Chris Mcalister As Safety...

[BloodRaven]

He might be big but hes not the best tackler and hes not durable. Those hits will send him straight to IR and us down 10million in wasted cap space. Not a good idea.

[1/28/01]

Mcalister as SS ! - hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!!!!!

One little hit and dudes done for his career (he'll be 32 and has missed game after season after game). I think hes overrated, prone to injury, crys like a baby and costs us WAY TOO MUCH $ every year!!!!!!!!

Later bro!

[Ozzsome]

He could do well at safety but we have 3 good Safetys and one of them is the best in the NFL

[tweety]

[quote name='justifythegame' post='142717' date='Jan 20 2009, 09:47 PM']1) the ravens are loaded at safety, it is the one position that doesn't need to be addressed.[/quote]
You guys are repeating yourselves, I have stated Leonard and Landry are free too shop. Leaving us with Nakumura and Landry.
[quote name='justifythegame' post='142717' date='Jan 20 2009, 09:47 PM']2) mac is a shutdown corner when healthy, there are only a handful of players like that in the nfl, why move him from the position[/quote]
I explained this too because of age and a knee injury he won't have the same agility of years ago. But he can cover any Wide out up top and what TEs are going to perform with 6'1" safety with his boost and speed.
[quote name='justifythegame' post='142717' date='Jan 20 2009, 09:47 PM']3) the ravens have had corner issues for the past 2 seasons, why would you take c-mac out of the lineup, that will put us back in the same position as the last 2 years[/quote]
I addressed this too, Rolle and Washington are both capable starters. Get a 1st round corner to play nickel or use Ivy in the dime and you have the best secondary core second to the Eagles.
[quote name='justifythegame' post='142717' date='Jan 20 2009, 09:47 PM']4) fabian washington is overrated by many Ravens fans. Just because he celebrates after a play does not undo the mistakes he also makes. No one expects him to be an elite corner, just a better corner than samari, and that is good enough as long as we have a #1 corner playing. He is not a shutdown corner, he has trouble staying on his man, and lacks in size to finish a tackle so safeties have to finish it for him. With that said, Washington is still an EXCELLENT corner, and will only continue to improve as a Raven, but he is not a #1 option @ corner for a defense like the ravens. He will be a fantastic #2 corner and will play nicely subbing in for samari and taking his spot after samari retires.[/quote]
Are you confusing Washington with Walker? Washington is not known to showboat. To say Washington is over-rated I feel no reason to even explain how he isn't. I only see his tackling he needs to improve on.
[quote name='justifythegame' post='142717' date='Jan 20 2009, 09:47 PM']Last but not least, people like to talk crap about c-mac and how he will be cut blah blah. Most likely Samari will retire this year or next year. Fabian Washington will be the next man up to fill his role. C-Mac will be back, and will play some more seasons. A corner will be drafted in the coming drafts to step up for mac one day, but that person is definately not going to fill the role as a rookie. Which is why c-mac will stay and will still play CB.[/quote]
If C Mac doesn't take a pay cut and isn't healthy enough to play corner he will be cut. This is the best proposal for him to stay on the team. He can start picking up weight during the off-season.

[RavenFan626]

[quote name='tweety' post='143515' date='Jan 22 2009, 01:43 AM']You guys are repeating yourselves, I have stated Leonard and Landry are free too shop. Leaving us with Nakumura and Landry.

I explained this too because of age and a knee injury he won't have the same agility of years ago. But he can cover any Wide out up top and what TEs are going to perform with 6'1" safety with his boost and speed.

I addressed this too, Rolle and Washington are both capable starters. Get a 1st round corner to play nickel or use Ivy in the dime and you have the best secondary core second to the Eagles.

Are you confusing Washington with Walker? Washington is not known to showboat. To say Washington is over-rated I feel no reason to even explain how he isn't. I only see his tackling he needs to improve on.

If C Mac doesn't take a pay cut and isn't healthy enough to play corner he will be cut. This is the best proposal for him to stay on the team. He can start picking up weight during the off-season.[/quote]



Are you still trying to convince people the best thing to do is move C-Mac to SS?

1st off I don't think he will do it. Why would he make a move to S when he know he can still play CB.

If he moves to a safety position it would be FS. That's where his cover skills would be a benefit. He would probably do good there. I don't feel the same if he tried SS.

Then there's the money issue. He gets paid too much to play him at SS. He won't want to take a pay cut.

IF C-Mac is on the team his best place is corner where he can have the biggest impact and help one of our weakest positions.

[Troy SmiTH Xx]

Seriously, if he was converted to safety; I'd put him as our 4th String safety. I'd put Jason Brown at safety before I'd put C-Mac there!

[Iodine]

We already have Fast Eddie, Leongod, and landry(i am assumeing both will resign), and zibo was still a rookie

I still want to keep him at CB unless he really wants to leave then he is :pity:

[RavensIQ]

You guys are clueless. Chris McAlister would become a top Safety in this league if he converted today. Top 10 IMO. He is fast, strong, physical, makes plays on the ball, isn't afraid to lay the wood, he has range and he's just an overall beast. What makes anyone think he'd be a better CB than Safety? If you say his knee injuries would make it hard for him then how is covering WRs every play any better? If he moved to safety we would instantly have the best Safety duo in the league. He's a shutdown CB (or at least he was). Playing CB is waaaayyy more difficult than play safety. You guys just don't see the big picture.

Landry might not play in 09 bcuz his spinal chord injury is more serious then we all thought, Jim Loenhard is a free agent and can go to whatever team he chooses. We already have to worry about Signing Ray Lewis, Bart Scott, Jason Brown, Terrel Suggs, our draft picks our ristricted free agents our exclusive rights free agents and now you're telling me we have to find away to squeeze Jim Leonhard into the mix after his Value increases from shopping the market? Do you seriously think Rex Ryan is not going to try and bring Jimmy boy over to the dark side? He's the one who brought him to the Ravens what makes you think he's not going to try to bring him to New York?

That leaves, Nakamura, and Zibi.

C'mac at safety would be 100x the better option than 2 sophmore football players. He would double as an instant backup at CB in case someone went down. Zibi and Nakamura could then easily start at safety if something like that were to happen.

So where are the downsides? Plz explain them (you probably already did but chances are I didn't read past the 1st line bcuz I didn't want to torture myself with nonsense).

If you think he can play CB then why not Safety? Put it to ya this way...do you think Bob Sanders could be a shutdown CB? Do you think Jim Leonhard could do a better job then C'Mac at corner?

[SuggsNotDrugs]

maybe we can switch him over the offense as a WR.........

i'm not being seirous but, it would make more sense than to be a safety. He's speedy, tall, good hands, and we need WRs. i'm all for cutting him, but i'm just saying WR over S

[Troy SmiTH Xx]

[quote name='SuggsNotDrugs' post='144164' date='Jan 22 2009, 11:47 PM']maybe we can switch him over the offense as a WR.........

i'm not being seirous but, it would make more sense than to be a safety. He's speedy, tall, good hands, and we need WRs. i'm all for cutting him, but i'm just saying WR over S[/quote]

orr..........

We can just keep him at CB. Anyone? Anyone? *Looking for high five* Anyone?

[WACKO4FLACC0]

[quote name='tweety' post='142551' date='Jan 20 2009, 07:53 PM']We all know McCalister can hit. Why can't we pull a Rod Woodson and convert him to Safety? Just like Gary Baxter was a better Safety than corner I then McCalister would be a better safety.[/quote]
Your probably right but I think with such low depth at the CB position you need to keep him there

[tweety]

We have 7 corners (8-9 most likely after the draft), looks like high depth to me.

CMac
Rolle
Ivy
Martin
Oglesby
Walker
Washington

We have 3 safeties under contract (not including special teamer Darren Stone), which position looks like we need more depth.

[RavensIQ]

Chris McAlsiter probably will not be around next year. I'm just saying that he would make for a great safety in the NFL if he ever converted. He's always talked about finishing his career as a safety for the Ravens. It's actually something he wants to do. The thing is...once he realizes he's not going to get paid $10 million from any team in the NFL, maybe next year he'll take a paycut and convert to safety bcuz of his coverage issues over the last few seasons (biting double moves, getting burned, knee troubles). Allowing him to take a pay cut and to finish his career as a Raven would be great for both sides, and maybe the safety offer will be the extra umpff that makes the deal work.

Just saying.. C'Mac wants to finish his career as a safety like Rod Woodson did. Woodson will go down as one of the greatest safeties to have ever played the game (and he converted from being a shutdown cornerback).

[Ed_Reed20]

McAlister has the size and still has enough speed to play safety but the team has a future-Hall of Famer at one spot and two proven players at the other. He doesn't get along with Harbaugh and I don't know if he really works hard in the off-season. I think his time in Baltimore is up.

[RavensIQ]

[quote name='Ed_Reed20' post='144803' date='Jan 24 2009, 04:05 PM']McAlister has the size and still has enough speed to play safety but the team has a future-Hall of Famer at one spot and two proven players at the other. He doesn't get along with Harbaugh and I don't know if he really works hard in the off-season. I think his time in Baltimore is up.[/quote]


Me too. I don't think he'll be around next year either. I'm just saying the idea of converting C'Mac to Safety isn't a bad idea. I'm telling you, he'd be a top 10 safety in this league.

[SuggsNotDrugs]

[quote name='tweety' post='144755' date='Jan 24 2009, 01:04 PM']We have 7 corners (8-9 most likely after the draft), looks like high depth to me.

CMac
Rolle
Ivy
Martin
Oglesby
Walker
Washington

We have 3 safeties under contract (not including special teamer Darren Stone), which position looks like we need more depth.[/quote]

There's no doubt we need CBs, we don't need safeties. We have a lot of really average CBs, and stellar safeties, quality over quantity.

[20ReedsAll]

[quote name='Ed_Reed20' post='144803' date='Jan 24 2009, 04:05 PM']McAlister has the size and still has enough speed to play safety but the team has a future-Hall of Famer at one spot and two proven players at the other. He doesn't get along with Harbaugh and I don't know if he really works hard in the off-season. I think his time in Baltimore is up.[/quote]

There's no way McAlister would be physical enough to be a good SS. Last two years, he's been put on IR due to his nagging knee injury while playing CB! Playing SS would put him on IR in like 2 games lol! A lot of the successful CB to safety converts are Free Safeties because they can use their coverage skills to become nice ball hawks. Converting to a SS and to consistantly have to help against the run would be too much to ask for of a ball hawking CB like McAlister. Only way he would be successful as a safety is if he's a FS; that's not gonna happen because of that one guy we already have: Ed Reezy!!