Three Big Name Wr's Want To Be Traded

[flynismo]

[url="http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=ap-giants-burress&prov=ap&type=lgns"]On the block[/url]

[RavensIQ]

Boldin would be a beast across the middle.

Burress and Flacco would be deadly in the redzone.

Chad Johnson and Flacco would be the best deep threat combo in the league next to (Brady/Moss)

That being said I think we should pick up T.O.

[boogp]

would love to have boldin in our lineup.. i could care less for plexico or ocho cinco.. no room for drama queens here!

[Mishel]

I'd take any of the three. but really with our cap situation as it is, would we even have a shot at any of these players? unless we are trading draft picks, correct?

[mhead66]

[quote name='Mishel' post='153537' date='Feb 12 2009, 10:56 PM']I'd take any of the three. but really with our cap situation as it is, would we even have a shot at any of these players? unless we are trading draft picks, correct?[/quote]

The question is, would the Ravens be better off giving up (probably) a first round draft pick for a disgruntled Boldin, who will want $7-9 million/year? At the cost of not signing Lewis, Scott, Suggs or Brown - or a combination thereof?

Burress and Chad Johnson have too much baggage...

[FerrariFan87]

First we have to deal with Ray and Suggs, then worry about our big-play WR... I personally want Boldin, he's tough and exactly what we need in our division.

[theFRANCHISE]

I would personally take Anquan Boldin if I had my pick, but Chad Johnson is more likely. At first, it wouldn't seem likely that the Bengals would trade one of their star WRs to a divisional rival. Then again, the Bengals are run by Mike Brown, so anything's possible...

I'm not saying that Johnson would be a better acquisition than Boldin, but he'd certainly be more realistic given how Plaxico Burress will likely be too much of an issue, and Boldin probably won't come without an enormous asking price.

At this point, I'm open to almost all possibilities at WR. Minus acquiring Plaxico Burress or Terrell Owens, that is...

[smashmouth]

I'd take Ocho Cinco, 1. He would cost less 2. He;s not as much of a distraction as people make him out to be. 3 He's just as big as a deep threat as the rest.

Dont get me wrong, I think Bolden would be incrediable, but not at the cost of losing our defense to grab His contract and trade that ARZ would want.

[mhead66]

[quote name='smashmouth' post='153547' date='Feb 13 2009, 12:17 AM']I'd take Ocho Cinco, 1. He would cost less 2. He;s not as much of a distraction as people make him out to be. 3 He's just as big as a deep threat as the rest.

Dont get me wrong, I think Bolden would be incrediable, but not at the cost of losing our defense to grab His contract and trade that ARZ would want.[/quote]

"Ocho Cinco" is under contract for two more years, so he'd still need to be traded for, probably with draft picks. He's 31 years old, and his cap figure is $7.8 million in '09. He had only 53 catches for 540 yards (10.2 avg.), 4 TDs - admittedly, with Fitzpatrick throwing to him, his numbers suffered. However, Houshmandzadeh had 92 catches with the same QB... and he IS a head case.

The Bungles can keep him.

[codizzle]

please dont post Bengals stats from last year... they mean nothin...

all 3 would be beasts for us and all 3 are under contract so we would have to trade for all 3

[smashmouth]

[quote name='mhead66' post='153550' date='Feb 13 2009, 12:28 AM']"Ocho Cinco" is under contract for two more years, so he'd still need to be traded for, probably with draft picks. He's 31 years old, and his cap figure is $7.8 million in '09. He had only 53 catches for 540 yards (10.2 avg.), 4 TDs - admittedly, with Fitzpatrick throwing to him, his numbers suffered. However, Houshmandzadeh had 92 catches with the same QB... and he IS a head case.

The Bungles can keep him.[/quote]
Lets not get into numbers like that with a team like the Bengals. Todd Heap was regarded as one of the best at the TE, with BOLLER of all people throwing to Him, and yet we get a QB like Flacco and His numbers dropped.. Its the QB, which way was He looking, who cares, Johnson is a great deep threat and is more affordable then any of the others. Bolden is also under contract, and with a team like ARZ who dont even wanna get rid of Him will be asking ALOT.. say again ALOT more then the Bengals would be. Burress will be going to prison, what good is He if He's not here, plus the NFL will probally suspend Him. TJ Housyoumomma is going to probally be asking waaaay to much for what we can afford, yeah top 5 WR money. Maybe we just dont need any reciever at all except through the draft, but one thing is for sure, we wont be grabbing the Huge names that Most people want on here. So dream about it all you want, but the only name we can grab is probally Chad.

[flynismo]

I don't want Plexi here, but would love to see either Boldin or Bocha Grande here.

Both of their salaries will be roughly similiar (~$8M/year), but the trade offs are:

Johnson would be much cheaper to acquire via trade (probably a 2nd rounder, as opposed to a 1st rounder and another draft pick or two for Boldin)
However, Johnson is also older than Boldin (already on the wrong side of thirty) and doesn't strike me as the type of guy who will age well, because he relies strongly on his athleticism, rather than intelligence/route running/etc to be successful.

Boldin, in my opinion, is the second best wr in the NFL after Randy Moss. He's certainly on anyone's top 5, I don't care who's list you look at, he's in it. However his injury history is less than stellar. But when he plays, he is incredibly productive.

Personally, I would do whatever it takes to get Boldin over here. Johnson would be a nice consolation prize. Plaxi is a horse's arse....my .02

[ZIBBY28]

[quote name='flynismo' post='153570' date='Feb 13 2009, 02:43 AM']Boldin, in my opinion, is the second best wr in the NFL after Randy Moss. He's certainly on anyone's top 5, I don't care who's list you look at, he's in it. However his injury history is less than stellar. But when he plays, he is incredibly productive.[/quote]
i can probably think of 10 WR that i feel are more talented than boldin, number one being his teammate, Larry Fitzgerald.. from there in no particular order, moss, steve smith, reggie wayne, andre johnson, brandon marshall, t.o. (love to hate him, but hes still good), calvin johnson, even maybe players like marques colston and TJ Housh and then the list starts to slim..

with that being said, and to completely contradict what i just said, i would LOVE see boldin in a ravens uniform lol.. he is exactly what we need, but at the same time, i doubt i would sacrafice what it would take to bring him in and pay him the figures he's looking for because i feel like we need to take care of our own before going out and signing/trading for superstars

[mhead66]

[quote name='smashmouth' post='153557' date='Feb 13 2009, 01:29 AM']Lets not get into numbers like that with a team like the Bengals. Todd Heap was regarded as one of the best at the TE, with BOLLER of all people throwing to Him, and yet we get a QB like Flacco and His numbers dropped.. Its the QB, which way was He looking, who cares, Johnson is a great deep threat and is more affordable then any of the others. Bolden is also under contract, and with a team like ARZ who dont even wanna get rid of Him will be asking ALOT.. say again ALOT more then the Bengals would be. Burress will be going to prison, what good is He if He's not here, plus the NFL will probally suspend Him. TJ Housyoumomma is going to probally be asking waaaay to much for what we can afford, yeah top 5 WR money. Maybe we just dont need any reciever at all except through the draft, but one thing is for sure, we wont be grabbing the Huge names that Most people want on here. So dream about it all you want, but the only name we can grab is probally Chad.[/quote]

Heap was one of the best TEs in the NFL in '05 and '06, averaging 74 catches for 810 yards and 7 TDs. Last year he had 23 catches for 239, this year 35 catches for 403 yards, 23rd among TEs. Tony Gonzalez had 96-1058, for 10 TDs. However, asking him to block instead of recieve damages a TE's stats, and this doesn't apply to WRs.

Ocho Cinco had a lousy QB, but the fact is, Houshmandzadeh had the [b]same lousy QB[/b], and had 92 catches, 6th in the NFL. Ocho Cinco had 53 catches, 56th in the NFL. To give up high draft picks and pay a guy $7.8 million for that is ludicrous.

Gonzalez had 96-1058 with a lousy QB - Thigpen... TE Greg Olsen had better catches & yards than Ocho Cinco, and what QB did he have?

Better to draft a WR, than to pay for someone else's castoffs...

[bauer77]

i wish we would pursue boldin...i believe he is the youngest out of the 3? but we wont because we have our own free agents to resign and if everyone wants everyone back we can spend money on those big name WRs

[BloodRaven]

Ok say we trade for Boldin, we sign him with what money?

[bauer77]

Exactly with the money we are supposedly using to bring back suggs and ray we wont have money to bring in boldin

[bce086]

C-Macs money.

[bauer77]

we shouldnt cut him tho cause he is still a good player granted he doesnt get injured

[Rocky Mountain Raven]

C-Mac has to go. I personally think he's way past his best days on the football field.

[ravensgirlx88]

[quote name='FerrariFan87' post='153543' date='Feb 13 2009, 12:41 AM']First we have to deal with Ray and Suggs, then worry about our big-play WR... I personally want Boldin, he's tough and exactly what we need in our division.[/quote]

I agree, thing is I'm confused about what Boldin wants. First he was complaining about money, then he said it wasen't about money but managment? How much money does the guy want? If he wants too much I think Chad Johnson would be a really good fit in Baltimore as well.

[Shawn`]

I'm actually impressed at how little we've heard of Chad Johnson this whole season compared to the season before, espescially considering how they did worse this year. Maybe he kept quite so other teams would pick him up and not have to worry about his drama fits.

Guess it's working.

[Mahatma_Sloth]

[quote name='BloodRaven' post='153653' date='Feb 13 2009, 08:22 AM']Ok say we trade for Boldin, we sign him with what money?[/quote]
with the money we get from releasing C-Mac Heap and Rolle silly

[bce086]

[quote name='Mahatma_Sloth' post='153691' date='Feb 13 2009, 12:12 PM']with the money we get from releasing C-Mac Heap and Rolle silly [/quote]


You must be crazy... Heap will not get released.

We need either Rolle or Cmac in the back... I wouldn't be surprised if both remained on the team.
Although if 1 is going, its Cmac only because of his salary.

[Corvus]

No to all of them, we need to resign our own FA first, we can take care of our WR depth in the draft.

[MJSMOOTH]

c-mac stays gregg gota go we get rid of him we can sign ray we don't try get any of those wide out

[Marc2k6]

[quote name='BloodRaven' post='153653' date='Feb 13 2009, 10:22 AM']Ok say we trade for Boldin, we sign him with what money?[/quote]

Monopoly money will do I guess.

[Ed_Reed20]

The most important factor with these guys is how much they will cost. They are very good players with their own talents but if they are going to cost too much, the team will be better off drafting a receiver.

[jezzy]

i would want bolden but burress wouldnt be bad for joe with his hieght thats a match made in heaven but bolden would bring less bs.

[shaikh015]

[quote name='bce086' post='153692' date='Feb 13 2009, 01:21 PM']You must be crazy... Heap will not get released.

We need either Rolle or Cmac in the back... I wouldn't be surprised if both remained on the team.
Although if 1 is going, its Cmac only because of his salary.[/quote]
Heap is the best TE we have...WE need one of those two Corners back at-least...I don't want a rookie CB coming in and just being thrown into the forest with no camping gear!!!!!