Receivers...

[march4superbowl]

Im waiting for talent to emerge this year at the WR position: I bet Flacco is too.
#89 Mark Clayton 5' 10_190_5th yr.
#85 Derick Mason 5' 10_192_13th
#87 Demetrius Williams 6'2_197_4th
#14 Justin Harper 6' 3_215_2nd yr.
#81 Marcus Smith 6' 1_215_2nd yr.
#12 Ernie Wheelwright 6' 5_220_2nd
#17 Marcus Maxwell 6' 3 210_4th
#18 Edward Williams 6' 4_215_2nd

Maybe we get lucky in the draft?? personally I think d-h-b won't be there at #26, but we'll see..
wat u guys think??

[#1 D]

[quote name='march4superbowl' post='179457' date='Apr 12 2009, 06:03 PM']Im waiting for talent to emerge this year at the WR position: I bet Flacco is too.
#89 Mark Clayton 5' 10_190_5th yr.
#85 Derick Mason 5' 10_192_13th
#87 Demetrius Williams 6'2_197_4th
#14 Justin Harper 6' 3_215_2nd yr.
#81 Marcus Smith 6' 1_215_2nd yr.
#12 Ernie Wheelwright 6' 5_220_2nd
#17 Marcus Maxwell 6' 3 210_4th
#18 Edward Williams 6' 4_215_2nd

Maybe we get lucky in the draft?? personally I think d-h-b won't be there at #26, but we'll see..
wat u guys think??[/quote]
Im going for Justin Harper to be the eye-opener...i mean he didn't get much of a chance to play b/c of his injury last year, hopefully he can show what he's got this year and come out as a good over-the-middle threat for us. either him or Marcus Smith, given that we don't get a receiver in the 1st round of the draft. both of them are over 6 feet and over two hundred pounds...if they can develop, then it can be a matchup nightmare, in our favor.

[Sizzle]

I don't know about you guys but Justin Harper had 6-8 games to prove himself and he had 0 catches and 1 personal foul.

[RoflDogs]

Ernie! Ernie! Ernie!

[march4superbowl]

[quote name='#1 D' post='179461' date='Apr 12 2009, 06:40 PM']Im going for Justin Harper to be the eye-opener...i mean he didn't get much of a chance to play b/c of his injury last year, hopefully he can show what he's got this year and come out as a good over-the-middle threat for us. either him or Marcus Smith, given that we don't get a receiver in the 1st round of the draft. both of them are over 6 feet and over two hundred pounds...if they can develop, then it can be a matchup nightmare, in our favor.[/quote]
I agree w/ you- Harper and Smith should stand out in Training camp/ Pre-season- even though these othr guys have the size im' not so optimistic about their other tangibles. I'd like to see wheelwright make some progress...

[#1 D]

[quote name='Sizzle' post='179472' date='Apr 12 2009, 07:04 PM']I don't know about you guys but Justin Harper had 6-8 games to prove himself and he had 0 catches and 1 personal foul.[/quote]

ya but...how many games did he start at WR?

[52Kia Kaha92]

i am excited to see Harpe, Smith and Wheelwright in pre Season, With Troy Smith throwing they will have a very good QB to throw it to them so i expect big things from those three

[#1 D]

[quote name='march4superbowl' post='179477' date='Apr 12 2009, 07:06 PM']I agree w/ you- Harper and Smith should stand out in Training camp/ Pre-season- even though these othr guys have the size im' not so optimistic about their other tangibles. I'd like to see wheelwright make some progress...[/quote]
yea i'd like wheelwright make some progress too...but i've heard he's not so good running routes and is a bit slower for WR. hopefully hes gonna work on that..he's still young
i just wonder why marcus smith didn't give much of an impact this season...is he a project? is he a bust? not ready yet? b/c i saw him make nice catches in the preseason and not a single in the regular season.

[Sizzle]

[quote name='#1 D' post='179479' date='Apr 12 2009, 07:10 PM']ya but...how many games did he start at WR?[/quote]
Opps i didn't mean harper i meant marcus smith number 81. I think justin harper at least hasn't gotten a fair shot.

[#1 D]

[quote name='Sizzle' post='179482' date='Apr 12 2009, 07:13 PM']Opps i didn't mean harper i meant marcus smith number 81. I think justin harper at least hasn't gotten a fair shot.[/quote]

lol yea its all good altho the only times i saw the ball thrown to marcus smith was vs the steelers, and they were the best defense last year...maybe that may not mean anything, but hopefully derrick mason can teach marcus some tips and hints...

[Samari]

I think we should target Kenny Britt in the draft. He is a speedy compliment to Clayton like DHB, but unlike DHB he is strong and runs very good routes. Better hands too. I think a tandem of Britt and Clayton for the future would be deadly.

[#1 D]

[quote name='Samari' post='179489' date='Apr 12 2009, 07:18 PM']I think we should target Kenny Britt in the draft. He is a speedy compliment to Clayton like DHB, but unlike DHB he is strong and runs very good routes. Better hands too. I think a tandem of Britt and Clayton for the future would be deadly.[/quote]

yea im likin wat i see from him (this is what i saw [url="http://rutgers.scout.com/a.z?s=183&p=8&c=1&nid=3653200"]http://rutgers.scout.com/a.z?s=183&p=8...amp;nid=3653200[/url]) If what they say is right, if he's versatile, then we can use him over the middle more and make him bulk up a bit. if he can bulk up and be 6-4, 210-215 pounds, that would be deadly imo.

[RoflDogs]

[quote name='#1 D' post='179494' date='Apr 12 2009, 07:22 PM']yea im likin wat i see from him (this is what i saw [url="http://rutgers.scout.com/a.z?s=183&p=8&c=1&nid=3653200"]http://rutgers.scout.com/a.z?s=183&p=8...amp;nid=3653200[/url]) If what they say is right, if he's versatile, then we can use him over the middle more and make him bulk up a bit. if he can bulk up and be 6-4, 210-215 pounds, that would be deadly imo.[/quote]


what the heck???

Scout just said Britt needs to improve his route running.......

uhhh.... I believe that is one of his strengths

[#1 D]

[quote name='RoflDogs' post='179496' date='Apr 12 2009, 07:36 PM']what the heck???

Scout just said Britt needs to improve his route running.......

uhhh.... I believe that is one of his strengths[/quote]

lol ya sometimes they put in b/s when they don't know much about the player...funny how that's what one of his "areas of improvements" were whereas in the paragraph it says "...he runs good routes..." lol

[Ozzsome]

im really excited about harper, he was the leading reciever for the hokies in his senior year

im a hokies fan and was really happy when the ravens were selecting harper last year in the draft

[Ravenskid2085]

I would like to see Ernie Wheelwright get some playing time, but then again he could be the second coming of Clarence Moore lol

[Girondoravens]

I'm gonna keep my eye on Justin Harper I think some potential to be a pretty good reciever for this team. And also sometimes the recievers selected in the later rounds are the ones who end up being pretty good. I think Marcus Smith could be good if he could catch a pass I don't think he caught any passes last year. Honestly one of these guys will have to step up because Derrick Mason probably has one good year left in him(if that) and Mark Clayton I think he's kinda shown us what kind of a player he is. Deep threat yes but he only caught 41 passes last year. But Justin Harper is a guy I'm keeping my eye on. Who knows he could end up a really good player down the road.

[Wacko4Zacko]

Wow...So um...Yeah....Well....Okay, so why are we drafting a WR? We have plenty of young guys, who should be given the opportunity to step up and be given there [i]"time to shine"[/i]

[AlaskanRavensFan]

Honestly we can't say much about any of them, because they haven't gotten any playing time. Smith played a little at the end of the season, but was primarly a special teamer. The reality is that we don't really know what we have yet and we won't until some of them get a chance to produce.

Part of the problem last year was that our pass protection suffered when Terry and Yanda went down. Not that Terry was dominant, but Wille was pretty new when he came in and I don't think he had quite learned all the protections. I have been watching last season's games all week and what I noticed was a lot of max protection. (generally means the tight ends and backs stay in to block) So essentially we had two people who could catch the ball on the given play. We were limited on offense last year because of injuries. Not only in the Oline, but also at TE and WR. Withought Quinn Syp and Demetrius our offensive options decreased significantly. I don't think Cam thought that Smith or any of the other WR's who were healthy were ready to play much. We became a run first team not only by design but by necessity since our passing, and pass protection options had dwindled. I don't think that Cam intended it to be that way throughout the season though. In the early games, especially prior to William's injury, there were many more spread formations. We were still balanced, but I don't think that we were able to attack with the passing game the way Cam and Harbs wanted to.

I would rather take one of the LB's with that pick. Maualuga, Laurinitis, English. If we are picking the best player available, then I think we may go that direction. As was said earlier DHB and Nicks may be gone.(Britt may be there, but I have a feeling the Giants will trade up to get him if they don't get B. Edwards from Cleveland) Even if they are there at 26 I'm not sure they are better than any of those three linebackers.

I understand the desire to draft one though. Last year we finally drafted the quarterback we've been looking for and fittingly we want to finally get that reciever too. Those are the two positions that we have consistently failed to address through the draft. So it makes sense that we want to right the wrongs of the Travis Taylors, Patrick Johnsons, Devard Darlings and Ron Johnsons or our draft past. I just don't want us to repeat those mistakes by picking a player cause of a position we need rather than taking a good player to add depth or push someone for a starting spot.

[Mahatma_Sloth]

wheelright to step up.... Clayton to start destroying backfields

also i would say the recieving corpswas waiting on flacco.... but he Destroys this year as well because he will start spreading his passes around more

[Mahatma_Sloth]

WE WILL NOT GO WR IN THE FIRST!!!!!! I think we are going to trade back for picks(because thats what DeCasta wants) and depending whos around early second we will either go LB/CB/OL/WR.... the only early round WR i like is nicks but depending on how the pieces come together i think there is way more tallent than WR at our pick(even if we stay at 26) we are goo for the timebeing at WR we only need hands and size emphasis on the hands..... REMEMBER WE, this year moreso than any in the past, GO BPA CUZ IT WORKS. WE DO NOT DRAFT(except for flacco) BY NEED WE DRAFT TALLENT

[bmore20]

i expect big things out of Harper. he has the skill set we need, just don't get hurt...

[neepo13]

[quote name='Sizzle' post='179472' date='Apr 12 2009, 07:04 PM']I don't know about you guys but Justin Harper had 6-8 games to prove himself and he had 0 catches and 1 personal foul.[/quote]

I though Harper was on the PS most of last year.

[#1 D]

[quote name='neepo13' post='179933' date='Apr 14 2009, 03:29 PM']I though Harper was on the PS most of last year.[/quote]

nah, he went to the IR in september 2nd...
[url="http://www.baltimoreravens.com/People/Players/Active/Justin_Harper.aspx"]http://www.baltimoreravens.com/People/Play...tin_Harper.aspx[/url]

[neepo13]

[quote name='#1 D' post='179943' date='Apr 14 2009, 03:41 PM']nah, he went to the IR in september 2nd...
[url="http://www.baltimoreravens.com/People/Players/Active/Justin_Harper.aspx"]http://www.baltimoreravens.com/People/Play...tin_Harper.aspx[/url][/quote]

But he didnt play last year? So, he hasnt a half of season to prove himself?

[BuckWilds]

I want to believe in those guys but I'm also of the mind we need starters - not guys to fill in occasionally. As soon as we start saying 'this guy would work in this scenario' we're lowering the bar too far. If they want to be a true NFL starter they need to earn it - not just do enough to make the squad. They need to be starters caliber to impress me at all.

[jezzy]

i would like to see harper and smith do something cuz with that kinda size with mason and clayton we could start running 4 wr sets and spreading the feild because i think our line if healthy will be among the best in the nfl so joe can do some damage with that cannon but we should draft de from gt micheal johnson cuz thats what we lacked the most other than wr is pressuring and actually sacking qbs and he could step right in and make an impact

[Wacko4Zacko]

Okay so our WR's are....

Derrick Mason
Mark Clayton
Demetrius Williams
Marcus Maxwell
Justin Harper
Marcus Smith
Ernie Wheelwright
Edward Williams
Eron Riley ( undrafted FA)

So now someone explain to me, why we need a WR? Unless were getting Anquan Boldin, I believe were good at the WR position.

[lowrider]

If D Williams, Mason and Clayton are all healthy we are going to have an underrated recieving corp

[Devastat1on]

[quote name='Wacko4Zacko' post='187579' date='Apr 27 2009, 03:01 PM']Okay so our WR's are....

Derrick Mason
Mark Clayton
Demetrius Williams
Marcus Maxwell
Justin Harper
Marcus Smith
Ernie Wheelwright
Edward Williams
Eron Riley ( undrafted FA)

So now someone explain to me, why we need a WR? Unless were getting Anquan Boldin, I believe were good at the WR position.[/quote]

What wide receivers do we currently have that have proved they can step up if Mason goes down? Thats why we need a wide receiver.. Clayton aside, the majority if not all of our WRs we've drafted are day 2 picks.. They may have shown a bit of potential, but not what we need if Mason goes down.. Eron Riley is a great pickup though.. I hope these guys prove me wrong