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Trade For Braylon Edwards

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since its been reported that braylon edwards in on the trading block and the browns asked the giants for a 2nd, 5th, and steve smith. why not give them a 2nd, 5th and mason. edwards has more upside
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[quote name='Canes21' post='172023' date='Mar 23 2009, 07:20 PM']since its been reported that braylon edwards in on the trading block and the browns asked the giants for a 2nd, 5th, and steve smith. why not give them a 2nd, 5th and mason. edwards has more upside[/quote]

because mason is like ray lewis on defense
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[quote name='Reddawn36' post='172029' date='Mar 23 2009, 07:31 PM']because mason is like ray lewis on defense[/quote]


not at all
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[quote name='Canes21' post='172031' date='Mar 23 2009, 07:33 PM']not at all[/quote]
Wrong. He may not be rah rah, but he leads by example, and is extremely productive at what he does. Hes the elder statesman and has the respect of the offensive players. He is the only reliable receiving option from year to year. A 2nd and a 5th yes but Mason, no thanks
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[quote name='Canes21' post='172031' date='Mar 23 2009, 07:33 PM']not at all[/quote]

he's the leader on the offense... what is edwards.... more inconsistency than clayton
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edwards has way more talent then mason. mason will only be a raven for one more year, might as well cash in on him now.
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[quote name='Canes21' post='172023' date='Mar 23 2009, 07:20 PM']since its been reported that braylon edwards in on the trading block and the browns asked the giants for a 2nd, 5th, and steve smith. why not give them a 2nd, 5th and mason. edwards has more upside[/quote]

Steve Smith from the Giant's is a lot younger than Mason. I'm sure the Brown's would not trade Edward's to a division rival and I know they do not want a 35 year old WR. :huh:
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Yea I personally don't like trading within the division. I would hate to see the Browns use those draft picks to get some good players and I wouldn't want Mason to be on a team in the AFC North. I still think Mason is a very good receiver and should be our number 1 next year. Edwards would become a hated player here if he drops balls like he does in Cleveland.
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were not gonna be likeing this if it happens, when masons catching a td to beat us and edwards is dropping wide open passes to the endzone.

Remember the game in cleveland from this year?
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Derrick Mason has been the offensive glue ever since he joined the Ravens. He's been the only consistently good player for us, look back on his stats from 2005 to now, he's set numerous team records. Beyond that, he's the leader of our offense and an unquestioned team player. Playing with his bum shoulder showed that he's determined to see this team succeed and he realizes he is a part of it. He could have just as easily slid on IR and still collected his checks, but he stuck it out a proved he's a true Raven and earned a ton of respect.

He's got great hands, runs tremendous routes, and is the only WR we have that can get consistent separation. He's shown no signs of slowing down, even though he's 35. Trading him would be a huge mistake on the Ravens' part.
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[quote name='Canes21' post='172034' date='Mar 23 2009, 07:41 PM']edwards has way more talent then mason. mason will only be a raven for one more year, might as well cash in on him now.[/quote]
Clayton has more talent than Mason also. He just doesn't know how to use it.


So you want to trade a 2nd and a 5th and our best receiver for the receiver that led the NFL in drops...?? And whys that???
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[quote name='Canes21' post='172023' date='Mar 23 2009, 07:20 PM']since its been reported that braylon edwards in on the trading block and the browns asked the giants for a 2nd, 5th, and steve smith. why not give them a 2nd, 5th and mason. edwards has more upside[/quote]
Edwards is a great playmaker, but His hands are inconsistant. Mason is as consistant as they get, and we need Him here more then anyone on offense because of His third down catching ability.

a 2nd and 5th, plus Figures or D. Williams then its a done deal IMO.
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it doesnt really matter you can substitue clayton in that deal with mason, i just mentioned mason becuz hes better. all im sayin is heres an opportunity to grab an elite reciever. who cares if he lead the league in dropped passes, he had one bad year. hes a monster on the field.
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if... this were a trade, i would say a 4th and a conditional pick.... but the odds of it happening w/in the division are slim...... the odds of it happening with us..... even slimmer
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[quote name='Canes21' post='172116' date='Mar 23 2009, 10:06 PM']it doesnt really matter you can substitue clayton in that deal with mason, i just mentioned mason becuz hes better. all im sayin is heres an opportunity to grab an elite reciever. who cares if he lead the league in dropped passes, [b]he had one bad year[/b]. hes a monster on the field.[/quote]

He's also only had one good year.. I wouldn't call him [i]"elite"[/i]
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[quote name='berad' post='172123' date='Mar 23 2009, 10:25 PM']He's also only had one good year.. I wouldn't call him [i]"elite"[/i][/quote]

But with alldue respect.. He plays for the "stains".

And in the only year they had somewhat stablity at QB, He had a 1200 yard and 16 TD season. I can see why we shouldent call Him "elite". But just figure He would be Elite with a stable team I would think.
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[quote name='Canes21' post='172023' date='Mar 23 2009, 07:20 PM']since its been reported that braylon edwards in on the trading block and the browns asked the giants for a 2nd, 5th, and steve smith. why not give them a 2nd, 5th and mason. edwards has more upside[/quote]
because edwards sucks. guys has everything you might be looking for except the most important thing - hands. clayton, even dem williams has better hands. i mean we drafted figurs because he broke records at the combine with his speed but what the use, he can't catch the ball. difference is, edwards would get thrown to cuz he is edwards but drop like half his passes, whats the point, we could use that 2nd round pick on someone who could become a pro bowler instead.
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How many passes were thrown to Yamon last season? I just remember the one in double coverage he caught for a touch down.
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[quote name='Canes21' post='172023' date='Mar 23 2009, 07:20 PM']since its been reported that braylon edwards in on the trading block and the browns asked the giants for a 2nd, 5th, and steve smith. why not give them a 2nd, 5th and mason. edwards has more upside[/quote]

I don't really see trading Mason as an option. Edwards may be younger but Mason is still playing at a high level...I think he deserves the extension he's been asking for, and if we are smart after the draft and all our moves in free agency are done, Ozzie will give it to him. Maybe its just my "sentimental value" when it comes to players but I feel like being loyal to our players who have done amazing things for us are more rewarding than trading for players from another team (within our division at that). Could you imagine Ed Reed intercepting a ball mean't for Mason, thrown by Brady Quinn or Derek Anderson? no thanks.
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[quote name='justifythegame' post='172292' date='Mar 24 2009, 01:21 PM']because edwards sucks. guys has everything you might be looking for except the most important thing - hands. clayton, even dem williams has better hands. i mean we drafted figurs because he broke records at the combine with his speed but what the use, he can't catch the ball. difference is, edwards would get thrown to cuz he is edwards but drop like half his passes, whats the point, we could use that 2nd round pick on someone who could become a pro bowler instead.[/quote]

We drafted figures for Kickoffs and punt return skill's alone. Not because He is a all-pro reciever. Figure's was a beast then all of a sudden He became shy to get hit.

Figured I'd throw that out there since alot of people are compairing Him also with DHB. Dont forget alot of people was also making the compairison of us drafting Flacco for His big arm, just like Kyle Boller..
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[quote name='Mishel' post='172424' date='Mar 24 2009, 08:55 PM']I don't really see trading Mason as an option. Edwards may be younger but Mason is still playing at a high level...I think he deserves the extension he's been asking for, and if we are smart after the draft and all our moves in free agency are done, Ozzie will give it to him. Maybe its just my "sentimental value" when it comes to players but I feel like being loyal to our players who have done amazing things for us are more rewarding than trading for players from another team (within our division at that). Could you imagine Ed Reed intercepting a ball mean't for Mason, thrown by Brady Quinn or Derek Anderson? no thanks.[/quote]
haha I agree. The Brown stain's would probally be the first to grab Mason up. They seem to take all our released players.
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[quote name='Canes21' post='172034' date='Mar 23 2009, 07:41 PM']edwards has way more talent then mason. mason will only be a raven for one more year, might as well cash in on him now.[/quote]

They're asking too much for Edwards. He's not even close to being worth a 2nd, a 5th and Mason. That's 2 years of productivity, guaranteed, plus two potentially good players. For fumble fingers? Nah.
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[quote name='berad' post='172059' date='Mar 23 2009, 08:12 PM']Derrick Mason has been the offensive glue ever since he joined the Ravens. He's been the only consistently good player for us, look back on his stats from 2005 to now, he's set numerous team records. Beyond that, he's the leader of our offense and an unquestioned team player. Playing with his bum shoulder showed that he's determined to see this team succeed and he realizes he is a part of it. He could have just as easily slid on IR and still collected his checks, but he stuck it out a proved he's a true Raven and earned a ton of respect.

He's got great hands, runs tremendous routes, and is the only WR we have that can get consistent separation. He's shown no signs of slowing down, even though he's 35. Trading him would be a huge mistake on the Ravens' part.[/quote]
I totally agree with your post. Mase is a warrior who plays through injury. He is also Joe's "go to" receiver, at least last season. He has my total respect as a true team player and I agree that he is the proven leader of our offense. We should re-sign him. I believe that he, like Ray Ray, deserves to retire a Raven.
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If you were GUARANTEED that Edwards would regain his star WR form, I still wouldn't make the trade. I don't like pouring that kind of money into a 2nd tier WR. And, by the way, no one can make that guarantee.

Mason, though old, comes relatively cheap and he brings good production and great leadership/toughness with very high consistency in both areas. If you're going to trade away a guy like Mase as well as take on a major WR contract, you have to get a sure thing in return. Braylon Edwards is very far from a sure thing. When you throw draft picks on top of that, the deal becomes that much more unreasonable.
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