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The Ravens Requested No Prime-time Game In Pitts

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I value and appreciate all your opinions and i definately see where everyone is coming from!! I agree with you all to a point but i'm trying to see the positive side in facing and beating 'em in the opening game :D!!

It's a pipe dream anyway because it aint happening but we all can dream ;)
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Holy crap people! I thought we were all fans here. How come everyone thinks we are going to lose this game? We aren't playing the world all stars, its the friggin Stealers! There is no reason we can't win this game.

That being said, I think this is a bad idea because I don't think we should be playing such a huge impact game both physically and emotionally in the first week. Someone almost always gets hurt on both sides in this game, and to start the season with such a huge game is unnecessary. Plus the home field advantage for pittsburgh on that night is going to be even more than usual with the Super Bowl stuff and the rings and all that. I see no reason any team would want to go into that on the first night.

But.... If we go, we will win!
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I'm glad that we didnt start the season in Pitts.... although we get more injuries later in the year the Ravens usually start out kind of slow. Plus with the addition of alot of new starters we may need a game or

two to make sure we got everything down.

Than again the Steelers should get the match up [i]if [/i]they [b]dont[/b] agree with us just because after all they did win the Super Bowl and who are we to pick our games, it should be up to the NFL and no

team should be able to switch the games to their needs.
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As long as the Ravens' home game against the Steelers is nationally televised, I got no problem with this. I don't fear the Steelers, bring 'em on.
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[quote name='theFRANCHISE' post='171021' date='Mar 21 2009, 12:04 AM']I appreciate the optimism. But, superstition or no superstition, an 0-1 start isn't good for a young team; the first meaningful game ending in a loss isn't exactly the best motivation for a group of young players who have high hopes.

Granted, they're bound to take a loss eventually, but it shouldn't have to be to the defending Super Bowl champions (a divisional rival, no less), on the road, in a hostile environment, with the nation watching, on a night with a coronation-like atmosphere.

It reeks of the Monday night game from two years ago, regardless of the fact that this team is better now (on paper) than it was then.[/quote]

I'm not sure I buy that it would crush them as players are used to rebounding from past experiences, but it's never good to have to play two road games as an 0-2 start means that you have to go 11-3 from there on out. It's not impossible as we went 11-3 after three straight losses, which also shows the resiliency of players, but you never want to have to put yourself in that kind of a situation.
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[quote name='BmoreRav' post='171028' date='Mar 21 2009, 12:16 AM']I value and appreciate all your opinions and i definately see where everyone is coming from!! I agree with you all to a point but i'm trying to see the positive side in facing and beating 'em in the opening game :D!!

It's a pipe dream anyway because it aint happening but we all can dream ;)[/quote]


In the AFC game, the sqealers beat us legit. In the other tow, it could've gone either way. The way I see it is that we essentially beat ourselves in the first game with Jarrett's PF. In the second we held them off until that crappy TD call. There is really no way he should've [i]ever [/i]got that.

We should've beat then last year and this year we'll be healthier with a better O. Beating the ketchup girls is completely possible and far from a pipe dream.
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[quote name='Ravnet' post='170834' date='Mar 20 2009, 03:26 PM']It wouldn't make much sense for the Ravens to open their season with another loss. We're one of the better team in the league, but playing in Pittsburgh at night is just a death trap.

Why don't they come to our place once in a while on Monday night?[/quote]

This is a bunch of bull crap!!!! Last season the first game vs the steelers in Pits. the Baltimore Raven's shut the steeler's down for almost the entire game. Heinz field was as quiet as a library. A few bad plays caused us to lose that game, we are not going to get anything extra for the effort with out a win but we dominated that game only to lose. I would LOVE to open the season on Heinz Field. You can not run from the enemy! :angry:

[size=5]If you think we are going to lose before the game has even been set maybe you should be a steelers fan! :huh: :blink: :wacko: [/size]
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[quote name='Marc2k6' post='171104' date='Mar 21 2009, 09:42 AM']This is a bunch of bull crap!!!! Last season the first game vs the steelers in Pits. the Baltimore Raven's shut the steeler's down for almost the entire game. Heinz field was as quiet as a library. A few bad plays caused us to lose that game, we are not going to get anything extra for the effort with out a win but we dominated that game only to lose. I would LOVE to open the season on Heinz Field. You can not run from the enemy! :angry:

[size=5]If you think we are going to lose before the game has even been set maybe you should be a steelers fan! :huh: :blink: :wacko: [/size][/quote]
i agree with you 100%. with an inexperienced joe fumbling the ball that gave them the game pretty much. i hope they work on that with joe. i know a quarterback is wide open to fumbling but i would like to see less of those from joe this year.
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[quote name='plesiosaur' post='171101' date='Mar 21 2009, 01:30 PM']In the AFC game, the sqealers beat us legit. In the other tow, it could've gone either way. The way I see it is that we essentially beat ourselves in the first game with Jarrett's PF. In the second we held them off until that crappy TD call. There is really no way he should've [i]ever [/i]got that.

We should've beat then last year and this year we'll be healthier with a better O. Beating the ketchup girls is completely possible and far from a pipe dream.[/quote]

The pipe dream i was referring to is going to Pittsburgh in Week 1 (because it's not gonna happen), i was not referring to getting the win!! If i was not confident that we could get the win then my previous comments are useless and very contradictary ;) .
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Just because the Ravens requested this does this mean it won't happen. or will the league say hahaha we going to stick it to you because you asked for us not to?
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[quote name='macbrak' post='170997' date='Mar 20 2009, 11:08 PM']As much as I'd like to get another shot at Pittsburgh at [b]Ketchupville[/b] Primetime again, thanks, but no thanks for the ring ceremony night, and I'm sure this is what the Front Office felt.[/quote]


:lol: "Ketchupville." That's messed up...., yet funny at the same time.
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[quote name='thewarden86' post='171123' date='Mar 21 2009, 10:58 AM']:lol: "Ketchupville." That's messed up...., yet funny at the same time.[/quote]

It is the best ketchup around. Hunt's pales in comparison.
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I like the rematch idea but at M&T, NOT Heinz field. :P

An opener, nationally televised, game between the Ravens and the Steelers would most likely be so high emotionally charged that both teams would injure themselves before the season really starts. I say this is a good call.
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[quote name='ravenwildman' post='171185' date='Mar 21 2009, 09:55 PM']I like the rematch idea but at M&T, NOT Heinz field. :P

An opener, nationally televised, game between the Ravens and the Steelers would most likely be so high emotionally charged that both teams would injure themselves before the season really starts. I say this is a good call.[/quote]

I hate the Steelers. Not a productive post, just wanted to comment.
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[quote name='Ranger275' post='171186' date='Mar 21 2009, 01:57 PM']I hate the Steelers. Not a productive post, just wanted to comment.[/quote]
You're not the only one. I'd love it if we beat the Steelers at their house during their homecoming, but the injuries so early in the season wouldn't be worth it to me, (And aparantly it isn't worth it the Ravens people either) and let's face it, the odds are severely stacked against us.
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[quote name='darklight1216' post='171193' date='Mar 21 2009, 10:04 PM']You're not the only one. I'd love it if we beat the Steelers at their house during their homecoming, but the injuries so early in the season wouldn't be worth it to me, (And aparantly it isn't worth it the Ravens people either) and let's face it, the odds are severely stacked against us.[/quote]


Who knows, though? Flacco should be better this year. The three games were mighty close, and Flacco getting better (it's such a vital position)...well, I think the Ravens might have a little somethin' somethin' for that game.
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[size=2]That is honestly a shame, if any of the Steelers fans I work with find out about this I will have to swtich job sites!!![/size]
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[quote name='SickBoy' post='171198' date='Mar 21 2009, 02:15 PM'][size=2]That is honestly a shame, if any of the Steelers fans I work with find out about this I will have to swtich job sites!!![/size][/quote]
Oh the Stoolers already know and they are having a field day about it.
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The last 3 years it seems we go to steelers for(THE SET UP GAME)to make them look good.
and ,,,,
far to many bad calls good calls with the refs helping them do it.
steelers dont have sheerleaders cause the money for them goes to the refs.
steelers are my #1 team i hate.
crap on pitt.
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[quote name='RAVEN63' post='171208' date='Mar 21 2009, 10:51 PM']The last 3 years it seems we go to steelers for(THE SET UP GAME)to make them look good.
and ,,,,
far to many bad calls good calls with the refs helping them do it.
steelers dont have sheerleaders cause the money for them goes to the refs.
steelers are my #1 team i hate.
crap on pitt.[/quote]


They get more gift calls than any team I've ever seen. I mean, look at the superbowl against the seahawks...damn.
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[quote name='Ranger275' post='171213' date='Mar 21 2009, 03:04 PM']They get more gift calls than any team I've ever seen. I mean, look at the superbowl against the seahawks...damn.[/quote]
Uhm.... new fan question: what exactly happened?
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[quote name='neepo13' post='171024' date='Mar 21 2009, 12:08 AM']I understand where you are coming from but lets not let reality slip away from us. I think we can beat them [b]but they havent lost on MNF at home in something like 14 games. [/b]There is a reason for that. Why set yourself up for failure? Could we be the ones to break that streak? Sure we could but given the odds, I'd really rather not find out.[/quote]

thats kool and all, but isn't the season opener on thursday night?
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You know I'm starting to change my opinion on this...

I think we should play them. It is a risky move to be sure, but what better way is there to stick it to them? If we don't show up it will look like we're scared- like three lousy games did us in and we don't have confidence anymore.
Football is a rough sport and someone on our team is going to get injured at some point so why not make it count? Even if we have to have the first several games on the road, why tremble? Everyone has to at someone point; we've won on the road in playoffs, we can do it again the regular season too. How can we even talk about beating the Colts if we're not even willing to play in Pissburgh? We have the opportunity to show them that their 6 rings don't mean they can own the division. We can show them that their easy schedule means nothing when they have to play us twice.

Let's not have the "You can't lose if you don't play" mentality. We can take them anytime, anywhere!
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[quote name='darklight1216' post='171214' date='Mar 21 2009, 11:04 PM']Uhm.... new fan question: what exactly happened?[/quote]

Against the Seahawks?
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[quote name='darklight1216' post='171226' date='Mar 21 2009, 11:23 PM']Yes.[/quote]

Ben got credit for a touchdown when the ball didn't break the line and a wide variety of BS calls. I think the hawks got nailed for a few holding calls when replay showed nothing remotely similar to holding, and they wound up killing drives that were going pretty good otherwise.

It was just a garbage, sloppy game that Pittsburgh won when they clearly shouldn't have.
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[quote name='Moderator 3' post='171233' date='Mar 21 2009, 03:39 PM']If we don't open at home, then we can't play at home until Week 3 because of the Orioles schedule.[/quote]
So? I don't feel like repeating myself, but look at my post above.

[quote name='Ranger275' post='171235' date='Mar 21 2009, 03:42 PM']Ben got credit for a touchdown when the ball didn't break the line and a wide variety of BS calls. I think the hawks got nailed for a few holding calls when replay showed nothing remotely similar to holding, and they wound up killing drives that were going pretty good otherwise.

It was just a garbage, sloppy game that Pittsburgh won when they clearly shouldn't have.[/quote]
That stinks. You know how the NFL is so careful about every deal that's made and every contract that is signed- they should scrutinize the refs just as carefully.
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[quote name='Ranger275' post='171235' date='Mar 21 2009, 03:42 PM']Ben got credit for a touchdown when the ball didn't break the line and a wide variety of BS calls. I think the hawks got nailed for a few holding calls when replay showed nothing remotely similar to holding, and they wound up killing drives that were going pretty good otherwise.

It was just a garbage, sloppy game that Pittsburgh won when they clearly shouldn't have.[/quote]

im tired of this honestly........the only call that could be questioned was bens td

the pass interference in the endzone was a good call(which is one of the commonly stated "bad calls")

and also no one talks about the colts game where we had to two interceptions stolen from us.....

we deserved to be there....we won three really hard games

and its not our fault the seahawks were not good enough to capatalize on the fact that ben choked
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