Orlando Pace Rumors & Updates

[T-Sizzle55]

[quote name='Ravensfan23' post='170271' date='Mar 18 2009, 10:47 PM']However it would indicate to me that they don't think very highly of Adam Terry. He played behind JO and was viewed to be the future LT, but that is Gaither now. He was expected to be our starting RT but once Willie got more comfortable with us, he took over that spot. At this point in his career Terry should be pushing guys like Anderson off this roster, and we should have the need for a Pace, but that is not the case.[/quote]

I brought up Cousins before because I wanted to know if we should draft another OT. I viewed Cousins as Terry's replacement. However, should we get a RT to learn behind and take over for Willie or Pace and let Cousins be a backup until he's ready?

David Hale is a better Pass blocker, so he's backing up Grubbs right now. The depth chart shows Cousins backing Gaither and Terry backing Willie.
In my mock draft, I had us taking a G to back Yanda, while everyone sees Chester switching back to C and backing Birk.

| Gaither | Grubbs | Birk ||||| Yanda||| Anderson |
| Cousins | Hale ||| Chester | Chester | Terry |

(I think Cousins and Terry should switch sides, Terry said he felt more comfortable as a LT and he's a cheap backup right now. Cousins has great hands and a strong push in the run game, he was a key blocker in UTEP's run game therefore he should be a RT.)

Should we draft a C, G, T, or none?
(Did Ozzie call Andre Smith and tell him to dip out of his combine workouts?! lol)

[52Kia Kaha92]

i woul dlike Xavier FUlton, the guy is raw but could develop into a stud, he is a great pass blocker and hasnt reached the surface of his potential, he can add about 15 pounds and with added strength becam a great player,he has perfect technique and if Gaither wants a massive deal he could be an insurance policy, if not, very good depth and with added weight a possible RT of the future

[jezzy]

with birk gaithers grubbs pace our line will be the shiznet pace can school yanda and our other youngings i would love for this to happen ozzie is puting right in position to contend for years with alota of youth and some very productive veterans i love the direction oz is sterring us

[Bazooka Joe]

[quote name='T-Sizzle55' post='170285' date='Mar 18 2009, 11:17 PM']I brought up Cousins before because I wanted to know if we should draft another OT. I viewed Cousins as Terry's replacement. However, should we get a RT to learn behind and take over for Willie or Pace and let Cousins be a backup until he's ready?

David Hale is a better Pass blocker, so he's backing up Grubbs right now. The depth chart shows Cousins backing Gaither and Terry backing Willie.
In my mock draft, I had us taking a G to back Yanda, while everyone sees Chester switching back to C and backing Birk.

| Gaither | Grubbs | Birk ||||| Yanda||| Anderson |
| Cousins | Hale ||| Chester | Chester | Terry |

(I think Cousins and Terry should switch sides, Terry said he felt more comfortable as a LT and he's a cheap backup right now. Cousins has great hands and a strong push in the run game, he was a key blocker in UTEP's run game therefore he should be a RT.)

Should we draft a C, G, T, or none?
(Did Ozzie call Andre Smith and tell him to dip out of his combine workouts?! lol)[/quote]

It has been said by a reliable media member that the brass don't see much upside in David Hale. He is viewed as too slow. Cousins has some upside, but needs lots of work.

I just wish we'd stop trying to covert LTs or guards into RTs. Just take a pure RT in the draft. I'd take Alex Boone, Phil Loadholt, or Andrew Gardner or Fenuki Tupou (who I've never seen play, but I like his measurables).

[Wacko4Zacko]

Do we have enough money in our salary cap to even sign Pace? I know we released Rolle, but thats only what 5-6 million dollars? Plus don't we have to sign whoever we draft?

[rastaman831226]

This has been my question for the last 2 weeks, With the FO having already signed Carr and Smith while eyeing both Pace and Holt, where is all this money coming from to sign draftees and has Bisciotti given Ozzie the OK to exceed the cap?

[FerrariFan87]

I am pretty sure Anderson is more durable, but if we can bring in Pace for cheap, you can't have too many Pro Bowl OT on the roster.

[rastaman831226]

[quote name='Ravensfan23' post='170131' date='Mar 18 2009, 03:47 PM']I think bringing in Pace would be a huge deal for the Ravens. Pace,Gaither,Anderson would be a nice combo for the unbalanced line. I don't think Pace would come in and be the starter unless Anderson is let go. However i think if the numbers are right that the Ravens should really keep Anderson.

Having guys like Pace, Anderson, and Birk will do wonders for this oline in my opinion and it will allow us to do more offensively. I think that Terry's days in baltimore are numbered, and wouldn't be at all surprised if he was cut before the end of camp. I'm sure the Ravens will add a RT prospect in the draft to compete in the future with guys like Hale and Cousins.

I know Pace and Anderson are deep in their careers, but i wonder if either of them could slide inside to RG as insurance incase Yanda is not full ready to go in camp. Just a thought[/quote]
Ding! Ding!! Ding!!! Ding!!!! You nailed it!!!! You know ole Cam and all the running backs are having wet ones dreaming about Gaither, Pace, and Anderson in an occasional unbalanced line. That lineup solves most of the red zone problems. Rice, McGahee, Parmalee or McClain could walk into the endzone with that much pure mean beef up front. These vet moves are all about winning now especially given this coming season's seemingly soft schedule and the continuation the momentum gained from last season's miraculous performance. Thanx for your post, man, as soon as I read it , I got reallllly excited thinking about all the real potential this lineup will bring. Can you spell unstoppable?

[20ReedsAll]

Holy crap, I just realized how scarey our unbalenced line would be with those guys! God I can't wait for ravens football!

[Ravenoid]

Amen brother! Pace would be a fine addition. Guys get dinged up and Pace could fill in at either tackle for a while until the starter gets back. We wouldn't have what happened last season when so many guys had to play hurt. Thay can heal for a few weeks. That's great for the long haul.

Man! I'm realy gettin excited!
Glad I got my PSLs. Can't wait.

[mhead66]

Pace is 33 years old - tolerable for a QB (Warner) but ancient for an OLineman. You may be able to plug him in for a year, for stability, as a backup or a stopgap. However, draft picks - guys that can grow into the offense, and be around for years - are the better way to go. Outside of 1st rounders, they're cheaper... no need to have 3 aging OLinemen (Birk, Anderson & Pace) occupy three spots on the OL roster.

[Wacko4Zacko]

I hope we sign Pace, and forget Holt, we can draft a WR.

[flynismo]

[quote name='mhead66' post='170651' date='Mar 19 2009, 10:13 PM']Pace is 33 years old - tolerable for a QB (Warner) but ancient for an OLineman. You may be able to plug him in for a year, for stability, as a backup or a stopgap. However, draft picks - guys that can grow into the offense, and be around for years - are the better way to go. Outside of 1st rounders, they're cheaper... no need to have 3 aging OLinemen (Birk, Anderson & Pace) occupy three spots on the OL roster.[/quote]

No, 33 is up there but far from ancient. Guys like Mawae (38) Walter Jones (36), and countless others have played deep into their 30's. It's not Pace's age that I'd worry about, it's his ability to stay healthy.

[mhead66]

[quote name='flynismo' post='170658' date='Mar 19 2009, 10:22 PM']No, 33 is up there but far from ancient. Guys like Mawae (38) Walter Jones (36), and countless others have played deep into their 30's. It's not Pace's age that I'd worry about, it's his ability to stay healthy.[/quote]
True that, but as players get older, they (obviously) get injured more frequently. Rolle, CMac & Mason are examples. McNair showed it, in his last couple of years. Pace has had a HOF career, and if he could be healthy, he could be profitable. But, like you said, this is the concern.

Same for L.J. Smith - but he doesn't have the "talent" Pace has had.

[RavensIQ]

Gaither, Grubbs, Birk, Yanda/Terry, Pace with Anderson, Terry, Chester as back ups...

Can you imagine this heavy formation:


Heap[color="#C0C0C0"]..............[/color]Gaither, Grubbs, Birk, Yanda, Anderson[color="#C0C0C0"]...........[/color]Mason
[color="#C0C0C0"].............[/color]Pace[color="#C0C0C0"]........................[/color]Flacco

[color="#C0C0C0"]..............................[/color]Lo' Neal

[color="#C0C0C0"]............................................[/color]McClain

[theGoldenArm]

[quote name='RavensIQ' post='170673' date='Mar 19 2009, 11:16 PM']Gaither, Grubbs, Birk, Yanda/Terry, Pace with Anderson, Terry, Chester as a back ups...

Can you imagine this heavy formation:


Heap[color="#C0C0C0"]......................[/color]Gaither, Grubbs, Birk, Yanda, Anderson[color="#C0C0C0"]......................[/color]Mason
[color="#C0C0C0"]......................[/color]Pace[color="#C0C0C0"]........................[/color]Flacco

[color="#C0C0C0"]........................................[/color]Lo' Neal

[color="#C0C0C0"]....................................................[/color]McClain[/quote]


=SICK

[Wacko4Zacko]

Any updates on Pace yet?

[ravensfan4life1228]

[quote name='RavensIQ' post='170673' date='Mar 19 2009, 11:16 PM']Gaither, Grubbs, Birk, Yanda/Terry, Pace with Anderson, Terry, Chester as back ups...

Can you imagine this heavy formation:


Heap[color="#C0C0C0"]..............[/color]Gaither, Grubbs, Birk, Yanda, Anderson[color="#C0C0C0"]...........[/color]Mason
[color="#C0C0C0"].............[/color]Pace[color="#C0C0C0"]........................[/color]Flacco

[color="#C0C0C0"]..............................[/color]Lo' Neal

[color="#C0C0C0"]............................................[/color]McClain[/quote]


ONE WORD............DOMINATION............

[Mahatma_Sloth]

[quote name='RavensIQ' post='170673' date='Mar 19 2009, 09:16 PM']Gaither, Grubbs, Birk, Yanda/Terry, Pace with Anderson, Terry, Chester as back ups...

Can you imagine this heavy formation:


Heap[color="#C0C0C0"]..............[/color]Gaither, Grubbs, Birk, Yanda, Anderson[color="#C0C0C0"]...........[/color]Mason
[color="#C0C0C0"].............[/color]Pace[color="#C0C0C0"]........................[/color]Flacco

[color="#C0C0C0"]..............................[/color]Lo' Neal

[color="#C0C0C0"]............................................[/color]McClain[/quote]
I think i finally get to see CChester at TE this year and rightfully so, he has way too much athletic abillity for a man that size to be confined to the OL also we are building so much depth at OL.
Think about it! Chester in the backfield for pass protections, sweeps and screens with a pulling gaurd(yanda/grubbs) and chester(shoot we could even throw quinn syp in there too). i suggested this before the start of last season and someone told me to quit acting like i was playing madden, he shoulda told that to Cam Cam cuz this move was gonna happen until yanda went down.


oh and i like this formation.... id call it MJOLLNIR

[justifythegame]

[quote name='RavensIQ' post='170673' date='Mar 19 2009, 11:16 PM']Gaither, Grubbs, Birk, Yanda/Terry, Pace with Anderson, Terry, Chester as back ups...

Can you imagine this heavy formation:


Heap[color="#C0C0C0"]..............[/color]Gaither, Grubbs, Birk, Yanda, Anderson[color="#C0C0C0"]...........[/color]Mason
[color="#C0C0C0"].............[/color]Pace[color="#C0C0C0"]........................[/color]Flacco

[color="#C0C0C0"]..............................[/color]Lo' Neal

[color="#C0C0C0"]............................................[/color]McClain[/quote]
first, Neal is not longer a Raven. Since our 2 HBs are both 100% healthy and we are likely to add a 3rd, McClain is likely to take all his snaps at FB, even if he is running from it. He didn't make the pro bowl as HB last time i checked. Don't see why you bench someone who played like one of the best players on the OL last year either. Pace couldn't play TE either, he isn't versatile like that. He is mainly a pass protector, and i would even see him getting injured easily a TE trying to run block anyway. We dont really need Pace if we have Anderson, who might get cut if we sign Pace then.

Heap..............Gaither, Grubbs, Birk, Chester, Pace...........Mason
.............Terry........................Flacco

..............................McClain

............................................McGahee

[Mahatma_Sloth]

[quote name='justifythegame' post='170753' date='Mar 20 2009, 08:46 AM']first, Neal is not longer a Raven. [b]Since our 2 HBs are both 100% healthy and we are likely to add a 3rd, McClain is likely to take all his snaps at FB, even if he is running from it. He didn't make the pro bowl as HB last time i checked[/b]. Don't see why you bench someone who played like one of the best players on the OL last year either. Pace couldn't play TE either, he isn't versatile like that. He is mainly a pass protector, and i would even see him getting injured easily a TE trying to run block anyway. We dont really need Pace if we have Anderson, who might get cut if we sign Pace then.

Heap..............Gaither, Grubbs, Birk, Chester, Pace...........Mason
.............Terry........................Flacco

..............................McClain

............................................McGahee[/quote]
i hope we add more depth at the RB(and FB for that matter) position, and we can, since we have a RB listed at FB(which is why he went to the pro bowl as a FB) i see Mclain as a anoter hybrid(RB/FB) and he will get plenty of carries this year again as far as chester goes we move him to TE cuz he has the skills to be there and yanda is back at RG for he is a more natural lineman

[justifythegame]

[quote name='Mahatma_Sloth' post='170760' date='Mar 20 2009, 11:08 AM']i hope we add more depth at the RB(and FB for that matter) position, and we can, since we have a RB listed at FB(which is why he went to the pro bowl as a FB) i see Mclain as a anoter hybrid(RB/FB) and he will get plenty of carries this year again as far as chester goes we move him to TE cuz he has the skills to be there and yanda is back at RG for he is a more natural lineman[/quote]
Yanda moves like a rock. He seemed to block the hole more than open a hole in the run game last year. You can see the RB just bounce right off of him a couple times. He is even worse at T, he got beat easily because he was so SLOW. Every time McNair or Boller got hit, i would get up and point at #73 looking like he is moving in slow motion while defenders just ran past him, and he would just turn around after the play looking at his QB on the ground. I am just not a fan of the guy. Yanda and Chester seem to be opposites, especially due to the fact that Yanda seems to be great during practices, but mediocre on gameday and Chester bad at practices but great on gameday. Our original plan before cutting all the old ppl and going young was to get athletic at the OL, and Chester is just that. But i also agree he would actually be good as a TE, a lot better than Terry we used at TE last year.

[bigZ2222]

willie and orlando play different sides

[BloodRaven]

[quote name='justifythegame' post='170878' date='Mar 20 2009, 04:49 PM']Yanda moves like a rock. He seemed to block the hole more than open a hole in the run game last year. You can see the RB just bounce right off of him a couple times. He is even worse at T, he got beat easily because he was so SLOW. Every time McNair or Boller got hit, i would get up and point at #73 looking like he is moving in slow motion while defenders just ran past him, and he would just turn around after the play looking at his QB on the ground. I am just not a fan of the guy. Yanda and Chester seem to be opposites, especially due to the fact that Yanda seems to be great during practices, but mediocre on gameday and Chester bad at practices but great on gameday. Our original plan before cutting all the old ppl and going young was to get athletic at the OL, and Chester is just that. But i also agree he would actually be good as a TE, a lot better than Terry we used at TE last year.[/quote]

Yanda is pretty scrappy, overall I think hes average but is much stronger in the trenches than Chester. Chester probably should be playing for a zone blocking unit.

[Wacko4Zacko]

So I assume that Pace and Ravens are still talking? If not, someone please post some updates.

[FerrariFan87]

[quote name='RavensIQ' post='170673' date='Mar 19 2009, 11:16 PM']Gaither, Grubbs, Birk, Yanda/Terry, Pace with Anderson, Terry, Chester as back ups...

Can you imagine this heavy formation:


Heap[color="#C0C0C0"]..............[/color]Gaither, Grubbs, Birk, Yanda, Anderson[color="#C0C0C0"]...........[/color]Mason
[color="#C0C0C0"].............[/color]Pace[color="#C0C0C0"]........................[/color]Flacco

[color="#C0C0C0"]..............................[/color]Lo' Neal

[color="#C0C0C0"]............................................[/color]McClain[/quote]

Ridiculous... have we re-signed Lo-Neal though?

[T-Sizzle55]

[quote name='BloodRaven' post='170920' date='Mar 20 2009, 08:21 PM']Yanda is pretty scrappy, overall I think hes average but is much stronger in the trenches than Chester. Chester probably should be playing for a zone blocking unit.[/quote]

Yanda dominated every d lineman infront of him. During the first time we played Cleveland, I remeber him closelining 2 defenders at once to get McGahee in the endzone.

I think he is a potential Pro-Bowler.

[52Kia Kaha92]

i love yanda and his big chops lol,
he is a mauler and is a monster in the run game,
sizzle is right, he could be a pro bowler

On a side note i was playing madden tonight and had this o-line

Gaither - Grubbs - Chester - Yanda - Cousins

It worked out well for me, only allowed one sack and McGahee had 126 yards of 27 attempts

If Chester can bulk up this could be our line in the next 3 years

[Ed(TheMachine)Reed]

So with Chicago having the huge trade. Does that mean they can't go for Pace anymore and gives us a better chance to pick the veteran tackle?

[heapitup247]

Pace signed with the bears

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