Antonio Cromartie May Go On The Trading Block

[Canes21]

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i know he was probly one of the worst corners in the league last year but he also was one of the best the year before. hes young, big, and a playmaker. if the price is right and he does go on the trading block i say we make a serious run at him. we would be young and solid at the corner position for years to come with cromartie,foxworth and washington.
what do you guys think?

[travis]

if it happens it would be good to see him in a ravens uniform if the price is right

[Ravens52]

I wouldn't mind

[y0unghustla]

i'd love to see that happen

[RavensIQ]

[quote name='Canes21' post='162674' date='Mar 2 2009, 10:07 PM'][url="http://www.profootballtalk.com/2009/03/02/if-florence-returns-cromartie-goes-on-the-block/"]http://www.profootballtalk.com/2009/03/02/...s-on-the-block/[/url]


i know he was probly one of the worst corners in the league last year but he also was one of the best the year before. hes young, big, and a playmaker. if the price is right and he does go on the trading block i say we make a serious run at him. we would be young and solid at the corner position for years to come with cromartie,foxworth and washington.
what do you guys think?[/quote]

You beat me 2 it!!!

Seriously if we could land Antonio Cromartie with Fabian Washington, Dominque Foxworth, Frank Walker, Derrik Martin, Draft Pick, Ed Reed, and Dawan Landry...we would have a shutdown secondary.

Washington would obviously move to nickel where he would dominate more efficiently, walker would dominate the dime, Martin and the draft pick would be terrific backups. I like it....I li' it a LOT!

[Bullrush]

He broke his hip in week 1 and he wasn't healthy the entire year so i wouldn't overrate his performance last season. He looked amazing in 2007. If they're trying to trade the guy i wouldn't mind giving up our 1st round pick for him. He's still only 23 or 24 years old and with a good front 7 the sky is the limit for him.

[flynismo]

I would give IQ's left nut to get Cromartie over here!

[Ravensfan23]

[quote name='Canes21' post='162674' date='Mar 2 2009, 10:07 PM'][url="http://www.profootballtalk.com/2009/03/02/if-florence-returns-cromartie-goes-on-the-block/"]http://www.profootballtalk.com/2009/03/02/...s-on-the-block/[/url]


i know he was probly one of the worst corners in the league last year but he also was one of the best the year before. hes young, big, and a playmaker. if the price is right and he does go on the trading block i say we make a serious run at him. we would be young and solid at the corner posion for years to come with cromartie,foxworth and washington.
what do you guys think?[/quote]

Huge FSU fan here so i would love to have Cromartie on this team. I don't think anyone had a good season for the Chargers last season. If we got Cromartie our secondary would be very much improved and allow us to work the draft even better. Having Cromartie,Washington, and Foxworth would allow us to match up with any offense in the league in my opinion. Those 3 as our top 3 would put guys like Walker and Marting into dime package, we would be able to cover all over the field and put more pressure on QBs with less blitzing.

I don't think the Chargers would let him go for cheap but if Ozzie could find a way to swing a draft day trade for him then that would be great. Losing Cmac Rolle and Ivy for Washington,Foxworth and Cromartie would be a go trade off in my opinion.

[RavensIQ]

[quote name='flynismo' post='162682' date='Mar 2 2009, 10:19 PM']I would give IQ's left nut to get Cromartie over here![/quote]

And I would give my right!

[jezzy]

that would be major we prob have the fastest cb in the nfl wit fab n foxworth nasty wish it would happen

[TSizzle00]

Ravens can make any defender look good

[Ravensfan23]

Some one on this broad asked why was Ozzie saving all of this Cap Space. Well maybe this is a reason. Ozzie always seems to be intune with everything that's happening around the league. I wouldn't be surprised at all to see Ozzie make a move on this kid.

[theFRANCHISE]

Antonio Cromartie's 2007 season pretty much shut my mouth when it came to injury concerns coming out of Florida State. I knew someone would take a chance on him, but I didn't think San Diego would draft him in the first round since he was projected to be an early-second round pick.

Looks like the Chargers knew what they were doing all along, in regards to Cromartie -- including putting him on the trading block so that the Ravens might have a shot at him.

[Tyler]

I would love to pick this kid up. We would finally get a Decent Sized CB (6-2, 203) who is young and athletic. This move would give us one of the youngest group of cbs in the nfl! let's release samari, get that extra 4 mil in cap or w/e and make a move on this guy.

Get it done Ozzie!

[travis]

we just have to pray it happens and ozzie goes after him

[Shawn`]

I really would love to see him on our defense, he's been one of my favorite CB's since he came out of Florida.

Never knew he's on the trading block

[northsider]

Cromartie makes Fabian's tackling look like Ronnie Lott's. Did anyone read the story? The Chargers would rather have Drayton Florence!!! AJ Smith may not be in Ozzie's class, but he's not a freakin' idiot. Or maybe no one saw how Cromartie nearly singlehandedly gave away the playoff game against the Colts?

[Sub-Zero]

[quote name='northsider' post='162702' date='Mar 2 2009, 07:37 PM']Cromartie makes Fabian's tackling look like Ronnie Lott's. Did anyone read the story? The Chargers would rather have Drayton Florence!!! AJ Smith may not be in Ozzie's class, but he's not a freakin' idiot. Or maybe no one saw how Cromartie nearly singlehandedly gave away the playoff game against the Colts?[/quote]
The Chargers drafted Antoine Cason in the first round. I think he is ready to step up and be the starter, making Cromartile expendable.

[mhead66]

[quote name='travis' post='162698' date='Mar 2 2009, 10:32 PM']we just have to pray it happens and ozzie goes after him[/quote]
I hate to be Johnny Raincloud here...

But why do the Ravens need 3 starting CBs? The FO just spent $28 million on Foxworth, and will pay Washington another $1.5, and you usually only start 2 CBs at once... unless you're in the nickel/dime - but then, you don't need 3 starter-caliber CBs to cover their #1-3 WRs.

The Ravens currently have a huge hole in the OLine, need a WR and possibly a LB or a TE. All need positions before spending for another CB - and, given his youth, it may require a 1st or 2nd round draft pick...

[theFRANCHISE]

[quote name='mhead66' post='162709' date='Mar 2 2009, 10:44 PM']I hate to be Johnny Raincloud here...

But why do the Ravens need 3 starting CBs?[/quote]
In spite of all the other needs you listed, depth at CB has been an issue for the past three out of four seasons (2005, 2007, 2008). The position has been plagued with injuries, and the team has merely done just enough to get by without enough quality depth. However, the lack of depth at CB was just one of the main contributing factors to the Ravens' loss in the AFC Championship game.

Consider the possible acquisition of another starter-quality CB as merely an insurance policy for later on down the line. Chances are, with the bad luck that the team has had with the position the past few years, it'll come in handy.

[Ravensfan23]

[quote name='northsider' post='162702' date='Mar 2 2009, 10:37 PM']Cromartie makes Fabian's tackling look like Ronnie Lott's. Did anyone read the story? The Chargers would rather have Drayton Florence!!! AJ Smith may not be in Ozzie's class, but he's not a freakin' idiot. Or maybe no one saw how Cromartie nearly singlehandedly gave away the playoff game against the Colts?[/quote]

sounds like a knee jerk reaction to me. If u are willing to get rid of a guy for one bad season, doesn't sound like a good move to me. They say one mans trash is another's treasure.

I have no doubt if he came to the Ravens he would make AJ Smith look foolish for giving up on him

[mhead66]

[quote name='theFRANCHISE' post='162711' date='Mar 2 2009, 10:48 PM']In spite of all the other needs you listed, depth at CB has been an issue for the past three out of four seasons (2005, 2007, 2008). The position has been plagued with injuries, and the team has merely done just enough to get by without enough quality depth. However, the lack of depth at CB was just one of the main contributing factors to the Ravens' loss in the AFC Championship game.

Consider the possible acquisition of another starter-quality CB as merely an insurance policy for later on down the line. Chances are, with the bad luck that the team has had with the position the past few years, it'll come in handy.[/quote]
Oh, it would come in handy - you can't ever have enough talent, and I think CB is the 2nd most important position, other than QB.

But in today's NFL, an average CB can be compensated for by a good pass rush. A pair of excellent CBs can be destroyed if your team doesn't have a good pass rush... Pittsburgh has average CBs : Ike Taylor & Bryant McFadden - but their pass rush, w/ Harrison & Woodley, covered for them.

The last 2 years, the Ravens have averaged only 33 sacks/yr - in '06, they had 60. If they get back to pressure D (I believe, w/ JJ inside, Barnes & Suggs OLB), then they won't need as much quality at CB.

But, yes, it would be a nice luxury to have Washington, Foxworth & Cromartie - if they can be afforded.

[52Kia Kaha92]

id give up our first for him, he is younger than a lot of draftees this year and is a great corner when healthy, he is also pretty tough playing injured like he did

Make it happen ozzie

[theFRANCHISE]

[quote name='mhead66' post='162716' date='Mar 2 2009, 10:53 PM']Oh, it would come in handy - you can't ever have enough talent, and I think CB is the 2nd most important position, other than QB.

But in today's NFL, an average CB can be compensated for by a good pass rush. A pair of excellent CBs can be destroyed if your team doesn't have a good pass rush... Pittsburgh has average CBs : Ike Taylor & Bryant McFadden - but their pass rush, w/ Harrison & Woodley, covered for them.

The last 2 years, the Ravens have averaged only 33 sacks/yr - in '06, they had 60. If they get back to pressure D (I believe, w/ JJ inside, Barnes & Suggs OLB), then they won't need as much quality at CB.

But, yes, it would be a nice luxury to have Washington, Foxworth & Cromartie - if they can be afforded.[/quote]
And that leads me to the point I would make in response to your point about pressure defenses. The problem is, as you pointed out, the Ravens have not had as much success in the front seven as in years past in regards to pressuring the QB. Therefore, even if the team were to improve on that aspect this season, there will be games where the CBs will need to play at a quality level, should the front seven fail to rattle opposing QBs.

You call it a luxury to have Washington, Foxworth, and Cromartie -- I call it an extremely nice birthday present/insurance policy. lol.

[RavensIQ]

[quote name='mhead66' post='162709' date='Mar 2 2009, 10:44 PM']I hate to be Johnny Raincloud here...

But why do the Ravens need 3 starting CBs? The FO just spent $28 million on Foxworth, and will pay Washington another $1.5, and you usually only start 2 CBs at once... unless you're in the nickel/dime - but then, you don't need 3 starter-caliber CBs to cover their #1-3 WRs.

The Ravens currently have a huge hole in the OLine, need a WR and possibly a LB or a TE. All need positions before spending for another CB - and, given his youth, it may require a 1st or 2nd round draft pick...[/quote]

You have to have 3 starting caliber CBs on your roster if you want to compete against these big time wrs.

Last year When Rolle and Mac went down we had Walker and Washington. Imagine how good we would have been with a 3rd starter.

CBs are a premium in this league. Look at the skins last year. One of the best secondaries in the league. Rogers, Springs, Hall, Smoot. They had 4 starters on their roster.

It's what it takes these days. Look at our active roster as of now. We have 3 starting CBs (Rolle, Fabian, Foxworth).

I

[BloodRaven]

Can we afford to lose the picks AND around 8million a year for a big corner that doesnt cover well?

C'mon guys.

[Tonymontana45]

Well I was at Chargers forum and they have an article that says that the GM just wants a 3rd round pick, if this is true offer that and something else and lets get him

AFC West news and notes: Cromartie on the block?
March 2, 2009 10:25 PM
Posted by ESPN.com's Bill Williamson

The San Diego Union Tribune reports that the Chargers would consider trading cornerback Antonio Cromartie if they bring back Drayton Florence.

The word around the league Monday night is that the Chargers would take a third-rounder for Cromartie, who had 10 interceptions in 2007 but whose production and cover ability suffered in 2008.

It makes sense. The team would then likely make Antoine Cason, the first-round pick from 2008, the starter. Even though he had a poor season in 2008, Cromartie would likely get interest around the league in trade talks.

[theFRANCHISE]

[quote name='Tonymontana45' post='162813' date='Mar 3 2009, 12:40 AM']Well I was at Chargers forum and they have an article that says that the GM just wants a 3rd round pick, if this is true offer that and something else and lets get him[/quote]
Getting him for a third-round pick would be nice, but it'd be even nicer if he'd be willing to take a pay cut, too...

[iHate]

didn't sean springs get cut too?

[codizzle]

[quote name='BloodRaven' post='162801' date='Mar 2 2009, 11:21 PM']Can we afford to lose the picks AND around 8million a year for a big corner that doesnt cover well?

C'mon guys.[/quote]
so far.. ive only seen first round on here... he would definitly be worth that...

Many on here have been so "worried" about getting a CB in the draft that was big and Nfl ready... How bout getting him right now..

Cromartie is 6'2".. i saw this on wikipedia... "On July 25, 2006, Cromartie signed a 5-year, $12.5 million contract with $7.35 million guaranteed with the Chargers."

is that still true? or did he restructure... cause if not... thats a piece of cake contract