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Fitzgerald has come out recently and said he is willing to restructure to keep Boldin in the mix... now that's classy, but it doesn't help our chances of landing him.
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[quote name='POE' post='146412' date='Jan 28 2009, 07:53 PM']Busting my balls and flying off the handle is 2 different things and you were flying off the handle like you typically do around here. Believe me I can take a little trash talk but you took it to another level and don't respect that, especially coming from another fan of the team that I love on a internet forum. You need some work in that area..but i will forgive you.

Look at it from a management side and tell me that you would give Boldin 1st round trade status when the guy along side of him is the superstar of the WR core and possibly the best in the league. He is the 2nd WR on the team not because that is how the depth chart was made but because he isn't as good as the other guy. He may be a great #1 WR on another team but he isn't right now and front offices are going to laugh at the Cardinals if they try and get too much from a 2nd best.

T.O. and Randy Moss are not on the same team so why would I answer that and just to get it all out, are you saying that Boldin is on these guys level?

I never said that Sizzle isn't a great player and believe me I love him as much as anybody but he is not an elite player. He is unique in what he brings to the table but neither one of our LB's are worth 1st round value at this stage of the game. I wouldn't give 2 first rounders for anybody unless it was guarenteed that they stay healthy and played until they were 45. That is just ridiculous when there is so much talent to be had along with youth with 1st rounders. I don't think that Suggs would be as great if he didn't have Ray and Scott next to him and he has said that himself in his most recent interviews so saying that he would be more of a star without these guys is crazy.

As far as the Harrison-Wayne talk goes, you dug your own hole with that rubbish so you get yourself out of it.[/quote]

Maannnn don't be so sensitive. Did I hurt your feelings for calling you out on a stupid comment?

"Boldin nor Suggs is worth a 1st round draft pick" <<That all you poe. That's your brainchild. you made that statement.

But you know what? I'm sorry lil buddy. Will you forgive me? Will you be my friend again? Want me to buy you some icecream and take you the batting cages? Poor lil guy. Don't cry.

If you don't wanna play along then don't start the game. I'm just saying...Boldin's value is more than what you're giving him. And the only reason for my questions was so that I could explain to you my reasoning. you think I'm wrong on this one. I'm just trying to show you why I'm not.

Are you saying Boldin is overrated? Or are you saying he's not worth a 1st round draft pick bcuz you think he's the #2 wr?

If Fitzgerald didn't play for the Cardinals and it was just Anquan Boldin...would he be worth a 1st round draft pick in your opinion?

I apologize if I upset you. Honestly. But just play along. List your top 5 draft prospects of 2009 and then rank them among Manning, Lewis, Boldin, Suggs, and Moss. I wanna prove my point, not discredit yours. Plz.
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Yea I love guys like Fitz that understand that having a guy like Boldin helps him and the team.

Reminds me of the selfless acts that Scott showed not long ago to keep our LB's together.
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[quote name='RavensIQ' post='146464' date='Jan 28 2009, 08:24 PM']Maannnn don't be so sensitive. Did I hurt your feelings for calling you out on a stupid comment?

"Boldin nor Suggs is worth a 1st round draft pick" <<That all you poe. That's your brainchild. you made that statement.

But you know what? I'm sorry lil buddy. Will you forgive me? Will you be my friend again? Want me to buy you some icecream and take you the batting cages? Poor lil guy. Don't cry.

If you don't wanna play along then don't start the game. I'm just saying...Boldin's value is more than what you're giving him. And the only reason for my questions was so that I could explain to you my reasoning. you think I'm wrong on this one. I'm just trying to show you why I'm not.

Are you saying Boldin is overrated? Or are you saying he's not worth a 1st round draft pick bcuz you think he's the #2 wr?

If Fitzgerald didn't play for the Cardinals and it was just Anquan Boldin...would he be worth a 1st round draft pick in your opinion?

I apologize if I upset you. Honestly. But just play along. List your top 5 draft prospects of 2009 and then rank them among Manning, Lewis, Boldin, Suggs, and Moss. I wanna proof my point, not discredit yours. Plz.[/quote]

LOL..WOW!!

1. You have not hurt my feelings and I am not being sensitive to anything anybody says on the internet. Asking me for ice cream sounds kind of like you have some issues with your manhood and the little buddy comments is just plain childish. Please grow up and post like a big boy that makes some sense.

2. I do not call my explainations on something that I find interest in a game, nor did I start anything. I was just stating how I didn't feel that Boldin was worth what every one was predicting he was worth and backing those staements up the best I could.

3. I never said Boldin is overrated, only that he wasn't worth 1st round value in a trade.

4. Please stop trying to get more out of what I have said and take what I have said for what it is worth. I don't feel he is worth what some have predicted and have backed it up with the best of my ability. TAKE IT OR LEAVE IT!
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Poe doesn't want to play with me :(

Poe..You're not a crack bingeing idiot. Seriously. You're just an idiot.. :lol: joking!

Ok so here I'll prove my own point. Ill need a volunteer to assist me with their opinion.

top prospects for 2009
1. Michael Crabtree
2. Andre Smith
3. Aaron Curry
4. Everett Brown
5. Malcolm Jenkins

where they Rank

1. Manning
2. Lewis
3. Moss
4. Suggs
5. Boldin
6. Crabtree
7. Smith
8. Jenkins
9. Curry
10. Brown

Anyone agree with these rankings? If not plz correct them.

Now my question is: If you could trade your 2009 1st round draft pick for anyone of these players, which one would you select. In fact, list all the players in order of who you would select 1st, 2nd, 3rd, ect...
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I know this has been said a lot but Boldin is definitely worth a 1st round draft pick. With the Ravens having the 27th pick overall non of the top tier WR are going to fall to us. He is a nasty WR with disgusting hands and he is definitely in his prime right now. Fitzgerald is definitely better than Boldin by numbers but if you look at their overall careers, Boldin has only played 4 more games than Fitzgerald and Boldin still leads Fitzgerald by 521 yards and only trails fitzgerald by 6 touchdowns. Even though Fitzgerald has more TD's and he gets more T.V. coverage and publicity Boldin would definitely look sexy in purple and black next year. And with Flacco throwing rockets to him...... game over...... Pittsburgh here we come :D
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[quote name='Ravnet' post='146417' date='Jan 28 2009, 07:59 PM']I don't even know where to begin when addressing some of the comments :mellow:[/quote]
I second that motion. :(
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[url="http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/playoffs2008/news/story?id=3867088"]http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/playoffs2008...tory?id=3867088[/url]

Larry Fitz is willing to restructure his own deal in order to keep Boldin. I bet he's doing that bc Boldin is "old" and "not worth draft picks". I bet Larry only wants him there to make himself look better, not because he knows it'll keep him from double coverage more often, or that Boldin is an awesome teammate. I bet he thinks Boldin is a "cancer" for the franchise, and just loves seeing it crumble from the inside.....

anyone who doesn't want Boldin, i'm sorry but I'll take Larry Fitz's advice on this one
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[quote name='RavensIQ' post='146477' date='Jan 28 2009, 08:40 PM']Poe doesn't want to play with me :(

Poe..You're not a crack bingeing idiot. Seriously. You're just an idiot.. :lol: joking!

Ok so here I'll prove my own point. Ill need a volunteer to assist me with their opinion.

top prospects for 2009
1. Michael Crabtree
2. Andre Smith
3. Aaron Curry
4. Everett Brown
5. Malcolm Jenkins

where they Rank

1. Manning
2. Lewis
3. Moss
4. Suggs
5. Boldin
6. Crabtree
7. Smith
8. Jenkins
9. Curry
10. Brown

Anyone agree with these rankings? If not plz correct them.

Now my question is: If you could trade your 2009 1st round draft pick for anyone of these players, which one would you select. In fact, list all the players in order of who you would select 1st, 2nd, 3rd, ect...[/quote]



ooh, I wanna play! Pick me!! Pick me!! Pleeeeeaaaaasseeeeee!!!!!!!!!!

I can?? Yea!

Ok, here's what I got, varies only slightly from your rankings....

[list=1]
[*]Manning
[*]Lewis
[*]Moss
[*]Boldin
[*]Suggs
[*]Jenkins
[*]Crabtree
[*]Smith
[*]Curry
[*]Brown
[/list]If I owned Baltimore and could trade my 2009 1st round selection for anyone one of them, I would trade it for Manning. If Indy laughed at me and said no, then I would trade it to Arizona for Boldin. If they said no also, then I'd see if Bilicheat would give me Moss. If he shot me down, then I'd just go home and cry, then remember that it's all good cuz my sacred #1 (26th overall) could get me, well.... wait...can I throw in a 3rd rounder to get one of those guys? Please?
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[quote name='FerrariFan87' post='146460' date='Jan 28 2009, 08:18 PM']Fitzgerald has come out recently and said he is willing to restructure to keep Boldin in the mix... now that's classy, but it doesn't help our chances of landing him.[/quote]

that almost makes me happy though. i think after this it'll be easier for us to retain our LBs. if they truly wanna stick together as a team then hey, Fitzy has shown them the way. and if that means we dont get Boldin than i dont care. id rather keep ALL our lbs together than lose one or two for a reciever. Up to this point, i didn't think it'd be possible but if SOMEONE in the NFL can cut their paycheck to let someone else stay on the team, than I'm sure our guys can work something out. besides the Ravens seem less like a team and more like a family. thats one of the reasons ill be a Ravens fan til I die.

anyways, IQ and Poe, y'all need to kiss and make up and forget all this bs, move on to something else already it's not right for fans to fight each other....especially if they're rooting for the same team :lol:
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screw u all here's my list lol jk


Jenkins
Crabtree
Smith
Curry
brown
Manning
Lewis
Moss
Boldin
Suggs
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[quote name='Slick' post='146560' date='Jan 29 2009, 12:39 AM']anyways, IQ and Poe, y'all need to kiss and make up and forget all this bs, move on to something else already it's not right for fans to fight each other....especially if they're rooting for the same team :lol:[/quote]

It is in his nature to come off the way he does. Just look at any topic that is a great interest(specifically the Flacco vs. Troy topics) through out the fan base and read the crap he gives people for their point of views. I don't hold anything personal..IMHO I think you need people like him on these sites, if only to get a laugh. I have my opinions he has his, I just don't respect the way he comes off, and even when he is dead wrong he just keeps going and trys to make you look bad.

BOTTOM LINE: I would love to have Boldin! I don't think he is worth 1st round value! Anyone who disagrees feel free to debate! I have given my reasoning behind why I feel this way and if you still don't agree then Take It Or Leave It! because this is where you talk about these things with other fans.
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[quote name='pick-ups' post='146282' date='Jan 28 2009, 05:02 PM']It was more of a demoralizing loss considering they could`nt protect their QB at all and the Eagles ended up injuring Big Ben along with Willie Parker.

The Eagles did to Pittsburgh what they like to do to other teams....be more physical.

Westbrook also went out in the 1st drive rolling his ankle on Runyan.

The Eagles offense was good enough while their defense was dominant.[/quote]

it was a combo of good eagles play and poor steelers play

the steelers fell apart in that game

that was the worst game we played all season....too bad you guys didnt make it to the bowl.....we could of showed you the real steelers.....we will just have to settle for beatin up on the cards
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Isnt boldin younger than T.J.? i think he is but everybody says they want T.J. even with his mouth and him gettin older
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[quote name='bauer77' post='146597' date='Jan 29 2009, 10:22 AM']Isnt boldin younger than T.J.? i think he is but everybody says they want T.J. even with his mouth and him gettin older[/quote]

He is younger, but Boldin is also alot more money then T.J would be. If it came at the expensive of losing our LB's I'd happily take TJ
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[quote name='ravensgirlx88' post='146599' date='Jan 29 2009, 10:27 AM']He is younger, but Boldin is also alot more money then T.J would be. If it came at the expensive of losing our LB's I'd happily take TJ[/quote]


Id love to keep our defense intact tho and then jus draft a wr if we didnt get boldin...at least we could get a younger guy and groom him behind mason and clayton and then he would take over for mason in a few year that way we could keep suggs scott and lewis idk what will happen wit that situation tho...
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[quote name='bauer77' post='146600' date='Jan 29 2009, 10:29 AM']Id love to keep our defense intact tho and then jus draft a wr if we didnt get boldin...at least we could get a younger guy and groom him behind mason and clayton and then he would take over for mason in a few year that way we could keep suggs scott and lewis idk what will happen wit that situation tho...[/quote]
Agreed. We'll all just have to old our breathe til Draft day! :D
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[quote name='ravensgirlx88' post='146601' date='Jan 29 2009, 10:30 AM']Agreed. We'll all just have to old our breathe til Draft day! :D[/quote]



Or jus till free agency begins lol
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[quote name='bauer77' post='146605' date='Jan 29 2009, 10:33 AM']Or jus till free agency begins lol[/quote]

Which is pretty close to draft day.. isn't it Feb 27th?
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[quote name='ravensgirlx88' post='146607' date='Jan 29 2009, 10:35 AM']Which is pretty close to draft day.. isn't it Feb 27th?[/quote]



I believe so...i no its starts around the end of feb. a few weeks after the super bowl
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[quote name='POE' post='146576' date='Jan 29 2009, 07:59 AM']BOTTOM LINE: I would love to have Boldin! I don't think he is worth 1st round value! Anyone who disagrees feel free to debate![/quote]


I have two words for you:

[size=3]Deion. Branch.[/size]
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[url="http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/9146838/Fitzgerald:-I-will-tweak-my-contract-to-keep-Boldin?MSNHPHMA"]http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/9146838...Boldin?MSNHPHMA[/url]

Hopes of getting him are looking slim. Especially if they win the Superbowl. I think it's most likley Boldin will stay in AZ if they offer him more money, which they probablly will.

If this is the case, i'd be happy with TJ.. Hopefully he would give us some extra money for our LB'S.
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[quote name='flynismo' post='146660' date='Jan 29 2009, 11:50 AM']I have two words for you:

[size=3]Deion. Branch.[/size][/quote]


I have one word.
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
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[quote name='Marc2k6' post='146662' date='Jan 29 2009, 11:51 AM']I have one word.
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO![/quote]

lol...
okay, how 'bout Roy Williams then?
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Im sure (and i think many of you would agree with me on this) that this is the type of situation not to be TOO caught up into, Ozzie has done and will continue to do, a fantastic job at bringing in talented players at any given position, whether it be Free Agency, or through the Draft, or a trade, it really doesnt matter with Ozzie here. We've all seen year after year, how Ozzie is able to bring in the playmakers (most notable from this past off-season) would have to be Fabian Washington OR Lorenzo Neal, or Frank Walker OR Leonard. Out of those few names (just as an example) which name jumped out at you the most when you heard them call it last off-season?.... for me it was Neal and what he brings to the table for any offensive scheme. I didnt really know too too much about the others but hey Im not Ozzie nor do i do his job. And if you really think about it, There is bound to be at least one Big Name Free Agent player that we bring in here to play for us, whom that may be remains to be seen but we'll surely have a BIg Name Free Agent come to baltimore once more.

Boldin,sure he's a great player with Considerable talent and sure he brings alot to a team (both on and off the field) sure he's an electric playmaking force whenever he has the ball, but guess what?....... he's not the only one thats going to be out there once Free Agency comes into full swing, there are a multitude amount of play makers thats going to be out there once it hits. And hey, thus we must not forget about the upcoming NFL draft, simply being because of the fact that it plays such an huge role in every single teams approach to the season and whatever else. So even still, if we dont pick up a Big Name Free Agent at the Wide Reciever position.... The NFL draft is always a reliable Option that we all must think about here. Picking up a guy whom we can truly "mold" into our scheme and system and whom is eager to learn our system with the mindset of " learn more more more" with Fresh legs and speed and hands because they're younger and more agile.... Thats something that comes to mind, thats somerthing that we all must take into consideration here.
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I was really really hoping we would pick up Boldin. If he decides to stay in Arizona, I hope we pass on the rest of the receivers and just go through the draft. I really don't think TJ would be a good fit on our team.
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[quote name='flynismo' post='146667' date='Jan 29 2009, 12:01 PM']lol...
okay, how 'bout Roy Williams then?[/quote]

Don't forget that Roy Williams will not be a free agent this year. He extended his contract to remain as a Cowboy for 5 years.
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[quote name='ravensgirlx88' post='146607' date='Jan 29 2009, 10:35 AM']Which is pretty close to draft day.. isn't it Feb 27th?[/quote]
That's not THAT close to draft day. Draft day is April 25-26, so that's like two months. But then again, two months can go by pretty quickly, so I guess you're right...
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Don't underestimate what you already have. A lot of falcons fans including me wanted to see Roddy gone before the beginning of his third season, but look at how wrong we were.
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