2009 Ravens Mock Draft

[flynismo]

[url="http://bleacherreport.com/articles/132392-baltimore-ravens-2009-mock-draft"]Fly's 2009 Mock Draft (clicking this link will take you to Bleacher Report)[/url]

Part 2 will be posted later tonight. Leave some feedback if you agree/disagree, please!

[Ravensfan23]

[quote name='flynismo' post='161983' date='Mar 1 2009, 06:58 PM'][url="http://bleacherreport.com/articles/132392-baltimore-ravens-2009-mock-draft"]Fly's 2009 Mock Draft (clicking this link will take you to Bleacher Report)[/url]

Part 2 will be posted later tonight. Leave some feedback if you agree/disagree, please![/quote]

looks like a great draft to me. I love both Alphonso smith and Kenny Britt, and that would be the perfect day1 for me. In the 3rd i think we will either go OL or DL, i like A.Q Shiply if he is avalible.

overall i i think u did a good job with the first 3 rounds. I look forward to seeing day 2

[Rav3nxOwner]

Agreed.

[purple52-92-20pain]

I love it, except for the fact that the eagles want kenny britt at #20

[flynismo]

[quote name='purple52-92-20pain' post='162035' date='Mar 1 2009, 08:36 PM']I love it, except for the fact that the eagles want kenny britt at #20 [/quote]


Uh oh, I didn't hear about that! Doesn't surprise me, but #20 is considerably higher than what his current "value" is. But if there's anyone of the wr's worth jumping for, its him!

[Ravensfan23]

[quote name='purple52-92-20pain' post='162035' date='Mar 1 2009, 08:36 PM']I love it, except for the fact that the eagles want kenny britt at #20 [/quote]

they can have DHB or Nicks. Hell maybe they could even land T.J Housh next week and not take a WR in round one at all.

[Ed_Reed20]

I hope Britt is available in the second.

[Moderator 9]

[quote name='purple52-92-20pain' post='162035' date='Mar 1 2009, 08:36 PM']I love it, except for the fact that the eagles want kenny britt at #20 [/quote]

please reserve the word "fact" for actual facts. not pure speculation on your part

[flynismo]

Ok, day two is complete.

I think most, if not all, my second day picks will be debated thoroughly...let me hear about it!

[RavensIQ]

[quote name='flynismo' post='162251' date='Mar 2 2009, 03:02 AM']Ok, day two is complete.

I think most, if not all, my second day picks will be debated thoroughly...let me hear about it![/quote]


You definitely went with the more original approach. I like the guys you picked, but no offensive tackle?

Last year when Ozzie took RB in the 2nd followed by Zibi and Nakamura, it threw me for a loop cuz I definitely thought WR was a sure thing early, but sure enough we came away with one of the best drafts. Gotta say you had some pretty impressive picks Flynismo.

[BaltimoreBulldog]

The one thing people often over look about the Ravens is we rarely draft based on what we need.

[flynismo]

[quote name='BaltimoreBulldog' post='162260' date='Mar 2 2009, 03:38 AM']The one thing people often over look about the Ravens is we rarely draft based on what we need.[/quote]

That was a concern for me; but then I realized just how many holes we actually have to fill...so basically what I did was pick three guys who I thought would be the best on the board in each round, and chose the guy we needed most.

[BaltimoreBulldog]

[quote name='flynismo' post='162265' date='Mar 2 2009, 03:55 AM']That was a concern for me; but then I realized just how many holes we actually have to fill...so basically what I did was pick three guys who I thought would be the best on the board in each round, and chose the guy we needed most.[/quote]
I wont be shocked if we don't take a WR or a CB in the 1st round and draft a LT or a DE. I believe last year everyone said we needed defensive line/offensive line and WR help and we didnt draft any of those positions until the 99th pick in the 3rd round. No one thought we needed to draft Ray Rice, that was a shocker to everyone and so was Gooden.

[flynismo]

[quote name='RavensIQ' post='162259' date='Mar 2 2009, 03:36 AM']You definitely went with the more original approach. I like the guys you picked, but no offensive tackle?

Last year when Ozzie took RB in the 2nd followed by Zibi and Nakamura, it threw me for a loop cuz I definitely thought WR was a sure thing early, but sure enough we came away with one of the best drafts. Gotta say you had some pretty impressive picks Flynismo.[/quote]


Yeah, I actually surprised myself, because at the outset I was determined to sneak an OT in somewhere, because that's what I would've liked to see.
But looking at this group of tackles, my opinion is that it is extremely top heavy; meaning that there are quite a few who will go on day one, but the ones left over for day two just don't excite me at all. There are only two OT's that I would consider on day two, and one really doesn't fit our mold, and the other I think just isn't as good of a player as Hunt is...

What do you guys think of Marko Mitchell? I really like the kid, I compare him to a Reggie Williams style WR, but I think he'll be better than Williams.....I don't think he'll ever be a real impact player, but I think he could be what Clarence Moore was supposed to do.

[BaltimoreBulldog]

[quote name='flynismo' post='162273' date='Mar 2 2009, 04:21 AM']Yeah, I actually surprised myself, because at the outset I was determined to sneak an OT in somewhere, because that's what I would've liked to see.
But looking at this group of tackles, my opinion is that it is extremely top heavy; meaning that there are quite a few who will go on day one, but the ones left over for day two just don't excite me at all. There are only two OT's that I would consider on day two, and one really doesn't fit our mold, and the other I think just isn't as good of a player as Hunt is...

What do you guys think of Marko Mitchell? I really like the kid, I compare him to a Reggie Williams style WR, but I think he'll be better than Williams.....I don't think he'll ever be a real impact player, but I think he could be what Clarence Moore was supposed to do.[/quote]
I'm getting to the point where I see enough project receivers on the roster, and if we are going to draft one lets get one that would be "NFL ready". Look at all the young guys we have drafted in the later rounds on the roster right now ( D williams, Edward Williams, Marcus Smith, Ernie Wheelright, Justin Harper). I am coming to the realization that the FO probably doesn't see WR as a position of need like many on this message board thinks. Lets be realistic, we run a power run offense that is not reliant on receivers. We also have quite a few big bodied/big frame recievers that we drafted also. Look at last year the size of the guys we got, 6-5 220, 6-4 215, 6-1 215, 6-3 215. It is very rare for receivers to step in and have a impact on year one, so I'm not opposed to developing what we have and drafting other positions in the late rounds that we have had alot of success with.

[flynismo]

[quote name='BaltimoreBulldog' post='162268' date='Mar 2 2009, 04:06 AM']I wont be shocked if we don't take a WR or a CB in the 1st round and draft a LT or a DE. I believe last year everyone said we needed defensive line/offensive line and WR help and we didnt draft any of those positions until the 99th pick in the 3rd round. No one thought we needed to draft Ray Rice, that was a shocker to everyone and so was Gooden.[/quote]

I almost cried when we took Rice, lol... I love the guy, and thought it was brilliant, considering McGahee's mileage and injury history. Gooden wasn't a surprise to me either, mainly because he was another guy I was really high on, and I know how much Oz likes his Florida boys. But I know what you're saying though; our needs at the time weren't RB or LB, but we took those two because they were simply better players than anyone else on the board. That said, I think that this draft is truly a turning point for our franchise, and the holes we have are glaring enough to sway the decision making with a couple of our picks.
Then again, it is Ozzie we're talking about, trying to pick his brain is an exercize in futility and will make you insane if you spend too much time trying to analyze his thought process.

[purple52-92-20pain]

[quote name='Moderator9' post='162124' date='Mar 1 2009, 10:21 PM']please reserve the word "fact" for actual facts. not pure speculation on your part[/quote]

It is fact. The eagles front office said that if britt is there in the first round they are going to take him with the panthers pick.

[ZIBBY28]

[quote name='BaltimoreBulldog' post='162260' date='Mar 2 2009, 03:38 AM']The one thing people often over look about the Ravens is we rarely draft based on what we need.[/quote]
thats only true to a certain extent.. look at how we moved around in the first to take a qb (which was our #1 need).. flacco might not have actually been the best player available at that spot, but we needed a QB and took one.

[Ravensfan23]

[quote name='purple52-92-20pain' post='162500' date='Mar 2 2009, 04:24 PM']It is fact. The eagles front office said that if britt is there in the first round they are going to take him with the panthers pick.[/quote]

A lot of times that is a smokescreen. Many FOs won't come out and say who they intend to select 2 months before draft.

[Moderator 9]

[quote name='purple52-92-20pain' post='162500' date='Mar 2 2009, 04:24 PM']It is fact. The eagles front office said that if britt is there in the first round they are going to take him with the panthers pick.[/quote]

great.....and i've got some ocean front property in colorado for sale. interested?

possiblility does not equal FACT

[Ravensfan23]

[quote name='flynismo' post='162251' date='Mar 2 2009, 03:02 AM']Ok, day two is complete.

I think most, if not all, my second day picks will be debated thoroughly...let me hear about it![/quote]

it was a pretty good second day. However i think the Ravens would like to select a TE and FB. With a healthy Quinn coming back the Ravens should have the blocking persence that want from the TE position. I think they would like to bring in a kid like Nelson to groom under Heap, much like they did with Heap under Sharpe.

I think the Ravens would be smart to bring back Lo Neal. He brings a tough vet presence to the running and blocking game. I expect him to be signed back to the roster, however i think they would love to keep McClain in the role he held last season. So i can see them selecting a kid like Tony Fiammetta to serve as a true blocking full back. Maybe spend a year on the PS and take over for Lo Neal in 2011.

[T-Sizzle55]

[quote name='flynismo' post='161983' date='Mar 1 2009, 06:58 PM'][url="http://bleacherreport.com/articles/132392-baltimore-ravens-2009-mock-draft"]Fly's 2009 Mock Draft (clicking this link will take you to Bleacher Report)[/url]

Part 2 will be posted later tonight. Leave some feedback if you agree/disagree, please![/quote]

I like it, good job! I like every single player you have us taking and they were all on my list as potential Raven draftees at one point or another.

I have us picking a WR in the first round ever since we signed Foxworth. I feel we will take another CB, but not until the 2nd, 3rd, or even 4th round. Also, Kenny Britt might not be there in the late 2nd round because he does have great skills and many foresee him going top 15 of the 2nd round. By getting Foxworth, I feel we can get dibs on a quality WR before he gets taken.

(This is just what I've been working on)
1-(WR)-Darrius Heyward-Bey, 6'2" 210 lbs (4.30 forty|38.5" Vert)

2-(DE)-Jarron Gilbert 6'5" 290 lbs (4.8 forty|225lbs x28)

3-(CB)-Asher Allen, 5'10" 194 lbs (4.48 forty|225lbs x22)

4-(G)-Louis Vasquez 6'5" 333 lbs (Arms 34 3/4inch|225lbs x 39!)

5-(CB)-Coye Francies 6'0" 185 lbs (4.5 forty|225lbs x24)

6-(ILB)-Frantz Joseph 6'3" 235 lbs (4.8 forty)

7-(ILB)-Michael Tauiliili 5'11" 238 lbs (4.7 forty|225lbs x33)

I didn't even know who this guy, Tauiliili, was or how the heck you even pronounce his name. I've overlooked him many times until my buddy who went to Duke told me to check him out. Duke what kind of defense do they have? They were 4-8! The real reason why I overlooked him was not that he went to Duke, but that he was 5'11. He's kinda short. Then I thought London Fletcher is 5'10; Zack Thomas is 5'11. If this guy has the heart and the desire, then passing him by solely due to height is vain and Ravens don't do that. They look at what skills a player has and how we can apply them to the gridiron. After looking at him, I must say, I'm kinda impressed. He had 434 tackles (140 tackles last year), averaged 11.5 tackles for a loss per season, and 7 career interceptions (4 INTs last year!). Ok, he might indeed be a playmaker.
Year ||GP TKL TFL SACK PBU INT
Totals 46 434 |46.0 6.0 |||8 |||7

I might switch out DE Jarron Gilbert for a TE or OLB/ILB Tyrone McKenzie and get Philip Hunt in round 4.
Tyrone McKenzie
Height: 6'2" Weight: 243 lbs.
40 Time: 4.73 40 Low: 4.59 40 High: 4.85
225 Lb. Bench Reps: 27
Year ||GP TKL TFL SACK PBU INT
Totals 49 369 |32.0 4.5 ||16 |||2

[daylt8dollashort]

[b]Cut Heap, Rolle, and hope that they can move up and get Hakeem Nicks from UNC and the WR issued would be settled! period!! He is a playmaker, and proved that with 2 different QB's and most DB's were even covering him over the top but he could take a medium range pass and with his YAC made a ton of big plays, Heyward Bey is not as polished, and doesn't seem to have the skills to use his frame to shield himself from defenders, and The Head Coach and OC slowed his progress because of the two and three headed monster running backs. The QB situation wasn't stable and he didn't show me that with the 4.28 or whatever could seperate like he should. They still need depth at TE, and it is a TE rich draft, and DB's are plentyful such as the CB from Illinois.........He has the size and cover skills although, if I would look for a corner it would be someone from the ACC or SEC because of the competition. Chris McAlister could have switched to safety, he still had the ball skills to play and make the change. Foxworth was so overpaid since in 56 games he only had 2 ints, and he initially started in Denver, and was replaced as a starter. With the front office being depleted and yet once they leave here, the decision making isn't as sharp as working together here. Landry's injury really should make the Ravens worried that it could possibly be career threatening since they IR'd him rather early. Hopefully most of the 18 that were on IR could return and be productive. Plese get Buddy Lee back and go to a 4-3............Bart Scott tried to parlay one sack of Big Ben into being the madbacker, but his cover skills hurt them more than anything.....................see Patriots 40 yard pass to Maroney, which turned him around even before he threw the flag dang near into the stands..........I think that Harbaugh's coaching ability will be tested because of his ego.......................Ray will return and galvanize the D, and all those who think he owes the team or City something, will forgive him and look forward to him coming out of the tunnel...........Tony Gonzales would really look good here too![/b]