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Orlando Pace Rumors & Updates

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The Ravens are reportedly talking to free agent OT Orlando Pace "with some seriousness."
[url="http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/2009/03/notes-from-lombardi-afc-north/"]http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/2009/0...ardi-afc-north/[/url]
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He's always banged up. If he's healthy we could use him at RT. Not sure why we're trying so desperately to get rid of Anderson, maybe it's the contract but he was ok last season, even though he can't block pass rushers.
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I dunno...as long as we don't pay a lot, I'll be okay with this....
But hey, look at it this way, between Pace and Anderson, chances are pretty good we'll have at least one RT who is healthy AND doesn't suck
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this could be good but i thought willie was coming back and whats up with yanda is he healthy yet cuz he is a beast n our line should be good already with birk calling the shots
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[url="http://www.profootballtalk.com/2009/03/17/orlando-pace-visiting-baltimore/"]http://www.profootballtalk.com/2009/03/17/...ting-baltimore/[/url]

Orlando Pace is reportedly visiting with us on Wednesday. I don't know how I feel about this....
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At this point, if the signing happens, it happens; I'll still be indifferent, regardless. I'd prefer not to go after Pace, but if he turns out to be cheaper than Willie Anderson and can stay healthy, then great. Otherwise, I'm fine with Anderson and possibly acquiring someone later in the draft.
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[quote name='GoRavensNTerps' post='169801' date='Mar 17 2009, 10:25 PM'][url="http://www.profootballtalk.com/2009/03/17/orlando-pace-visiting-baltimore/"]http://www.profootballtalk.com/2009/03/17/...ting-baltimore/[/url]

Orlando Pace is reportedly visiting with us on Wednesday. I don't know how I feel about this....[/quote]

Yeah I seen that on NFL Network's ticker, him and LJ visiting Wednesday
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i love how we go young in some areas but in our line we go older, must bc a young jason brown wanted a lot of money but players like anderson, birk and pace will play for less and be just as good. but honestly i rather not have pace due to having anderson and him stepping up big
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[quote name='Perfekt' post='169845' date='Mar 17 2009, 11:54 PM']for the right price why not get him.[/quote]
He hasn't been healthy since 2005, which is the biggest issue. If he can't stay on the field, then why try to save a few mil that way? Better to pay more for someone who is more likely to stay on the field if you have to pay a veteran, hence why I'm more comfortable with Willie Anderson.

But, if Pace is signed, I won't throw my arms up in defeat and consider it a bad move.
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im just saying if were going to get him it better be for the right price. im not happy with everything that happened this off season but i dont make the decisions i just love my team. we all know i disagree about a few things that go on but im just a fan.
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id rather have willie, he fits our mauling style better than pace
But it looks like well sign him as not many leave the castle without a deal
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which means we most likely will sign him i think with him birk grubbs yanda we will have one of the top lines in the nfl so this is a good move
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I don't think he will be a starter unless he moves to right tackle. We don't wanna be moving Gaither; It'll mess with his development.
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[quote name='MKdave' post='170119' date='Mar 18 2009, 04:16 PM']I don't think he will be a starter unless he moves to right tackle. We don't wanna be moving Gaither; It'll mess with his development.[/quote]

I think you're right.. Hes the project of out O-Line and we need him to learn and get some more experience.. I like the idea of having Pace on our team.. Im a huge fan of the guy and what hes done in the NFL.. Granted his recent injuries worry me a bit, but a healthy Pace would make our O-Line incredible.. Im up for anything that will keep Terry watching from the sidelines..

I just heard on ESPN that we want him to move over to right tackle for us..
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[quote name='Devastat1on' post='170122' date='Mar 18 2009, 04:21 PM']I think you're right.. Hes the project of out O-Line and we need him to learn and get some more experience.. I like the idea of having Pace on our team.. Im a huge fan of the guy and what hes done in the NFL.. Granted his recent injuries worry me a bit, but a healthy Pace would make our O-Line incredible.. Im up for anything that will keep Terry watching from the sidelines..

I just heard on ESPN that we want him to move over to right tackle for us..[/quote]


I think bringing in Pace would be a huge deal for the Ravens. Pace,Gaither,Anderson would be a nice combo for the unbalanced line. I don't think Pace would come in and be the starter unless Anderson is let go. However i think if the numbers are right that the Ravens should really keep Anderson.

Having guys like Pace, Anderson, and Birk will do wonders for this oline in my opinion and it will allow us to do more offensively. I think that Terry's days in baltimore are numbered, and wouldn't be at all surprised if he was cut before the end of camp. I'm sure the Ravens will add a RT prospect in the draft to compete in the future with guys like Hale and Cousins.

I know Pace and Anderson are deep in their careers, but i wonder if either of them could slide inside to RG as insurance incase Yanda is not full ready to go in camp. Just a thought
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[quote name='Ravensfan23' post='170131' date='Mar 18 2009, 04:47 PM']I think bringing in Pace would be a huge deal for the Ravens. Pace,Gaither,Anderson would be a nice combo for the unbalanced line. I don't think Pace would come in and be the starter unless Anderson is let go. However i think if the numbers are right that the Ravens should really keep Anderson.

Having guys like Pace, Anderson, and Birk will do wonders for this oline in my opinion and it will allow us to do more offensively. I think that Terry's days in baltimore are numbered, and wouldn't be at all surprised if he was cut before the end of camp. I'm sure the Ravens will add a RT prospect in the draft to compete in the future with guys like Hale and Cousins.

I know Pace and Anderson are deep in their careers, but i wonder if either of them could slide inside to RG as insurance incase Yanda is not full ready to go in camp. Just a thought[/quote]

Putting either at guard would be a mistake and not sure if either would be willing to do so. My question is why would we even think about that when Chester did a great job after Yanda went down? Besides we need a little speed/agility at the guard position to be able to pull for our running game and neither Pace nor Anderson will do that as well as Yanda or Chester.

Pace signing with the Ravens will be a pure depth decision or maybe they do have plans of moving him to the right and releasing Anderson or maybe Terry.
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[quote name='Ravensfan23' post='170131' date='Mar 18 2009, 04:47 PM']I think that Terry's days in baltimore are numbered, and wouldn't be at all surprised if he was cut before the end of camp. I'm sure the Ravens will add a RT prospect in the draft to compete in the future with guys like Hale and Cousins.

I know Pace and Anderson are deep in their careers, but i wonder if either of them could slide inside to RG as insurance incase Yanda is not full ready to go in camp. Just a thought[/quote]

I would love for Terry to be out.. I would much rather us keep Anderson and let Terry go.. Terry is just too weak and gets beat too often.. And i also do see us adding another OL sometime in this years draft.. I also thought about one of them shifting over to RG aswell.. I would prefer Anderson and Pace over Yanda.. Yanda has potential, but i feel Anderson and Pace could do a better job.. Pace has also been injured lately so if he did happen to go down, Yanda could always come back and do a decent job.. How about we push Duke Robinson over to the right side? Maybe trade up in the 2nd to take him or just stick where we are and take big Herman Johnson(OG and OT) and all 6'7" 356 pounds of him(hes been dropping weight for the NFL.. He has weighed 411 pounds in the past).. After reading up on Herman, hes willing to play anywhere on the O-Line and im starting to like the guy a lot..
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[quote name='POE' post='170132' date='Mar 18 2009, 04:52 PM']Putting either at guard would be a mistake and not sure if either would be willing to do so. My question is why would we even think about that when Chester did a great job after Yanda went down? Besides we need a little speed/agility at the guard position to be able to pull for our running game and neither Pace nor Anderson will do that as well as Yanda or Chester.

Pace signing with the Ravens will be a pure depth decision or maybe they do have plans of moving him to the right and releasing Anderson or maybe Terry.[/quote]

I'm not talkin about using them for an entire season, just occasionally to maxiumize the talent on the oline. However u are 100% correct, chester would be the best option at RG if Yanda wasn't able to come back full go.
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No, no, no, I really hope to God Ozzie doesn't pull the trigger on this one, it would be the only offseason move I would disapprove of.

Before last season, the talk was that we had one of the younger,up and coming o-lines in the league (not to mention not as injury prone). We added Anderson last year which i think was a great addition and still do. We added Birk in free agency, that's two vets to lead this young o-line. If we added Pace, it would most likely mean Willie would get cut just to make cap room. Willie got beat a bit last year but he was playing through lingering injuries the last half of the season and did a solid job. Not to mention the fact that he is committed to this team already and is coming to OTAs in shape and ready to compete. I would much rather have us keep Willie another year and draft a right tackle in the 2nd or 3rd round (very deep tackle class this year) and bring him along behind Willie.

Willie will also stay much healthier, Pace hasn't played a full season since, what, 2003 or 2004?
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[quote name='Corvus' post='170137' date='Mar 18 2009, 05:26 PM']No, no, no, I really hope to God Ozzie doesn't pull the trigger on this one, it would be the only offseason move I would disapprove of.

Before last season, the talk was that we had one of the younger,up and coming o-lines in the league (not to mention not as injury prone). We added Anderson last year which i think was a great addition and still do. We added Birk in free agency, that's two vets to lead this young o-line. If we added Pace, it would most likely mean Willie would get cut just to make cap room. Willie got beat a bit last year but he was playing through lingering injuries the last half of the season and did a solid job. Not to mention the fact that he is committed to this team already and is coming to OTAs in shape and ready to compete. I would much rather have us keep Willie another year and draft a right tackle in the 2nd or 3rd round (very deep tackle class this year) and bring him along behind Willie.

Willie will also stay much healthier, Pace hasn't played a full season since, what, 2003 or 2004?[/quote]

I agree with you about letting Anderson go because I think he still has some left in him and now knows the system well enough to do some damage if he stays healthy. I also like the article I read on him in the Sun talkng about how much he is ready to show the Ravens that he is still an elite right tackle. However, We still have one of the youngest O-lines in the league so don't get to uptight about this move if it happens. We only lost our young center, who wasn't the youngest of them anyways, and you know that we will add young depth via the draft. Adding Pace will make sure that we have [b]proven[/b] talent to come in if we do have any injury problems rather then relying on young/raw talent that we draft, and I think it is a very smart contribution on Ozzie's part, if the price is right.
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What's the deal with Oniel Cousins right now? I thought we were grooming him behind Willie Anderson since Adam Terry is too inconsistent.

I know he was a DT for most of his collegiate career, so does this mean he needs a lot more time? Or that he can't play tackle and should play guard?
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[quote name='T-Sizzle55' post='170268' date='Mar 18 2009, 10:38 PM']What's the deal with Oniel Cousins right now? I thought we were grooming him behind Willie Anderson since Adam Terry is too inconsistent.

I know he was a DT for most of his collegiate career, so does this mean he needs alot more time? Or that he can't play tackle and should play guard?[/quote]

No it means that the kid is young, and right now u do whatever it takes to improve your team. Cousins is raw but has a world of talent, and it is expected to take 3-4 years for him to develop into what we want. No way does Anderson or Pace play that long with us, so this move would have no bearing on how the Ravens view Cousins.

However it would indicate to me that they don't think very highly of Adam Terry. He played behind JO and was viewed to be the future LT, but that is Gaither now. He was expected to be our starting RT but once Willie got more comfortable with us, he took over that spot. At this point in his career Terry should be pushing guys like Anderson off this roster, and we should have the need for a Pace, but that is not the case.
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