Kenny Britt=#1 Wr?

[Moderator 9]

the reason DHB is ranked higher is speed and ceiling. if he pans out, he's going to be dominate. but robiskie is consistent and probably doesn't have as high of a ceiling as DHB. however, he's still going to be pretty good. i think the only thing keeping him out of round 1 is talent at other positions. personally, i'd take robsikie over moving up to get crabtree or maclin, or taking DHB at 26. nicks, britt and robiskie all have their pluses, but you can't compare their consistency over their college careers. robiskie wins that hands down

[Ravensfan23]

[quote name='Moderator9' post='169475' date='Mar 17 2009, 11:32 AM']the reason DHB is ranked higher is speed and ceiling. if he pans out, he's going to be dominate. but robiskie is consistent and probably doesn't have as high of a ceiling as DHB. however, he's still going to be pretty good. i think the only thing keeping him out of round 1 is talent at other positions. personally, i'd take robsikie over moving up to get crabtree or maclin, or taking DHB at 26. nicks, britt and robiskie all have their pluses, but you can't compare their consistency over their college careers. [b]robiskie wins that hands down[/b][/quote]

I'm not sure what u mean by robiskie wins hands down. So i can't disagree or agree. I'm not sure if u mean because of his consistency he wins hands down, or because he's just better hands down. What exactly do u mean Mod 9?

[Reddawn36]

[quote name='Ravensfan23' post='169501' date='Mar 17 2009, 01:13 PM']I'm not sure what u mean by robiskie wins hands down. So i can't disagree or agree. I'm not sure if u mean because of his consistency he wins hands down, or because he's just better hands down. What exactly do u mean Mod 9?[/quote]

he means the consistency shown throughout college, his numbers stay relatively the same, where as someone like DHB (just using an example not sure how his #'s are) could have like 40 TD's in one year.... and like 15 the next.... where robiskie would be like 28, 27, 29, 30 (these are hypothetical #'s stating that now before someone goes nuts on me)

[Reddawn36]

[quote name='Moderator9' post='169475' date='Mar 17 2009, 11:32 AM']the reason DHB is ranked higher is speed and ceiling. if he pans out, he's going to be dominate. but robiskie is consistent and probably doesn't have as high of a ceiling as DHB. however, he's still going to be pretty good. i think the only thing keeping him out of round 1 is talent at other positions. personally, i'd take robsikie over moving up to get crabtree or maclin, or taking DHB at 26. nicks, britt and robiskie all have their pluses, but you can't compare their consistency over their college careers. robiskie wins that hands down[/quote]

we'd have to move up someway some how in the 2nd round to get him though, especially depending how Cincy clevelend and oakland pick in first round, if they choose not to pick up a WR in round 1 they've got their eye's on this guy, he'll def be gone before we pick in round 2..... if the NE trade for peppers doesn't go through, see what we can do for that one

[Moderator 9]

consistency is exactly what i mean....but i don't mean stats. stats only tell a tiny part of the game. he's a consistent player. he consistently gets open, consistently catches the ball, and is reliable to do both.

[Reddawn36]

[quote name='Moderator9' post='169710' date='Mar 17 2009, 06:33 PM']consistency is exactly what i mean....but i don't mean stats. stats only tell a tiny part of the game. he's a consistent player. he consistently gets open, consistently catches the ball, and is reliable to do both.[/quote]

ya, i am generally bad at explaining what other people mean, and that was best way i could think of

[markorad]

Britt should be the next TO minus some of the baggage

[RoflDogs]

Robiskie is not the epitome of consistency because he kinda sucked his last year at Ohio State, but that is probably the fault of having Terrele Pryor at QB

[Ravensfan23]

[quote name='markorad' post='170071' date='Mar 18 2009, 02:24 PM']Britt should be the next TO minus some of the baggage[/quote]

I think that is a decent comparison. I feel that he is/was the most consistent WR about of all the ones projected in the first 2 rounds. The kid progressed in every season at Rutgers and always seemed to be overlooked. I think the fact that he played in an offense similar to that of the pros only helps him.

Unlike guys who shot up after a huge bowl game, or has good workouts but not very good production, Britt has been consistent throught out. His freshmen year he showed flashes, then in his Soph year he stepped up as a #1 and his final year he showed that he could handle being the main attraction of an offense and still produce despite the added attention.

The more and more i put what i saw on the field to what i read about this kid, the more i feel he is the prefect fit for the Ravens. I think with all the attention that guys like DHB,Harvin,Nicks and even Robiskie are getting Britt will fall and somone will come away with a 1st round WR in the second round. I wouldn't be at all mad if the Ravens saw fit to use the #26 pick on him, but ultimately i don't think we will have to. I think we will be able to trade out(if someone is willing) and select Britt around the late 30s.

[Moderator 9]

[quote name='RoflDogs' post='170086' date='Mar 18 2009, 03:08 PM']Robiskie is not the epitome of consistency because he kinda sucked his last year at Ohio State, but that is probably the fault of having Terrele Pryor at QB[/quote]

sucked is such a strong word. he didn't have a BAD season at all. he didn't play poorly. the only thing you could point out is a decline in numbers from the previous year. and yes, terrell pryor has EVERYTHING to do with it. the kid was a true freshman that was just figuring out how to read a defense....not to mention he preferred to run first, then throw.

[Reddawn36]

now a "professional" mock draft with percy harvin coming to the ravens.... i wouldn't mind it, being a gators fan and all [url="http://www.nfl.com/draft/story?id=09000d5d80f53f26&template=with-video-with-comments&confirm=true"]http://www.nfl.com/draft/story?id=09000d5d...mp;confirm=true[/url]

[Ravensfan23]

[quote name='Moderator9' post='170210' date='Mar 18 2009, 08:29 PM']sucked is such a strong word. he didn't have a BAD season at all. he didn't play poorly. the only thing you could point out is a decline in numbers from the previous year. and yes, terrell pryor has EVERYTHING to do with it. the kid was a true freshman that was just figuring out how to read a defense....not to mention he preferred to run first, then throw.[/quote]

Robiskie is a solid WR no doubt and he is one of those guys that u can really blame his production on his QB. I think he will be a very solid #2 option in the NFL. I feel he used the senior bowl to his advantage being the only one of the other top 7 that was elgible. I'm not too sure that he would have stood out as much if the other 6 WRs were at the senior bowl.

I think given the chance he will be a really good NFL WR, but will probably never be viewed as a top 10 or a pro bowl type. However if he goes to a system that already has that #1 type guy then he will shine. I would say like a peerless price(not in status) or Mushin Muhammad, these guys had some pretty good years as #2s but nothing really great, then when given the chance to be the #1 guy for another team they don't have the same type of success.

I think Robiskie will be a great addition to any team, but i don't think he will ever turn out to be that guy, if that makes any sense.

[Reddawn36]

3 WR i think we should definately look into (2 of them im slightly bias towards)

Percy Harvin
Brian Robiskie
and
Louis Murphy

and for the TE i think Ingram will be good


yayaya.... i know some of those picks are like What the heck... but still gotta support my gators and i think they will all perform pretty solid from where they are picked

[Ravensfan23]

[quote name='Reddawn36' post='170295' date='Mar 18 2009, 11:45 PM']3 WR i think we should definately look into (2 of them im slightly bias towards)

Percy Harvin
Brian Robiskie
and
Louis Murphy

and for the TE i think Ingram will be good


yayaya.... i know some of those picks are like What the heck... but still gotta support my gators and i think they will all perform pretty solid from where they are picked[/quote]

I really like Ingram(hate that he played for UF, FSU guy here)i was really disappointed that he got hurt and couldn't compete in 2008. I think he would be a good addition for the Ravens. Spend a couple years behind Heap learning the offense and slowly working his way onto the field.

I just got finish writting a post about Brandon Tate, and i think he and Ingram are very similar(not in play). It sounds selfish to say but i think their injuries will be a blessing for some team, because they will be getting 2 guys with 1st round talent sometime later in the draft. I'm not sure UF was the offense to showcase Ingram the best, but i think he will do really well in the NFL.

[Reddawn36]

[quote name='Ravensfan23' post='170307' date='Mar 19 2009, 12:40 AM']I really like Ingram(hate that he played for UF, FSU guy here)i was really disappointed that he got hurt and couldn't compete in 2008. I think he would be a good addition for the Ravens. Spend a couple years behind Heap learning the offense and slowly working his way onto the field.

I just got finish writting a post about Brandon Tate, and i think he and Ingram are very similar(not in play). It sounds selfish to say but i think their injuries will be a blessing for some team, because they will be getting 2 guys with 1st round talent sometime later in the draft. I'm not sure UF was the offense to showcase Ingram the best, but i think he will do really well in the NFL.[/quote]

the part that i really like about the kid, isn't his #'s, isn't the possibility that he could play for the ravens, or that he got injured...... nor (unfortunately) is it that he's a gator

but it is.... the fact that he [b][i][u]BEGGED[/b][/i][/u] to play in the championship game

EDIT:

That is what really tells me alot about him, the fact that he wants to play even if he is injured... tells u he's a team player

[BloodRaven]

Britt is more a #2 guy, he could be an automatic 1st down and maybe red zone guy but he doesnt really have moves or real separation.

[Ravensfan23]

[quote name='BloodRaven' post='170349' date='Mar 19 2009, 05:24 AM']Britt is more a #2 guy, he could be an automatic 1st down and maybe red zone guy but he doesnt really have moves or real separation.[/quote]

Well he really doesn't need moves, because his size/srength and deceptive speed allows him to gain big yardage after the catch. Saying he doesn't gain "real" separation is an untrue tag in my opinion. He gets good separation because he runs good routes. In the NFL u don't see guys wide open very often unless it's a blown coverage. Once again because he uses his size and srength well, he's able to dominate 1on1 coverage. Many people think he doesn't have the speed to again separation at the next level from Safeties i disagree, the guys is a long strider and eats up space and turf quickly.

Many of the weakness' that people are sticking to Britt, sounds very similar to the things they said about guys like T.O, Ftiz, Andre Johnson, Burgress Marshall, even a guy like Steven Smith, none of these guys were really credited for the ability to gain separation and all of them have worked there way into #1 WRs. Now does that mean Britt will? No, but my personal opinion is he can.

Britt is a playmaker but not as flashy as the other guys projected to go in round one. He is quitely put up one of the best seasons as a college WR this season, but no one really noticed. You can't compare college numbers to the NFL, but 7 striaght 100 yard recieving games is very impressive. The guy has beating double coverage consistently and conitnued to make plays.

On a flip side, i would have like to see more scoring numbers for Britt, but i wouldn't see that hurting him at the NFL level. My biggest concern or the question i would like to ask the Kid before i drafted him is about his 1 game suspension. He seemed to step up and become the player and teammate that everyone in Rutgers expected him to be after that. My question would be my did it take that situation to get him motivated. In 07 they were winning so it's easy to be motivated, but in 08 they started off slow and after his suspension he started to be the leader they needed.

AS for being a #1 who do u think will be a #1 out of this draft and why?

[RoflDogs]

[quote name='Ravensfan23' post='170377' date='Mar 19 2009, 09:49 AM']Well he really doesn't need moves, because his size/srength and deceptive speed allows him to gain big yardage after the catch. Saying he doesn't gain "real" separation is an untrue tag in my opinion. He gets good separation because he runs good routes. In the NFL u don't see guys wide open very often unless it's a blown coverage. Once again because he uses his size and srength well, he's able to dominate 1on1 coverage. Many people think he doesn't have the speed to again separation at the next level from Safeties i disagree, the guys is a long strider and eats up space and turf quickly.

Many of the weakness' that people are sticking to Britt, sounds very similar to the things they said about guys like T.O, Ftiz, Andre Johnson,[b] Burgress Marshall[/b], even a guy like Steven Smith, none of these guys were really credited for the ability to gain separation and all of them have worked there way into #1 WRs. Now does that mean Britt will? No, but my personal opinion is he can.

Britt is a playmaker but not as flashy as the other guys projected to go in round one. He is quitely put up one of the best seasons as a college WR this season, but no one really noticed. You can't compare college numbers to the NFL, but 7 striaght 100 yard recieving games is very impressive. The guy has beating double coverage consistently and conitnued to make plays.

On a flip side, i would have like to see more scoring numbers for Britt, but i wouldn't see that hurting him at the NFL level. My biggest concern or the question i would like to ask the Kid before i drafted him is about his 1 game suspension. He seemed to step up and become the player and teammate that everyone in Rutgers expected him to be after that. My question would be my did it take that situation to get him motivated. In 07 they were winning so it's easy to be motivated, but in 08 they started off slow and after his suspension he started to be the leader they needed.

AS for being a #1 who do u think will be a #1 out of this draft and why?[/quote]


He is Brandon Marshall (I kinda loled at steven smith cause you used his full name)
I agree with most of your comments
Britt runs crisp routes and is sneaky fast because of his long strides
He can become the number 1 receiver imo
People talk about his "off the field problems" when he only had one isolated incident and he truly changed heart after that.

The only problem I have with britt is that he didn't catch a lot of jump balls at Rutgers despite his large frame

[BloodRaven]

[quote name='Ravensfan23' post='170377' date='Mar 19 2009, 10:49 AM']Well he really doesn't need moves, because his size/srength and deceptive speed allows him to gain big yardage after the catch. Saying he doesn't gain "real" separation is an untrue tag in my opinion. He gets good separation because he runs good routes. In the NFL u don't see guys wide open very often unless it's a blown coverage. Once again because he uses his size and srength well, he's able to dominate 1on1 coverage. Many people think he doesn't have the speed to again separation at the next level from Safeties i disagree, the guys is a long strider and eats up space and turf quickly.

Many of the weakness' that people are sticking to Britt, sounds very similar to the things they said about guys like T.O, Ftiz, Andre Johnson, Burgress Marshall, even a guy like Steven Smith, none of these guys were really credited for the ability to gain separation and all of them have worked there way into #1 WRs. Now does that mean Britt will? No, but my personal opinion is he can.

Britt is a playmaker but not as flashy as the other guys projected to go in round one. He is quitely put up one of the best seasons as a college WR this season, but no one really noticed. You can't compare college numbers to the NFL, but 7 striaght 100 yard recieving games is very impressive. The guy has beating double coverage consistently and conitnued to make plays.

On a flip side, i would have like to see more scoring numbers for Britt, but i wouldn't see that hurting him at the NFL level. My biggest concern or the question i would like to ask the Kid before i drafted him is about his 1 game suspension. He seemed to step up and become the player and teammate that everyone in Rutgers expected him to be after that. My question would be my did it take that situation to get him motivated. In 07 they were winning so it's easy to be motivated, but in 08 they started off slow and after his suspension he started to be the leader they needed.

AS for being a #1 who do u think will be a #1 out of this draft and why?[/quote]

T.O, Johnson, Fitz, Marshall are all faster in pads than Britt. What I didnt like from the gametape is he catches then runs right into defenders and goes down, long strider or not he does seem pretty stiff.

As for me, the number one guy is Crabtree.

[Bazooka Joe]

As I said in another post, if we don;t get DHB in round one, then take Kenny Briit and then draft Tiquan Underwood later in the draft.

[Lets_Go_Joe]

[quote name='Reddawn36' post='170282' date='Mar 18 2009, 11:10 PM']now a "professional" mock draft with percy harvin coming to the ravens.... i wouldn't mind it, being a gators fan and all [url="http://www.nfl.com/draft/story?id=09000d5d80f53f26&template=with-video-with-comments&confirm=true"]http://www.nfl.com/draft/story?id=09000d5d...mp;confirm=true[/url][/quote]
Please Lord no to Percy Harvin. Him and Clayton would be like clones.... no thanks. 2 Injury prone guys who are small and fast.....

[quote name='BloodRaven' post='170939' date='Mar 20 2009, 08:59 PM']T.O, Johnson, Fitz, Marshall are all faster in pads than Britt. What I didnt like from the gametape is he catches then runs right into defenders and goes down, long strider or not he does seem pretty stiff.

As for me, the number one guy is Crabtree.[/quote]

He probably agrees Crabtree is the #1 guy in the draft, but he is saying Britt could be a solid #1 Receiver in the NFL. If we had to choose Crab or Britt I am sure 99/100 would pick Crab, but we know hes going to be gone, so what I think hes saying is hes the true #1 type guy we have a shot at getting at 26.