Nfl Network Anti-ravens ?

[ravenwildman]

OK...

I have tried to chill here and understand that as a Ravens fan, I may see favorable bias toward other teams by the NFL Network when none exists.

So I have carefully waited to let other teams be in the limelight that in no way did as well as the Ravens and dominate almost every program they show (one with a star on their helmet quickly comes to mind). Here the Steelers are the Super bowl champs so I can get over them as a center point of each show as an example of how a teams should look, hey respect. But...they don't seem to be as important either to the NFL Network as Dallas, Tampa, Atlanta, Miami and Indianapolis.

[b]enough is enough[/b]! OK guys..... tell me where I am wrong here, maybe I am too sensitive as a fan, but here is some of my pet peeves. Am I wrong?

The only games the Ravens have been in on Replay or otherwise are the loses to the Steelers

During the entire combine very little was said good (or said at all) about Flacco, you would think Matt Ryan was the Super bowl winning QB

The only thing that made the highlight of 2008 was Flacco's shocked look as he got sacked by Dallas!

No mention of two TD runs under 4 minutes (Dallas last game in Texas stadium)

How about the fake field goal in that game?? Would have been worth mention I think

The only mention of Flacco was to speculate a trade of him over the Cutler mess

They hyped the speculation over Dallas wanting Ray Lewis, (at least they gave Ray a short interview when he signed with the Ravens for 7 yrs)

They did have Derick Mason on the show but never asked him about the Ravens, only about other teams

Ravens can't seem to be in the 10 best (pick the subject) show, or team film sessions shows.

If we had a so-so season I would say well...ok, but I believe the Ravens played in the AFC Championship that should deserve better!

ok I said my piece, what do you guys think?

[kash96ravenstotalfan]

[quote name='ravenwildman' post='174527' date='Mar 30 2009, 08:44 PM']OK...

I have tried to chill here and understand that as a Ravens fan, I may see favorable bias toward other teams by the NFL Network when none exists.

So I have carefully waited to let other teams be in the limelight that in no way did as well as the Ravens and dominate almost every program they show (one with a star on their helmet quickly comes to mind). Here the Steelers are the Super bowl champs so I can get over them as a center point of each show as an example of how a teams should look, hey respect. But...they don't seem to be as important either to the NFL Network as Dallas, Tampa, Atlanta, Miami and Indianapolis.

[b]enough is enough[/b]! OK guys..... tell me where I am wrong here, maybe I am too sensitive as a fan, but here is some of my pet peeves. Am I wrong?

The only games the Ravens have been in on Replay or otherwise are the loses to the Steelers

During the entire combine very little was said good (or said at all) about Flacco, you would think Matt Ryan was the Super bowl winning QB

The only thing that made the highlight of 2008 was Flacco's shocked look as he got sacked by Dallas!

No mention of two TD runs under 4 minutes (Dallas last game in Texas stadium)

How about the fake field?? Would have been worth mention I think

The only mention of Flacco was to speculate a trade of him over the Cutler mess

They hype the speculation over Dallas wanting Ray Lewis, (at least they gave Ray a short interview when he signed with the Ravens for 7 yrs)

They did have Derick Mason on the show but never asked him about the Ravens, only about other teams

Ravens can't seem to be in the 10 best (pick the subject) show, or team film sessions shows.

If we had a so-so season I would say well...ok, but I believe the Ravens played in the AFC Championship that should deserve better!

ok I said my piece, what do you guys think?[/quote]
Good post. I agree with all of your points. I've yet to figure out why the Ravens get no respect from the national media. Everyone says we have a small, local fanbase. But our accomplishments as a team should warrant some press. Bottom line - I don't care what the media says, or not says about us, I love the Ravens and couldn't care less about the media.

[BloodRaven]

Power of perception IMHO.

[CP`C-Pain`CP]

Our fanbase may be small but I think we have one of the greatest and loyal fanbases in the league. Screw the media, We don't need them to be good on the gridiron.

[Reddawn36]

[quote name='CP`C-Pain`CP' post='174546' date='Mar 30 2009, 09:21 PM']Our fanbase may be small but I think we have one of the greatest and loyal fanbases in the league. Screw the media, We don't need them to be good on the gridiron.[/quote]

helps to have them to be able to see some games though haha

[thewarden86]

I think it's a little of your being over sensitive, but also with some legitimacy to your claim. I think the best games played last year are against us. They always are bruising battles (almost always close ones) and unfortunately for you guys, the Steelers won them this year. Doesn't make them any less great to watch for fans outside B-more and Pitt though.

The Cowboys are like a sorry reality show. Let them talk about the Cowboys. No news out of the Ravens facility is good news. And like you said, the only reason the Steelers are getting mentioned is because they won the SB. Look at the coverage before the SB: Now maybe [b]I[/b] am being a bias/over sensitive fan but it appeared to me that the Cinderella Cards with Larry Fitzgerald [i]this[/i] and Kurt Warner [i]that[/i] dominated the media. Every time I turned on the NFL Network I saw the Red and White of a 9-7 team and vaguely a mention of the 12-4 Steelers.

From what I've learned, it's almost always better when they are [u]not[/u] talking about you.

[Ravenstilldeath]

There are so many Ravens fans that are loyal to the end, I honestly couldnt care less what the NFL Network covers. Everyone wants to hear about the glamour children of the league, like the Cowboys or the Steelers. The fact that we get so little attention from them only adds fuel to my fire to humiliate them and eat their own words, the greatest gift of all from a win is to hush the nay-sayers and god knows we've heard a lot of it from multiple sources.

But, whatever media attention we may or may not get we have Flacco at the helm, a remarkable D, and incredible leadership on and off of the field and as a die hard Ravens fan, thats all that matters to me. Let the NFL network cover T.O. everytime he takes a s***, we'll still be here and still playing the hard-nosed football we've all come to know and love.

[theFRANCHISE]

Until the Ravens start winning as consistently as the Colts or start accumulating the star power that Dallas has, don't expect any of this to change any time soon.

I know the media was quick to hop onto the Browns' bandwagon when they went 10-6, but that lasted all of two months before everyone was back to overlooking Cleveland as they turned out to be pretenders. The Ravens, meanwhile, hadn't won a playoff game since 2001 up until this past season, so there was no reason for the media to respect the team at all.

Last season notwithstanding, there is still no reason for the media to respect the Ravens; until Baltimore does what the Colts and Patriots do on a regular basis, year-in and year-out, there is no reason to expect the type of media coverage they get.

Also, the Ravens are a young franchise, so of course no one will give the team any credit. Why not ask Panthers or Jaguars fans how [i]they[/i] feel when [i]their[/i] team does well but gets overlooked?

[theFRANCHISE]

[quote name='ravenwildman' post='174527' date='Mar 30 2009, 08:44 PM'] The only games the Ravens have been in on Replay or otherwise are the loses to the Steelers

During the entire combine very little was said good (or said at all) about Flacco, you would think Matt Ryan was the Super bowl winning QB

The only thing that made the highlight of 2008 was Flacco's shocked look as he got sacked by Dallas!

No mention of two TD runs under 4 minutes (Dallas last game in Texas stadium)

How about the fake field goal in that game?? Would have been worth mention I think

The only mention of Flacco was to speculate a trade of him over the Cutler mess

They hyped the speculation over Dallas wanting Ray Lewis, (at least they gave Ray a short interview when he signed with the Ravens for 7 yrs)

They did have Derick Mason on the show but never asked him about the Ravens, only about other teams

Ravens can't seem to be in the 10 best (pick the subject) show, or team film sessions shows.[/quote]
To be fair, the NFL Network gives the Ravens more love than any of the other national networks. To hit on your points, though:

- The Ravens' NFL Replay games are only of the Steelers games because those were the most entertaining for the public at-large. Not only that, but NFL Replay as a show has only been around since 2006-ish, and they can only pick so many games per week, so there are probably other teams that have as big (if not bigger) of a gripe as some of us do.

- Of course Matt Ryan will get more hype; he was the higher draft pick and came out of the bigger school. That's just the way things work.

- The two TD runs under 4 minutes isn't really a mind-blowing feat, regardless of the fact that it was the first (and last) time it happened at Texas Stadium. It's happened in other games (sometimes even faster), so it's not that impressive, to be honest.

- The fake field goal probably didn't get a mention because it only went for a first down and not a TD. Touchdowns are always more exciting to replay than first downs if you're someone who's editing game footage for a highlight reel; you can't show a first down unless you have audio to back it up, since the marker isn't shown on the footage shot on fancier cameras, so people wouldn't know it was a first down just by LOOKING at the play.

- They asked Derrick Mason more questions about other teams because it was a relatively busy news day when he was a guest on NFL Total Access.

- The Ravens rarely make it onto the Top 10 shows or Film Session episodes because we're a young franchise, plain and simple; not much history yet, and only so many good seasons thus far.

[#23]

WATCH MASN.

[Harlemknight]

I am new, and I agree with you 100%. I say f'em. F'em all. We ( the Ravens and the Fans) don't need the hating A$$ media. We got each other.

[Moderator 2]

That is why I don't watch NFLN in the off season, I get really pissed off.

[Ravensfan23]

[quote name='theFRANCHISE' post='174563' date='Mar 30 2009, 09:45 PM']To be fair, the NFL Network gives the Ravens more love than any of the other national networks. To hit on your points, though:

[b]- The Ravens' NFL Replay games are only of the Steelers games because those were the most entertaining for the public at-large. Not only that, but NFL Replay as a show has only been around since 2006-ish, and they can only pick so many games per week, so there are probably other teams that have as big (if not bigger) of a gripe as some of us do[/b].

- Of course Matt Ryan will get more hype; he was the higher draft pick and came out of the bigger school. That's just the way things work.

- The two TD runs under 4 minutes isn't really a mind-blowing feat, regardless of the fact that it was the first (and last) time it happened at Texas Stadium. It's happened in other games (sometimes even faster), so it's not that impressive, to be honest.

- The fake field goal probably didn't get a mention because it only went for a first down and not a TD. Touchdowns are always more exciting to replay than first downs if you're someone who's editing game footage for a highlight reel; you can't show a first down unless you have audio to back it up, since the marker isn't shown on the footage shot on fancier cameras, so people wouldn't know it was a first down just by LOOKING at the play.

- They asked Derrick Mason more questions about other teams because it was a relatively busy news day when he was a guest on NFL Total Access.

- The Ravens rarely make it onto the Top 10 shows or Film Session episodes because we're a young franchise, plain and simple; not much history yet, and only so many good seasons thus far.[/quote]


The Reason why the only NFL Replay game to be shown is a lost to the Steelers is because they are doing the show by weeks. The Ravens pretty much dominated both the Bengals and Brown so those games weren't worth a replay. In week 4 that MNF game was great(even tho we lost), so it was replayed. I bet that the Titans game will be played next Sunday. If u stick with the program throughtout the whole offseason, u will probably see Dal Wash and Cle game 2 when we came from 14 down. I would assume that all of the Playoff games will be Replayed.

As for the whole Flacco thing. He has gotten some attention, mainly because the NFL Network are the only ones who care about the Diet Pepsi Rookie of the Year. I've heard them compare guys like Josh Freeman compared to Flacco, or if any of those QBs could do what Joe did.

I'm really not one to get into the whole national exposure, i really don't care. When we were winning in the playoffs we go all the exposure i needed. In a few weeks you will be hearing alot about the Ravens as they all tend to kiss Ozzie's ****** during Draft time.

Most times Teams that stay in the national limelight have bad reasonings for being their. Like Burgress going to Court(do u think NYG wants that exposure), TO missing his first camp with his new team( i don't think that is what BUF had in mind). Chad Johnson missing his team's camp(who cares) Cutler wanting out of Den(i'm sure Harbaugh is glad he is not in McDaniels' shoes). Or the Ravens could be coming off a 0-16 season and talks of the #1 pick(i never want that type of exposure).

All i'm saying is that this time of year all press is not good press. I would much rather things stay queit around the Cassel, expect for the occasional FA signing or vist. The biggest story to come out of Baltimore this offseason was the whole Ray Lewis thing and look how overblown that was.

I know it is hard to watch these shows and see them talkin about every other team, but how many times have u seen them talk about the Ravens, only to feel like they had no clue of what they were talkin about. Like everyone jumping on the ILB bangwagon just because we lost Bart. However no one seems to know that the Ravens are really high on Gooden and other young LBs. Or how about last year when JO retired, everyone in the National media jumped on the LT in the 1st round bandwagon, however you never heard about the promising young LT in Jared Gaither.

I used to be that guy that wanted the Ravens to be all over the TV. After a big win i turned into the highlight shows and looked for clips of the game, or i used to pay a lot of attention to what the so called experts opinions of us was. Then i started to realize that many of the Fans that post on this message board are more informed then some of those guys.

Most of those guys had favorite teams growing up and they still root for them to do well. Others have teams that they played for that they show favorites to. Look at guys like Q, Rod, Shannon, Moose, Dilfer, and even Deion, all of those guys seem to have strong opinions of the Ravens good or bad, and most times they really give good insight on the Ravens.

Another thing is that the NFL is a offense and QB driven league. For many years the Ravens have been all about Defense and that is not appealing to many. I think the Ravens will start to put up some great offensive numbers this year and u will start to see all the man crushes and ****** kissing from the media.

I can go on and on all night about this, so i guess i'm not as over it as i thought lol. However it is really not important the media will favor teams with long histories and teams with offensive super stars. The Ravens are only teenagers to the NFL and i think we just found that offensive star.

[cdog2]

Just waite until next season is over and we go to and win a playoff game or two 3 hopefully they wont be able to dis us anymore!!

[ravenwildman]

[quote name='theFRANCHISE' post='174559' date='Mar 30 2009, 09:38 PM']Until the Ravens start winning as consistently as the Colts or start accumulating the star power that Dallas has, don't expect any of this to change any time soon.

I know the media was quick to hop onto the Browns' bandwagon when they went 10-6, but that lasted all of two months before everyone was back to overlooking Cleveland as they turned out to be pretenders. The Ravens, meanwhile, hadn't won a playoff game since 2001 up until this past season, so there was no reason for the media to respect the team at all.

Last season notwithstanding, there is still no reason for the media to respect the Ravens; until Baltimore does what the Colts and Patriots do on a regular basis, year-in and year-out, there is no reason to expect the type of media coverage they get.

Also, the Ravens are a young franchise, so of course no one will give the team any credit. Why not ask Panthers or Jaguars fans how [i]they[/i] feel when [i]their[/i] team does well but gets overlooked?[/quote]

Ok I will buy some of your opinion..but where does Matt Ryan and the Falcons figure into this equation?

Falcons have been hardly stellar these last few years , and the whole Michael Vic drama has not show well for Atlanta or the NFL, but almost every commercial and half the combine discussion is about...Matt Ryan

Why not Flacco?

[#23]

I agree with THE FRANCHISE on his point of "Also, the Ravens are a young franchise, so of course no one will give the team any credit. Why not ask Panthers or Jaguars fans how they feel when their team does well but gets overlooked? "

Dallas, as one of you mentioned, is filled with super stars and is a terrible reality tv show in itself, but at the same time they have been around since 1960, won 5 Superbowl(2nd most) and 10 NFC championships. And, for as long as I can remember, they have been known as

[ravens205255]

I know what you mean! I have been feeling the same way for a long time now..... I feel they don't give the Ravens any respect and none of the publicity they should be getting..... o well maybe it's a good thing you know, fly under the radar and suprise EVERYONE next season!

[Reddawn36]

[quote name='#23' post='174585' date='Mar 30 2009, 11:18 PM']I agree with THE FRANCHISE on his point of "Also, the Ravens are a young franchise, so of course no one will give the team any credit. Why not ask Panthers or Jaguars fans how they feel when their team does well but gets overlooked? "

Dallas, as one of you mentioned, is filled with super stars and is a terrible reality tv show in itself, but at the same time they have been around since 1960, won 5 Superbowl(2nd most) and 10 NFC championships. And, for as long as I can remember, they have been known as

[ravenwildman]

[quote name='theFRANCHISE' post='174563' date='Mar 30 2009, 09:45 PM']To be fair, the NFL Network gives the Ravens more love than any of the other national networks. To hit on your points, though:

- The Ravens' NFL Replay games are only of the Steelers games because those were the most entertaining for the public at-large. Not only that, but NFL Replay as a show has only been around since 2006-ish, and they can only pick so many games per week, so there are probably other teams that have as big (if not bigger) of a gripe as some of us do.

- Of course Matt Ryan will get more hype; he was the higher draft pick and came out of the bigger school. That's just the way things work.

- The two TD runs under 4 minutes isn't really a mind-blowing feat, regardless of the fact that it was the first (and last) time it happened at Texas Stadium. It's happened in other games (sometimes even faster), so it's not that impressive, to be honest.

- The fake field goal probably didn't get a mention because it only went for a first down and not a TD. Touchdowns are always more exciting to replay than first downs if you're someone who's editing game footage for a highlight reel; you can't show a first down unless you have audio to back it up, since the marker isn't shown on the footage shot on fancier cameras, so people wouldn't know it was a first down just by LOOKING at the play.

- They asked Derrick Mason more questions about other teams because it was a relatively busy news day when he was a guest on NFL Total Access.

- The Ravens rarely make it onto the Top 10 shows or Film Session episodes because we're a young franchise, plain and simple; not much history yet, and only so many good seasons thus far.[/quote]


So...let me get this right

You say because Matt Ryan is a rich kid its OK to highlight him and not the guy who did better

That 2 consecutive 70 (+) plus touchdown runs in the last 4 minutes of the game was not that spectacular, I'm sorry I miss the other games that happened in, who played who in what week was that? Actually what year was that?

When was the last fake field goal tried by an NFL team? That resulted in a touchdown two plays later by the way

So Derick Mason was not asked about the Ravens because it was a busy day....hummmm OK

The Ravens are young so they rarely make it into the 10 best/film session/other shows....Ravens began 1996....13 years ago...A Superbowl ring later....AFC Playoffs...so at what, 20 years.... 30?

I would like to see an equal and appropriate recognition for the Ravens according to last year's performance, not ten years ago.... ..at least some respect for them before I die anyway

Sorry my friend I respect your opinion....but I disagree

[theFRANCHISE]

[quote name='ravenwildman' post='174584' date='Mar 30 2009, 11:18 PM']Ok I will buy some of your opinion..but where does Matt Ryan and the Falcons figure into this equation?

Falcons have been hardly stellar these last few years , and the whole Michael Vic drama has not show well for Atlanta or the NFL, but almost every commercial and half the combine discussion is about...Matt Ryan

Why not Flacco?[/quote]
Because no one outside of Delaware cares about the University of Delaware. Believe me, I know from personal experience; I go there. They've hyped up Matt Ryan because he took a team that needed MUCH MORE work than the Ravens did, and rebuilt it after a dismal situation from which most people thought there was no coming back. At least Joe Flacco had the benefit of the Ravens D and the Three-Headed Monster and Derrick Mason; Matt Ryan only had Michael Turner and Roddy White.

And to hit on the other points in your second response that I won't quote (because it'd just be a huge post that'd be hard to read for everyone):

- I never said it was OK to highlight Matt Ryan because he's a "rich kid" or anything to that effect. They just highlight Matt Ryan because he came from the bigger school and found comparable success; I never said it was right, but that's the way things work. Oh well.

- I consider those two TD runs to be "unimpressive" because: 1) the momentum was pretty much riding in the Ravens' favor after that first run; 2) Dallas didn't really show up that night, so if it was a much more competitive game, then OK; and 3) if the game hadn't taken on the historic context that it did, those two runs would've gone largely unnoticed anyway. And to be perfectly honest, other than us Ravens fans (and maybe Dallas fans), will the rest of the NFL's fans remember those runs after next season?

- The last fake FG tried by an NFL team was the New Orleans Saints, I believe, earlier this season (maybe it was last year). And there've been a couple others over the past five years that I can't exactly recall, but it's not as rare of a play as you'd think; it just doesn't get much recognition because it rarely works, and when it does, the play itself never goes for a TD.

- Derrick Mason was a guest during a busy day in free agency; the media operates in whatever will be a bigger issue of debate, and let's face it, the upcoming season is a hotter topic during free agency than what already happened last season. And seeing as how Mason was lobbying for a contract extension at the time, maybe he didn't want to talk about the Ravens until later? We don't know.

- Note that most of those selections on those NFL's Top 10 shows have older players/achievements/events/whatever from before the '90s. And to be honest, there were only five GOOD seasons in Ravens history: 2000, 2001, 2003, 2006, and 2008. Because the Film Session shows aren't that up-to-date, you will rarely find anything newer than the 2004 season on the Ravens. Note that you never see anything about the Panthers or the Jaguars on those Film Session shows, neither -- and they've been around about as long as the Ravens have.

As someone who is familiar with the media's dealings firsthand (and I'm not trying to use my personal experience as any sort of mighter-than-thou authority, so don't take it the wrong way), the media will only go with what's familiar, what's hot, and what's controversial. The Steelers are what's familiar. The Falcons are what's hot. The Cowboys are what's controversial. There's no such thing as being fair in the media, so I'm sorry, but it's just something you'll have to accept as a fan because we control nothing as fans.

[Reddawn36]

[quote name='ravenwildman' post='174598' date='Mar 30 2009, 11:53 PM']The Ravens are young so they rarely make it into the 10 best/film session/other shows....Ravens began 1996....13 years ago...A Superbowl ring later....AFC Playoffs...so at what, 20 years.... 30? [/quote]


didn't they have a top 10 ravens plays or something?

[Reddawn36]

nevermind, found the answer
[url="http://www.nfl.com/videos?videoId=09000d5d80f1fd4e"]http://www.nfl.com/videos?videoId=09000d5d80f1fd4e[/url]

[theFRANCHISE]

[quote name='Reddawn36' post='174602' date='Mar 31 2009, 12:28 AM']didn't they have a top 10 ravens plays or something?[/quote]
That was a segment for NFL Total Access. I believe he's referring to the NFL's Top 10 shows (y'know, Top 10 Records That Will Never Be Broken; Top 10 Opening Day Performances; those hour-long shows. At least that's what [i]I've[/i] been referring to).

[Reddawn36]

[quote name='theFRANCHISE' post='174605' date='Mar 31 2009, 12:30 AM']That was a segment for NFL Total Access. I believe he's referring to the NFL's Top 10 shows (y'know, Top 10 Records That Will Never Be Broken; Top 10 Opening Day Performances; those hour-long shows. At least that's what [i]I've[/i] been referring to).[/quote]

oh, ok, i thought he was talking about any of the top 10's, we'll if that's the case ray lewis cracked the top 10 all time best LB's

[Reddawn36]

plus aren't most of those TOP 10 (whatever the subject is) way before the ravens time.... i mean there is a few here and there presently, but they are all around what seems to be when singletary played

[shaikh015]

[quote name='theFRANCHISE' post='174563' date='Mar 30 2009, 08:45 PM']To be fair, the NFL Network gives the Ravens more love than any of the other national networks. To hit on your points, though:

- The Ravens' NFL Replay games are only of the Steelers games because those were the most entertaining for the public at-large. Not only that, but NFL Replay as a show has only been around since 2006-ish, and they can only pick so many games per week, so there are probably other teams that have as big (if not bigger) of a gripe as some of us do.

- Of course Matt Ryan will get more hype; he was the higher draft pick and came out of the bigger school. That's just the way things work.

- [b]The two TD runs under 4 minutes isn't really a mind-blowing feat, regardless of the fact that it was the first (and last) time it happened at Texas Stadium. It's happened in other games (sometimes even faster), so it's not that impressive, to be honest.[/b]
- The fake field goal probably didn't get a mention because it only went for a first down and not a TD. Touchdowns are always more exciting to replay than first downs if you're someone who's editing game footage for a highlight reel; you can't show a first down unless you have audio to back it up, since the marker isn't shown on the footage shot on fancier cameras, so people wouldn't know it was a first down just by LOOKING at the play.

- They asked Derrick Mason more questions about other teams because it was a relatively busy news day when he was a guest on NFL Total Access.

- The Ravens rarely make it onto the Top 10 shows or Film Session episodes because we're a young franchise, plain and simple; not much history yet, and only so many good seasons thus far.[/quote]

What other games has the under 4 min 2 td runs enlighten me on this..

[Reddawn36]

[quote name='shaikh015' post='174629' date='Mar 31 2009, 02:23 AM']What other games has the under 4 min 2 td runs enlighten me on this..[/quote]

no 2 games are the same kind sir, all will have their share of big plays, some will have amazing runs, some will be record breakers, some will be amazing catches, or returns, I mean i'm not going to lie, i hate the cowboys so i absoloutely enjoyed watching us stomp over them w/ those two runs, but neither one had that special feeling you get when you see a spectacular play i guess you could say, if you watch any of the devin hester games where he returns stuff for TD's thats the feeling i'm talking about, but those 2 runs were nothing short of amazing, and the fact they were back to back

[Raven70]

[quote name='kash96ravenstotalfan' post='174532' date='Mar 31 2009, 02:50 AM']Good post. I agree with all of your points. I've yet to figure out why the Ravens get no respect from the national media. [b]Everyone says we have a small, local fanbase. [/b] But our accomplishments as a team should warrant some press. Bottom line - I don't care what the media says, or not says about us, I love the Ravens and couldn't care less about the media.[/quote]

If they say this try to send them some messages of mine

[Slim]

i hate Jamie Dukes, he's a pure Ravens Hater !!! Warren Sapp, Terrell Davis, and Rod are great ! especially Warren but the rest is shhhh !

[SteelersProphet]

[quote name='shaikh015' post='174629' date='Mar 31 2009, 02:23 AM']What other games has the under 4 min 2 td runs enlighten me on this..[/quote]

well i dont know about runs......but in the steelers v cowboys game we scored two touchdowns in 42 seconds i think it was