Ravens Interested In Boldin-according To Paolantonio

[Alexir]

[quote name='Corvus' post='180596' date='Apr 16 2009, 12:58 PM']If we trade our 1st and 3rd this year we will have 4 in this draft, a 2nd, 4th, 5th, and 6th. 4 draft picks is certainly not "enough." Trading down to collect more picks with those 4 is just nonsense in my opinion, because it means we would have zero 1st day picks most likely...

I just am not on board with the notion of Boldin for a 1st and 3rd round pick at all. He is a great receiver, but we would be needing him to be a #1 receiver with this trade, can he even be that in the NFL? He has had Larry Fitzgerald on the other side of him in 6 of his 7 years as a receiver to help take pressure off of him. We don't have that type of prescence here...just too much to give up with some uncertainties about him in my opinion...need I mention again that we will have to resign him to a much bigger contract before he comes anywhere near a Ravens practice field?[/quote]

Yes he can be a lead Reciever and I think we will make moves to get MORE picks. Either by trading Heap, Mason or Clayton. Because if we do get Boldin we deft don't need all three of them.

[SUPERBOWLorBUST]

UM.......[b]YES[/b].....get this done Ozzie! We will have cap room for him. If we are not going to have to pay a 1st round pick, we should be able to have the money for him. Plus, you can cut someonr too.....if we have a legit receiver, we can handle losing one. Who it would be, I don't know. Maybe you can throw Mason in on the trade too, and maybe slip by with Mason, our 1st, and our 4th. It will free up some cap space, and we'll still have our 2nd and 3rd!

[Alexir]

[quote name='SUPERBOWLorBUST' post='180600' date='Apr 16 2009, 01:05 PM']UM.......[b]YES[/b].....get this done Ozzie! We will have cap room for him. If we are not going to have to pay a 1st round pick, we should be able to have the money for him. Plus, you can cut someonr too.....if we have a legit receiver, we can handle losing one. Who it would be, I don't know. Maybe you can throw Mason in on the trade too, and maybe slip by with Mason, our 1st, and our 4th. It will free up some cap space, and we'll still have our 2nd and 3rd![/quote]

I was thinking something like that as well. Maybe we can snag Ralph Brown from them too lol

[Alexir]

I mean as long as we have our 2nd round pick, I'm fine with that. We don't need a lot of holes filled. Maybe a Linebacker or D-line.

[Corvus]

Yeah because the Cards are gonna be interested in a 35 year old Mason

I love Mase, but he has basically zero trade value...

[edreedfromtheu]

[quote name='Corvus' post='180596' date='Apr 16 2009, 12:58 PM']If we trade our 1st and 3rd this year we will have 4 in this draft, a 2nd, 4th, 5th, and 6th. 4 draft picks is certainly not "enough." Trading down to collect more picks with those 4 is just nonsense in my opinion, because it means we would have zero 1st day picks most likely...

I just am not on board with the notion of Boldin for a 1st and 3rd round pick at all. He is a great receiver, but we would be needing him to be a #1 receiver with this trade, can he even be that in the NFL? He has had Larry Fitzgerald on the other side of him in 6 of his 7 years as a receiver to help take pressure off of him. We don't have that type of prescence here...just too much to give up with some uncertainties about him in my opinion...need I mention again that we will have to resign him to a much bigger contract before he comes anywhere near a Ravens practice field?[/quote]

You're thinking we need someone to help Boldin. I'm thinking we need someone to help Mason and Flacco. Do we have Larry Fitzgerald? No. But we do have someone else the defense has to guard. No longer can they just bunker down and spy on Mason all game. Flacco will have a taller target finally, because Heap just wasn't working out. Boldin can also run after the catch. In case you haven't noticed, he's a beast. He can catch a short pass, which we seem to like to throw, and yet he can turn it into 20 yards. Smaller DBs don't want to tackle someone as big as Boldin. You can have your picks... but I'll take Boldin. The point is to beat the Steelers and win the Super Bowl. It's not to see who can save up as much as they can to plan for the future every year. At some point, you have to want to win and not prepare to win.

[RavensIQ]

Obviously the Ravens see Boldin's value as important if they are willing to trade a 1st + 3rd!

So quit saying how stupid it is to do so and then turn around the next minute and say "In Ozzie we trust"

Either you trust Ozzie or you don't. He would only do it if he feels it would help the team. So plz, stop acting like you know better!

By the way, Anquan Boldin is NOT a 30 year old possession WR. He just turned 28 a few months ago! Big difference...Ed Reed is 30 years old, does that mean he's washed up? So get it straight people, Anquan Boldin is a 28 yr old Pro Bowl play making WR. Big difference!

You guys sit here and say how we don't have the cap room...um, how do you know? Are you the ones working these contracts? Are you the ones that have exclusive access to information that only Ozzie and Harbaugh and a few FO staff have the information to?

Ozzie has worked out Heyward-Bey, Britt, Nicks and I'm sure a few other WRs. Maybe he's not convinced (not curprised) that these WRs aren't anything to get your panties wet. Maybe he realizes @ 26 there won't be nearly as much value as Anquan Boldin still remaining on the board.


How long have we known Ozzie to be a miracle worker? You guys are tripping on the picks, meanwhile he's probably sitting back with his shades on hustling Arizona right now. Ozzie's probably gonna walk away with Boldin and THEIR 1st round pick. Don't get it twisted people. Either your faith is strong or it's not, quit frontin! If Andre Smith was sitting there @ 20 and Ozzie traded his 1st + 3rd to move up, would you criticize him then?

So now, I accept your apologies from those of you who gave me and a couple other people here a LOT of grief + TREMENDOUS crap for suggesting the idea way back when...I also think it would be a good idea to throw out an apology to Anita Marks for criticizing her "sources" cuz so far her "sources" have been right every single time.

[Camcamthecoachingman]

*Goes off to pray for this to happen to us*

If we sign Boldin we're not just going to win the SB we're gonna repeat in 2011...........

[Alexir]

[quote name='RavensIQ' post='180608' date='Apr 16 2009, 01:16 PM']Obviously the Ravens see Boldin's value as important if they are willing to trade a 1st + 3rd!

So quit saying how stupid it is to do so and then turn around the next minute and say "In Ozzie we trust"

Either you trust Ozzie or you don't. He would only do it if he feels it would help the team. So plz, stop acting like you know better!

By the way, Anquan Boldin is NOT a 30 year old possession WR. He just turned 28 a few months ago! Big difference...Ed Reed is 30 years old, does that mean he's washed up? So get it straight people, Anquan Boldin is a 28 yr old Pro Bowl play making WR. Big difference!

You guys sit here and say how we don't have the cap room...um, how do you know? Are you the ones working these contracts? Are you the ones that have exclusive access to information that only Ozzie and Harbaugh and a few FO staff have the information to?

Ozzie has worked out Heyward-Bey, Britt, Nicks and I'm sure a few other WRs. Maybe he's not convinced (not curprised) that these WRs aren't anything to get your panties wet. Maybe he realizes @ 26 there won't be nearly as much value as Anquan Boldin still remaining on the board.


How long have we known Ozzie to be a miracle worker? You guys are tripping on the picks, and he's probably hustling Arizona right now. Ozzie's probably gonna walk away with Boldin and THEIR 1st round pick. Don't get it twisted people. Either your faith is strong or it's not, quit frontin! If Andre Smith was sitting there @ 20 and Ozzie traded his 1st + 3rd to move up, would you criticize him then?

So now, I accept your apologies from those of you who gave me and a couple other people here a LOT of grief + tremendous crap for suggesting the idea way back when...I also think it would be a good idea to throw out an apology to Anita Marks for criticizing her "sources" cuz so far her "sources" have been right every single time.[/quote]

Yeah I was one of those people that got crap for suggesting this. Totally agree with ya, Good post.

There is a reason why Ozzie is getting paid and a reason why we are talking on forums. He knows how to build a team.

[stormie]

I know one place I do NOT want Boldin to go..

[url="http://www.profootballtalk.com/2009/04/16/cards-want-a-one-and-a-three-for-boldin/"]PFO article - mentions Steelers & Boldin[/url]

[Corvus]

[quote name='edreedfromtheu' post='180606' date='Apr 16 2009, 01:12 PM']You're thinking we need someone to help Boldin. I'm thinking we need someone to help Mason and Flacco. Do we have Larry Fitzgerald? No. But we do have someone else the defense has to guard. No longer can they just bunker down and spy on Mason all game. Flacco will have a taller target finally, because Heap just wasn't working out. Boldin can also run after the catch. In case you haven't noticed, he's a beast. He can catch a short pass, which we seem to like to throw, and yet he can turn it into 20 yards. Smaller DBs don't want to tackle someone as big as Boldin. You can have your picks... but I'll take Boldin. The point is to beat the Steelers and win the Super Bowl. It's not to see who can save up as much as they can to plan for the future every year. At some point, you have to want to win and not prepare to win.[/quote]



Scatter-brained reply incoming:

Heap didn't "work out" last year because our offensive tackle situation was less than ideal and he was forced to block more, end of story. Cam loves using tight ends as receivers, he just simply couldn't do so as much as he would have liked to last year.


If the Cards lowered their asking price as others have mentioned or even accepted a trade like Boldin for Heap + a 2nd or 3rd rounder i would be fine with that.

By the way, isn't it amusing that the Cards don't want to pay Boldin big #1 receiver money yet they want what you would trade for a #1 receiver in return?

Whatever, it doesn't matter because I won't be convinced otherwise that giving up a 1st round pick is a good idea just as you won't be convinced vice versa. I am sick of Boldin topics, that is all I see here anymore and this is the last time I will reply in one. Hopefully the Eagles or Giants jump on it seeing as they actually have the picks to spare for him and I don't have to see another one of these threads.

[codizzle]

only way I see this trade happening is if we trade off heap.. We obviously have to create some space... Sign Suggs and trade heap. that should give us the room we need for boldin...

im down do it oz

[RavensIQ]

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[Alexir]

Hahaha.

[stormie]

I [b]can't read [/b]the **mn Insider's thing on there.

What does it say about "Goodbye Terrell" and "Hello Anquan" ? Is that what I think it says?

[quote]Rumors: Goodbye, Terrell. Hello, Anquan.[/quote]

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[Camcamthecoachingman]

Saw a stat earlier that said last year at one point Boldin had 11 TDs in 11 Games as the #2 receiver!!! Don't forget about the toughness he showed as well. Need I remind you of the broken face he suffered. Besides I'd rather have Flacco play with proven vets who can truely help him develop into a better player. I like to attribute alot of Flaccos success with the relationship he has with Mason. Who btw was his favorite receiver last year. They reminded me of Manning/Harrison. Rule of thumb says you never trade away a QBs fave receiver, which is why Indy kept Harrison so far past his prime. Manning needed time to get comfy with Wayne before they could cut him loose. I say get Boldin and ditch Figurs, Williams, Harper and Maxwell. Now you can draft a LB to compete for Barts spot and even a late WR with potential.

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[bscott57]

[quote name='RavensIQ' post='180608' date='Apr 16 2009, 01:16 PM']Obviously the Ravens see Boldin's value as important if they are willing to trade a 1st + 3rd!

So quit saying how stupid it is to do so and then turn around the next minute and say "In Ozzie we trust"

Either you trust Ozzie or you don't. He would only do it if he feels it would help the team. So plz, stop acting like you know better!

By the way, Anquan Boldin is NOT a 30 year old possession WR. He just turned 28 a few months ago! Big difference...Ed Reed is 30 years old, does that mean he's washed up? So get it straight people, Anquan Boldin is a 28 yr old Pro Bowl play making WR. Big difference!

You guys sit here and say how we don't have the cap room...um, how do you know? Are you the ones working these contracts? Are you the ones that have exclusive access to information that only Ozzie and Harbaugh and a few FO staff have the information to?

Ozzie has worked out Heyward-Bey, Britt, Nicks and I'm sure a few other WRs. Maybe he's not convinced (not curprised) that these WRs aren't anything to get your panties wet. Maybe he realizes @ 26 there won't be nearly as much value as Anquan Boldin still remaining on the board.


How long have we known Ozzie to be a miracle worker? You guys are tripping on the picks, meanwhile he's probably sitting back with his shades on hustling Arizona right now. Ozzie's probably gonna walk away with Boldin and THEIR 1st round pick. Don't get it twisted people. Either your faith is strong or it's not, quit frontin! If Andre Smith was sitting there @ 20 and Ozzie traded his 1st + 3rd to move up, would you criticize him then?

So now, I accept your apologies from those of you who gave me and a couple other people here a LOT of grief + TREMENDOUS crap for suggesting the idea way back when...I also think it would be a good idea to throw out an apology to Anita Marks for criticizing her "sources" cuz so far her "sources" have been right every single time.[/quote]

Right on, since the end of the season SOME people knew this would eventually transpire and now it has, to any and all Ravens fans that would rather draft a WR in the 1st round you need to think back to our last 1st round pick on a WR. I believe his name was Mark Clayton, he has been a great Raven but for a 1st round pick he hasnt been exactly what we were looking for, if you go to the one prior to that where is Travis Taylor these days? There is no such thing as a sure thing in the NFL draft and 1st round picks are getting lots of money these days, DHB (who I am convinced is going to be Troy Williamson in the NFL) Nicks and Britts are all risky choices so late in Rd 1, if we were in a position to take Macklin or Crabtree this would be a whole different discussion.

Why not take a proven Pro-Bowl dominant WR who is in the prime of his career to take some pressure off Flacco and let Mason be a solid possession WR, and let Clayton play in space which seems to be his only strength. This would be a great fit for our team and we can easily address the CB, LB situation in the 2nd round, I have faith that Ozzie can get done with a 2nd and 4th rounder what most GM's can do with a 1st and 3rd rounder - especially when it comes to defense (see last 12 drafts).

And since none of us really know what is going on with the salary cap, we would surely have to offload someone with a decent sized salary. Dont really care who it is, Heap is way past his prime in the NFL......

[RavensIQ]

[quote name='Corvus' post='180614' date='Apr 16 2009, 01:27 PM']By the way, isn't it amusing that the Cards don't want to pay Boldin big #1 receiver money yet they want what you would trade for a #1 receiver in return?[/quote]


The Cardinals had a boat load of available cap space this offseason. something like $45 million.

They also had a boat load of Free agents.

They Franchise Tagged Karlos Dansby and resigned Kurt Warner. That ate up something like $20M in cap right there!

Now if you consider the Cap Space needed to fill their roster, where does the big $$ from a new Boldin Contract come from?? remember, they had about 20+ free agents.

They're already spending $10M a year on 1 WR so why would they invest so much money into 1 position? 2 Pro Bowl Wrs taking up nearly $20M a year...maybe it's worth it...then again $20M is a LOT of money!

Maybe the bridge has been burned between both parties? Maybe the relationship can't be repaired?

Why did Denver trade away a Franchise QB?

[bscott57]

[quote name='Corvus' post='180614' date='Apr 16 2009, 01:27 PM']Scatter-brained reply incoming:

Heap didn't "work out" last year because our offensive tackle situation was less than ideal and he was forced to block more, end of story. Cam loves using tight ends as receivers, he just simply couldn't do so as much as he would have liked to last year.


If the Cards lowered their asking price as others have mentioned or even accepted a trade like Boldin for Heap + a 2nd or 3rd rounder i would be fine with that.

[b]By the way, isn't it amusing that the Cards don't want to pay Boldin big #1 receiver money yet they want what you would trade for a #1 receiver in return? [/b]

Whatever, it doesn't matter because I won't be convinced otherwise that giving up a 1st round pick is a good idea just as you won't be convinced vice versa. I am sick of Boldin topics, that is all I see here anymore and this is the last time I will reply in one. Hopefully the Eagles or Giants jump on it seeing as they actually have the picks to spare for him and I don't have to see another one of these threads.[/quote]

You can do that when you have 2 of the top 7 WR in the game....

[Ravensfan19]

Everyone, including Ozzie himself, has said that this draft is just a bonus and that they can compete with the team they have right now. So if he feels like he doesn't really even need the draft, why not trade a couple picks and a guy most likely on his way out like Heap(although i hate to say it) for a proven go-to wide receiver? it's a no brainer to me. If we were rebuilding, we should keep the picks. But, we have a few aging guys on defense and need to get to the super bowl now. I say do it.

[RavensIQ]

[quote name='codizzle' post='180624' date='Apr 16 2009, 01:37 PM']u making commission off of smiley usage or something?? i was looking for some small italics saying ravensIQ makes .05$ off of every smiley that is copy n pasted[/quote]



No. I should tho! I just find it fun to mess around with the smiley faces so I figured I'd share the love. I stumbled across the site when T.O. was being traded and I created an elaborate-over the top, post bcuz I was having so much fun with it. Now that another big name WR is on the block I figured I'd bust out the moves again.

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[Jesse Conroy]

I would be so excited.

Please please please please please.....

[Ravensfan19]

[quote name='Jesse Conroy' post='180630' date='Apr 16 2009, 01:46 PM']I would be so excited.

Please please please please please.....[/quote]

Just think how Flacco feels right now...

[Bullrush]

Wouldn't mind giving up a late 1st and a 3rd for Boldin. Maybe we can offer them another player (JJ? McGahee? Troy Smith?) instead of the 3rd.

[Ravensfan19]

[quote name='Bullrush' post='180634' date='Apr 16 2009, 01:49 PM']Wouldn't mind giving up a late 1st and a 3rd for Boldin. Maybe we can offer them another player (JJ? McGahee? Troy Smith?) instead of the 3rd.[/quote]

Troy Smith's actually a pretty interesting idea. They don't really have a good backup since Leinart's never really panned out and everyone knows Kurt's on his last legs. That could be interesting...

[codizzle]

[quote name='RavensIQ' post='180629' date='Apr 16 2009, 12:46 PM']

No. I should tho! I just find it fun to mess around with the smiley faces so I figured I'd share the love. I stumbled across the site when T.O. was being traded and I created an elaborate-over the top, post bcuz I was having so much fun with it. Now that another big name WR is on the block I figured I'd bust out the moves again.

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haha i thought u'd like that

[Bullrush]

[quote name='Ravensfan19' post='180635' date='Apr 16 2009, 12:50 PM']Troy Smith's actually a pretty interesting idea. They don't really have a good backup since Leinart's never really panned out and everyone knows Kurt's on his last legs. That could be interesting...[/quote]
Plus Smith would probably be OK with backing up for a couple more years until Kurt retires. I don't think Leinart's the answer and i don't think they can get a QB like Smith who would be willing to sit on the bench and wait for Kurt to retire.

[bscott57]

[quote name='Ravensfan19' post='180635' date='Apr 16 2009, 01:50 PM']Troy Smith's actually a pretty interesting idea. They don't really have a good backup since Leinart's never really panned out and everyone knows Kurt's on his last legs. That could be interesting...[/quote]

Why would we trade our backup to Arizona? We dont have much behind Flacco and no one knows if Troy was healthy last year he may have been our starter and had us going deep in the playoffs... And until Edge is out of Zona I highly doubt they look to bring in another 30 year old RB to play behind Hightower and James.

[codizzle]

[quote name='Ravensfan19' post='180635' date='Apr 16 2009, 12:50 PM']Troy Smith's actually a pretty interesting idea. They don't really have a good backup since Leinart's never really panned out and everyone knows Kurt's on his last legs. That could be interesting...[/quote]
thats actually a pretty scary idea... imagine the depth chart

QB- Joe Flacco
QB- Todd Bouman

holy crap