Trade With Lions

[travis]

do you think we should try to trade for the lions 20th pick in the draft

[FerrariFan87]

[quote name='travis' post='167973' date='Mar 13 2009, 05:34 PM']do you think we should try to trade for the lions 20th pick in the draft[/quote]

For whom exactly? DHB? That's kinda a reach since he is projected by some as a 2nd rounder... Now if Maclin or Crabtree for some reason is there, then most definitely.

[travis]

i was thinking Rey Maualuga if he is still on the board at 20

[darklight1216]

Depends on whom the trade is for.

[bigZ2222]

if we trade the lions i want the #1 pick not #20

[jezzy]

if we can get brandon pettigrew or a big play wr i wouldnt mind but i anticipate ozzie will be making a bunch of moves cuz this years draft is very deep in alot areas we need help in so i dont really know who we trade with but we will be moving alot on draft day

[Pääjärvi]

[quote name='bigZ2222' post='168000' date='Mar 13 2009, 06:12 PM']if we trade the lions i want the #1 pick not #20[/quote]

I wouldn't touch that #1 pick . A lot of money in one player and we already have our franchise LT/QB , IMO the only positions worth taken first overall

[52Kia Kaha92]

It depends on who is there, if by some miracle jenkins is there, then yes, if maybin is there then yes
Otherwise id rather sit back and draft phonso, Vontae, Maualuga, English, Nicks, DHB or Maclin

[mhead66]

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[MagicianCamille]

Let's do nothing with the Lions.

Their bad luck might spill over...

[wspencer]

i wouldn't be surprised to see the ravens move up a handful of spots if it got them the player of their choice. but it'd probably be pettigrew, jenkins, nicks, or maybe even DHB. yes...DHB. he's growing on me, and from what i've heard......he's really growing on the ravens

[RoflDogs]

If we trade with the lions, I want to trade down to the 33nd pick and their 3rd round pick

[Ravensfan23]

[quote name='RoflDogs' post='168075' date='Mar 13 2009, 08:46 PM']If we trade with the lions, I want to trade down to the 33nd pick and their 3rd round pick[/quote]


I would much rather trade down with them and pick up their 33(2nd) 82(3rd) and a 6th, with possibly a early 1st or 2nd rounder in 2010.

That would give us 9 overall picks and allow Ozzie to move around for better value.

[SupaBwandin]

[quote name='Ravensfan23' post='168090' date='Mar 13 2009, 09:45 PM']I would much rather trade down with them and pick up their 33(2nd) 82(3rd) and a 6th, with possibly a early 1st or 2nd rounder in 2010.

That would give us 9 overall picks and allow Ozzie to move around for better value.[/quote]
Yeah, I dont see us getting the lions 2nd 3rd, and 6th plus a 1 or 2 next year for our 26

[52Kia Kaha92]

actually IMO if there is no real can miss talent when we pick or a player that fills a hole i actually wouldnt mid trading back with DEt for there third aswell as there 4th and 6th round picks and there 1st next year

that means well have

Round 2 (26) -
Round 3 (1) -
Round 3 (26) -
Round 4 (1) -
Round 4 (26) -
Round 5 (26) -
Round 6 (1) -
ROund 6 (26) -

as well as a very high pick next year to get a Dez Bryant or Arelious Benn, and then with our pick we can get a CB or a Terrenace Cody or someone on the d-line
We would then have heaps of picks and could trade up and get heaps of great guys aswell as a first roudner next year

just think , we could trade our 2nd, there third and ther 4th and move up a lot in the secound round to get a Britt, Harvin, Nicks, Robiskie, Sean Smith, Darius Butler, and we still have lots of picks left, just another idea that probably wont happen but you never know do you

[wspencer]

how much do you folks think the 26th pick in the draft is worth? why IN THE WORLD would detroit give up their 2010 first rounder in that trade? i mean, seriously! it's detroit! they'd have to go from 0-16 to somewhere around 11-5 to have an equal value pick next year.

come on! that's us trading our 26th this year straight up for a top 10 pick.

if you need more evidence....look at the old trade value chart. not an exact science, but it gives you an idea of what you're talking about

We Trade: 26th pick. value of 700 points

They trade: 33rd (580), 82nd (180) and 161 (27). that's a total of 787 points right there. throw in next year's first, and at the very least you're talking 590 points for the 32nd pick.

trading back is an option, but no team is going to give up the world for it

[Ravensfan23]

[quote name='Moderator9' post='168143' date='Mar 14 2009, 12:42 AM']how much do you folks think the 26th pick in the draft is worth? why IN THE WORLD would detroit give up their 2010 first rounder in that trade? i mean, seriously! it's detroit! they'd have to go from 0-16 to somewhere around 11-5 to have an equal value pick next year.

come on! that's us trading our 26th this year straight up for a top 10 pick.

if you need more evidence....look at the old trade value chart. not an exact science, but it gives you an idea of what you're talking about

We Trade: 26th pick. value of 700 points

They trade: 33rd (580), 82nd (180) and 161 (27). that's a total of 787 points right there. throw in next year's first, and at the very least you're talking 590 points for the 32nd pick.

trading back is an option, but no team is going to give up the world for it[/quote]


First off teams trade picks that don't make that value chart all the time. So that exact point system is not accurate. Secondly, i didn't say the ravens would come away with all 3 picks this year and a pick for next. I said there could possibly be a pick for 2010. For Detriot a 1st in 2010 would probably be unlikely, but a 2nd rounder is very much possible.

On draft day many trades are made, you never know how a certain team will view a prospect. If there is a guy avalible and someone feels they need to get back into the first round to get them, there is the possibly to give up more then neccessary to complete that trade.

[wspencer]

as i said, the trade value chart isn't an exact science. no one applies it 100%. however, it gives you an idea of what value there is at each pick. i was pointing out that the value for detroit to give up all those picks just doesn't add up

[Lets_Go_Joe]

[quote name='Moderator9' post='168061' date='Mar 13 2009, 08:09 PM']i wouldn't be surprised to see the ravens move up a handful of spots if it got them the player of their choice. but it'd probably be pettigrew, jenkins, nicks, or maybe even DHB. yes...DHB. he's growing on me, and from what i've heard......he's really growing on the ravens[/quote]
Greaaaaaaaat... Sorry, I'm just not sold on him....

I could see us doing it for Maualuga or an OL guy. I could see DHB Nicks or Maclin definitely if hes there. I don't like us trading up for the first two, but I can see it happening. I'll trust the FO until it proves me wrong, so I think if Flacco gives DHB the green light, then we are very likely to take him. Ozzie wants to be able to take advantage of what he has in Joe. He wants to get him a guy who can put 7 on the board through the air more consistantly, and I think we go there in round 1, if not then definitely in round 2.

[itscbm5042]

I like the idea of moving up to 20 to pick up Pettigrew, but would love to find a way to retain our 26th pick as well. I dunno how we would swing that. I guess its possible to trade our 1st, 2nd, 3rd for the Lions 20 and 33

But Pettgirew at 20 and a top WR at 26 or 33 would go a long way to improve the offense and give Joe new toys to play with.

[Bazooka Joe]

[quote name='Moderator9' post='168143' date='Mar 14 2009, 12:42 AM']how much do you folks think the 26th pick in the draft is worth? why IN THE WORLD would detroit give up their 2010 first rounder in that trade? i mean, seriously! it's detroit! they'd have to go from 0-16 to somewhere around 11-5 to have an equal value pick next year.

come on! that's us trading our 26th this year straight up for a top 10 pick.

if you need more evidence....look at the old trade value chart. not an exact science, but it gives you an idea of what you're talking about

We Trade: 26th pick. value of 700 points

They trade: 33rd (580), 82nd (180) and 161 (27). that's a total of 787 points right there. throw in next year's first, and at the very least you're talking 590 points for the 32nd pick.

trading back is an option, but no team is going to give up the world for it[/quote]


I am still trying to figure out how we did not get a 1st rounder when we traded all the way down with Jax last year, but water under the bridge.

Does anyone have what we gave up to move from 26 to 18 lasy year?

[wspencer]

i can't remember off hand, but i believe it involved the extra 2nd or 3rd we got from jax

[52Kia Kaha92]

we traded a third rounder taht we got form JAX

[Bazooka Joe]

[quote name='52Kia Kaha92' post='168337' date='Mar 14 2009, 05:42 PM']we traded a third rounder taht we got form JAX[/quote]


So could we trade our 26th and next year's 3rd rounder to move up to 18 this year? Or we could trade our first and 3rd this year. (It's not like we are hitting on all cylinders with our 3rd rounders). Of course, it would alter my mock.

[wspencer]

remember that last year, the deal with jax. was a sweetheart. ozzie and shack harris had a great relationship and would help eachother out. not many other teams would have given that same deal. and now, since shack is gone in jax, no more sweetheart deals from them

[Reddawn36]

i'd only make that trade for maclin or nicks (WR wise anyways.. only thing i've been thinking about lately)