Terrel Owens Just Cut!

[theFRANCHISE]

[quote name='RavensIQ' post='164441' date='Mar 5 2009, 08:30 AM']Do NOT blame T.O.! It's not fair. [b]T.O. is not as bad as everyone makes him out to be.[/b] It's just easy to point the finger bcuz he's a big time player that unfortunately has always been on teams surrounded by controversy. This guy just wants to win. The media is the one who starts the drama. The Media is the one who starts the rumors.[/quote]
Sounds like Chad Johnson. Except Chad Johnson's not the one who questioned his previous QB's sexuality, mixed meds and suffered an accidental overdose, whined in public about not getting the ball enough yet failed to make a play once he had double-digit passes thrown his way soon thereafter, blamed his lack of productivity on the offensive coordinator scheming around other players, and is the main reason why celebrations are effectively banned in the NFL.

Oh, and did I mention that most of this was while going to the playoffs twice and compiling a 31-17 record with the Cowboys?

And in terms of T.O. wanting to win...well, in his career, his teams have gone an overall 126-82. He's only experienced 4 losing seasons, and has been to the playoffs 8 times in 13 seasons, with only 1 season (2008) in which his team posted a winning record but failed to reach the playoffs.

It's not as if the man has been on nothing but losing teams. If anything, Chad Johnson has more reason to be a **** than Terrell Owens; T.O. is just plain selfish.

[RoflDogs]

Realistically, He will be a Raider

lols, what if someone like the Patriots get him??
that would just not be fair

[bigZ2222]

[quote name='RoflDogs' post='164467' date='Mar 5 2009, 09:01 AM']Realistically, He will be a Raider

lols, what if someone like the Patriots get him??
that would just not be fair[/quote]

they cleared alot of cap space and to have t.o moss and welker on 1 line is scary

[Whitty Hutton]

Ravens better get him just for the fact that if New England or Indy gets him it's over

[darklight1216]

[quote name='Whitty Hutton' post='164477' date='Mar 5 2009, 09:15 AM']Ravens better get him just for the fact that if New England or Indy gets him it's over[/quote]

The Ravens are just fine without him. Who needs all that drama?

[RavensIQ]

[quote name='theFRANCHISE' post='164460' date='Mar 5 2009, 08:53 AM']Sounds like Chad Johnson. Except Chad Johnson's not the one who questioned his previous QB's sexuality, mixed meds and suffered an accidental overdose, [b](1)whined in public about not getting the ball enough yet failed to make a play once he had double-digit passes thrown his way soon thereafter, blamed his lack of productivity on the offensive coordinator scheming around other players,[/b] and [b](2)is the main reason why celebrations are effectively banned in the NFL[/b].

Oh, and did I mention that most of this was while going to the playoffs twice and compiling a 31-17 record with the Cowboys?

[b](3)And in terms of T.O. wanting to win...well, in his career, his teams have gone an overall 126-82. He's only experienced 4 losing seasons, and has been to the playoffs 8 times in 13 seasons, with only 1 season (2008) in which his team posted a winning record but failed to reach the playoffs.[/b]

It's not as if the man has been on nothing but losing teams. If anything, Chad Johnson has more reason to be a **** than Terrell Owens; T.O. is just plain selfish.[/quote]


(1) Honestly, was he wrong? He's the most dominant WR in the league, so what if he drops a couple passes, he should have had EVERY ball thrown his way, are you kidding me. Seriously, how far from the truth is that statement? Can you blame him? It's not like he was making the stuff up and telling a lie. It's not like he was Keenan McCardell saying those things. He IS TERRELL OWENS (the most dominant wr in the league). The Cowboys did NOT use him properly. They did NOT get the ball to him as much as they should have. The did NOT utilize his talents. Jason Garrett even admitted it.

Is it arrogance and boastfulness or is it the truth? T.O. said give me the ball and we'll win. Seriously, was he lying when he said that?

(2) T.O. is NOT the reason for banned celebrations. T.O. is the [i]reason[/i] for the reemergence of great celebrations. Don't act like you didn't enjoy them. Don't act like you were never a T.O. fan secretly rooting for him when he wasn't facing the Ravens. Remember the Vick-T.O. commercial? Don't act like you were never an Owens fan. But back to the celebrations. Chad Johnson's I dont give a whaa fine me I'm gonna do my celebrations regardless attitude is the reason why the league banned celebrations. How many people tried to out do the previous celebration (Joe Horn's lame Cellphone routine)? Don't blame T.O.

It's amazing how many things people can find to blame T.O. for.

(3)And how many championships does he have? How much bling bling is he rocking on his fingers? Winning means nothing if you don't come away with a Championship. Yo don't play the game to just to have a good record at the end of the season. You play to be a champion. Look at Philly. Look at McNabb. 5 NFC championship games, 1 superbowl, and still it's not enough. It means nothing. All that winning and yet Philadelphia is still not happy.

T.O. wants to WIN (a superbowl). I know EXACTLY how T.O. feels about winning bcuz I'm HUUUGE competitor. I HATE losing more than I love winning. I don't play for the satisfaction of winning I play to prove to you I am better than you. T.O. is the ultimate competitor on the Ultimate stage. Winning Losing means everything.

I can beat you 99 times in a game of basketball or whatever, but that 1 time I lose wipes it all way for me. That's how much I love competing. If you don't yearn for competition then you'll never know what it feels like. I completely understand T.O. and to be honest I don't blame him.

[darklight1216]

Whether or not Oz is even interested in TO is anyone's guess; I'm just hoping that Dallas didn't cut him because they are trying to get Ray.

[bigZ2222]

[quote name='RavensIQ' post='164480' date='Mar 5 2009, 09:22 AM'](1) Honestly, was he wrong? He's the most dominant WR in the league, so what if he drops a couple passes, he should have had EVERY ball thrown his way, are you kidding me. Seriously, how far from the truth is that statement? Can you blame him? It's not like he was making the stuff up and telling a lie. It's not like he was Keenan McCardell saying those things. He IS TERRELL OWENS (the most dominant wr in the league). The Cowboys did NOT use him properly. They did NOT get the ball to him as much as they should have. The did NOT utilize his talents. Jason Garrett even admitted it.

Is it arrogance and boastfulness or is it the truth? T.O. said give me the ball and we'll win. Seriously, was he lying when he said that?

(2) T.O. is NOT the reason for banned celebrations. T.O. is the [i]reason[/i] for the reemergence of great celebrations. Don't act like you didn't enjoy them. Don't act like you were never a T.O. fan secretly rooting for him when he wasn't facing the Ravens. Remember the Vick-T.O. commercial? Don't act like you were never an Owens fan. But back to the celebrations. Chad Johnson's I dont give a whaa fine me I'm gonna do my celebrations regardless attitude is the reason why the league banned celebrations. How many people tried to out do the previous celebration (Joe Horn's lame Cellphone routine)? Don't blame T.O.

It's amazing how many things people can find to blame T.O. for.

(3)And how many championships does he have? How much bling bling is he rocking on his fingers? Winning means nothing if you don't come away with a Championship. Yo don't play the game to just to have a good record at the end of the season. You play to be a champion. Look at Philly. Look at McNabb. 5 NFC championship games, 1 superbowl, and still it's not enough. It means nothing. All that winning and yet Philadelphia is still not happy.

T.O. wants to WIN (a superbowl). I know EXACTLY how T.O. feels about winning bcuz I'm HUUUGE competitor. I HATE losing more than I love winning. I don't play for the satisfaction of winning I play to prove to you I am better than you. T.O. is the ultimate competitor on the Ultimate stage. Winning Losing means everything.

I can beat you 99 times in a game of basketball or whatever, but that 1 time I lose wipes it all way for me. That's how much I love competing. If you don't yearn for competition then you'll never know what it feels like. I completely understand T.O. and to be honest I don't blame him.[/quote]

that was very good your a better speaker then obama hows that for competition

[PIG 20]

It won't happen. We don't need a disruption like that. If the Cowboys are desperate enough to cut the guy, then it must be pretty bad.

Why not try and trade him? At least get something out of it. Instead they cut him? This is why an owner can't be the guy making the football decisions.

[theFRANCHISE]

[quote name='RavensIQ' post='164480' date='Mar 5 2009, 09:22 AM'](1) Honestly, was he wrong? He's the most dominant WR in the league, so what if he drops a couple passes, he should have had EVERY ball thrown his way, are you kidding me.[/quote]First off, "the most dominant WR" in the league is a subjective statement. To me, dominance lies in production. In which case, guys like Larry Fitzgerald and Andre Johnson get top billing.

[quote name='RavensIQ' post='164480' date='Mar 5 2009, 09:22 AM'](2) T.O. is NOT the reason for banned celebrations. T.O. is the [i]reason[/i] for the reemergence of great celebrations. Don't act like you didn't enjoy them. Don't act like you were never a T.O. fan secretly rooting for him when he wasn't facing the Ravens. Remember the Vick-T.O. commercial? Don't act like you were never an Owens fan. But back to the celebrations. Chad Johnson's I dont give a whaa fine me I'm gonna do my celebrations regardless attitude is the reason why the league banned celebrations. How many people tried to out do the previous celebration (Joe Horn's lame Cellphone routine)? Don't blame T.O.

It's amazing how many things people can find to blame T.O. for.[/quote]Chad Johnson's celebrations were never disrespectful to his opponent. Steve Smith's celebrations were borderline. Terrell Owens was just plain being a jerk. There was a quote that I wish I could track down where an NFL owner/executive nicknamed the celebration rule the "Terrell Owens rule."

[quote name='RavensIQ' post='164480' date='Mar 5 2009, 09:22 AM'](3)And how many championships does he have? How much bling bling is he rocking on his fingers? Winning means nothing if you don't come away with a Championship.[/quote]
So does that mean Dan Marino is a loser? Jim Kelly? Thurman Thomas? Barry Sanders? Warren Moon? Deacon Jones? Dan Fouts? I mean, if winning means nothing without a championship, then the opposite of winning is losing, right? Or, in this case, being a loser?

Yes, you play to win a championship -- but there are so many Super Bowl champions, and it's inevitable that there will only be a select few to walk away from the game with a Super Bowl ring. Of course T.O. wants to be part of that group -- but so does every other competitor in the league. Does that make them less of a competitor for having never won a Super Bowl?

Super Bowls [i]are[/i] a [u]team[/u] effort, after all. Terrell Owens is not the team, but he'd certainly like to [i]think[/i] he is...

Another point that people easily forget: every stop along the way, Terrell Owens has had the benefit of a Pro Bowl QB. Steve Young, Jeff Garcia, Donovan McNabb, Tony Romo...and these are guys that have played well and gone to Pro Bowls even [i]without[/i] T.O., so you can't say their success is entirely because of him. Even in the case of Romo, strangely enough.

[bigZ2222]

i dont care who we sign because i dont own the ravens i love watching but as long as we dont sign pacman im content

[FlaccoFlicker]

interesting mike and mike predictions were either titans or redskins for t.o.

[theFRANCHISE]

[quote name='FlaccoFlicker' post='164497' date='Mar 5 2009, 10:01 AM']interesting mike and mike predictions were either titans or redskins for t.o.[/quote]
Redskins only because of the $$$ and because they would like an advantage in the division.

Titans only because they need a big-play receiver -- and Nate Washington and Justin Gage aren't it.

[BrownsFan]

Maybe T.O. and Donovan can have a "heart-to-heart" and reunite.

[Marc2k6]

"(2) T.O. is NOT the reason for banned celebrations. T.O. is the reason for the reemergence of great celebrations. Don't act like you didn't enjoy them. Don't act like you were never a T.O. fan secretly rooting for him when he wasn't facing the Ravens. Remember the Vick-T.O. commercial? Don't act like you were never an Owens fan. But back to the celebrations. Chad Johnson's I dont give a whaa fine me I'm gonna do my celebrations regardless attitude is the reason why the league banned celebrations. How many people tried to out do the previous celebration (Joe Horn's lame Cellphone routine)? Don't blame T.O."

You have to admit the Sharpie celebration was the best!

[theFRANCHISE]

[quote name='BrownsFan' post='164506' date='Mar 5 2009, 10:07 AM']Maybe T.O. and Donovan can have a "heart-to-heart" and reunite. [/quote]
They'll hit each other up tonight and sing a little Kumbaya. Over the phone, of course. Not in person. They're not ready for that yet.

[BrownsFan]

[quote name='theFRANCHISE' post='164509' date='Mar 5 2009, 10:09 AM']They'll hit each other up tonight and sing a little Kumbaya. Over the phone, of course. Not in person. They're not ready for that yet. [/quote]

No not yet. Besides, T.O. will be busy lifting weights in his driveway and can't be interrupted. Unless it's by media, then it's all good. And maybe a rep with $25 million reasons. =]

[ReED jucate]

[quote name='darklight1216' post='164484' date='Mar 5 2009, 09:31 AM']Whether or not Oz is even interested in TO is anyone's guess; I'm just hoping that Dallas didn't cut him because they are trying to get Ray. [/quote]

Did you skip the article on page one and come straight to the forum?

[url="http://www.baltimoreravens.com/News/Articles/2009/03/Ravens_Lewis_Reach_Agreement.aspx"]http://www.baltimoreravens.com/News/Articl..._Agreement.aspx[/url]

[theFRANCHISE]

[quote name='ReED jucate' post='164513' date='Mar 5 2009, 10:12 AM']Did you skip the article on page one and come straight to the forum?

[url="http://www.baltimoreravens.com/News/Articles/2009/03/Ravens_Lewis_Reach_Agreement.aspx"]http://www.baltimoreravens.com/News/Articl..._Agreement.aspx[/url][/quote]
Ray hasn't officially been signed yet; they've only come to a verbal agreement. If the Bart Scott bidding war taught us anything, never trust an agreement unless pen hits paper...

[FlaccoFlicker]

[quote name='theFRANCHISE' post='164516' date='Mar 5 2009, 10:14 AM']Ray hasn't officially been signed yet; they've only come to a verbal agreement. If the Bart Scott bidding war taught us anything, never trust an agreement unless pen hits paper...[/quote]
that's what i said to i'm nervous someone might still swoop in,any word when he is supposed to sign?

[bigZ2222]

[quote name='FlaccoFlicker' post='164517' date='Mar 5 2009, 10:16 AM']that's what i said to i'm nervous someone might still swoop in,any word when he is supposed to sign?[/quote]
it was said 2 weeks

[MrKingPinn]

Like that Bully in the Simpsons says and I Quote..."Ha! Ha!"

[theFRANCHISE]

[quote name='bigZ2222' post='164518' date='Mar 5 2009, 10:17 AM']it was said 2 weeks[/quote]
The contract is supposed to be finalized over the next two weeks. If it'll really take that much time to draw up a contract, that's probably an indication that the wording will have VERY specific clauses -- possibly behavioral ones related to Ray's comments this past offseason?

Either way, getting back on-topic, I'm still paranoid that Dallas cut T.O. to make room for Ray. Except for the fact that the $9 million cap hit from releasing T.O. actually HURTS their chances of signing Ray and giving him the big payday he wants.

[FlaccoFlicker]

t.o. will be a raider lol or maybe a chief. give cassell someone to throw to

[purple52-92-20pain]

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ooooo...Ya ready?

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LOL where did u get the dancing guys?

[BrownsFan]

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[RavensIQ]

[quote name='theFRANCHISE' post='164489' date='Mar 5 2009, 09:49 AM']First off, "the most dominant WR" in the league is a subjective statement. To me, dominance lies in production. In which case, guys like Larry Fitzgerald and Andre Johnson get top billing.[/quote]


''Over three years with the Cowboys, Owens caught 235 passes for 3,587 yards and 38 touchdowns in 47 games. He led the NFL with 13 TDs receiving in 2006, his first season in Dallas.

Over his 13-year career, he's a five-time All-Pro and ranks second in career touchdowns, fifth in career yards receiving and sixth in career receptions. He turned 35 in December, but remains a physical specimen.'' -Quoted from the Baltimoresun

If that doesn't equal dominance then I don't know production looks like. It's so easy to go with the latest trend... T.O. is a cancer...Fittzgerald is the best...Andre Johnson is the best (which one is it?) but when it comes down to facing the truth somehow people find it hard to do.

[quote]Chad Johnson's celebrations were never disrespectful to his opponent. Steve Smith's celebrations were borderline. Terrell Owens was just plain being a jerk. There was a quote that I wish I could track down where an NFL owner/executive nicknamed the celebration rule the "Terrell Owens rule."[/quote]

Bcuz Terrell Owens is the one who had the most infamous celebration. The sharpie is a classic. For goodness sake he got an endorsement from it. Terrell Owens started the WR celebration trend so it's only fitting that it's the "TO rule". And seriously, is this something you want to be a part of your argument? The No Fun League is something you support? Terrell Owens celebrations are classics. You're telling me you didn't enjoy the Star when he was a 49er? Even I chuckled when he did the Ray Lewis dance. TO is a cancer bcuz he's original? Riiigghhhttt...I think we're nit picking here.
[quote]So does that mean Dan Marino is a loser? Jim Kelly? Thurman Thomas? Barry Sanders? Warren Moon? Deacon Jones? Dan Fouts? I mean, if winning means nothing without a championship, then the opposite of winning is losing, right? Or, in this case, being a loser?[/quote]

No it means that Terrel Owens is not satisfied with just having a good record. It has nothing to do with past greats. It has everything to do with present desire. Maybe T.O. doesn't want to be included in that list of players you just mentioned after he retires? 13-3 and yet they lose the first playoff game. FRUSTRATING! Maybe going 18-1 isn't acceptable bcuz they were so close to 19-0?

It also has nothing to do with being a loser. You play to be a champion. Marino will never be considered the greatest QB of all time bcuz he was never a Champion. Add 3 rings into his resume and easily he is the greatest ever. Just bcuz you win in the regular season doesn't mean you can be contempt and settle. It's all about the Superbowl.

[quote]Yes, you play to win a championship -- but there are so many Super Bowl champions, and it's inevitable that there will only be a select few to walk away from the game with a Super Bowl ring. Of course T.O. wants to be part of that group -- but so does every other competitor in the league. Does that make them less of a competitor for having never won a Super Bowl?

Super Bowls [i]are[/i] a [u]team[/u] effort, after all. Terrell Owens is not the team, but he'd certainly like to [i]think[/i] he is...[/quote]


The Superbowl is a goal. Being a part of a team you first have to buy into "the goal". If you don't want it bad enough for yourself how can you want it bad enough for your team? So T.O. is selfish bcuz he wants to win?

Are you greedy bcuz you want to get paid for the work you do at your job?
Are you selfish if you want your family to have success?

Terrell Owens is not selfish. Have you ever witness the heart he puts on the field. I guess he's selfish when he does everything in his ability to win, right? Like Block a CB, seal the edge, then sprint to catch up to ball carrier just so he can provide extra protection against the tackle.

I guess he's selfish when he breaks his leg, goes on a health binge, rehabs night and day, forces himself to sleep in an oxygen chamber for several hours a day, just so he can heal faster, return to the field, and help his team when a championship?

The people that make it to the superbowl deserve to get credit for their accomplishments, sure, up to that point. But the people that lose in the superbowl aren't remembered. Their memory fades. Greatness never wants to be forgotten. So if it's selfish to want to be the greatest WR of all time, to want to win championships, and want to be the main guy on the team, then I guess it's time we get rid of Ray Lewis, bcuz after all, he's selfish, right?

[quote]Another point that people easily forget: every stop along the way, Terrell Owens has had the benefit of a Pro Bowl QB. Steve Young, Jeff Garcia, Donovan McNabb, Tony Romo...and these are guys that have played well and gone to Pro Bowls even [i]without[/i] T.O., so you can't say their success is entirely because of him. Even in the case of Romo, strangely enough.[/quote]

Another point you seem to forget is that Terrell Owens makes his QB's great. B4 T.O. how many pro bowls did Tony Romo make? After T.O. how many pro bowls did Garcia make? Without Terrell Owens it took Jeff Garcia 4-5 years to get back into the pro Bowl, but b4 hand...he made it 3 consecutive times back to back to back (just so happens T.O. was on his team at the time). When was the last time McNabb was in the Pro Bowl?? 2004. When he had T.O.....hmmm I'm starting to see a pattern develop.

[theFRANCHISE]

[quote name='FlaccoFlicker' post='164525' date='Mar 5 2009, 10:23 AM']t.o. will be a raider lol or maybe a chief. give cassell someone to throw to[/quote]
Or give Cassel a reason to regret being in Kansas City after a while. That works too.

[bigZ2222]

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ooooo...Ya ready?

Cuz he's a brick (doo doot dooo doot) HOUSeee (doo doot dooo doot do) Mighty MightEEEE always taking it to da House...Cuz he's a brick (doo doot dooo doot) HOUSeee (doo doot dooo doot do) Don't talk that doo doo cuz you'll just have YUH UCK mouth...ERRRRRT....STOP!! ......THINK ABOUT IT!!.....

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[FlaccoFlicker]

[quote name='theFRANCHISE' post='164533' date='Mar 5 2009, 10:25 AM']Or give Cassel a reason to regret being in Kansas City after a while. That works too. [/quote]
yeah that's true,my ex's brother is a chiefs fan so it was always a big deal when we played them,so it'll be fun this year