Is Byron Leftwich Coming In

[travis25]

i heard hes coming in for a workout any truth to this

[Reed_4_President]

i heard hes coming in for a workout any truth to this

Pssf. I sure hope not. I am sure that is just false information, rumor. We have 3 QBS as it is, and they arn't going to let Troy go and I know they wont let Boller either he has a year left on his contract. So where is he going to sit? I mean it would be nice to have him replace Boller for next year when his contract runs out but this year where is he going to stay? no room for him.

[Raven07]

agreed....currently we have 3 Qbs, McNair, Boller and Troy.....im going to just get down to the nitty gritty here and get straight to the point of all this.....remember the Culpepper rumors of him coming in for a workout for us and all that? we turned it down and he went else where.......i would expect Leftwhich to do the same, there is absolutely NO SENSE in having 4 active QB's on our Roster......its obsurd and pointless and frankly just a waste of Time for both the Ravens and Leftwhich (im pretty dang sure that Leftwhich could benefit from watching and being with McNair and all that jazz) BUT we have already got 3 active QB's on the roster and already have our Starter and back up and 3 string QB's ALL lined up and set in stone (so to speak).....and they arent for dang sure about to let Troy walk away haha noooooooo wayyy, he has WAY to much poise, potential, leadership and humbleness about him......we are just adjusting and "fine tunining" his game skills to the Level they need to be at....which are currently progressing GREAT!!!!!!!

[Controled_Chaos]

from what im hearing the rumors are true we are showing alot of intrest in Leftwitch and if you recall we were orginally going after him in the draft and couldnt make a move up soe the jags snagged him and then we got boller i am intrested to see how this plays out i think we are perfectly fine we were our with Mcnair as the present and Boller as the backup and Smith as the future only time will tell on what will go on

[Raven07]

unfortunately the rumors are true... you can read about it here

http://www.baltimoresun.com/sports/footbal...,2331999.column

Ozzie said they wont sign him if asking for alot more money than what he's actually worth...so if Leftwihch is going to be with the Ravens (i really hope not...we already have enough QB's and Troy is coming along very nicely) he better not be asking for alot of money

[BrownsFan]

unfortunately the rumors are true... you can read about it here

http://www.baltimoresun.com/sports/footbal...,2331999.column

Ozzie said they wont sign him if asking for alot more money than what he's actually worth...so if Leftwihch is going to be with the Ravens (i really hope not...we already have enough QB's and Troy is coming along very nicely) he better not be asking for alot of money

People all over the Browns message board are all about getting him as well. I like Leftwich overall as a QB but I think it's just not the best idea for us anyways. For the Ravens, not so sure either. I mean, where are you gonna fit him? You're not gonna start him. If he's a backup, what does that say for Boller/Smith?

I think he should get a chance somewhere no doubt, but I don't Baltimore nor Cleveland are the right fit right now. If this move were done 3-4 weeks earlier, different story.

[Slick]

the only way i see it working is if we drop someone from the practice squad and drop Boller or Smith to that so Smith learns for an extra year while Leftwich is picked up and remains if Boller gets cut, pending both of their performances of course.

[Ravensfan23]

If the Ravens really wanted Leftwicth they could make it work without getting rid of anyone. There is no way Leftwitch would see action for the Ravens this season. We would bring him on as the 3rd QB behind McNair and Boller. The Ravens would pretty much be indicating that Boller would not be returning to the team with the addition of Leftwitch, so Leftwitch would be pretty much a lock to be #2 behind McNair next season and Troy Smith still developing at #3.

So if the Ravens really wanted to bring Leftwitch on this season. You sign him to a 1 year deal for the vet minium. There has been reports that Leftwitch isn't fully healed from his ankle injury, so u place him on the PUP list as soon as he signs. He would have 6 weeks to learn the playbook and sit back and rehab his ankle. If something should happen to McNair or Boller and they are forced to miss a long period of time then u activate Leftwitch after week 6 to be the back up. If nothing happens then Leftwitch goes on IR with a bum ankle. The next season you sign Leftwitch to a backup deal and hope he plays well in a back up role. Doing it this way saves u the risk of putting troy on waivers and hoping he clears.

Now of course for this to happen Leftwich would have to really want to come here and sit for a year. When u think about it he won't be playing for anyone this season anyway, because the season starts this week and he would have to learn the system and the players. So he would have to take in to consideration that he would be coming to a team that is really unstable at the QB positon(McNair's health and time remaining, free agent back up and rookie QB). He would be coming to a team that wants to have a gun slinger running the offense to really be able to strecth the field. Instead of sitting out a year and just working out, he could be in the system for a full year before reporting to his first camp. He would build a relationship with players and coaches, and would be able to learn from McNair just like Boller. Rick Neuheisel would have a full year to tweak Leftwitch's footwork and throwing motion if he felt it was needed.

I don't know what Leftwitch's situation is but this sounds like a good siuation for him, now of course like i said before leftwitch would have to really want to come here and take the vet minium for this season. If someone like the Redskins are willing to throw big money at him then he should rightfully take it. However i don't see that happening this season. Culpepper was lucky that Russell didn't report to camp, but i can't see to many teams offering leftwitch a #2 spot and definately not a #1 spot this season. So if the Ravens really wanted Leftwitch and Leftwitch really wanted to be a Ravens, they could make it work

[organizedchaos52]

Well atleast we know one thing, its either Kyle Boller gets released or Byron doesn't join at all. The ravens wouldn't of kept troy smith if they were trying sign leftwich.

[Reed_4_President]

the only way i see it working is if we drop someone from the practice squad and drop Boller or Smith to that so Smith learns for an extra year while Leftwich is picked up and remains if Boller gets cut, pending both of their performances of course.

Uh I don't think Troy would like that to much. Just from how he acts he probably would respond very angry if that were to happen. I mean come on he was the "Heisman" winner he has a BIG HEAD. I know being a Heisman winner doesn't mean crap in the NFL but still has a big head and I know he wont go for practice squad. He will want out of Baltimore quick. And I wouldn't agree with that move that would just be stupid. He needs to be next to McNair while we still have him and learn as much as he can.. notice Boller is coming along after 321312 years after McNair came here, so I think Smith needs to learn from McNair first hand as much as he can!. And that wont happen being on the practice squad.. he needs to be on the sidelines watching him up close and personal, talking to him during the game on the sidelines etc.

[Reed_4_President]

If the Ravens really wanted Leftwicth they could make it work without getting rid of anyone. There is no way Leftwitch would see action for the Ravens this season. We would bring him on as the 3rd QB behind McNair and Boller. The Ravens would pretty much be indicating that Boller would not be returning to the team with the addition of Leftwitch, so Leftwitch would be pretty much a lock to be #2 behind McNair next season and Troy Smith still developing at #3.

So if the Ravens really wanted to bring Leftwitch on this season. You sign him to a 1 year deal for the vet minium. There has been reports that Leftwitch isn't fully healed from his ankle injury, so u place him on the PUP list as soon as he signs. He would have 6 weeks to learn the playbook and sit back and rehab his ankle. If something should happen to McNair or Boller and they are forced to miss a long period of time then u activate Leftwitch after week 6 to be the back up. If nothing happens then Leftwitch goes on IR with a bum ankle. The next season you sign Leftwitch to a backup deal and hope he plays well in a back up role. Doing it this way saves u the risk of putting troy on waivers and hoping he clears.

Now of course for this to happen Leftwich would have to really want to come here and sit for a year. When u think about it he won't be playing for anyone this season anyway, because the season starts this week and he would have to learn the system and the players. So he would have to take in to consideration that he would be coming to a team that is really unstable at the QB positon(McNair's health and time remaining, free agent back up and rookie QB). He would be coming to a team that wants to have a gun slinger running the offense to really be able to strecth the field. Instead of sitting out a year and just working out, he could be in the system for a full year before reporting to his first camp. He would build a relationship with players and coaches, and would be able to learn from McNair just like Boller. Rick Neuheisel would have a full year to tweak Leftwitch's footwork and throwing motion if he felt it was needed.

I don't know what Leftwitch's situation is but this sounds like a good siuation for him, now of course like i said before leftwitch would have to really want to come here and take the vet minium for this season. If someone like the Redskins are willing to throw big money at him then he should rightfully take it. However i don't see that happening this season. Culpepper was lucky that Russell didn't report to camp, but i can't see to many teams offering leftwitch a #2 spot and definately not a #1 spot this season. So if the Ravens really wanted Leftwitch and Leftwitch really wanted to be a Ravens, they could make it work

That is actually a really good idea you have. I agree with you 100 percent.. and I think Leftwich should do it being he would be on one of the best teams in the NFL!. And most likely be the starter in 2 years.... for awhile and eventually Troy will be our #2 man. Not that bad of a deal heck I would take it if the Baltimore Ravens wanted me and I was a Veteran QB that was cut with a tore up ankle. I would nurse it as long as possible take what money I can, and wait patiently and eventually be the starter of a top 5 NFL Team!!. And yes all you non Raven fans on here we are in my opinion a top 5 team in the NFL, isn't many teams in the NFL above us I personally can only think of a few. Like Indy which I hate to admit but its true and New England few others but thats about it. Anyways don't want to go off topic to bad I hope this falls through with how you said they should do things, very smart idea and I am sure thats how they would pretty much handle the situation. One thing I would love about this is if it does happen we ALL know Boller wont be back next year!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! being that his contract is up after this year(That puts a HUGE smile on my face).

[Bullrush]

I just pray to god he doesn't join our team. Why everyone thinks he's a good QB or an upgrade over Boller is beyond me. Last time i checked Boller is still with us while the Jaguars cut Leftwich. He's one of the slowest QB's i have ever seen and his release is even slower. He doesn't fit in here. Re-sign Boller and let's move on.

[Tiz]

I just pray to god he doesn't join our team. Why everyone thinks he's a good QB or an upgrade over Boller is beyond me. Last time i checked Boller is still with us while the Jaguars cut Leftwich. He's one of the slowest QB's i have ever seen and his release is even slower. He doesn't fit in here. Re-sign Boller and let's move on.

The Jags cutting him and us keeping boller is not a true indication that he's worse than boller. Other wise why would any teams pick up a cut player? Culpepper was released from Miami, Oakland never released Walters but no one really believes that Walters is better than Culpepper.

Remember Kurt Warner was cut from NYG and from St.L and was still better than alot of teams #2 QBs. Your logic is really flawed. Leftwhich can get the job done, his health was as much a question as anything else about him.

As for people saying Troy won't like Leftwhich coming here. Who cares what Troy likes. Last I checked this wasn't Troy's team and he wasn't the GM. IF Troy or even Boller were to show they were the better QB then so be it. If leftwhich comes and shows he's the better QB then so be it. Boller lacks consistency and stability at the helm so why would any one want to stay complacent and have Boller at #2 and a young developing rookie QB at #3 behind an older and oft injured Mcnair is beyond me.

[tweety]

The Jags cutting him and us keeping boller is not a true indication that he's worse than boller.

As for people saying Troy won't like Leftwhich coming here. Who cares what Troy likes. Last I checked this wasn't Troy's team and he wasn't the GM.

It just means Boller fit our system more. A scrambling QB brings a fourth demension to the game. Our offense isn't developed for a pocket QB we need to use every aspect of the game to advance to ball and keep the defense honest.

I care very much because I want Troy Smith to feel confortable here. You saw what happen when McGahee lost pride for the Bills. Our players feed greatly off the pride.

We have a lot of projects going on Leftwich would be a hassle. What to do with Steve McNair, Kyle Boller, and Troy Smith. To much in the air let's settle a year, answer questions, and make a decision like that. We pass oportunity like this often, we will do it again.

[Bullrush]

The Jags cutting him and us keeping boller is not a true indication that he's worse than boller. Other wise why would any teams pick up a cut player?

Culpepper was released from Miami, Oakland never released Walters but no one really believes that Walters is better than Culpepper.

Remember Kurt Warner was cut from NYG and from St.L and was still better than alot of teams #2 QBs. Your logic is really flawed. Leftwhich can get the job done, his health was as much a question as anything else about him.

As for people saying Troy won't like Leftwhich coming here. Who cares what Troy likes. Last I checked this wasn't Troy's team and he wasn't the GM. IF Troy or even Boller were to show they were the better QB then so be it. If leftwhich comes and shows he's the better QB then so be it. Boller lacks consistency and stability at the helm so why would any one want to stay complacent and have Boller at #2 and a young developing rookie QB at #3 behind an older and oft injured Mcnair is beyond me.

Alright 1st of all i was trying to make a point. Boller is still with us, which means we're happy with having him on our team. The Jaguars got rid of Leftwich because they were sick of him. And no, he's not an upgrade over Boller. Once again, if you have watched Boller play the past 2 years you would know that he's a far better QB right now than he was 2 years ago. Leftwich hasn't made any progress since entering the league. He's a bust.

And 2ndly it has nothing to do with Troy being our GM or not. We drafted him because we want him to be our future franchise QB. We made that commitment when we decided to keep him on our 53 man squad. To bring in a bust who makes a lot of millions per year for not doing anything at all doesn't make any sense. We're set at QB. Plus there's a thing called "Salary Cap". Let's re-sign guys like Suggs and company before wasting any money on a bust who's not going to take a single snap this season.

[Ravensfan23]

Uh I don't think Troy would like that to much. Just from how he acts he probably would respond very angry if that were to happen. I mean come on he was the "Heisman" winner he has a BIG HEAD. I know being a Heisman winner doesn't mean crap in the NFL but still has a big head and I know he wont go for practice squad. He will want out of Baltimore quick. And I wouldn't agree with that move that would just be stupid. He needs to be next to McNair while we still have him and learn as much as he can.. notice Boller is coming along after 321312 years after McNair came here, so I think Smith needs to learn from McNair first hand as much as he can!. And that wont happen being on the practice squad.. he needs to be on the sidelines watching him up close and personal, talking to him during the game on the sidelines etc.

I don't really think Troy has a big head. He might be really confident in his abilities but i don't think he has a big head. At least that is not what i get when i hear Troy talk. Troy seems really humble and eager to learn. He seems to understand the it's a bussiness and at the end of the day the Ravens will do what is best for the team at the moment but still keep an eye on the furture.

As far as Troy going on practice squad and not being able to learn from McNair, well that simply isn't true. IF and its a big if, Troy clears waivers and is placed on the practice squad he will still be able to learn from McNair and others. He will still run the scout team vs the #1 defense in practice with will be great for him. As far as him learning from Steve on the sidelines in games, he will still be able to do so. Practice Squad players are allowed on the sideline for games. Now i don't think it would be smart to cut Troy and hope he clears waivers cause i don't think he will.

Alright 1st of all i was trying to make a point. Boller is still with us, which means we're happy with having him on our team. The Jaguars got rid of Leftwich because they were sick of him. And no, he's not an upgrade over Boller. Once again, if you have watched Boller play the past 2 years you would know that he's a far better QB right now than he was 2 years ago. Leftwich hasn't made any progress since entering the league. He's a bust.

And 2ndly it has nothing to do with Troy being our GM or not. We drafted him because we want him to be our future franchise QB. We made that commitment when we decided to keep him on our 53 man squad. To bring in a bust who makes a lot of millions per year for not doing anything at all doesn't make any sense. We're set at QB. Plus there's a thing called "Salary Cap". Let's re-sign guys like Suggs and company before wasting any money on a bust who's not going to take a single snap this season.

Well as far as us being happy with Boller as our backup i agree, however we don't know if Boller will actually resign with us. He says he loves the city and the team but many fans/media has been really ****ty towards this kid. He may want to leave just to get a fresh start. So it's not a bad idea to have talks with Leftwich and also try to resign Boller. If Boller leaves then Leftwich has already been in the system for a year to learn. If u can resign Boller then the FO thinks he can get the job done. At this point nobody knows if Troy Smith can be a starting QB in this league. As much as many of us like troy smith he has proven anything yet. With Leftwich you have a guy that has been a starter in this league and can get the ball downfield. McNair won't be around long, leftwich is only 26 i beleive. So he would be a guy that can come in and continue to lead this team until Troy proves he's the man for the job. It normal for people to be on both sides of the fence. So would love to have leftwich others would like to keep Boller, and some are just waiting for McNair to go so Troy can be the man.

[Tiz]

It just means Boller fit our system more. A scrambling QB brings a fourth demension to the game. Our offense isn't developed for a pocket QB we need to use every aspect of the game to advance to ball and keep the defense honest.

I care very much because I want Troy Smith to feel confortable here. You saw what happen when McGahee lost pride for the Bills. Our players feed greatly off the pride.

We have a lot of projects going on Leftwich would be a hassle. What to do with Steve McNair, Kyle Boller, and Troy Smith. To much in the air let's settle a year, answer questions, and make a decision like that. We pass oportunity like this often, we will do it again.

who cares if a late round 3rd string QB is comfortable or not. If he is uncomfortable at the thought that someone out there may "take his job" then he isn't fit for a competitive sport.

If you or any one else is truely a Troy fan and think he's a capable player and a quality NFL QB then he should NOT be affected by outside competition. If we cared about what other players felt then we shouldn't have brought in Willis cause Mike Anderson may have felt uncomfortable with his chances of making 3rd String HB...

[Tiz]

Alright 1st of all i was trying to make a point. Boller is still with us, which means we're happy with having him on our team. The Jaguars got rid of Leftwich because they were sick of him. And no, he's not an upgrade over Boller. Once again, if you have watched Boller play the past 2 years you would know that he's a far better QB right now than he was 2 years ago. Leftwich hasn't made any progress since entering the league. He's a bust.

Leftwhich is a bust and Kyle isn't. Ok who needs to watch Boller more, me or the guy who forgets that Kyle is still as inconsistent as ever and is so jittery at the helm that he sacked himself last year.

Don't talk to me about other QB's being a bust when we paid beacoup bucks to get a quality starter at QB because Kyle wasn't that guy.

Now forgive me for not being a blind homer and understand the game better than one who says that player X is better than player Y because Player X is on our roster.

[PuppyPuncher]

I like Byron Leftwich, if he is willing to sign a 1-year deal, then I say sign him.

[BmoreBlitz]

i think it would cause too much of a distraction in the locker room. Boller should know by now that his time is limited. But what about Mcnair? I don't think he plans to hang up the cleats after this year so would signing Leftwich cause a distraction?

[Ravensfan23]

i think it would cause too much of a distraction in the locker room. Boller should know by now that his time is limited. But what about Mcnair? I don't think he plans to hang up the cleats after this year so would signing Leftwich cause a distraction?

I'm sure a vet like McNair would know and understand the business and logic of bringing in Leftwich. Even if the Ravens held a little open QB comp next preseason for the starting position i'm sure McNair would understand. I don't see them bringing in Leftwich for the starting job as long as McNair is her. However the bottomline is that the Ravens are a little uneasy at the QB position. We have an aging QB that may be in his last couple of years, without any other QB on the roster that has proved much of anything in this league. As much as some people might think that KB has turned the corner after learning from McNair, he still has to prove he can go out and play at a high level that allows this team to compete. IMHO i beleive that bringing on Leftwich can do nothing but improve our changes as a team. Maybe not this season, actually definately not this season for to set up for the future when ever that should arrive. Even if somehow Leftwich and Boller are here next season and are allow to battle it out for the top spot, it can only help the team. As far as this season goes i would hate to lose Troy without seeing what he can be. However i think giving the chance, every GM, Coach, Owner, Fan, or even fantasy owner would take Leftwich in a trade striaght up for a unproven Troy Smith

[Slick]

I'm sure a vet like McNair would know and understand the business and logic of bringing in Leftwich. Even if the Ravens held a little open QB comp next preseason for the starting position i'm sure McNair would understand. I don't see them bringing in Leftwich for the starting job as long as McNair is her. However the bottomline is that the Ravens are a little uneasy at the QB position. We have an aging QB that may be in his last couple of years, without any other QB on the roster that has proved much of anything in this league. As much as some people might think that KB has turned the corner after learning from McNair, he still has to prove he can go out and play at a high level that allows this team to compete. IMHO i beleive that bringing on Leftwich can do nothing but improve our changes as a team. Maybe not this season, actually definately not this season for to set up for the future when ever that should arrive. Even if somehow Leftwich and Boller are here next season and are allow to battle it out for the top spot, it can only help the team. As far as this season goes i would hate to lose Troy without seeing what he can be. However i think giving the chance, every GM, Coach, Owner, Fan, or even fantasy owner would take Leftwich in a trade striaght up for a unproven Troy Smith

Boller is doing much better as a backup than he ever did as a starter. thats where i think he should stay and im glad he was resigned for another year since our starting QB situation still isnt certain.

[tweety]

Boller is an excellent Back-up I don't expect much more improvement from him

Smith is learning and I expect him to improve but I hope he will improve enough to be our starter.

As of now our only starter is McNair it's up to the coach to solve this problem now or later. Leftwich could be the solution to our offense but we must sacrifice money which will tone down our defense. I don't think it's worth the risk. unless we trade Boller for Leftwich and a third round pick (you know how greedy Raven's GMs are) It won't work.