My Mock Draft

[PurpleClawsOfFURY]

1st Round -James Laurinaitis ILB Ohio St. (A leader, great instinct, great LB replacement)
2nd Round -Alphonso Smith , CB, Wake Forest - (Not your size and speed guy, but a instinctual play maker)
3rd Round - Chase Coffman, TE, Mizzou ( A guy to be mentored by Heap to replace him sooner or later, much like sharpe in 2000)
4th Round - Ramses Barden, WR, Cal Poly (Big physical guy at 6,6 ft his 40 may be only in the 4.5's but he's a talent that can develope with Flacco)
5th Round - Jorvorskie Lane, FB, Texas A&M (Big old school Fullback that can get playing time with Le'Ron McClain sometimes doing HB roles)
6th Round - Randy Phillips, CB, Miami (FL) (More CB depth solid corner at 6,0 208 pounds, and better than Corey Ivy)


Keep in mind i believe free agency will solve some pressing needs too!

[Whole-Gash]

I don't like the first round selection. If we re-sign two of our three FA LBs then I think unless a true stud falls to us at 26 then we take a different position. I don't feel like Lauranitis is that stud, I'd like to see us trade down from 26 and grab Kenny Britt or Hakeem Nicks in the early second.

The rest of the draft I like, though. Although, if we were to trade down from the first I would like to grab an extra third or fourth rounder and select another corner.

Also, I feel like Smith is too short but I expect Ozzie and the scouts to determine that. I don't know if he'll be left when we pick.

[bce086]

No offense, but I dont really like the 1st 3 picks.

1 - I dont think we need to draft a ILB -- even if Ray does part ways.
2 - I dont like Alphonso Smith. We need a big, physical and fast CB to replace C-Mac with.
3 - TE isn't a pressing need. We have Heap, Quinn, and Wilcox, who are all solid players. Quinn will see some more passes this year i expect.

[ZIBBY28]

i highly doubt alphonso smith will fall to the 52nd pick, the first round depends on who we can sign b/w lewis and scott

[RavensIQ]

Your draft covers a lot of need while at the same time picking up a lot of great prospects with tons of potential. I like it. I don't think we should take this route, but I like where your heads at.

1. Duke Robinson (OG)
2. Sean Smith (CB)
3. Louis Murphy (WR)
4. Travis Beckum (TE)
5. Kevin Barnes (CB)

[purple52-92-20pain]

[quote name='RavensIQ' post='154871' date='Feb 17 2009, 03:39 PM']Your draft covers a lot of need while at the same time picking up a lot of great prospects with tons of potential. I like it. I don't think we should take this route, but I like where your heads at.

1. Duke Robinson (OG)
2. Sean Smith (CB)
3. Louis Murphy (WR)
4. Travis Beckum (TE)
5. Kevin Barnes (CB)[/quote]

We dont need a G first round. We have a young line, but we need a veteran G 4 leadership and can pick up the blitz (chester.....)

[RavensIQ]

[quote name='purple52-92-20pain' post='154917' date='Feb 17 2009, 04:15 PM']We dont need a G first round. We have a young line, but we need a veteran G 4 leadership and can pick up the blitz (chester.....)[/quote]


Really? We don't need a guard? That's right, cuz we have Chris Chester and Marshal Yanda, who completely shredded all of his major knee ligaments (ACL, PCL, MCL) and who is coming off of 2 major knee surgeries less than 4 months ago...

[bossman419]

We have more pressing matters then Guard.

I'm not in love with any of the CB's in this years draft but I think the secondary is lacking a Tall Physical presence. A lot of mocks have the Ravens picking Alphonso Smith but hes 5'8" on a good day. I do however like a couple of the WR's, like Hakeem Nicks (he looks like the poor man's Anquan Boldin). But 26 seems to high to pick him, and I doubt he will be around where the Ravens pick in the 2nd round. So idk whats going to happen, I'm just gonna sit back and enjoy

[Bltravens]

But taking a G in the first round when theres no 1st round quality Gs is not smart. In the last 5 years theres been 2 Gs taken in the 1st round, Grubbs and Albert. Thats for good reason the better athletes on the line are at T. Bossmans exactly right way more pressing needs than at G. You want to beat the Steelers next year it sure as **** wont be by running the ball down their throats. Stretch the field get a burner reciever, and with the release of McAlister possibly Rolle(who knows) and Ivy, Walker and Ogelsby as your depth you cant tell me getting a 1 or 2nd round corner isnt at the top of your priority list. When the Ravens took the field on AFC champ Sunday you were cool with Walker starting opposite of Washington... come on.

[bossman419]

Can we trade F Walker for a box of balls. They would have to be deflated cause air is expensive

[Moderator 9]

those bashing alphonso smith, clearly haven't seen him play. he may be short, but he's VERY physical. and he won't get out of the first round...bank on it

[RoflDogs]

[quote name='Moderator9' post='155048' date='Feb 17 2009, 08:19 PM']those bashing alphonso smith, clearly haven't seen him play. he may be short, but he's VERY physical. and he won't get out of the first round...bank on it[/quote]

I agree that Alphonso Smith is a great corner, but I think he will get out of the first round because of his size

[Moderator 9]

i disagree. in fact, i'll make this statement. if alphonso smith is available at 26 and the ravens don't have guy that's rated MUCH higher than smith, they'll take him. you can put that in your sig if you want

[raven43]

[quote name='RavensIQ' post='154935' date='Feb 17 2009, 04:28 PM']Really? We don't need a guard? That's right, cuz we have Chris Chester and Marshal Yanda, who completely shredded all of his major knee ligaments (ACL, PCL, MCL) and who is coming off of 2 major knee surgeries less than 4 months ago... [/quote]
Chris Chester isn't so bad that we should use a first round pick on someone to replace him. I due recall him setting up that long TD run agianst Dallas...

[bossman419]

[quote name='Moderator9' post='155048' date='Feb 17 2009, 08:19 PM']those bashing alphonso smith, clearly haven't seen him play. he may be short, but he's VERY physical. and he won't get out of the first round...bank on it[/quote]
I've seen plenty of Smith... As a Maryland fan I can attest to what he does to opposing teams, but I can see it now, him being picked on by the Randy Moss', Larry Fitzgeralds, and Andre Johnsons. I'm not saying he is a bad corner. Cause he is not. What he lacks in height and speed he makes up for in hard work and perseverance, im just saying that the Ravens need a TALL physical corner.

[Moderator 9]

please explain WHY the ravens need a tall corner.

[PurpleClawsOfFURY]

I think TE is a pressing need. Or atleast it will be soon.
*** I'm going off a draft where we franchise suggs and lewis leaves and we sign scott ***


Obviously we all need to see how the scouting combine is going to chop and screw everyones draft rankings.

I do think we need to pick up our corner of the future, a corner for depth seeing as we will most likely lose 3 corners this offseason. I think having 3 fullbacks on the team isn't nessecary but this is the year to pick up a big oldschool full back. I like Ramses Barden because he's as tall as Flacco and has great hands.


I had a new idea so after the combine i'll make another mock.

[purple52-92-20pain]

[quote name='RavensIQ' post='154935' date='Feb 17 2009, 04:28 PM']Really? We don't need a guard? That's right, cuz we have Chris Chester and Marshal Yanda, who completely shredded all of his major knee ligaments (ACL, PCL, MCL) and who is coming off of 2 major knee surgeries less than 4 months ago... [/quote]

I said we dont need a guard in the first round........... we should get a vet guard out of FA that can pick up the blitz and provide leadership.

[purple52-92-20pain]

[quote name='raven43' post='155294' date='Feb 18 2009, 01:28 PM']Chris Chester isn't so bad that we should use a first round pick on someone to replace him. I due recall him setting up that long TD run agianst Dallas...[/quote]


dude...... Its DALLAS. Let it sink in....... DALLAS.

[bossman419]

[quote name='Moderator9' post='155381' date='Feb 18 2009, 05:17 PM']please explain WHY the ravens need a tall corner.[/quote]
Because its painful to watch a WR catch a ball over a CB who had great coverage. If you wanna compete with the bigs you need size. Don't get me wrong I wont mind if we end with smith its just makes more sense to me to go with size.

[Moderator 9]

[quote name='bossman419' post='155521' date='Feb 18 2009, 10:56 PM']Because its painful to watch a WR catch a ball over a CB who had great coverage. If you wanna compete with the bigs you need size. Don't get me wrong I wont mind if we end with smith its just makes more sense to me to go with size.[/quote]

so you're saying you'd take a guy with size over a guy with better fundamentals and ball skills?

if that's the case, then we should draft ramses barden to play corner. he's 6'6". he'll never get beat, right? i know that's a bit extreme, but i'm just making a point. you want to draft a FOOTBALL player. measureables are only a TINY TINY TINY amount of what goes into deciding the right draft prospects.

[FlaccosFlock]

[quote name='Moderator9' post='155541' date='Feb 18 2009, 11:48 PM']so you're saying you'd take a guy with size over a guy with better fundamentals and ball skills?

if that's the case, then we should draft ramses barden to play corner. he's 6'6". he'll never get beat, right? i know that's a bit extreme, but i'm just making a point. you want to draft a FOOTBALL player. measureables are only a TINY TINY TINY amount of what goes into deciding the right draft prospects.[/quote]

I agree with you Moderator. A guy who is like Alphonso Smith is a ball hawk and doesn't allow seperation really at any level. I think you have to go off pure talent instead of athleticism.

By the way a MLB that we could get later in the draft that I really like is Frantz Joseph. We could get him anywhere from the 3rd to 5th round. He isn't that athletic but is a pure beast as far as a true football player. He had around 154 tackles in the 2008-2009 season. I think he is better in coverage than people give him credit for but his work ethic is ridiculous. Not to mention he is one of those people who just has field speed meaning that he has a different game speed then most even though his forty won't be ridiculous. I would love to get him with a later round pick.

1st Round- Sean Smith (CB) Utah (I just love this guy)
2nd Round- Jarron Gilbert (3-4 DE) San Jose State (Love the potential in our defense)
3rd Round- Ramses Barden (WR) Cal Poly (Big Redzone target for Joe and could be a great possession WR in the future)
4th Round- James Casey (TE) Rice (Reminds me of Chris Cooley)
5th Round- Frantz Joseph (MLB) Florida Atlantic (Reminds me a lot of Zach Thomas IMO)
6th Round- Graham Gano (K) FSU (Hopefully he falls to here and this was based on what happens to Stover)
7th Round- Travis McCall (FB) Alabama (Powerful Blocking fullback who is a beast at around 260)

[clayton89]

keep in mind we dont have a 5th and 6th round selection because of the douglas trade
unless we have some compensatory selections?

[FlaccosFlock]

[quote name='clayton89' post='156126' date='Feb 20 2009, 08:11 PM']keep in mind we dont have a 5th and 6th round selection because of the douglas trade
unless we have some compensatory selections?[/quote]

Good point, but I bet we end up some compensatory picks.

[Ravensfan23]

[quote name='bossman419' post='155370' date='Feb 18 2009, 04:55 PM']I've seen plenty of Smith... As a Maryland fan I can attest to what he does to opposing teams, but I can see it now, him being picked on by the Randy Moss', Larry Fitzgeralds, and Andre Johnsons. I'm not saying he is a bad corner. Cause he is not. What he lacks in height and speed he makes up for in hard work and perseverance, im just saying that the Ravens need a TALL physical corner.[/quote]

I disagree with him being picked on, but what cornerback doesn't get beat by these guys? You are talking about 3 of the best WRs in the league. I'll settle for a cornerback that can stick with Holmes down the field when Big Ben gets out of the pocket. I'll settle for a corner that want hesitate to play tight coverage and make a play on the ball, with the game on the line on the last drive. I'll settle for the guy that will come up and make a solid tackle, has a nose for the ball, and could really strike fear into a QB, making him think twice about throwing to his side.

I think Smith is exactly what the Ravens need and if they have the chance to get him i think they will. We all know that the Ravens don't draft cause of size or speed. They draft players that they feel are Ravens players and i feel that way about Smith. I have said before that if Smith were 2-3 inches taller he would be possibly the first DB off the board. When u have a kid with that type of talent and potential u don't pass him up just because of size.

[Moderator 9]

good response 23. i agree with you.

and we will NOT be getting any comp picks this year. you only get them if you have a free agent loss from the previous season that either got a larger contract or played great. we didn't have any of that last year.

now NEXT year might be different. we'll get comp picks for any of these players that we'll lose, and they'll probably all get either 3rd or 4th round picks: brown, lewis, scott. if we lost jim leonard, he might get us a 5th-6th