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The Scoop: Met Joe Flacco & His Agent

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[quote name='RavensIQ' post='165732' date='Mar 7 2009, 01:05 PM']I didn't even take the time to read past the 1st 2 sentences cause obviously you have no clue what you're talking about. If you think for one second the Jets are a team to sleep on next year you're foolish.

Their defense is gonna be sick. But it's cute tho that you tried to put up an argument for why you think otherwise. I would respond more thoughtfully, but, I don't feel like wasting my time.

The numerous amount of times I've been right on this message board is ridiculous. I'm like the football Nastradamus up in this BIA. Don't believe me, go back to June and read my posts about the 08 season b4 it started. Take my word on it: The Jets will be a top 10 defense in both the run and pass for the 09 season.

I'm the guy that said the Titans would win their division and that their defense would be no joke this year...b4 training camp. I even predicted the Ravens to go 11-5. Not to Brag or anything B)[/quote]


hahaha, so whats the Ravens record going to be this year?
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[quote name='3Zach21' post='165796' date='Mar 7 2009, 04:33 PM']hahaha, so whats the Ravens record going to be this year?[/quote]

I would also like to know who will get hurt, with what injuries, and how long they will be out. :lol:
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The guy who started this thread said he got all of his info from Flacco's agent. It says it right in his post. Don't know how accurate it is...but who knows. Holt sounds good as a Raven though :)
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[quote name='ItFigurs16' post='165812' date='Mar 7 2009, 05:20 PM']The guy who started this thread said he got all of his info from Flacco's agent. It says it right in his post. Don't know how accurate it is...but who knows. Holt sounds good as a Raven though :)[/quote]

I don't know how true it is, but it's gossip this is what it's suppose to do. Get us talking. However i'm sure if Flacco's agent knew about Holt being in the build then atleast one media member was witness to it as well and we would have heard something.

Maybe Ozzie and the Ravens have a circle of trust when it comes to imformation like this and know one opens there mouths. I highly doubt it, but hey stranger things have happend
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Like I said before, Holt would be a great fit here, and thank goodness we don't have to talk about T.O. any more..
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[quote name='the_PICKle' post='165789' date='Mar 7 2009, 04:21 PM']I'm glad you like to spend all your time reflecting on how you think your a football genius. :rolleyes:[/quote]
Now, if we took the time to reflect on [i]my[/i] superior football intellect and the number of things I've gotten right, we wouldn't ever get anything done!... :lol:

(j/k) ;)
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[quote name='RavensIQ' post='165714' date='Mar 7 2009, 11:54 AM']Who exactly told you this stuff? I find it kinda ironic that some random guy from a fan message board has 1st hand insider sources telling him things that the major press hasn't even heard about yet. I mean if Torry Holt was really in our facility, how hush-hush could it have possibly been if [i]YOU[/i] know about it?

I mean seriously, if Torry Holt was working out in our facility don't you think [i]somebody[/i] would have saw him? Maybe he was, and maybe you're 100% correct, I just find it odd that "shadowalker" has managed to come away from a convention with leaked inside information that nobody else could get. Were there no reporters there? Why hasn't this been reported yet?

And p.s. how the hell did you get a quote from coach Harbaugh on a potential free agent that we're interested in? Isn't that outside the code of the Ravens FO?[/quote]

Listen IQ you cant question my info all you want but that was Joe Flacco's agent. Question my credibility all you want that was his agent. He spoke for him during the auction and introduced himself as his agent to a room of 400 people with a name tag and during his speech. Its what he told me and I could care less if you believe it or not. Im just trying to inform everyone on here. If you feel my source is invalid then so be it. Theres plenty of other posts for you to read. Read it carefully the quote was said by his agent "Harbs didn't like him" thats what Joe Linta said not what Coach said.
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[quote name='Shadowalker' post='165877' date='Mar 7 2009, 10:04 PM']Its what he told me and I could care less if you believe it or not. Im just trying to inform everyone on here. If you feel my source is invalid then so be it.[/quote]
Plus, you [i]did[/i] say it was gossip anyway. It's not like you're saying you're the new Adam Schefter or anything.
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[quote name='RavensIQ' post='165732' date='Mar 7 2009, 01:05 PM']I didn't even take the time to read past the 1st 2 sentences cause obviously you have no clue what you're talking about. If you think for one second the Jets are a team to sleep on next year you're foolish.

Their defense is gonna be sick. But it's cute tho that you tried to put up an argument for why you think otherwise. I would respond more thoughtfully, but, I don't feel like wasting my time.

The numerous amount of times I've been right on this message board is ridiculous. I'm like the football Nastradamus up in this BIA. Don't believe me, go back to June and read my posts about the 08 season b4 it started. Take my word on it: The Jets will be a top 10 defense in both the run and pass for the 09 season.

I'm the guy that said the Titans would win their division and that their defense would be no joke this year...b4 training camp. I even predicted the Ravens to go 11-5. Not to Brag or anything B)[/quote]

Thats kinda what you're doing is bragging...
I think the Jets D will be good this year, but I just don't see them being "sick" in one year with a brand new defensive system and two guys who know it. Give it at least another year under Rex's system and I'll agree...

Would love to see Torry Holt here if we can get him at a reasonable price, but I doubt he was in Maryland. What will probably happen is the Rams will grant him his release, he is due for a big bonus here very soon and they will let him go before having to shell that out. At that point, it will be interesting to see what happens...
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[quote name='Shadowalker' post='165877' date='Mar 7 2009, 10:04 PM']Listen IQ you cant question my info all you want but that was Joe Flacco's agent. Question my credibility all you want that was his agent. He spoke for him during the auction and introduced himself as his agent to a room of 400 people with a name tag and during his speech. Its what he told me and I could care less if you believe it or not. Im just trying to inform everyone on here. If you feel my source is invalid then so be it. Theres plenty of other posts for you to read. Read it carefully the quote was said by his agent "Harbs didn't like him" thats what Joe Linta said not what Coach said.[/quote]

I'm not calling you a liar or anything like that dude, I'm just saying. If you can find out about Torry Holt, Paymah, Troy Smith, ect...then how come the media hasn't picked up on this yet? :huh:

That's like going to a huge church and seeing angels come down from heaven carrying Jesus on their shoulders b4 everyone in the congregation, but for whatever reason, you're the ONLY ONE that has decided to tell somebody else about it, bcuz for whatever reason...you're the only one that saw the thing happen.

Did Flacco's agent take a special liking to you? Did you bat your eyes and give him a wink when nobody was looking? ;) You could be right, but who knows? Just a lil odd that you're the only that knows about it. Unless I'm mistaken and none of it is truly news worthy? Yeah, now that I think about it, Torry Holt to the Ravens doesn't sound like it would make for an interesting story anyway...

Plus, it's pretty Odd that Torry Holt was granted permission to seek a trade and NOOOOBODY in St.Louis has heard anything about it. Yet somehow they have managed to keep it so secretive, for so long from the press, that you're the only one that they trusted enough to bestow this information to. Bcuz...I guess...they must have really liked your eyes??:rolleyes:
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[quote name='RavensIQ' post='165896' date='Mar 7 2009, 11:53 PM']I'm not calling you a liar or anything like that dude, I'm just saying. If you can find out about Torry Holt, Paymah, Troy Smith, ect...then how come the media hasn't picked up on this yet? :huh:

That's like going to a huge church and seeing angels come down from heaven carrying Jesus on their shoulders b4 everyone in the congregation, but for whatever reason, you're the ONLY ONE that has decided to tell somebody else about it, bcuz for whatever reason...you're the only one that saw the thing happen.

Did Flacco's agent take a special liking to you? Did you bat your eyes and give him a wink when nobody was looking? You could be right, but who knows? Just a lil odd that you're the only that knows about it. Unless I'm mistaken and none of it is truly news worthy? Yeah, now that I think about it, Torry Holt to the Ravens doesn't sound like it would make for an interesting story anyway...

Plus, it's pretty Odd that Torry Holt was granted permission to seek a trade and NOOOOBODY in St.Louis has heard anything about it. Yet somehow they have managed to keep so secretive, for so long from the press, that you're the only one that they trusted enough to bestow this information to. Bcuz...I guess...they must have really liked your eyes??:rolleyes:[/quote]

What's your problem man. Yeah guys jokes on you Im making all this up just to get a few responds and giggles. If you dont like my post then dont freaking read it. Easy as that! If you think im lying then I have video to prove it. But if I show you I might have to laugh at you silly. If anyone besides this jerk wants to see a video clip message me. Actually ask RayLewis.52 ^ he was there hell vouch. You know what your not even worth my time.
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If I were a ref, I would penalize you both for unsportsmanlike conduct.

B) Okay I know it's a bad joke, so let's forget about it and get back on topic. Were you able to ask Joe any of the user submitted questions from the other thread?
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[quote name='darklight1216' post='165905' date='Mar 8 2009, 12:21 AM']If I were a ref, I would penalize you both for unsportsmanlike conduct.

B) Okay I know it's a bad joke, so let's forget about it and get back on topic. Were you able to ask Joe any of the user submitted questions from the other thread?[/quote]

I asked him what his favorite Nickname was and he answered

"I've been called so many nicknames I'll respond to anything"

I also asked what his major was in college

He said it was accounting :)

I finally asked why he kept getting asked T.O. questions wile he was on ESPN

He humbly said "they were just doing their job"
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[quote name='Shadowalker' post='165908' date='Mar 8 2009, 12:37 AM']I also asked what his major was in college

He said it was accounting :)[/quote]
Could've just looked that one up online or asked someone else here instead, mannnn..."wasted" a question in-person...well, not really, but still...lol.
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[quote name='Shadowalker' post='165908' date='Mar 8 2009, 12:37 AM']I asked him what his favorite Nickname was and he answered

"I've been called so many nicknames I'll respond to anything"

I also asked what his major was in college

He said it was accounting :)

I finally asked why he kept getting asked T.O. questions wile he was on ESPN

He humbly said "they were just doing their job"[/quote]

That's very interesting, thanks for asking him.
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[quote name='r.lewis52' post='165895' date='Mar 8 2009, 12:45 AM']hey im in that pik with you man wuts up[/quote]

I'm in need of a translation...
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[quote name='theFRANCHISE' post='165872' date='Mar 7 2009, 09:56 PM']Now, if we took the time to reflect on [i]my[/i] superior football intellect and the number of things I've gotten right, we wouldn't ever get anything done!... :lol:

(j/k) ;)[/quote]

:lol: The people here sure do love you! You must be doing something right.
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[quote name='RavensIQ' post='165711' date='Mar 7 2009, 12:47 PM']Well for 1 I said they will become one of the leagues best defenses this year. I said [b]IF[/b] they draft Tyson Jackson in the 1st they will become a top 5 defense.

And this is why:

[u]CB[/u]
Darrelle Revis (Pro Bowl CB)
Lito Shepard (Pro Bowl CB)
Ty Law (Pro Bowl CB)

[u]S[/u]
Kerry Rhodes (Pro Bowl FS)
Jim Leonhard (we all know what he can do)

[u]LB[/u]
Bart Scott (Pro Bowl LB)
David Harris
Vernon Gholston (w/Rex = monster)



[u]DL[/u]
Shaun Ellis (Pro Bowl DE)
Kris Jenkins (Pro Bowl DT)
+ Tyson Jackson = dominance out the yang
Possibly Marques Douglas

Oh yeah, just to throw this out there....REX RYAN :mellow:[/quote]

This breakdown of the Jets is laughable. You honestly think that adding Bart Scott,Jim Leonard, Lito Sheppard, Tyson Jackson ( [u][b]A ROOKIE)[/b][/u]make this team go up to a top 5 defense after being ranked 16th last year? The same Lito Sheppard that was 4th on the depth chart in Philly by the end of the season is going to make this passing defense improve over the 29th ranked squad last year? You also think a rookie defensive end is going to have that big of a impact in his 1st year? Do you realize that most rookie defensive ends hardly even make an impact on a team in their 1st year? Since Rex is their, Gholston is all of the sudden going to be a monster? I find it hard to believe that a defense that wasn't even close to great last year is going to be a top 5 defense.
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[quote name='3Zach21' post='165796' date='Mar 7 2009, 04:33 PM']hahaha, so whats the Ravens record going to be this year?[/quote]


13-3

Ya heard it hear first!
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You guys need to chill. Shadow has been a member on this site for a pretty long time, and not once can I recall him making a post in an effort to grab attention and/or get a reaction. You can doubt some of these things actually happening, i.e. Holt being in Baltimore, but don't personally attack the poster as he has a good record, and even posted pictures of being at the event.

I realize that I may be jumping the gun as pictures with players =/= talking to an agent, but still.

By the way, I agree with Ravensfan23's breakdown of the Jets defense in most facets, but to summarize, Gholston, Leonhard, Law and Douglas are easily backups on our team, and Sheppard, Scott and Ellis still have a TON to prove. I could see that team sneaking into the top ten if everything goes according to plan, but they could easily regress as well. You cannot be a top five, maybe not even top ten, defense without a line, and the Jets most certainly do not have a Dline at this point.
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Torry Holt is still in contract for 45 mil there is no way he can come and work out because that would be tampering unless he is released. This is like samaries case. The reason he wants to be released is because he wants to sign before all the spots are taken.
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[quote name='Ravnet' post='165939' date='Mar 8 2009, 04:35 AM']You guys need to chill. Shadow has been a member on this site for a pretty long time, and not once can I recall him making a post in an effort to grab attention and/or get a reaction. You can doubt some of these things actually happening, i.e. Holt being in Baltimore, but don't personally attack the poster as he has a good record, and even posted pictures of being at the event.[/quote]

Thanks Ravnet!

I would like to just remind everyone and reiterate that I did state that this is gossip
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There's a difference between gossip and BS. I'm not trying to bust your balls I'm just saying it all seems a lil suspect to me. Not that it really matters. But for what my $.02 is worth, it is what it is.

Maybe your source is giving you the run around but all I know is 1+1=2 and when there's NOTHING on the net and NOTHING in the papers about any of this S.ugar H.oney I.ce T.ea, well, then, I tend to believe this stuff is made up. It would be nice if all of it was true but like I said, just seems a lil suspect...

But if this is a thread about made up secrets and BS gossip then I would just like to inform everyone that I've recently spoken with Bill Gates and he has instructed me to tell everyone here that you all have just won $1 Million Dollars. You'll be receiving your checks in the mail within the next week. No need to give me your addresses Bill Gates knows EVERYTHING!! Yes, I'm talking to you Justin!!
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[quote name='RavensIQ' post='166001' date='Mar 8 2009, 01:48 PM']There's a difference between gossip and BS. I'm not trying to bust your balls I'm just saying it all seems a lil suspect to me. Not that it really matters. But for what my $.02 is worth, it is what it is.

Maybe your source is giving you the run around but all I know is 1+1=2 and when there's NOTHING on the net and NOTHING in the papers about any of this S.ugar H.oney I.ce T.ea, well, then, I tend to believe this stuff is made up. It would be nice if all of it was true but like I said, just seems a lil suspect...

But if this is a thread about made up secrets and BS gossip then I would just like to inform everyone that I've recently spoken with Bill Gates and he has instructed me to tell everyone here that you all have just won $1 Million Dollars. You'll be receiving your checks in the mail within the next week. No need to give me your addresses Bill Gates knows EVERYTHING!! Yes, I'm talking to you Justin!![/quote]

That is all gossip is. BS. It gives u something to talk about. The man didn't say that any of this is fact, it was just something he heard.

The same way we all HEARD Ozzie matched an offer for Bart Scott, it was BS but it had everyone talking. Gossip is something that is unproven and means nothing until the facts are laid out.

All the Ray Lewis stuff this offseason was gossip rumors, and BS. All the money that the Cowboys was suppose to offer, Rex was suppose to go after him, Ware's comments, all BS because nothing actually came from Ray's mouth.

Gossip is designed to give u something to talk about and u beleive what u believe. I'm not one of the predominate posters on this board but i know right from wrong, and attackin someone for doing something that is done everyday, and for doing something that he thought was helpful is wrong.

If u disagree fine. But don't attack a man's or woman's character because he doesn't have solid proof, especially when he openly tells u that everything he says is GOSSIP.

p.s. i'm not singling you out I.Q just making a point.
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[size=2]We will not miss Rex Ryan at all. In this situation you have to search and find the common demonator. They once thought it was Marvin Lewis, he went on to be a head coach. Marvin Lewis' defense in Cinn. sucks. Then they thought it was Mike Nolan, everything in San Fran sucks. Now, they think its Rex Ryan. We've seen this over and over again. The Jets defense will suck. In 3 or 4 years our new defensive coordinator will recieve a head coaching job for the "great job" he is going to do with the defense.[/size]
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[quote name='Ravensfan23' post='165710' date='Mar 7 2009, 12:44 PM'][font="Arial Black"]Having one good deep pass against what was a bad Seahawks team[/font], plus a decent performance vs a Steelers team with there mind clearly on the playoff doesn't say much. I think given the time and effort under Cam and Hue, Troy could definately have success in the NFL as a QB.ssssss But make no mistake about it, no one is looking at Troy Smith to be their starting QB right now.

Also remember before the shoulder injury and the tonsil problem, Boller and Smith seemed to be neck and neck in the QB race last preseason, and many might argue that Boller outplayed Smith in the limited time.

Troy has a lot more to prove before he can be viewed upon as even a quality backup QB not to mention a starter. With proven guys like Leftwhich, Batch,Gracia, and even Anderson(who had a pro bowl season) still avalible i find it hard to beleive that anyone would come knocking for Troy Smith. I know Rex is the head coach but at some point the FO has to step in and say to him enough with the Ravens players.[/quote]
Dont forget His drow dropping numbers in the first half of that game, ZERO firstdowns BABY BOO YAH.
His lobb to Flacco last season was down right perfect though. I hope the Jets get Him and He starts, That way the Troy supporters and the Troy Doubters can all shut up and we can find out who knows what about Him. To me He's just another Vince Young or Kordell Stewart, one time they look good, the next they look terrable. At least there not as bad as Boller IMO, look like a top 5 QB in one game, and then look like the worst ever for 13 other games. 2 games He might have looked medicore at best.
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[quote name='smashmouth' post='166103' date='Mar 8 2009, 08:44 PM']Dont forget His drow dropping numbers in the first half of that game, ZERO firstdowns BABY BOO YAH.
His lobb to Flacco last season was down right perfect though. I hope the Jets get Him and He starts, That way the Troy supporters and the Troy Doubters can all shut up and we can find out who knows what about Him.[b] To me He's just another Vince Young or Kordell Stewart, one time they look good, the next they look terrable. [/b]At least there not as bad as Boller IMO, look like a top 5 QB in one game, and then look like the worst ever for 13 other games. 2 games He might have looked medicore at best.[/quote]

Isnt that the case with any young QB though? Smith has his bad moments and he has his good moments just like Flacco. Flacco wasnt perfect. I wish everyone would just stop choosing sides with these guys. Whether you love Flacco or Smith, it doesnt matter. The only important thing is we are set at QB, no matter what happens.
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