WR that FO can target via a trade

[Davesta]

12 minutes ago, rossihunter2 said:

no way the titans get rid of tajae sharpe, jordan matthews isn't coming to baltimore, why would we want quinton patton or rashad greene or justin hardy?

which leaves marquise lee who isnt really an upgrade on anything we have on our offense - and im not sure why the jags would want to get rid of a receiver who finally broke out last year - they have allen robinson and hurns, westbrook is a wild card and there are no guarantees he's a good player but it took the falcons more than 3 receivers last year to be a successful offense why would the jags wilfully get rid of marquise lee?

Because they just paid hurns, they're going to pay AR15 (one of the cooler nicknames in the NFL), and they just draft Westbrook. Move marqise and get something now. 

[allblackraven]

Our (Ravens fans) obsession with wide receivers is a real thing.

[PurpleHorseman]

8 minutes ago, allblackraven said:

Our (Ravens fans) obsession with wide receivers is a real thing.

Of course, people obsess over things people don't have. Observe the excitement over finally drafting an explosive edge rusher. Ok multiply that by 1000 and that explains the obsession over a legit WR

[PurpleHorseman]

29 minutes ago, rossihunter2 said:

no way the titans get rid of tajae sharpe, jordan matthews isn't coming to baltimore, why would we want quinton patton or rashad greene or justin hardy?

which leaves marquise lee who isnt really an upgrade on anything we have on our offense - and im not sure why the jags would want to get rid of a receiver who finally broke out last year - they have allen robinson and hurns, westbrook is a wild card and there are no guarantees he's a good player but it took the falcons more than 3 receivers last year to be a successful offense why would the jags wilfully get rid of marquise lee?

Marqise lee is a huge upgrade over anything we have. His routes are awesome. He fell behind very skilled WRs in their own right while injured. But really came on last year even with bad QB play. Westbrook is very good. Many feel better than John Ross. If he didn't have any drama he would of went in round1. If he shows well One of Hurns lee will be traded. Jags will be getting that cheap production from him. Don't think jags want to pay 3 WRs over$10mil per.

[BmoreBird22]

26 minutes ago, Davesta said:

Because they just paid hurns, they're going to pay AR15 (one of the cooler nicknames in the NFL), and they just draft Westbrook. Move marqise and get something now. 

They're more likely to trade Hurns than Lee.

[JoeyFlex5]

52 minutes ago, rossihunter2 said:

no way the titans get rid of tajae sharpe, jordan matthews isn't coming to baltimore, why would we want quinton patton or rashad greene or justin hardy?

which leaves marquise lee who isnt really an upgrade on anything we have on our offense - and im not sure why the jags would want to get rid of a receiver who finally broke out last year - they have allen robinson and hurns, westbrook is a wild card and there are no guarantees he's a good player but it took the falcons more than 3 receivers last year to be a successful offense why would the jags wilfully get rid of marquise lee?

I would take Justin hardy in a heartbeat. I was shocked to find out he was only 5'10" because he looked like he was playing at 6'2" on film the way he was catching in coverage. 

He was a good prospect coming out, really wasn't much to dislike about his tape. As a slot receiver for us he would get force fed the ball and get this... he would actually catch it lol. He's got great hands and I haven't seen him in the pros but he was a nifty route runner at ECU. He would probably be the third best receiver on the ravens, which is more an indictment on the ravens than anything, but an upgrade is an upgrade. 

[allblackraven]

22 minutes ago, PurpleHorseman said:

Of course, people obsess over things people don't have. Observe the excitement over finally drafting an explosive edge rusher. Ok multiply that by 1000 and that explains the obsession over a legit WR

But we have 2 guys, Wallace and Perriman, legit enough that we can't in all seriousness expect Ozzie to start asking around about some players mentioned in the thread. They would just cost more than Ozzie would ever give, considering it most likely would require good future pick and serious $$. 

[jazz1988]

20 minutes ago, rossihunter2 said:

no way the titans get rid of tajae sharpe, jordan matthews isn't coming to baltimore, why would we want quinton patton or rashad greene or justin hardy?

which leaves marquise lee who isnt really an upgrade on anything we have on our offense - and im not sure why the jags would want to get rid of a receiver who finally broke out last year - they have allen robinson and hurns, westbrook is a wild card and there are no guarantees he's a good player but it took the falcons more than 3 receivers last year to be a successful offense why would the jags wilfully get rid of marquise lee?

I just it's think it's possible depending on how well Sharpe  preforms in training camp and his chance of getting more playing time this season may have went down with The Titans drafting Corey Davis and Taywan Taylor. The Titans were willing to trade their second round pick Dorial Green Beckham after he had 549 receiving yards and 4 touch downs in his rookie season.Sharpe could end up having the same fate  but of course may no happen so it's may be more wishful thinking on my part. Quinton Patton was drafted by The 49ers back when Greg Roman was the offensive coordinator so he knows Patton more than anyone on The Ravens coaching staff  and he someone I liked during the 2013 draft.

Rashad Greene is another receiver  I liked coming out of college and he has punt return experience  but missed most of  2016 season due to a season ending  injury. Before Marqise Lee jump on the scene and was  productive it was reported that Greene was the front runner to beat him out for number 3 spot. Justin Hardy hasn't been highly productive for  The Falcons but he has made plays . With The New Falcon offensive coordinator and the fact that The Falcons kept  Taylor Gabriel and signed veteran receiver Andre Roberts it's possible The Falcons would be ok with trading him especialy if the plan  is to re-signed Gabriel. I believe someone already touched on Marqise Lee situations so I don't need to say anything further about that.

[jazz1988]

40 minutes ago, BmoreBird22 said:

They're more likely to trade Hurns than Lee.

But I think Allen Hurns cap hit is like 7 million if they do. I don't know The Jags cap situation at this moment  so not sure if they have enough cap space to trade or even cut Allen Hurns.

[allblackraven]

1 minute ago, jazz1988 said:

But I think Allen Hurns cap hit is like 7 million if they do. I don't know The Jags cap situation at this moment  so not sure if they have enough cap space to trade or even cut Allen Hurns.

Yeah, trading Hurns would leave them with $7M in dead money

[RaineV1]

3 hours ago, allblackraven said:

Our (Ravens fans) obsession with wide receivers is a real thing.

Largely because of how rarely we've had good ones. And having just two legit, NFL receivers on a team (including one that could hit the old age wall soon enough) isn't exactly impressive. Like our CB situation for years, one injury ruins the team.

Not to mention the number of lost playoff games due to bad receivers dropping passes. That alone can make fans focus on receivers.

Edited 14 hours ago by RaineV1

[PurpleHorseman]

3 hours ago, allblackraven said:

But we have 2 guys, Wallace and Perriman, legit enough that we can't in all seriousness expect Ozzie to start asking around about some players mentioned in the thread. They would just cost more than Ozzie would ever give, considering it most likely would require good future pick and serious $$. 

Come on who are you know kidding?? Wallace is a 31 yr old one trick pony. And Perrimans routes are terrible!! He doesn't play to his timed speed not even close. There is no suddenness, disguise and craft to his routes. He can make some acrobatic catches. But he doesn't show the suddenness or craft in his routes to ever be a consistent high volume playmaker. Like somebody that can catch 10-12 to grind through a tough game.

If we have that much confidence in our defense do you really want to be 8 games into the season and realize the offense sucks?? Get to the playoffs and lose because nobody on offense can consistently make plays yet again? Like in 2006 and 2008 where defense played very well the run game was working but our playmakers were no match for the oppositions playmakers. A round 2 pick really isn't a lot to trade away. Ravens have not done so well drafting receivers and using its round2 picks. It wouldn't hurt to trade for a Sammy Watkins And trying to short change the position isn't cutting it. Trying to trade a round7 pick for a Chris givens isn't doing jack for the offense. Of course somebody significant like Sammy Watkins and Marqise Lee are going to cost something to obtain them.

[polynesian15]

8 hours ago, JoeyFlex5 said:

I would take Justin hardy in a heartbeat. I was shocked to find out he was only 5'10" because he looked like he was playing at 6'2" on film the way he was catching in coverage. 

He was a good prospect coming out, really wasn't much to dislike about his tape. As a slot receiver for us he would get force fed the ball and get this... he would actually catch it lol. He's got great hands and I haven't seen him in the pros but he was a nifty route runner at ECU. He would probably be the third best receiver on the ravens, which is more an indictment on the ravens than anything, but an upgrade is an upgrade. 

One word: Camp! Another word tho: health! 

[JoeyFlex5]

1 hour ago, polynesian15 said:

One word: Camp! Another word tho: health! 

He's got a true injury bug. He doesn't have multiple freak injuries, he just has one small nagging injury after another. He just isn't built for this

[polynesian15]

13 minutes ago, JoeyFlex5 said:

He's got a true injury bug. He doesn't have multiple freak injuries, he just has one small nagging injury after another. He just isn't built for this

I know, it sucks. He showed potential during those few flashes though. I would think this season is his last chance to make an impression.
Fingers crossed for Mike, go out there and represent #15 (my lucky number)!

[rossihunter2]

1 hour ago, polynesian15 said:

I know, it sucks. He showed potential during those few flashes though. I would think this season is his last chance to make an impression.
Fingers crossed for Mike, go out there and represent #15 (my lucky number)!

if he manages a full training camp and a whole preseason i think he makes the team but if he picks up another injury he's likely gone for good

[Halshayeji]

13 hours ago, PurpleHorseman said:

Marqise lee is a huge upgrade over anything we have. His routes are awesome. He fell behind very skilled WRs in their own right while injured. But really came on last year even with bad QB play. Westbrook is very good. Many feel better than John Ross. If he didn't have any drama he would of went in round1. If he shows well One of Hurns lee will be traded. Jags will be getting that cheap production from him. Don't think jags want to pay 3 WRs over$10mil per.

What do you think it would it take to get Lee? I'd be very intrigued, I liked this guy all the way back to his college days

[PurpleHorseman]

4 hours ago, Halshayeji said:

What do you think it would it take to get Lee? I'd be very intrigued, I liked this guy all the way back to his college days

Very tough to say. A player that definitely showed well even with bad QB play and a terrible offensive line that limited routes. He could maybe  cost as much as Sammy Watkins. Would be ideal to get him for a round3 but could cost as much as a round2 pick. He showed very well especially considering the offensive line and QB. 

[jazz1988]

15 minutes ago, PurpleHorseman said:

Very tough to say. A player that definitely showed well even with bad QB play and a terrible offensive line that limited routes. He could maybe  cost as much as Sammy Watkins. Would be ideal to get him for a round3 but could cost as much as a round2 pick. He showed very well especially considering the offensive line and QB. 

I wouldn't go no higher than a 4th  round pick for Lee. He may have dealt with injuries like Sammy Watkins but I think Watkins showed more on the field and was 4th overall pick in the first round.

[PurpleHorseman]

4 minutes ago, jazz1988 said:

I wouldn't go no higher than a 4th  round pick for Lee. He may have dealt with injuries like Sammy Watkins but I think Watkins showed more on the field and was 4th overall pick in the first round.

Expecting something for nothing is a reason the ravens don't have any playmakers

[berad]

6 minutes ago, PurpleHorseman said:

Expecting something for nothing is a reason the ravens don't have any playmakers

They'll probably keep trying to find them in the draft, they're very reluctant to trade away picks. They're all about value.

Good or bad, that's what they'll do. That's probably what they'll continue to do unless Ozzie retires and DeCosta becomes Mr. Wheel-and-Deal.

 

edit - they're much more likely to hunt for cuts and/or unheralded guys, hoping for Aiken 2.0

Edited 23 minutes ago by berad

[jazz1988]

6 minutes ago, PurpleHorseman said:

Expecting something for nothing is a reason the ravens don't have any playmakers

I just think it's super risky to give up 3rd round pick for a receiver that had one good healthy season. I definitely wouldn't give up  a second round for Lee at all.