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You Are The Gm: Which Deal Would You Take?

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Which deal would you pull the trigger on?

Anquan Boldin for a 1st and 3rd

Braylon Edwards for a 2nd and 5th

Chad OchoCinco for a 3rd

These are the reported values for each player, so what would you do? Please make the decision based on these specific trades not your own (i.e. don't say, " I would just trade heap + willis + 4th + 2015 3rd for boldin) No team would ever consider that crap.
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[quote name='baltiMORE RAVENS' post='181862' date='Apr 19 2009, 11:41 AM']Which deal would you pull the trigger on?

Anquan Boldin for a 1st and 3rd

Braylon Edwards for a 2nd and 5th

Chad OchoCinco for a 3rd

These are the reported values for each player, so what would you do? Please make the decision based on these specific trades not your own (i.e. don't say, " I would just trade heap + willis + 4th + 2015 3rd for boldin) No team would ever consider that crap.[/quote]

Personally I would pull the trigger on Chad OchoCinco. Just because he is #1 WR and only come at the cost of a 3rd pick.
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Chad Johnson had a terrible year last year. His yard per reception dropped from consistently in the mid teens to only 10.2 yards last year. He has always been a lightning rod for locker room distractions.

The price to get Boldin is pretty steep. I'm not sure I would want to trade that much for a possession receiver who has a history of nagging injuries. Especially since his style is likely to get him banged up early and often. In his six seasons, he has only played 2 full seasons. And many of the games he has played in has been with hamstring issues, etc.

Edwards comes at a lesser price. He stretches the field. He isn't a known malcontent. All he does is drop a few more balls than he should. That is a coachable issue. He is several years younger than the other two. Unfortunately the Browns would never trade him within the division.

TLDR: Edwards by a mile.
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this is actually a good question. i would trade for ochocinco for a 3rd. first, looking at all of our 3rd round draft picks for the years gooden (we're still waiting on that one), figurs, pittman, darling, musa smith etc... you could say we don't do well with 3rd round picks. this was mentioned by someone else on a different post, and its very interesting to recognize. but we do extremely well with 4rth and 5th round draft picks. So i don't mind parting with a 3rd round pick, and ocho cinco is actually worth A LOT more imo. A 3rd round pick would be a steal. What happens then is like when we got Mason, we would get like 4 maybe 5 seasons from him. And a 3rd round pick is worth that for a pro bowl WR. With all that said, i dont think the bengals would trade him for a 3rd. nor do i think the bengals will trade within the division, especially ochocinco. so this scenario is VERY unrealistic.

Braylon Edwards for a 2nd and a 5th sounds like the next best option. His height would be a nice fit with Flacco as well. Honestly i don't like Edwards. The guy has all the talent except the ability to catch the ball. To think after Mason retires, it will be difficult to adjust to someone the opposite of him - by that i mean unreliable hands. With that said, it is extremely unlikely Braylon gets traded within the division, just like ochocinco. And the Giants are said to be running for him anyway. They would rather trade outside the division, outside the AFC all together, even for less picks, than trade to the Ravens.

This leaves us with my favorite WR in the NFL, Anquan Boldin. If we were trading a high or mid 1st and 3rd, i would say those picks would be difficult to part with and those picks have a very high value. But firstly a 26th overall pick itself for Boldin is a steal. I don't value our 3rds as much considering the players we have drafted with them. And trading a 1st and next years 3rd would be well worth it for a pro bowl WR for like the next 6 or 7 years, especially with Mason 36 right now. This is the most realistic senario, even though i would prefer us trading for ochocinco (1st), Edwards (2nd). But it just won't happen. Would we trade Bart Scott or C-Mac(assuming he was healthy and could pass a physical-which he cant) to the Steelers? No.
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[quote name='Nevermore52' post='181867' date='Apr 19 2009, 11:59 AM']Chad Johnson had a terrible year last year. His yard per reception dropped from consistently in the mid teens to only 10.2 yards last year.[/quote]
not a good arguement. he was supposed to go under season ending surgery, but he wanted to play and decided to actually play with the injury. immediately everyone knew he was not going to have a good season - or at least an unchadjohnson like season. Then on top of that Carson Palmer gets injured and doesn't play. A guy from Harvard was throwing him the ball all season, who threw only 1900 yards! Carson Palmer throws like 4k yards, how can you even expect a healthy chad johnson to do anything. Heck Flacco himself threw 3000 and Mason barely got 1k.
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edwards would probably be the best deal... but we'd have to do 1 pick now and 1 pick next year cause we suffer from lackofpicksalytis
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When put that way, obviously I'm gonna go for Chad "Johnson" for a 3rd rounder due to value. He has a good repor with Ray Lewis who may be able to tone down his diva qualities, and they guy can still play definitely and still has that #1 receiver quality.

Edwards wouldn't be bad for a 2nd and 5th either. He is a still ayoung receiver with upside. We have good coaches and an incredible vet in Mason who could help him with his "dropsies" and he is a certifiable big deep threat receiver which I think we need. One of the MANY reasons we drafted Joe was his pure arm strength and Edwards' speed and height would allow us to take advantage of Joe's cannon arm on play actions and what not for deep shots downfield.

Boldin is a great receiver, I just wouldn't wanna give up a 1st rounder and then some for him...
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Braylon showed what he can do in 2007 and although he struggled mightily last year, he is still very talented. He's tall, fast enough to pull away from defenders and has incredible leaping ability. I think he will bounce back in a major way this year.
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Rivals are not going to trade within the division. It's just not going to happen. But out of the 3, regardless of picks or what it would take to get them:

1. Anquan Boldin
2. Ocho Cinco
3. I don't want Braylon Edwards, he's a bum.
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[quote name='RavensIQ' post='181892' date='Apr 19 2009, 01:01 PM']Rivals are not going to trade within the division. It's just not going to happen. But out of the 3, regardless of picks or what it would take to get them:

1. Anquan Boldin
2. Ocho Cinco
3. I don't want Braylon Edwards, he's a bum.[/quote]

I don't see an intra-divisional trade happening either but trading for Braylon would make more sense. He's younger than Chad Johnson, bigger and at this point, faster too. He does drop a lot of balls but look at the games he had against the Giants or Buffalo in primetime. No receiver on the team can do that with any consistency. As a Raven, I think Braylon could.
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[quote name='justifythegame' post='181874' date='Apr 19 2009, 12:22 PM']not a good arguement. he was supposed to go under season ending surgery, but he wanted to play and decided to actually play with the injury. immediately everyone knew he was not going to have a good season - or at least an unchadjohnson like season. Then on top of that Carson Palmer gets injured and doesn't play. A guy from Harvard was throwing him the ball all season, who threw only 1900 yards! Carson Palmer throws like 4k yards, how can you even expect a healthy chad johnson to do anything. Heck Flacco himself threw 3000 and Mason barely got 1k.[/quote]

If that's not enough of an argument for you how about this one. The asking price for Ocho Cinco is only a 3rd rounder because the Bengals feel that's all they might get for him. Johnson runs his mouth better than he runs routes. He is a decent enough player when the team around him is productive. He doesn't make the players around him better. He is a locker room distraction. He is coming back from injury and 31 years old. Who knows if he is ever going to revert to his former self. And even if he does, is that the kind of guy you want to bring into a locker room?
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Chad for a 3rd is a steal. That would be done yesterday if it was real. And yeah Mason would have to change his number lol
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Bengals losing Houshmandzadeh AND Ocho Cinco in the same off season?? :huh:

a lil far-fetched...and considering they turned down 2 first round draft picks for him last year...and considering we OWNED them twice last year...I highly doubt a 3rd round pick from the Baltimore Ravens will get it done. But that being said, LETS TRY!!! :D Chad is a beast!
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Browns want a 1st and a 4th/5th plus Steve Smith. How are we to get him for a 2nd and fifth?

Chad will not be traded for a 3rd round pick, that is ridiculous.

Boldin could come at the price you are asking.

Basically it would be Braylon for a 1 and 4/5 or Boldin for a 1 and 3. I take Boldin because he comes in clutch in the big plays and big games, unlike Edwards who drops almost every important pass.
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[quote name='RavensIQ' post='181949' date='Apr 19 2009, 02:57 PM']Who would you take:

Trent Edwards for a 2nd
Bob Dole for a 1st + 3rd + 4th + 5th
Tom Brady for a 3rd[/quote]
Tom Brady just had knee surgery, I woud only give up an 8th or 9th round pick for him at this point...... :P
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[quote name='RavensIQ' post='181949' date='Apr 19 2009, 08:57 PM']Who would you take:

Trent Edwards for a 2nd
Bob Dole for a 1st + 3rd + 4th + 5th
Tom Brady for a 3rd[/quote]
i think i have to decid between edwards and dole but i think i take dole because i give up much more picks... :D
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[quote name='RavensIQ' post='181949' date='Apr 19 2009, 02:57 PM']Who would you take:

Trent Edwards for a 2nd
Bob Dole for a 1st + 3rd + 4th + 5th
Tom Brady for a 3rd[/quote]
Bob Dole in a heart beat! :o
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[quote name='baltiMORE RAVENS' post='181862' date='Apr 19 2009, 11:41 AM']Which deal would you pull the trigger on?

Anquan Boldin for a 1st and 3rd

Braylon Edwards for a 2nd and 5th

Chad OchoCinco for a 3rd

These are the reported values for each player, so what would you do? Please make the decision based on these specific trades not your own (i.e. don't say, " I would just trade heap + willis + 4th + 2015 3rd for boldin) No team would ever consider that crap.[/quote]
Are you asking this question just in general or is this a Raven's based question. If you are just asking us as football fan's I would say Chad for a 3rd is a hell of a steal. As a Raven's fan I do not believe that a trade for Chad or Braylon is realistic at all. Why would division rivial offer a trade?
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[quote name='macbrak' post='181992' date='Apr 19 2009, 05:14 PM']They already tried to sign edwards but he dropped the pen and contract...[/quote]
No he did not drop then pen, he dropped the contract under the table and then cut his foot while under the table trying to retrieve the contract. He will be out until week 7......... :lol:
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