 PM']Oh thats it. No biggie. Frat kids are tools and deserve to be punched.[/quote]
+1000 I wanna see him punching punks, shows ferociousness

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[quote name='jezzy' post='183446' date='Apr 23 2009, 02:31 PM']i hope al davis does take him so we dont i thimk he will be just like travis taylor if we take him we need a tall fast wr who can stretch the feild and catch the ball dhb is fast but hes more of reggie bush type who needs the ball fast to make people miss like on screens[/quote]

If Davis takes DHB, raiders fans may actually kill him.

[Bazard]

[quote name='baltiMORE RAVENS' post='183427' date='Apr 23 2009, 01:45 PM']Why does everyone think our players can "teach" guys how to do everything. How in the world can Mason and Clayton help DHB with his hands? What are they going to teach him?

D.Mason: "Hey Darius, I gotta great tip on how to improve your hands"

DHB: "Oh really. What is it Derrick and Mark?"

Mark: "If you catch the ball with your right and left hand at the same time, you will really be able to improve"

Derrick: "And if you hold onto the ball really tight once it touches your hands, you will be able to make more catches"

DHB: "Man, I never thought of that. I am so fast, but now I will have good hands too. Thank you guys so much for teaching me how to improve my hands.
I love you and I can't wait to go to the pro bowl now."[/quote]

"Focus is inconsistent. Drops too many 'catchable' balls. Very good natural ball skills, though. Has a lot of potential in this area but needs more reps. Strong hands, does a nice job of snatching the ball out of the air, and can make catches without breaking stride. Displays good body control and can catch balls thrown below waist as well as above his shoulders. Does a nice job of tracking the ball downfield." ESPN.com

"Exceptional straight-line speed. Opponents must account for his deep speed on every play. Too fast off the snap for most defenders to challenge him in press coverage. Long, lean athlete with long arms and strong hands. Has the agility to make plays in space. Reads the field and can follow his blocks to generate yards after the catch. Can snatch the ball out of the air. Learning to better use his height as an advantage. Good leaping ability and has become more consistent in timing his leaps." NFL.com

where do you see anything about bad hands you guys need to get your info straight watch some games look at what talent evaluators say and make your decision.

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[quote name='Bazard' post='183763' date='Apr 24 2009, 11:06 AM']"Focus is inconsistent. Drops too many 'catchable' balls. Very good natural ball skills, though. Has a lot of potential in this area but needs more reps. Strong hands, does a nice job of snatching the ball out of the air, and can make catches without breaking stride. Displays good body control and can catch balls thrown below waist as well as above his shoulders. Does a nice job of tracking the ball downfield." ESPN.com

"Exceptional straight-line speed. Opponents must account for his deep speed on every play. Too fast off the snap for most defenders to challenge him in press coverage. Long, lean athlete with long arms and strong hands. Has the agility to make plays in space. Reads the field and can follow his blocks to generate yards after the catch. Can snatch the ball out of the air. Learning to better use his height as an advantage. Good leaping ability and has become more consistent in timing his leaps." NFL.com

[b]where do you see anything about bad hands you guys need to get your info straight watch some games look at what talent evaluators say and make your decision[/b].[/quote]

So you came up with those quotes after watching game film? You got your info STRAIGHT from ESPN.com so don't come act like you're some scout who knows anything. Anyways, I was mocking a person who said that our receivers could "teach" DHB how to improve his hands. Too many people on here think our guys are going to teach our rookies how to do this and that. Our veterans can help mentor our young guys and definately play a role in developing players but not to the extent that people think on here.

[lowrider]

[quote name='Bazard' post='183763' date='Apr 24 2009, 11:06 AM']where do you see anything about bad hands you guys need to get your info straight watch some games look at what talent evaluators say and make your decision.[/quote]

[url="http://warroomreport.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=388&Itemid=1"]http://warroomreport.com/index.php?option=...88&Itemid=1[/url]

"Weaknesses: Had a very up and down collegiate career