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[quote name='darklight1216' post='180460' date='Apr 16 2009, 12:24 AM']Penn State defensive end Aaron Maybin has been generating plenty of buzz in the weeks preceding the draft.

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well, maybin would not be able to play a 5 technique DE, but i agree that he would be far less expensive than suggs. I would hate to see suggs go, but I don't know if any player is worth the 80 to 90 million that he would probably ask for. The only players woth that kind of money are the elite QB's in the league because they have more impact on a team than any other player.
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[quote name='AlaskanRavensFan' post='180470' date='Apr 16 2009, 01:10 AM']well, maybin would not be able to play a 5 technique DE, but i agree that he would be far less expensive than suggs. I would hate to see suggs go, but I don't know if any player is worth the 80 to 90 million that he would probably ask for. The only players woth that kind of money are the elite QB's in the league because they have more impact on a team than any other player.[/quote]

if he started averaging demarcus ware type numbers than i'd be happy to see them do it
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I'm not a big fan of Maybin. He's literally a non-factor against the run, and even his pass rush skills might be limited because all he really used was his speed. I'd rather go after a guy like English or Sintim than Maybin, but I'd rather not go OLB early anyways.
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maybin is going to have to play 3-4 olb in the nfl. he can't play with the weight needed to play over the tackle and he's pretty poor against the run at this point. pass rush specialist similar to how suggs was when he came out
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I don't see the Ravens trading up to take Maybin. He is a good player but there are some issues surrounding him.
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[quote name='Moderator9' post='181079' date='Apr 17 2009, 01:36 AM']i dont' think they'd have to trade up to get him. i think he's a player that will slip on draft day[/quote]

mod9 i value everything you say on these forums cause you probably know a lot more than i do about most of these draftees, but i have to repectfully disagree with you on this one. I highly doubt he'll slip into the 20s, but hopeully you prove me wrong
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i hope Maybin slips, imagine a pass rush of Suggs and Maybin, thats scary lol, we could teach him to play the run just like we taught Terrell

And if we trade Suggs to ARI for Boldin and a 4th rounder we might trade up to get an Aaron Maybin
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[quote name='52Kia Kaha92' post='181093' date='Apr 17 2009, 03:26 AM']i hope Maybin slips, imagine a pass rush of Suggs and Maybin, thats scary lol, we could teach him to play the run just like we taught Terrell

And if we trade Suggs to ARI for Boldin and a 4th rounder we might trade up to get an Aaron Maybin[/quote]

i agree with you about maybin. i would love to see us take him at 26 if he's there, even though i doubt he will be.

on the other hand, i would hate seeing us trade suggs and a 4th to arizona. i think suggs is much more valuable to this team than Boldin would be. i would rather see us give up the 1st and 3rd arizona wants, but eventhat to me might still be a little too pricey
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[quote name='ZIBBY28' post='181456' date='Apr 18 2009, 01:24 AM']i agree with you about maybin. i would love to see us take him at 26 if he's there, even though i doubt he will be.

on the other hand, i would hate seeing us trade suggs and a 4th to arizona. i think suggs is much more valuable to this team than Boldin would be. i would rather see us give up the 1st and 3rd arizona wants, but that to me might still be a little to pricey[/quote]

a 1st and 3rd round pick in this draft imo would set us back. there is great quality to be had in the top 3 rounds of this draft, players that can provide a potential boost to our team while providing quality depth. not to mention the cap room Boldin's contract would eat. what kind of message would that send suggs if we don't make a deal with him and give the money to someone else from outside the organization that hasn't yet done anything for us. Suggs > Boldin at this point. With regard to Maybin i think there are other players that can fit our scheme a lot better than Maybin. Not to mention he doesn't have many starts under his belt. He's practically sitting on one season of performance. I don't know about anyone else, but i'm a little uncomfortable about that.
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[quote name='ZIBBY28' post='181086' date='Apr 17 2009, 02:24 AM']mod9 i value everything you say on these forums cause you probably know a lot more than i do about most of these draftees, but i have to repectfully disagree with you on this one. I highly doubt he'll slip into the 20s, but hopeully you prove me wrong[/quote]

no offense taken. it all depends on who is on the board for these other teams. what does maybin bring to the table that Orakpo, Brown, English and Johnson don't?

all are weak in run support and will start as situational pass rushers. some have more experience than others. some have better measurables.


a lot of people tend to bash a player like Michael Johnson because he's weak against the rush. how is maybin better? michael johnson also had to face eugene monroe in college (and monroe referred to johnson as the best pass rusher he faced). who'd maybin go against? who were the big time tackles in the big 10 this year? how about in the big 12? the mac? brown was in the ACC too....but didn't play against monroe this year.


i'm just saying....some players generate a lot of buzz when it's not necessarily deserved. other players get bashed for things that could easily be said about other prospects...that aren't getting bashed.


i'd be willing to bet that unless there is a team that is REALLY in love with maybin, he'll end up going in the 20s. that team has to be so in love with maybin that they stupidly pass up a higher quality player at that position. the only teams i could see doing that would be Cincy (too high), Oakland (too high), Washington (too high) and maybe denver since they have 2 first rounders. if denver takes a pass rusher with their first pick and it's not maybin, maybin drops into the 20s. i'd bet on it
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[quote name='Moderator9' post='181971' date='Apr 19 2009, 04:02 PM']no offense taken. it all depends on who is on the board for these other teams. what does maybin bring to the table that Orakpo, Brown, English and Johnson don't?

all are weak in run support and will start as situational pass rushers. some have more experience than others. some have better measurables.


a lot of people tend to bash a player like Michael Johnson because he's weak against the rush. how is maybin better? michael johnson also had to face eugene monroe in college (and monroe referred to johnson as the best pass rusher he faced). who'd maybin go against? who were the big time tackles in the big 10 this year? how about in the big 12? the mac? brown was in the ACC too....but didn't play against monroe this year.


i'm just saying....some players generate a lot of buzz when it's not necessarily deserved. other players get bashed for things that could easily be said about other prospects...that aren't getting bashed.


i'd be willing to bet that unless there is a team that is REALLY in love with maybin, he'll end up going in the 20s. that team has to be so in love with maybin that they stupidly pass up a higher quality player at that position. the only teams i could see doing that would be Cincy (too high), Oakland (too high), Washington (too high) and maybe denver since they have 2 first rounders. if denver takes a pass rusher with their first pick and it's not maybin, maybin drops into the 20s. i'd bet on it[/quote]

Actually, english is pretty good in run support. He'd be the one I wwant if we were to go for a DE/OLB in round 1.
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[quote name='Moderator9' post='181971' date='Apr 19 2009, 04:02 PM']no offense taken. it all depends on who is on the board for these other teams. what does maybin bring to the table that Orakpo, Brown, English and Johnson don't?

all are weak in run support and will start as situational pass rushers. some have more experience than others. some have better measurables.


a lot of people tend to bash a player like Michael Johnson because he's weak against the rush. how is maybin better? michael johnson also had to face eugene monroe in college (and monroe referred to johnson as the best pass rusher he faced). who'd maybin go against? who were the big time tackles in the big 10 this year? how about in the big 12? the mac? brown was in the ACC too....but didn't play against monroe this year.


i'm just saying....some players generate a lot of buzz when it's not necessarily deserved. other players get bashed for things that could easily be said about other prospects...that aren't getting bashed.


i'd be willing to bet that unless there is a team that is REALLY in love with maybin, he'll end up going in the 20s. that team has to be so in love with maybin that they stupidly pass up a higher quality player at that position. the only teams i could see doing that would be Cincy (too high), Oakland (too high), Washington (too high) and maybe denver since they have 2 first rounders. if denver takes a pass rusher with their first pick and it's not maybin, maybin drops into the 20s. i'd bet on it[/quote]

point taken.
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if this happens we would be nasty and our pass rush would be sick this guy is the best blitzing lb in the draft and if we put him and sizzle together that would make a great d into the greatest d thats all are defense is missing is the pure pass rusher that can get to the qb and make the tackle n we all know we need that so big ben can stop all his b/s if we go defense 1st rd this better be the guy
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