Ogden Jersey

[Purple Nurple]

On www.nflshop,com you can select from a list of countless players but his name isn't on there. If you custom make your own, it tells you it isn't allowed.


[url="http://www.nflshop.com/product/index.jsp?productId=1772680&cp=2237481.2238053&parentPage=family"]Click here and try and make an Ogden jersey[/url]



I did, however, get sneaky and put a space between the letters and it allowed it to be at least previewed but I have a feeling that if I ordered it I would get an email stating I was still breaking the rules.

I did get a screen-print off eBay but my entire collection is sewn-ons so it kinda sucks to have his be a a cheaper looking jersey.


Any idea why he wouldn't want his jersey being worn by his throngs of fans??????

[Purple Nurple]

Answered my own question. Its because he's retired. Seems silly to me.........

[McBoller]

y cant u get a jersey of a retired player? thats retarded

[Purple Nurple]

Does anybody have an idea why?

[WheresYourHelmetAhmadHall]

I guess because offensive linemen are unmarketable and few people care about them (other than hardcore fans)...and even fewer people care about them when theyre retired.

[dafoe]

I knew this would happen two years ago.... I bought a black authentic Ogden Jersey from Reebok two years ago. I rarely see them.

[Purple Nurple]

[quote name='WheresYourHelmetAhmadHall' post='154456' date='Feb 16 2009, 05:46 PM']I guess because offensive linemen are unmarketable and few people care about them (other than hardcore fans)...and even fewer people care about them when theyre retired.[/quote]

That makes sense, but you can't even get an Emmitt Smith, Jerry Rice, or Brett Favre jersey.


If the player you like is retired, you are SOL. I don't get it.

[theFRANCHISE]

The NFL has very strict rules regarding any product that involves retired players, because once they're retired, the rights to their name go through a different legal process.

Active players are fair game for virtually any marketed product by the NFL because of the contract they sign that is processed by the NFL Players Association. But once that player retires, their name (and the marketing rights that go along with it) go under a different set of rules so as to avoid exploitation.

When the NFL produces a documentary, they own the rights to the player's likeness and appearance ONLY in footage that the NFL has rights to (which automatically covers the player during their active career.) When the NFL produces a jersey, however, they cannot profit directly off of a retired player's name without his express written permission or a contractual agreement through the Players Association.

That's why there was legal action against EA Sports for the [i]implied[/i] use of retired players' likenesses on historical teams in the Madden NFL series, without royalties paid to those retired players. The few players that [i]were[/i] paid when their names were used outright, were not compensated as well as they should've been, and EA Sports was basically exploiting the players and their accomplishments, according to the lawsuit that the retired players won.

[darklight1216]

[quote name='theFRANCHISE' post='154511' date='Feb 16 2009, 08:20 PM']The NFL has very strict rules regarding any product that involves retired players, because once they're retired, the rights to their name go through a different legal process.

Active players are fair game for virtually any marketed product by the NFL because of the contract they sign that is processed by the NFL Players Association. But once that player retires, their name (and the marketing rights that go along with it) go under a different set of rules so as to avoid exploitation.

When the NFL produces a documentary, they own the rights to the player's likeness and appearance ONLY in footage that the NFL has rights to (which automatically covers the player during their active career.) When the NFL produces a jersey, however, they cannot profit directly off of a retired player's name without his express written permission or a contractual agreement through the Players Association.

That's why there was legal action against EA Sports for the [i]implied[/i] use of retired players' likenesses on historical teams in the Madden NFL series, without royalties paid to those retired players. The few players that [i]were[/i] paid when their names were used outright, were not compensated as well as they should've been, and EA Sports was basically exploiting the players and their accomplishments, according to the lawsuit that the retired players won.[/quote]


That's interesting. So what if you happen to have the last name as a retired player? If you try to personalize your jersey, you wouldn't even be able to.

[theFRANCHISE]

[quote name='darklight1216' post='154514' date='Feb 16 2009, 08:24 PM']That's interesting. So what if you happen to have the last name as a retired player? If you try to personalize your jersey, you wouldn't even be able to.[/quote]
Well, you wouldn't have that problem unless you try to match the name and number of a retired player. Keep in mind, the NFL's filtering system won't allow you to try to sneakily produce a retired player's exact name and number on a different team's jersey, neither. Nor will it allow you to try to create an active player's name and number on a team's jersey for which they don't play.

For instance, you can't make:
(Active player/diff. team example) R. Lewis #52, Eagles
(Retired player/diff. team example) Unitas #19, Raiders
(Retired player example) Rice #80, 49ers

Now, keep in mind, just because NFLShop will accept your name/number/team selection and let you preview, doesn't mean it'll be accepted because they reserve the right to cancel your order and force you to change your selection. From what I understand, they do a computerized check, and then sometimes do a manual one after that to make sure none slip through the cracks.

If you share the same name as a retired player, and wish to make one with the same number for the same team for which they played, you'd probably have to e-mail them about it and hope they'll allow it. You'd probably have to provide proof, of course, that it's your real name and you're not just trying to pull a fast one.

[darklight1216]

[quote name='theFRANCHISE' post='154517' date='Feb 16 2009, 08:30 PM']Well, you wouldn't have that problem unless you try to match the name and number of a retired player. Keep in mind, the NFL's filtering system won't allow you to try to sneakily produce a retired player's exact name and number on a different team's jersey, neither. Nor will it allow you to try to create an active player's name and number on a team's jersey for which they don't play.

For instance, you can't make:
(Active player/diff. team example) R. Lewis #52, Eagles
(Retired player/diff. team example) Unitas #19, Raiders
(Retired player example) Rice #80, 49ers

Now, keep in mind, just because NFLShop will accept your name/number/team selection and let you preview, doesn't mean it'll be accepted because they reserve the right to cancel your order and force you to change your selection. From what I understand, they do a computerized check, and then sometimes do a manual one after that to make sure none slip through the cracks.

If you share the same name as a retired player, and wish to make one with the same number for the same team for which they played, you'd probably have to e-mail them about it and hope they'll allow it. You'd probably have to provide proof, of course, that it's your real name and you're not just trying to pull a fast one. [/quote]

Wow you're full of information, I never knew all that. That's good to know because my last name is the same as at least two players in the Nfl.

[Sub-Zero]

of course if you love that player enough, you can take the Ocho Cinco route

[darklight1216]

[quote name='Sub-Zero' post='154523' date='Feb 16 2009, 08:36 PM']of course if you love that player enough, you can take the Ocho Cinco route [/quote]

Lol no thanks.

[BuckWilds]

[quote name='theFRANCHISE' post='154511' date='Feb 16 2009, 08:20 PM']The NFL has very strict rules regarding any product that involves retired players, because once they're retired, the rights to their name go through a different legal process.

Active players are fair game for virtually any marketed product by the NFL because of the contract they sign that is processed by the NFL Players Association. But once that player retires, their name (and the marketing rights that go along with it) go under a different set of rules so as to avoid exploitation.

When the NFL produces a documentary, they own the rights to the player's likeness and appearance ONLY in footage that the NFL has rights to (which automatically covers the player during their active career.) When the NFL produces a jersey, however, they cannot profit directly off of a retired player's name without his express written permission or a contractual agreement through the Players Association.

That's why there was legal action against EA Sports for the [i]implied[/i] use of retired players' likenesses on historical teams in the Madden NFL series, without royalties paid to those retired players. The few players that [i]were[/i] paid when their names were used outright, were not compensated as well as they should've been, and EA Sports was basically exploiting the players and their accomplishments, according to the lawsuit that the retired players won.[/quote]

Holy crap Franchise. Information download! The league needs to pay you some sort of advertising fee now.

[raven46]

[quote name='Sub-Zero' post='154523' date='Feb 16 2009, 07:36 PM']of course if you love that player enough, you can take the Ocho Cinco route [/quote]