We're Interested In Boldin...

[Ravens52]

[url="http://www.baltimoresun.com/sports/football/bal-sp.superbowl28jan28,0,7089743.story"]http://www.baltimoresun.com/sports/footbal...0,7089743.story[/url]


Oh man, would I love my non favorite Raven player to come here..

Let's make this happen

[RoflDogs]

Eh, it would be great, but he is already pretty old

[#1 D]

[quote name='RoflDogs' post='145951' date='Jan 28 2009, 11:11 AM']Eh, it would be great, but he is already pretty old[/quote]


Yeah, im worried bout that too...but hey, look at randy moss, terrell owens, and some other recievers....they're well in their 30's, and they still play at a high level. I'd much rather go with fitzgerald, but boldin is a beast, too.

[PuRock]

Considering that there aren't many FA WRs on the market this year. And Boldin would require a trade. If we do want him, we'd better be ready to put up an arm and and a leg for him. Because there are going to be many teams wanting an established WR.

I'm thinking something like 3 to 4 draft picks. Something that resembles the Roy Williams deal. If Arizona doesn't get something like that. Then.....No Deal, Howie!

[Purple Punishment]

hes not coming here, we cant give up picks that we desperately need to use

[3Zach21]

Yeah, there is plenty other options other than Boldin. Lets get a young WR and develop the Flacco/Young WR combo. That way, the young WR can learn these years from DMaSE.

[Canes21]

i dont want boldin. it would cost us too much to get him first of all. and he is a little older and does have some injury problems. but more importantly im not sure how guys like mason would feel about us making a move like that.

[RedFire]

[quote name='Canes21' post='145966' date='Jan 28 2009, 11:55 AM']i dont want boldin. it would cost us too much to get him first of all. and he is a little older and does have some injury problems. but more importantly im not sure how guys like mason would feel about us making a move like that.[/quote]




*mason's thoughts*
hey...i won't have 2 guys covering me any more. i can make one guys miss and get to the endzone to help us put up points
*mason's thoughts*

[theFRANCHISE]

I think the article was written just because there's nothing else to write about the Ravens, to be honest. I don't think there's as active of an interest in Boldin as the article is making it seem, as there's been no substantial news that has made the Ravens' interest clear.

With that said, I still hope we get Boldin since he's one of my favorite players in the league, and I think he would be worth giving up a first-round draft pick, even though Ozzie Newsome doesn't like giving up draft picks, especially too many high draft selections. But we'll see after the Super Bowl what happens.

[Ravens52]

[quote name='RedFire' post='145967' date='Jan 28 2009, 11:59 AM']

*mason's thoughts*
hey...i won't have 2 guys covering me any more. i can make one guys miss and get to the endzone to help us put up points
*mason's thoughts*[/quote]

Then assuming we resign a couple of our free agents.. we're in line for a Super Bowl.. hopefully..

Flacco to Mason, Clayton, Heap, and Boldin? Insane.

[heapitup247]

[quote name='Purple Punishment' post='145963' date='Jan 28 2009, 11:49 AM']hes not coming here, we cant give up picks that we desperately need to use[/quote]

We need a corner and a WR. If we trade the first for Boldin we take the guesswork out of drafting a guy and get boldin. Then we take a corner with the second rounder. Seems ok to me.

[Shawn`]

I wouldn't give up picks for him.

Picks are our future, drafting prospects to help mould our offense, think about it. This is a new,young offense that isn't going to give up the oppurtunity to bring more new athletes into it for an veteran receiver.

[RavensIQ]

If we can make it to the AFC Championship this year [i]without[/i] Anquan Boldin, what could we do next year [i]with[/i] Anquan Boldin?

Boldin isn't just a great WR when he gets his hands on the ball, but he might be just as good when the ball's no where near him.

The Ravens run the rock. Anquan Boldin is a stud, physical, badass, run blocking wide receiver...
The Ravens run the rock. Anquan Boldin makes defenses think twice about bringing 8 men in the box...
The Ravens run the rock. Anquan Boldin on a short slant or screen pass is essentially an extended hand off...

He has the 'hit you in the mouth and make you land on your back, give you a hand up, and then knock you back down' mentality about him. He will talk smack and let you know he's about to beat you up. Then while he's beating you up he will continue to talk smack just to remind you that there is nothing you can do about it. Then after he's done beating you up, he will continue to talk smack just to let you know that he means what he says and still, there is nothing you can do about it so you better prepare yourself for another beat down on the very next play, and the play after that, and the play after that, and the play after that, and the play after that...and that when the games finally over, he better not catch you alone in the locker room.

Not to mention Boldin has hands of glue and pads of steel because obviously after he catches the ball he doesn't go down right away. In fact half the time he doesn't even go down at all. Everything about Anquan Boldin screams Baltimore Ravens. He is a bruiser and he isn't afraid to let you know it. Purple and Black is only suiting...

[RedFire]

is boldin not a free agent?
i thought all we had to do was offer him enough money to sign with us.
why would we be trading draft picks?

[RedFire]

[quote name='RavensIQ' post='145980' date='Jan 28 2009, 12:37 PM']If we can make it to the AFC Championship this year [i]without[/i] Anquan Boldin, what could we do next year [i]with[/i] Anquan Boldin?

Boldin isn't just a great WR when he gets his hands on the ball, but he might be just as good when the ball's no where near him.

The Ravens run the rock. Anquan Boldin is a stud, physical, badass, run blocking wide receiver...
The Ravens run the rock. Anquan Boldin makes defenses think twice about bringing 8 men in the box...
The Ravens run the rock. Anquan Boldin on a short slant or screen pass is essentially an extended hand off...

He has the 'hit you in the mouth and make you land on your back, give you a hand up, and then knock you back down' mentality about him. He will talk smack and let you know he's about to beat you up. Then while he's beating you up he will continue to talk smack just to remind you that there is nothing you can do about it. Then after he's done beating you up, he will continue to talk smack just to let you know that he means what he says and still, there is nothing you can do about it so you better prepare yourself for another beat down on the very next play, and the play after that, and the play after that, and the play after that, and the play after that...and that when the games finally over, he better not catch you alone in the locker room.

Not to mention Boldin has hands of glue and pads of steel because obviously after he catches the ball he doesn't go down right away. In fact half the time he doesn't even go down at all. Everything about Anquan Boldin screams Baltimore Ravens. He is a bruiser and he isn't afraid to let you know. Purple and black is only suiting.[/quote]


you got me hyped up!!! good post homie!

[PuRock]

[quote name='RedFire' post='145981' date='Jan 28 2009, 12:38 PM']is boldin not a free agent?
i thought all we had to do was offer him enough money to sign with us.
why would we be trading draft picks?[/quote]

He still has one year left on his contract. He is not a free agent until next season. But since he probably won't be getting Fitzgerald money, he'll be asking for a trade again.

So you would need to trade for him, then give him a lot of money to sign an extension, so he doesn't leave next year. It's the exact same predicament as the Roy Williams deal was.

[flynismo]

Why is everyone hating on Boldin all of the sudden? Just a couple months ago that's all anyone could talk about, "Let's trade for Boldin."

If it were up to me, I would give ARI a 1, 3 and Demetrius Williams, then laugh all the way to the Super Bowl for the next 5 years.

[RavensIQ]

Arizona should give us Boldin and their 1st round draft pick for Terrel Suggs.

But I really don't want to see Suggs go so...I'll settle for giving up a chance at drafting a 1st round bust (haha Ozzie drafting a 1st round bust is like Superman dying in an airplane crash. STOP!...think about it.) in a trade for a pro bowl wr, in his prime, any day of the week, any week of the month, any month of the year, any year of any time, any place, any where. Anquan Boldin is a beast. Flacco was the missing engine to our offense, Cam Cameron was the missing conductor, and Anquan Boldin is the little train that could. See what I'm saying here?

[POE]

If we or any other team did trade for this guy there is no way that they give a #1 draft pick for this guy. He is not the #1 receiver on his own team, he was 16th overall this season in receiving yards and honestly the looks that he does get is all because of Fitzgerald. I am in no way, shape or form taking away from his ability to be the guy on a team like ours because he is physical, fast and plays all angles of the game but from a head office stand point there is no way he deserves big time trade value like Roy Williams earned.

He gets a 2nd & 4th and maybe a player at best and IMO would be well worth it. We could then trade out of the 1st, if our guy didn't fall to us, for extra picks in the second and grab a WR and CB for the future. I really think this off-season is critical in full-filling Coach Harbaughs words in making this team the next Dynasty and there are a multitude of ways that we can get this accomplished, but it starts from the inside out.

I have faith that our front office will get the necessary things done and our coaching staff/players will do the rest. I love this organization..GO RAVENS!!

[RavensIQ]

[quote name='POE' post='145991' date='Jan 28 2009, 01:07 PM']If we or any other team did trade for this guy there is no way that they give a #1 draft pick for this guy. He is not the #1 receiver on his own team, he was 16th overall this season in receiving yards and honestly the looks that he does get is all because of Fitzgerald. I am in no way, shape or form taking away from his ability to be the guy on a team like ours because he is physical, fast and plays all angles of the game but from a head office stand point there is no way he deserves big time trade value like Roy Williams earned.

He gets a 2nd & 4th and maybe a player at best and IMO would be well worth it. We could then trade out of the 1st, if our guy didn't fall to us, for extra picks in the second and grab a WR and CB for the future. I really think this off-season is critical in full-filling Coach Harbaughs words in making this team the next Dynasty and there are a multitude of ways that we can get this accomplished, but it starts from the inside out.

I have faith that our front office will get the necessary things done and our coaching staff/players will do the rest. I love this organization..GO RAVENS!![/quote]

And the year where he had 101 receptions for 1300+ yards and 8 touchdowns? Oh yeah that was the year b4 Larry Fitzgerald was even in the NFL Maybe, just maybe, Anquan Boldin is the reason for Larry Fitzgerald's success? Hmmmm? I wonder...

[Bullrush]

Just speculation. There's nothing in that article that would suggest that we're interested in working out a trade with the Cards. I'm sure Ozzie would want him here but if it's going to take a 1st round pick and a big contract then it's not going to happen. We already gave up a couple high draft picks for Willis, and our team is getting older.

As for Boldins' age i'm not really worried about it. He's not somebody who relies on his speed, explosiveness or anything like that. Neither does Derrick Mason or Marvin Harrison. Those guys will be effective even in their mid 30s.

[RavensIQ]

[quote name='Bullrush' post='145994' date='Jan 28 2009, 01:17 PM']Neither does Derrick Mason or Marvin Harrison. Those guys will be effective even in their mid 30s.[/quote]

They're already there. Mason is 35 and Harrison is 36.

[SuggsNotDrugs]

Anyone saying they don't want Boldin obviously doesn't know who Anquan Boldin is. Anyone saying we can't give up valuable draft picks for Boldin, obviously doesn't know what Boldin is worth.

In 12 games this year he totaled 89 rec. for 1038 yards and 11 TDs

He's 28. Which means he is in his prime

Boldin is the most well rounded WR in the game. He's big, fast, physical, like TO without as much ego and attitude. He's a monster when he needs to block, and not only that, but he's good for running trick plays.

9 attempts 67 yards rushing

These numbers come from a system where he was only the #2 option. If he's #1 his numbers will improve, and if they don't, Mason's will for sure. Boldin too old? Mason was older than 28 when we signed him, and how did that work out? We can't give up a high draft pick? Why not, we'd be using it on a WR anyway. Boldin still has 5+ years in the league EASY. We can still draft WRs, but Boldin is a guaranteed solid WR, one of the tops in the league. How many draft picks wind up being busts anyway? We acquire Boldin and we have one of the best recieving corps in the league, especially if Heap can get healthy and active.

In the first 9 games of the season he played (missed 2 bc of the nasty injury) he averaged:
8.1rec 97.6 yards 1.2 TDs per game

after that, Boldin started getting the double coverage over Fitz, so his numbers dropped and Fitz's soared. That's how it would be with Mason, give/take. One is almost guaranteed to have a big game each week.

Oh and not to mention the man had his face crushed, a concussion, jaw wired shut, and despite that was on the field two weeks later. Boldin is a man, he's THE man!

[Slick]

my idea to being Boldin in here would have to be this:

the most I would trade for Q would be CMac, and 1st, 4th, and 5th round picks

id try to save that 1st rounder to pick up a CB, but we might be able to pick up some decent talent at CB in the 2nd round as well.

if they dont go for it then id try the same strategy for Nnamdi Asomougha (sp?) and use a 1st or 2nd rounder on a wr. if we dont have to trade for Nnamdi (and we manage to get him) then Id say trade Cmac for maybe a nickle/dime back thats worth a lot less money to free up cap space.


one way or another, I think CMac has done enough for the Ravens in his career, and id much rather se him go than any of our 3 LBs, although Bart Scott would also be a valuable trade option. Out of the three LBs we have, Suggs and Ray should be our priority in retaining.

[flynismo]

[quote name='POE' post='145991' date='Jan 28 2009, 01:07 PM']If we or any other team did trade for this guy there is no way that they give a #1 draft pick for this guy. He is not the #1 receiver on his own team, he was 16th overall this season in receiving yards and honestly the looks that he does get is all because of Fitzgerald. I am in no way, shape or form taking away from his ability to be the guy on a team like ours because he is physical, fast and plays all angles of the game but from a head office stand point there is no way he deserves big time trade value like Roy Williams earned.

He gets a 2nd & 4th and maybe a player at best and IMO would be well worth it. We could then trade out of the 1st, if our guy didn't fall to us, for extra picks in the second and grab a WR and CB for the future. I really think this off-season is critical in full-filling Coach Harbaughs words in making this team the next Dynasty and there are a multitude of ways that we can get this accomplished, but it starts from the inside out.

I have faith that our front office will get the necessary things done and our coaching staff/players will do the rest. I love this organization..GO RAVENS!![/quote]


Ok, let me get this straight...

- Boldin is only productive because Fitz is there (Nevermind the insane rookie year he had and off to another hot start before getting hurt in year two)

And

- Roy Williams earned the high trade value, while Boldin hasn't?

Umm, riiigght...

Truth is, Boldin was a stud before anyone knew who Fitz was. Boldin is also a big reason that Fitz has the success he does. Boldin is the best wr on that team, and very possibly the league.

And I tell ya what, Arizona could EASILY point to that Roy Williams deal and say that if Roy is worth a 1, 3 and 5, then Boldin should command two 1st round picks. You're dreaming if you think we can get Boldin for a 2 and 4.

[20ravens52]

It'd cost us too much of our future to get him here, and it is not worth it. I'd rather keep our draft picks, although Boldin is a really good reciever.

[Purple Punishment]

very true seeing as Williams was very ineffective for the Cowboys after the trade. The compare Q's performance to Williams and I can see that they would ask for that much. Boldin is a very physical receiver. He gets open and he catches the damn ball. We could use him here in Purple. I think he would be the piece of the puzzle that we need.

[RavensIQ]

After Malcolm Jenkins and Vontae Davis are taken off the board the cornerbacks remaining kinda drop off. For the most part there are a handful of CBs to choose from in the 2nd, that could have gone in the 1st, but didn't.

It would be like Moss and T.O. being taken off the board and having to choose between Derrek Mason, Houshmandzadeh, Laveranues Coles, DeSean Jackson, Braylon Edwards, Reggie Wayne.

All very capable players but none of them as good as Moss or T.O. Dropoff in terms of production but there will still be some very doable potential left bcuz the cb pool is so deep this year.

So if Jenkins and Davis are gone by the time we select we can afford to wait until the later rounds to address the CB need. Same with WR once Crabtree and Maclin are gone. So trading our 1st round pick for a sure thing in Anquan Boldin is not a bad idea AT ALL.

[flynismo]

[quote name='SuggsNotDrugs' post='145997' date='Jan 28 2009, 01:36 PM']Anyone saying they don't want Boldin obviously doesn't know who Anquan Boldin is. Anyone saying we can't give up valuable draft picks for Boldin, obviously doesn't know what Boldin is worth.

In 12 games this year he totaled 89 rec. for 1038 yards and 11 TDs

He's 28. Which means he is in his prime

Boldin is the most well rounded WR in the game. He's big, fast, physical, like TO without as much ego and attitude. He's a monster when he needs to block, and not only that, but he's good for running trick plays.

9 attempts 67 yards rushing

These numbers come from a system where he was only the #2 option. If he's #1 his numbers will improve, and if they don't, Mason's will for sure. Boldin too old? Mason was older than 28 when we signed him, and how did that work out? We can't give up a high draft pick? Why not, we'd be using it on a WR anyway. Boldin still has 5+ years in the league EASY. We can still draft WRs, but Boldin is a guaranteed solid WR, one of the tops in the league. How many draft picks wind up being busts anyway? We acquire Boldin and we have one of the best recieving corps in the league, especially if Heap can get healthy and active.

In the first 9 games of the season he played (missed 2 bc of the nasty injury) he averaged:
8.1rec 97.6 yards 1.2 TDs per game

after that, Boldin started getting the double coverage over Fitz, so his numbers dropped and Fitz's soared. That's how it would be with Mason, give/take. One is almost guaranteed to have a big game each week.

Oh and not to mention the man had his face crushed, a concussion, jaw wired shut, and despite that was on the field two weeks later. Boldin is a man, he's THE man![/quote]

Thanks, I didn't feel like having to say all that. Anybody who doesn't want Boldin here because they're worried about our 1st round pick needs to go follow tennis or golf or something.

[Slick]

[quote name='flynismo' post='146001' date='Jan 28 2009, 01:49 PM']Ok, let me get this straight...

- Boldin is only productive because Fitz is there (Nevermind the insane rookie year he had and off to another hot start before getting hurt in year two)

And

- Roy Williams earned the high trade value, while Boldin hasn't?

Umm, riiigght...

Truth is, Boldin was a stud before anyone knew who Fitz was. Boldin is also a big reason that Fitz has the success he does. Boldin is the best wr on that team, and very possibly the league.

And I tell ya what, Arizona could EASILY point to that Roy Williams deal and say that if Roy is worth a 1, 3 and 5, then Boldin should command two 1st round picks. You're dreaming if you think we can get Boldin for a 2 and 4.[/quote]

thats why you throw CMac in with the trade. He was one of the few vets who didn't "buy-in" to Harbaugh's system and ever since Barylon Edwards burned the heck out of him, he hasn't played nearly as well (lingering knee problems which is why he was put on IR this year). Chris is still a top-tier cornerback, but he's getting old and his knees are failing him and he's too expensive to keep. So throw him in alongside a 1st and 4th rounder and the trade looks a little sexier to the Cards. They could use the vetean leadership to make Antrel Rolle one of the elite CBs in the league.