Chris Mcalister

[ravensgirlx88]

I've heard numerous reports that C-mac already has one foot out the door. Thinking back to the benching incident earlier in the season am I the only one that thinks C-mac didn't get along well with his new coaches?

Could you IMAGINE how well our season would have went if he hadn't been injured? Sure we'll be saving 8 mil. a year. But at the same time, who's going to step up in the CB position? Rolle is good, but his numerous injurys cause concern. He's also not getting any younger. Washington is a decent CB but I feel like there were plays he could have made this year that he did not.

[PuRock]

[quote name='ravensgirlx88' post='142949' date='Jan 21 2009, 09:27 AM']I've heard numerous reports that C-mac already has one foot out the door. Thinking back to the benching incident earlier in the season am I the only one that thinks C-mac didn't get along well with his new coaches?

Could you IMAGINE how well our season would have went if he hadn't been injured? Sure we'll be saving 8 mil. a year. But at the same time, who's going to step up in the CB position? Rolle is good, but his numerous injurys cause concern. He's also not getting any younger. Washington is a decent CB but I feel like there were plays he could have made this year that he did not.[/quote]

That's how we sensed it when he didn't play that one game. But I think the injury was worse at that point of time, than anyone expected. McAlister was probably just frustrated by it, and he wanted to show he can still play. In the end, he was place on IR. I'm sure he felt Disappointed about the season.

[RavenFan626]

I think C-Mac can still play well. I just don't think it would be a good idea to keep him if he doesn't want to buy into the new system. We have seen on other teams how a player that doesn't want to be around can hurt a team.

[funky141]

I think you need to draft CB in the draft to replace and add depth at that position. C-Mack was okay but never was a shut down corner.

[McBoller]

[quote name='funky141' post='142955' date='Jan 21 2009, 09:35 AM']I think you need to draft CB in the draft to replace and add depth at that position. C-Mack was okay but never was a shut down corner.[/quote]
werd...

[raven46]

doesn't seem like he wants to be a Ravens anymore.

[PIG 20]

I think they give him another shot next year. Let him come back healthy for once and see what he can do. But I also think we need to draft a top CB as well.

[ravensgirlx88]

[quote name='PIG 20' post='142958' date='Jan 21 2009, 09:39 AM']I think they give him another shot next year. Let him come back healthy for once and see what he can do. But I also think we need to draft a top CB as well.[/quote]

There's NO WAY we'll have that kind of free money. It's become pretty apparent that Chris won't be here next year, Im just really concerned about who will step up in his place. We def. need a BIG,tall shutdown corner.

[KEHeartbreak]

Can't they attempt to restructure his large contract, maybe incentive based if he plays X number of games or something? If no luck there, then yeah, cut him.

[ReedIsJesus]

is he a free agent? Unless he is a free agent it would be stupid to release him. It wouldn't give us any extra cap room because he is still under contract as far as I know.

[Tighthead420]

I think he is gone. Mainly because of the cap room with regards to the linebacker question. Free up some monies to keep the core of backers we have now.

[ravensgirlx88]

[quote name='ReedIsJesus' post='142967' date='Jan 21 2009, 10:45 AM'][b]is he a free agent?[/b] Unless he is a free agent it would be stupid to release him. It wouldn't give us any extra cap room because he is still under contract as far as I know.[/quote]


He is.

[ravensgirlx88]

[quote name='Tighthead420' post='142968' date='Jan 21 2009, 10:45 AM']I think he is gone. Mainly because of the cap room with regards to the linebacker question. Free up some monies to keep the core of backers we have now.[/quote]


I agree! And I can't express this enough... GIVE JIM LEOHNARD SOME $$$$$$

[ReedIsJesus]

It's too bad because when healthy and when he's not being stupid he is an unbelievable corner, but if he won't buy into the system then he's definitely gone.

[PIG 20]

[quote name='ravensgirlx88' post='142960' date='Jan 21 2009, 09:41 AM']There's NO WAY we'll have that kind of free money. It's become pretty apparent that Chris won't be here next year, Im just really concerned about who will step up in his place. We def. need a BIG,tall shutdown corner.[/quote]

So we take a 10 million dollar cap hit to release him? The cap is tight enough as it is. I'm not sure if we can afford that sort of hit.

[PIG 20]

[quote name='ravensgirlx88' post='142970' date='Jan 21 2009, 09:49 AM']He is.[/quote]

Really? Because I remember him signing a 55 million dollar 7 year contract in 2005. That wouldn't make him a free agent.

[ravensgirlx88]

I just highly doubt he'll be here. I think it has more to do with the fact that he didn't get along well with the coaches. Or maybe he just wasen't happy being benched when it probablly was the best thing for him.

[bce086]

Between his injuries, salary cap, and coaching incidents/attitude...

I really cant see him here next year as much as id really like to. He is an excellent coverage cb and brings a lot to the table.

[bce086]

[quote name='ravensgirlx88' post='142983' date='Jan 21 2009, 10:01 AM']I just highly doubt he'll be here. I think it has more to do with the fact that he didn't get along well with the coaches. Or maybe he just wasen't happy being benched when it probablly was the best thing for him.[/quote]


I agree, and he is definitely one of those "ego" players. It isn't necessarily a bad thing, but he gets upset when he doesn't get playing time. So benching im sure pissed him off as he feels he is the best corner on the tam (which he probably is).

[PIG 20]

[quote name='bce086' post='142985' date='Jan 21 2009, 10:09 AM']I agree, and he is definitely one of those "ego" players. It isn't necessarily a bad thing, but he gets upset when he doesn't get playing time. So benching im sure pissed him off as he feels he is the best corner on the tam (which he probably is).[/quote]

You guys act like he was benched for his attitude. I've never seen someone benched for his attitude and then have season ending knee surgery that we all knew that he needed. I've heard reports that his knee would be the size of a softball after gameday. He was benched because he couldn't get the job done.

I'm sure he but heads with the coaching staff at times. I promise you that Cmac wasn't the only player who but heads with this coaching staff at the beginning of this season. Suggs and Willis both made comments yet everyone overlooks their statements because they were playing all season and now wants them back on the team.

Cmac has always had sort of an "attitude" but you never hear him bashing the coaching staff publicly. Even after the benching and surgery, he still wouldn't give any details as to the stuff that happened behind the scenes. His main comment was always, "I'm not the coach".

I say he comes back next season. There is no way the team is going to take a 10 million dollar cap hit to release him. The only way he is on another team next season is through a trade. But another team will have to give up quite a bit for Cmac not to mention picking up the balance of that 55 million dollar contract. I don't see it happening.

[ReedIsJesus]

[url="http://profootball.scout.com/a.z?s=127&p=9&c=12&yr=2009&nid=83&lnid=83&rc=16&cti=b"]http://profootball.scout.com/a.z?s=127&...rc=16&cti=b[/url]

Thats the list of all our free agents. McCalister is not on the list, why take the cap hit? If he can adopt Harbaugh's system there is no reason why we shouldn't keep him. How pissed do you think he was watching his team go to the AFC championship without him? He'll adapt.

[ravensgirlx88]

[quote name='ReedIsJesus' post='142994' date='Jan 21 2009, 10:27 AM'][url="http://profootball.scout.com/a.z?s=127&p=9&c=12&yr=2009&nid=83&lnid=83&rc=16&cti=b"]http://profootball.scout.com/a.z?s=127&...rc=16&cti=b[/url]

Thats the list of all our free agents. McCalister is not on the list, why take the cap hit? If he can adopt Harbaugh's system there is no reason why we shouldn't keep him. How pissed do you think he was watching his team go to the AFC championship without him? He'll adapt.[/quote]

I'd LOVE to see McAliser stay!!!! I just have this strong feeling he wont.

[bce086]

[quote name='PIG 20' post='142992' date='Jan 21 2009, 10:26 AM']You guys act like he was benched for his attitude. I've never seen someone benched for his attitude and then have season ending knee surgery that we all knew that he needed. I've heard reports that his knee would be the size of a softball after gameday. He was benched because he couldn't get the job done.

I'm sure he but heads with the coaching staff at times. I promise you that Cmac wasn't the only player who but heads with this coaching staff at the beginning of this season. Suggs and Willis both made comments yet everyone overlooks their statements because they were playing all season and now wants them back on the team.[/quote]


Dont get me wrong I want C-Mac to stay. But its a completely different story with him. He has the highest salary on the field.

But as for the "ego" i was talking about, Im not so much referring to mouthing off to the coaches. It's more through his actions. C-Mac wants to be the best player on the field, everygame. This is why he will often jump routes to early, wanting to make the big pick 6.

Also, when he thought he was allowed to be the only player on the team not wearing a suit on game day?....

Overlooking Willis? He has been based by 85% of the people on this board lol.....
And I cant agree with everyting Suggs says all the time, but he sure does make up for it with his play.

[ravensgirlx88]

I've meant Chris in person he's a really down to earth guy and gave autographs for about 15 min. in a grocrey store parking lot while smiling and talking to fans..and he may have an "ego" in the sense that he wants to be the best on the feild, but is that so wrong?

[PuRock]

When our CB core is devastated by injury two years in a row. It's time to change something up. Get some fresh legs in there. Washington was a good pick up. Walker not so much.

We need to key in on doing something to our CB core. I do think C-Mac will be released. Just due to the fact that he hasn't played more than 8 games in either of the last two seasons. And he will be 32 come next season. It's the Facts of Life (well, mostly football).

[PIG 20]

[quote name='bce086' post='142996' date='Jan 21 2009, 10:31 AM']Dont get me wrong I want C-Mac to stay. But its a completely different story with him. He has the highest salary on the field.

But as for the "ego" i was talking about, Im not so much referring to mouthing off to the coaches. It's more through his actions. C-Mac wants to be the best player on the field, everygame. This is why he will often jump routes to early, wanting to make the big pick 6.

Also, when he thought he was allowed to be the only player on the team not wearing a suit on game day?....

Overlooking Willis? He has been based by 85% of the people on this board lol.....
And I cant agree with everyting Suggs says all the time, but he sure does make up for it with his play.[/quote]

My point! He has the highest salary but dumping him would make it even more difficult to sign guys that we need to bring back.

You don't dump a guy when he has that sort of impact to your cap.

And trust me, I've seen a lot of Willis love since that Cowboys game. Everyone wanted him gone and then as soon as he started playing well, everyone loves him again.

Cmac was one of the best "shut down" corners in the league for years. Not to mention that he already had 2 or 3 turnovers by the time he was put on IR. I believe he's still one of the best and if the knee is in good shape for the first time since 2006, I think he'll play exceptionally well. You guys act like Cmac is a horrible CB?

You say Suggs backs his mouth up with his play? So that makes it ok? But not ok for Cmac who has been one of the best corners in the league for years? He hasn't been healthy since the early part of 2007. He was playing on a bum knee. We'll see. He'll be back.

[ravensgirlx88]

[quote name='PIG 20' post='143003' date='Jan 21 2009, 10:41 AM']My point! He has the highest salary but dumping him would make it even more difficult to sign guys that we need to bring back.

You don't dump a guy when he has that sort of impact to your cap.

And trust me, I've seen a lot of Willis love since that Cowboys game. Everyone wanted him gone and then as soon as he started playing well, everyone loves him again.

Cmac was one of the best "shut down" corners in the league for years. [b]Not to mention that he already had 2 or 3 turnovers by the time he was put on IR.[/b] I believe he's still one of the best and if the knee is in good shape for the first time since 2006, I think he'll play exceptionally well. You guys act like Cmac is a horrible CB?

You say Suggs backs his mouth up with his play? So that makes it ok? But not ok for Cmac who has been one of the best corners in the league for years? He hasn't been healthy since the early part of 2007. He was playing on a bum knee. We'll see. He'll be back.[/quote]


You make a good point here, he was great EVEN WITH A KNEE INJURY in those first couple games we played. Although Peyton picked on him in the Colts game because he knew about his knee injury. The fact is that Chris was willing to play thru that injury, which is more then I can say for Rolle. To me that's the Ravens way. I dont think Walker has been a horriable CB either, he's great for now as secondary. He has pulled thru in quite a few key games for us this season.

[Loyola Punker]

[quote name='ReedIsJesus' post='142994' date='Jan 21 2009, 10:27 AM'][url="http://profootball.scout.com/a.z?s=127&p=9&c=12&yr=2009&nid=83&lnid=83&rc=16&cti=b"]http://profootball.scout.com/a.z?s=127&...rc=16&cti=b[/url]

Thats the list of all our free agents. McCalister is not on the list, [b]why take the cap hit[/b]? If he can adopt Harbaugh's system there is no reason why we shouldn't keep him. How pissed do you think he was watching his team go to the AFC championship without him? He'll adapt.[/quote]
He is not a FA, but if we cut him, we'll only take a minor cap hit, and it'll free up $8mil to use somewhere else -- I say cut our losses and move on -- we did OK w/o him this year, and we can find better CBs than ivy/stone/etc to fill in for him... if he doesn't want to be part of a top defense, then let him go pout somewhere else

see this article:
[url="http://www.baltimoresun.com/sports/football/bal-sp.ravens20jan20002018,0,801483.story?page=2"]http://www.baltimoresun.com/sports/footbal...83.story?page=2[/url]
[quote]There's only one starter who is expected to be cut - cornerback Chris McAlister. After his benching (and subsequent move to injured reserve), McAlister has not been seen in the locker room or at games. It's a divorce that would be welcomed by both sides.

Releasing McAlister would free up $8million in cap space.[/quote]

[PIG 20]

[quote name='Loyola Punker' post='143008' date='Jan 21 2009, 10:45 AM']He is not a FA, but if we cut him, we'll only take a minor cap hit, and it'll free up $8mil to use somewhere else -- I say cut our losses and move on -- we did OK w/o him this year, and we can find better CBs than ivy/stone/etc to fill in for him... if he doesn't want to be part of a top defense, then let him go pout somewhere else

see this article:
[url="http://www.baltimoresun.com/sports/football/bal-sp.ravens20jan20002018,0,801483.story?page=2"]http://www.baltimoresun.com/sports/footbal...83.story?page=2[/url][/quote]

With having to resign Suggs, Lewis, Bart, and Jason Brown there is no room for any "cap hits" right now.

I see a trade being the only way he goes elsewhere.

Most guys on IR don't spend a lot of time with the team. Not to mention that he's probably rehabbing out of state.

[Loyola Punker]

[quote name='PIG 20' post='143009' date='Jan 21 2009, 10:49 AM']With having to resign Suggs, Lewis, Bart, and Jason Brown there is no room for any "cap hits" right now.

I see a trade being the only way he goes elsewhere.

Most guys on IR don't spend a lot of time with the team. Not to mention that he's probably rehabbing out of state.[/quote]

the salary cap is a really complicated matter, and if you understand it better than I, awesome... but I bet you don't.

For you to repeatedly state that keeping mcalister has a smaller impact on the salary cap vice releasing him (Where we know we will save $8mil on the cap) is quite bold. How much of his salary goes toward the cap in 2009-2010? Anyone know? Whatever it is, I seriously doubt it is worth keeping him on the team and taking up a roster slot. He needs to go.

I'm not sure we have ANY shot at keeping all three LBs if we keep McAlister (just based off his projected 2009-2010 salary [but i'm not sure how much of that counts towards the cap])-- but if we release him, we at least have another $8mil to use towards those three LBs you mention plus brown, heap, stover, leonhard, etc.