We're Interested In Boldin...

[Purple Punishment]

well if we could get away with trading a 1st rounder and one of next years picks then I say go for it. We dont have to waste any time developing a young receiver who may be a bust. We have an instant #1 guy.

[RavensIQ]

[quote name='flynismo' post='146008' date='Jan 28 2009, 01:56 PM']Anybody who doesn't want Boldin here because they're worried about our 1st round pick needs to go follow tennis or golf or something.[/quote]
funny man.

[macbrak]

From what I've heard this draft will be stupid with WRs and I can't see this happening unless they are really desperate to get rid of him and we are willing to let some off the re-signings test the FA waters.

[flynismo]

[quote name='Slick' post='146009' date='Jan 28 2009, 01:58 PM']thats why you throw CMac in with the trade. He was one of the few vets who didn't "buy-in" to Harbaugh's system and ever since Barylon Edwards burned the heck out of him, he hasn't played nearly as well (lingering knee problems which is why he was put on IR this year). Chris is still a top-tier cornerback, but he's getting old and his knees are failing him and he's too expensive to keep. So throw him in alongside a 1st and 4th rounder and the trade looks a little sexier to the Cards. They could use the vetean leadership to make Antrel Rolle one of the elite CBs in the league.[/quote]



Heck yeah, that would be a great trade, but I think we'd still take a nasty cap hit for trading Cmac, wouldn't we?

[macbrak]

No from what I understand C-Mac's cap hit (~2mil) is acceptable since we'd be paying him as the top player on the team otherwise.

[Slick]

[quote name='flynismo' post='146015' date='Jan 28 2009, 02:04 PM']Heck yeah, that would be a great trade, but I think we'd still take a nasty cap hit for trading Cmac, wouldn't we?[/quote]

idk, but Bisciotti said he's more than willing to pursue something special through FA, and this would kinda kill two birds with one stone in a sense, because we could still pick up decent talent in the 2nd round as far as CBs go and try and mold him into a new #1/#2 guy

[Bullrush]

[quote name='RavensIQ' post='145996' date='Jan 28 2009, 01:26 PM']They're already there. Mason is 35 and Harrison is 36.[/quote]
I know. And it's gonna be the same with Boldin. He'll be just as effective in his mid 30s if he stays in shape. It's guys like Figurs, Freeney, Abraham, Tomlinson and company that will become less and less effective by the time they hit 29 or 30 because all they have to offer is speed.

[RavensIQ]

[quote name='macbrak' post='146013' date='Jan 28 2009, 02:02 PM']From what I've heard this draft will be stupid with WRs and I can't see this happening unless they are really desperate to get rid of him and we are willing to let some off the re-signings test the FA waters.[/quote]

It's not about them wanting to get rid of him it's about whether or not they can afford him. If they don't restructure his contract and give the $$ he deserves he's going to be very pissed off. That's not the approach they'll want to take with him since he's entering the last year of his contract. If they **** him and make him play the 09 season for chump change (referring to millions of dollars as chump change depresses me ) then when it comes time to re-sign him do you really think Boldin is going to be eager to sign the dotted line?

After 09 he's a free agent and once he hits the market the Cardinals wont get ANYTHING in terms of value for him. And even then, if they tried to trade him everyone knows they can just wait a couple months until Free Agency opens to make an acquisition for him. So the Cards trade value will take a HUUUGE hit bcuz they won't hold the leverage anymore. That's why they need to make a play this year b4 the season starts. They either need to re-sign him to a big contract or trade him so they can get maximum value for him. Another thing to take into account is this: 2 WRs on the same roster taking up 10-20% of the cap? Plus with Fitzy/Beaston (haha breaston) having the season they're having the Cardinals may not need Boldin like they once did...Now might be the perfect time to make something happen.

[Rocky Mountain Raven]

So many people keep saying Boldin's not worth a 1st round pick, and that we need to ensure our future. I think your forgetting about the right now. Right now we have an offense that is waiting for a missing link, right now we have a punishing defense 2nd overall in the NFL, right now we are contenders for a Superbowl Victory. Forget the hopes and dreams of 1st round WR and go after someone like Boldin who can fill in the blanks on offense "Right Now".

[Ed So Pa Fan]

[quote name='Ravens52' post='145950' date='Jan 28 2009, 11:09 AM'][url="http://www.baltimoresun.com/sports/football/bal-sp.superbowl28jan28,0,7089743.story"]http://www.baltimoresun.com/sports/footbal...0,7089743.story[/url]


Oh man, would I love my non favorite Raven player to come here..

Let's make this happen [/quote]


A team that succeeds with chemistry and TEAM attitude does not need a cancer.
The ravens almost made a mistake with TO. Thank the Good Lord TO saved us.

Boldin challenged the coach while on the sidelines in a Big Game. He walked off the field and did not join the team in a celebration. What other cancer things has he done? Has he given his all?

We do not need a piranha, we want TEAM players. Send him to the Steelers. That will help the Ravens.

TO, Ocho and Boldin are cancers. Te most positive think we can pray for is the go to our best competition. Ouch


Where do poeple get these ideas????

Ed So Pa Fan
escheinersold@prodigy.net

[RavensIQ]

[quote name='Ed So Pa Fan' post='146030' date='Jan 28 2009, 02:24 PM']A team that succeeds with chemistry and TEAM attitude does not need a cancer.
The ravens almost made a mistake with TO. Thank the Good Lord TO saved us.

Boldin challenged the coach while on the sidelines in a Big Game. He walked off the field and did not join the team in a celebration. What other cancer things has he done? Has he given his all?

We do not need a piranha, we want TEAM players. Send him to the Steelers. That will help the Ravens.

TO, Ocho and Boldin are cancers. Te most positive think we can pray for is the go to our best competition. Ouch


Where do poeple get these ideas????

Ed So Pa Fan
escheinersold@prodigy.net[/quote]


Put. The crack pipe. Down.

[Rocky Mountain Raven]

[quote name='Ed So Pa Fan' post='146030' date='Jan 28 2009, 12:24 PM']A team that succeeds with chemistry and TEAM attitude does not need a cancer.
The ravens almost made a mistake with TO. Thank the Good Lord TO saved us.

Boldin challenged the coach while on the sidelines in a Big Game. He walked off the field and did not join the team in a celebration. What other cancer things has he done? Has he given his all?

We do not need a piranha, we want TEAM players. Send him to the Steelers. That will help the Ravens.

TO, Ocho and Boldin are cancers. Te most positive think we can pray for is the go to our best competition. Ouch


Where do poeple get these ideas????

Ed So Pa Fan
escheinersold@prodigy.net[/quote]

Whoah, I wouldnt classify him with trash like T.O or Ocho. An argument with a coach is one thing, being a clown on the field is another.

[flynismo]

[quote name='Slick' post='146020' date='Jan 28 2009, 02:06 PM']idk, but Bisciotti said he's more than willing to pursue something special through FA, and this would kinda[b] kill two birds with one stone [/b]in a sense, because we could still pick up decent talent in the 2nd round as far as CBs go and try and mold him into a new #1/#2 guy[/quote]

lmao!

[Slick]

[quote name='Ed So Pa Fan' post='146030' date='Jan 28 2009, 02:24 PM']A team that succeeds with chemistry and TEAM attitude does not need a cancer.
The ravens almost made a mistake with TO. Thank the Good Lord TO saved us.

Boldin challenged the coach while on the sidelines in a Big Game. He walked off the field and did not join the team in a celebration. What other cancer things has he done? Has he given his all?

We do not need a piranha, we want TEAM players. Send him to the Steelers. That will help the Ravens.

TO, Ocho and Boldin are cancers. Te most positive think we can pray for is the go to our best competition. Ouch


Where do poeple get these ideas????

Ed So Pa Fan
escheinersold@prodigy.net[/quote]

Boldin is a competitor. He got into that argument on the sideline because he was benched on the last drive of that huge game. He wanted to be a part of it but the coaches wanted to nurse his hamstring. That's a desire to play through pain (Derrick Mason anybody) that I do not consider a cancer. If Boldin is sent to a team with SB aspirations and gets a nice contract here and is expected to be the #1 guy for the next few years I hardly see him complaining as much if at all.

[Slick]

[quote name='flynismo' post='146040' date='Jan 28 2009, 02:33 PM']lmao![/quote]

while funny, i hope you pointing out the irony in what i said i hope it does not foreshadow anything for either teams future

edit: sorry for the double post.

[Bigbell]

they wont let him leave, everyone knows in Az that he is a vital part in their offense, even Fitz. They are 40 MIL under the cap, they will give him money that we cant. He will stay in AZ.

[flynismo]

[quote name='Bigbell' post='146046' date='Jan 28 2009, 02:38 PM']they wont let him leave, everyone knows in Az that he is a vital part in their offense, even Fitz. They are 40 MIL under the cap, they will give him money that we cant. He will stay in AZ.[/quote]

I'm not convinced of that. It's not like they said, "This is Anquan Boldin... if you think we'll let him leave you're idiots!"

I would be pretty concerned if our staff made that kind of comment about Ray Ray. If the team wants you there without reservation, they'll make it clear, rather than give a cryptic response like that.

[Rocky Mountain Raven]

Whether we get him or not, I don't think Boldin will play as a Cardinal next season.

[RavensIQ]

[quote name='Bigbell' post='146046' date='Jan 28 2009, 02:38 PM']they wont let him leave, everyone knows in Az that he is a vital part in their offense, even Fitz. They are 40 MIL under the cap, they will give him money that we cant. He will stay in AZ.[/quote]


They also have 20+ free agents. Maybe more.

P.S. Including Karlos Dansby, Bertrand Berry, and Kurt Warner...

[Slick]

[quote name='RavensIQ' post='146062' date='Jan 28 2009, 02:55 PM']They also have 20+ free agents. Maybe more.

P.S. Including Karlos Dansby, Bertrand Berry, and Kurt Warner...[/quote]

well, that being said it should be entirely possible to get Boldin over here.

[pick-ups]

He still has 2 years left on his contract and whether he likes it or not he`s staying in AZ.

[Slick]

[quote name='pick-ups' post='146184' date='Jan 28 2009, 04:24 PM']He still has 2 years left on his contract and whether he likes it or not he`s staying in AZ.[/quote]

lol not if there's a trade available that suits their interests.

[TSizzle00]

Bolden is not that old he has plenty of good years left!

[pick-ups]

Well considering the Cowboys gave up a 1st,3rd,and 5th for Roy Williams then I guess anythings possible.

My point mainly is that Boldin holds none of the Cards(no pun intended)...

The Eagles have the 21st and 28th(Panthers)picks in next years draft and I would like to see them give up a least one of them to try and get him.

He could be the difference in McNabb finally getting his ring.

Cards are going to keep the price real high and unless the Cowboys or Rai-duhs are callin then most other logical owners probably wont bite.

[RavensIQ]

[quote name='pick-ups' post='146223' date='Jan 28 2009, 04:34 PM']Well considering the Cowboys gave up a 1st,3rd,and 5th for Roy Williams then I guess anythings possible.

My point mainly is that Boldin holds none of the Cards(no pun intended)...

The Eagles have the 21st and 28th(Panthers)picks in next years draft and I would like to see them give up a least one of them to try and get him.

He could be the difference in McNabb finally getting his ring.

Cards are going to keep the price real high and unless the Cowboys or Rai-duhs are callin then most other logical owners probably wont bite.[/quote]


One minute you say he definitely not leaving Arizona and the next minute you think a trade to the Eagles is possible...Riiiiigggghhhhttttttt

I hate to break the news to ya bud, but um..McNabb might not be an Eagle next year. So unless Kobb can be the next big thing, who exactly is gonna throw the ball to Boldin? Dawkins? You know when you and pals were booing him and calling for his head? And when your HC benched him after the Baltimore Ravens owned him...yeah, well um...that's not going over well with ya boy Donovan.

[LongLiveBillick]

Its ALL hype.

[pick-ups]

I`ve never dogged McNabb and he has done a lot for the Eagles considering the shotty talent he has had around him throughout most of his career.

Lurie has already said he wants McNabb back plus he`s still under contract and wants to have it restuctured.

The reason he was benched was very poor play calling(Reids fault).WAAAAAY to much passing.

Kolb is still a project in my mind and if I remember correctly the score was 10-7 at half(with the Eagles playing poorly)then McNabb was benched and that was all she wrote.(congrats on your franchises 1st ever win against a lost Eagles team.

You should worry more about how your teams going to beat the Steelers(3-0)vs the Ravens because I remember Philly completely embarrassing the Steelers 15-6(9 sacks)earlier this season.Only game this year the Steelers did`nt score a TD.

About Boldin who knows I`m just saying w/ 2 years left on his contract and the Cards who will want a ton for him does`nt bode well for his departure..

[theFRANCHISE]

[quote name='Rocky Mountain Raven' post='146034' date='Jan 28 2009, 02:26 PM']Whoah, I wouldnt classify him with trash like T.O or Ocho. An argument with a coach is one thing, being a clown on the field is another.[/quote]
Agreed. I don't know how Boldin can be considered a cancer, considering how he hadn't had any sort of confrontation or meltdown until this season -- SIX YEARS into his career. If someone as low-key as Anquan Boldin has an issue, it's probably a legitimate gripe.

Same with guys like Marvin Harrison, Torry Holt, Reggie Wayne, Derrick Mason, or any other receiver that has accolades but has mostly remained quiet. If they speak up, there's probably something to it.

[theFRANCHISE]

[quote name='pick-ups' post='146262' date='Jan 28 2009, 04:53 PM']You should worry more about how your teams going to beat the Steelers(3-0)vs the Ravens because I remember Philly completely embarrassing the Steelers 15-6(9 sacks)earlier this season.Only game this year the Steelers did`nt score a TD.[/quote]
I don't know how you can say the Eagles "embarassed" the Steelers, even with their 9 sacks, when they only won by 9 points...I'm just sayin'.

[POE]

[quote name='RavensIQ' post='145993' date='Jan 28 2009, 01:12 PM']And the year where he had 101 receptions for 1300+ yards and 8 touchdowns? Oh yeah that was the year b4 Larry Fitzgerald was even in the NFL Maybe, just maybe, Anquan Boldin is the reason for Larry Fitzgerald's success? Hmmmm? I wonder...[/quote]

In the NFL it is what you do now, and right now he is the 2nd WR on the depth chart and is extremely overshadowed by Fitz.

All I am saying is that from a management side you are not going to throw out a #1 draft pick for anybodys #2 WR period. I am not questioning his upside and skills but RIGHT NOW he is overshadowed by possibly the best WR in the game and doesn't deserve 1st round trade value.