Foxworth A Raven

[Ed_Reed20]

[quote name='RoflDogs' post='161511' date='Feb 28 2009, 08:19 PM']We got him cheap for a 4th

and btw, I hear that Dominique was a little inconsistent in his career (not in his game)[/quote]

It was a draft pick that could have been used to fill another hole. The main reason Foxworth go so much is because of the contracts Asomugha and Hall got.

Where did you hear Foxworth has been inconsistent?

[Sizzle]

[quote name='flynismo' post='161284' date='Feb 28 2009, 02:00 PM']Hey, low 4.3's is nothing to sneeze at!
The nice thing about it is that his speed compliments his game; speed isn't what makes or breaks him as a player.[/quote]
I hope he can tackle and i heard coach say he is willing to tackle if so that would be a great aqusition because Ed Reed because of that neck issue shys away from tackling and fabian pretty much can't tackle, Rolle is too old to tackle and the only tackling CB we have Ivy got stolen so I FREAKING hope he can tackle.

[Ed_Reed20]

[quote name='Sizzle' post='161534' date='Feb 28 2009, 09:07 PM']I hope he can tackle and i heard coach say he is willing to tackle if so that would be a great aqusition because Ed Reed because of that neck issue shys away from tackling and fabian pretty much can't tackle, Rolle is too old to tackle and the only tackling CB we have Ivy got stolen so I FREAKING hope he can tackle.[/quote]

That is true. McAlister had his lapses in coverage at times but he was ALWAYS a reliable tackler. I always felt Rolle was an underrated tackler. And as for Foxworth, I have heard the same thing about Foxworth's willingness to tackle too though.

[BloodRaven]

You hope he can tackle?

For 7million dollars a year he better be able to do more than just tackle.

[Ravenskid2085]

I'm really excited about this guy.

Hes a solid corner, and hes so happy to be here

[McBoller]

I iwsh him luck. Depending on what number he picks I might even get his jersey.

[Ravnet]

[quote name='Ed_Reed20' post='161505' date='Feb 28 2009, 08:05 PM']A lot of people thought the team shouldn't have traded for Fabian.[/quote]

Eh, that was a very low-risk move. Fabian was a project, and "failed" projects aren't worth much.

[neepo13]

[quote name='Ed_Reed20' post='161505' date='Feb 28 2009, 08:05 PM']A lot of people thought the team shouldn't have traded for Fabian.[/quote]

I dont know about that. There were not to many people that I can remember that were opposed to trading a 4th round pick for him. At that point in the draft, we needed a corner and his experience made him better then any option we had at that time. Fabian was a good investment and I thought a lot of people thought so when it happened intially. At least the reaction on this board was positive.

[Sizzle]

[quote name='Ed_Reed20' post='161537' date='Feb 28 2009, 09:21 PM']That is true. McAlister had his lapses in coverage at times but he was ALWAYS a reliable tackler. I always felt Rolle was an underrated tackler. And as for Foxworth, I have heard the same thing about Foxworth's willingness to tackle too though.[/quote]
God i miss mcalister.

[RoflDogs]

[quote name='Ed_Reed20' post='161524' date='Feb 28 2009, 08:42 PM']It was a draft pick that could have been used to fill another hole. The main reason Foxworth go so much is because of the contracts Asomugha and Hall got.

Where did you hear Foxworth has been inconsistent?[/quote]

I meant that he sucked in Denver and played well in Atlanta

[Sizzle]

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[Sizzle]

[quote name='RoflDogs' post='161685' date='Mar 1 2009, 09:38 AM']I meant that he sucked in Denver and played well in Atlanta[/quote]
He really didn't suck its because Denver had so much depth at corner they couldn't put him in the game which is why they put him at safety sometimes because he is a natural play maker and he is fast.

[MKdave]

[quote name='McBoller' post='161584' date='Mar 1 2009, 04:15 AM']I iwsh him luck. Depending on what number he picks I might even get his jersey.[/quote]
It's 24.

[MKdave]

Everyone relax. He only really has to be average with our pass rush. He's gotta be better than Corey Ivy, who started for us plenty last year, and we were the top rated pass D, second ranked pass D. I think this means we either switch our first round pick to a wideout or pass rusher, so we can keep our new corner from having to stay in coverage for too long.

[flynismo]

[quote name='Sizzle' post='161675' date='Mar 1 2009, 08:37 AM']God i miss mcalister.[/quote]


You too?

[cdog2]

It seamed to me that our pass rush has been inconsistant the last two years.When we had AD and Sugs they both had 13-14 sacks and the other guys had a bunch two.Remember we sacked Big Ben like 9 times" I loved that game".Anyway we definitely need a WR but I think a elite pass rusher to go with Sugs will make the DB'S look like super stars.Move JJ to Bart's spot and Draft a good pass rusher and WR in round 1st and 2nd round and maybe TE or C in the 3rd.

[Sizzle]

[quote name='cdog2' post='161833' date='Mar 1 2009, 02:05 PM']It seamed to me that our pass rush has been inconsistant the last two years.When we had AD and Sugs they both had 13-14 sacks and the other guys had a bunch two.Remember we sacked Big Ben like 9 times" I loved that game".Anyway we definitely need a WR but I think a elite pass rusher to go with Sugs will make the DB'S look like super stars.Move JJ to Bart's spot and Draft a good pass rusher and WR in round 1st and 2nd round and maybe TE or C in the 3rd.[/quote]
You are exactly right when we get pressure everyone performs well. Dawan landry 5 picks, chris mcalister 6 picks, ed reed 5 picks, samarie 3-4 picks in 2006.

[3Zach21]

[quote name='MKdave' post='161690' date='Mar 1 2009, 09:56 AM']Everyone relax. He only really has to be average with our pass rush. He's gotta be better than Corey Ivy, who started for us plenty last year, and we were the top rated pass D, second ranked pass D. I think this means we either switch our first round pick to a wideout or pass rusher, so we can keep our new corner from having to stay in coverage for too long.[/quote]

Being better than Corey Ivy shouldn't be all that hard to do. I agree, our top pick will be either a WR or a DE/OLB hybrid. We should go WR tho, basically because no matter what stage of the draft we are at, Ozzie will find a good LB.

[MKdave]

[quote name='3Zach21' post='161958' date='Mar 1 2009, 10:48 PM'][b]Being better than Corey Ivy shouldn't be all that hard to do[/b]. I agree, our top pick will be either a WR or a DE/OLB hybrid. We should go WR tho, basically because no matter what stage of the draft we are at, Ozzie will find a good LB.[/quote]

That's my point. He was a starter for us and yet we were a/the top pass defence.

[mhead66]

[quote name='cdog2' post='161833' date='Mar 1 2009, 02:05 PM']It seamed to me that our pass rush has been inconsistant the last two years.[/quote]
You're correct - the Ravens had 34 sacks this year, 32 last year. In '06, they had 60. However, they haven't been below 6th in the league in total defense since '03.
[quote name='cdog2' post='161833' date='Mar 1 2009, 02:05 PM']When we had AD and Sugs they both had 13-14 sacks and the other guys had a bunch two.Remember we sacked Big Ben like 9 times" I loved that game".[/quote]
Actually, Suggs hasn't had more than 9.5 sacks since '04. But you're right - you don't need All-Pro corners with a good pass rush
[quote name='cdog2' post='161833' date='Mar 1 2009, 02:05 PM']Anyway we definitely need a WR but I think a elite pass rusher to go with Sugs will make the DB'S look like super stars.Move JJ to Bart's spot and Draft a good pass rusher and WR in round 1st and 2nd round and maybe TE or C in the 3rd.[/quote]
I don't think the Ravens should draft a pass rusher - I think moving JJ inside, and using Barnes as a pass rusher, would be better. A WR/OL, to replace Brown, is a much more pressing need. The D will be fine, assuming Lewis comes back.

Barnes is going to be an excellent pass rusher, given the chance. Suggs, in his rookie year, only started one game - and he had 12 sacks, most in his career...

[frankwhite]

[quote name='Untouchable' post='159091' date='Feb 27 2009, 01:01 PM']Nice pickup for Baltimore.

I don't think you'll suffer any big setback with Foxworth/Washington as opposed to Rolle/McAlister.[/quote]


Yes but Washington seems a little scared in the tackling area!?!?!
Fox has been seen to have slippery hands.
Fox has played over 60 games and has only 4 Interceptions.

Ravens did overpay for Foxworth... IMHO
PRAY FOR THE BEST.

[slugz1]

On paper, Foxworth would be the right addition at the right time. He is entering the final year of his contract with the Broncos, and is not in the running for a starting role. However, it's pretty hard to be a starter when Champ Bailey and Dre Bly are ahead of you on the depth chart. Besides the fact that Foxworth has three years worth of experience on the Broncos, he was once clocked running a stunning 4.22 in the 40-yard dash. I can run probably a 4.4 on my best day, so I know a 4.22 has to be blazing molten hot fast