WR that FO can target via a trade

[BmoreBird22]

12 hours ago, rossihunter2 said:

surely not given that this is a 1 year thing... no team is giving up a 1st round pick for only 1 year of an injury prone guy...

btw this is not me advocating us picking him up in a trade

A team would give it up easy in a sign and trade. Plus, the Pats gave up a first for one year of Cooks.

[RAYvenFan20]

Thoughts on maclin?

[Halshayeji]

16 hours ago, BOLDnPurPnBlacK said:

There are reports they might actually cut him.

Id at the very least wait to see how hes doing medically. Thats not a contract you want to take on AND give up a pick for if hes not going to be 100%.

Though definitely a player to keep an eye on. Wishful thinking, but id love him here.

Yes it would. Zero of it is guaranteed. Wave a conditional 6th or 7th at them and rework his deal making it more team friendly like Wallace was. Decker has little to no leverage here so we can snatch him on the cheap

[RayRayRaven]

9 hours ago, HomeoftheBRAVENS said:

Its not a trade,but I wouldnt mind it if we picked up Michael Floyd or Josh Gordon after hes released by the browns.

we definiatly need to roll them dice

[Halshayeji]

10 hours ago, Boddiebroadus said:

What about martavis Bryant? Isn't this the second time he's coming back from a suspension? The steelers did draft JuJu which made no sense unless he's there to replace someone. Pretty sure Bryant is in the last year of his contract too. 

4th round pick?

The steelers are not handing us anyone. Regardless of what we pay. And as far as Bryant, I wouldn't give anything more than a 7th for him. If I had to bet money, I'd say he fails another drug test because he can't stay away from weeeeeeeeed!!!

[Halshayeji]

6 minutes ago, RAYvenFan20 said:

Thoughts on maclin?

Solid guy. Too rich of a contract...

[Halshayeji]

8 hours ago, HomeoftheBRAVENS said:

 

The bills gave up their 2012 first rounder and their 2013 first and fourth round pick to trade up and get him.Youre not getting him for anything less than a first and I think hes worthy of our first.

I agree, they won't let him go for less than a second and maybe mid round at least but I'd hope it's a sign and trade if we even trade for him. I would lose it if we can't keep him after we invest so much in a guy. But imagine how this team would look if we pull that off. Oh my my my ..........

[Italian Raven]

Idk if someone already mentioned him. He doesn't fit the category as a pure trade target, as he's an unsigned FA, but Vincent Jackson wouldn't be the worst thing happening to us I guess.

Not a solution by any means but due to his last injury and age I think we may add him at a relatively low cost. Hard to find a big, possession receiver who can help moving the chains at this point.

[rmw10]

10 minutes ago, Italian Raven said:

Idk if someone already mentioned him. He doesn't fit the category as a pure trade target, as he's an unsigned FA, but Vincent Jackson wouldn't be the worst thing happening to us I guess.

Not a solution by any means but due to his last injury and age I think we may add him at a relatively low cost. Hard to find a big, possession receiver who can help moving the chains at this point.

I'd rather just roll with the younger guys and hope they work out.  VJax has missed more games due to injury than he's played the last 2 seasons.  When he has played, there's been 0 impact.

Edited yesterday at 12:13 PM by rmw10

[Italian Raven]

26 minutes ago, rmw10 said:

I'd rather just roll with the younger guys and hope they work out.  VJax has missed more games due to injury than he's played the last 2 seasons.  When he has played, there's been 0 impact.

It's all true. I was just throwing an idea since we definitely need to add competition there. But sure, if we were to spend 3M on either Mangold or Vjax I'd take the former, no doubt.

[JoeyFlex5]

3 hours ago, Halshayeji said:

The steelers are not handing us anyone. Regardless of what we pay. And as far as Bryant, I wouldn't give anything more than a 7th for him. If I had to bet money, I'd say he fails another drug test because he can't stay away from weeeeeeeeed!!!

 

[BOLDnPurPnBlacK]

3 hours ago, Halshayeji said:

Yes it would. Zero of it is guaranteed. Wave a conditional 6th or 7th at them and rework his deal making it more team friendly like Wallace was. Decker has little to no leverage here so we can snatch him on the cheap

The fact that nothing is guaranteed in this scenario doesnt mean much, bc youre giving up a draft pick. Trading a pick just to cut a player, and saying great - well at least there wasnt any guaranteed money - is still a big loss.

Hes not going to rework his deal to make it more team friendly. Hes got one last shot at a big FA deal and the cost for very good WR's has eclipsed $10m/yr. His consistent production puts him above guys like Britt, Stills, etc... who signed for $8m+/yr (which is more than his current deal has left) and hes closer to Desean Jackson territory which is above the $10m/yr threshold. 

Whether with the Jets or a team that trades for him hes going to play out the last 2 years of his deal and test the market where he can make a lot more guaranteed money, more per year and pick where he wants to go. The Ravens would have literally 0 leverage to get him to sign an extension unless it was on par with what he thinks his market value will be in FA.

[rossihunter2]

9 hours ago, Tru11 said:

they could also do what the pats did with butler by tagging him and have him look for a team that is willing to trade for him and sign him to what he is looking for.

pats didnt tag butler - he was tendered because he was a restricted free agent because he'd been an undrafted guy

[ellicottraven]

18 hours ago, gtalk12 said:

 

Maxx and Carl Davis stay, everyone else I am cool with.

 

We invested in Maxx a 2nd round, his second year was spent on the sidelines bc of an injury and had a nice first year considering Flacco was out.

How is Correa any different than Maxx given he is a second round pick as well and is coming into his sophomore season?

[Halshayeji]

2 hours ago, JoeyFlex5 said:

 

Looooooool

[Halshayeji]

2 hours ago, BOLDnPurPnBlacK said:

The fact that nothing is guaranteed in this scenario doesnt mean much, bc youre giving up a draft pick. Trading a pick just to cut a player, and saying great - well at least there wasnt any guaranteed money - is still a big loss.

Hes not going to rework his deal to make it more team friendly. Hes got one last shot at a big FA deal and the cost for very good WR's has eclipsed $10m/yr. His consistent production puts him above guys like Britt, Stills, etc... who signed for $8m+/yr (which is more than his current deal has left) and hes closer to Desean Jackson territory which is above the $10m/yr threshold. 

Whether with the Jets or a team that trades for him hes going to play out the last 2 years of his deal and test the market where he can make a lot more guaranteed money, more per year and pick where he wants to go. The Ravens would have literally 0 leverage to get him to sign an extension unless it was on par with what he thinks his market value will be in FA.

You guys are putting way too much value on a 6th or 7th round pick. Those guys usually don't make it past training camp so that doesn't concern me at all. And yes we would have leverage because we can give him money up front and restructure the deal. If he falls out and we release him next year then he probably gets something close to the minimum. We don't have all the leverage but he has none at all. 

[PurpleHorseman]

21 hours ago, arnie_uk said:

Wonder would Sammy Watkins be available for a 3rd or 4th

If bills ever decided to trade Watkins I'm sure every wr needy team would bid. He would cost a round2 pick at least!! Many teams will feel he has a lot of potential. He has shown a lot when he played. And many feel he is held back by Tyron Taylor's sandlot football style. He is a massively skilled receiver. Look what Hogan could do with a pro QB in a real NFL offense!! He was a No.4 WR there and an afterthought. Look what the USC WR got on the open market. And that is because many feel he has great potential in a real offense and was being held back there. I woud pay a round2 pick and some change for Sammy Watkins in .04 seconds!!

Allen Hurns and Marqise Lee are good options as well. I would probably prefer Marqise as he is faster and shown the best recently. When the Jags see how good Westbrook is it could be very open to trading Marqise or Hurns. Westbrook could be the steal of the draft. I think he is better than John Ross. He and Tim Williams should compete for steal of the draft. Could be best players at their positions. Anyways Watkins and Jags WR's are definitely our best options. Nobody else has high end NO.2 maybe even NO.1 WRs at their disposable. I really like Boldin but not interested in bringing him back at 37 yrs old. Victor hasn't done anything in like a decade or whatever. Fact that fans even talking about them dudes shows how little confidence there is in our WRs. BTW Correa and Max have very little trade value.

[Adreme]

21 hours ago, JoeyFlex5 said:

I'd give picks for him. It's worth the risk. But I wouldn't want a one year prove it deal, at least get him for 3 years so the dealt pick can be worthwhile. Hopefully he stays healthy. But it's basically selling out hoping we get one last shot at a super bowl. With the defense we have in place, we don't need to do any major rebuilding, just need a C, RT, and WR and we could absolutely contend every year. With our defense it feels like it would be worth it to sell out for another shot.

Why do people say the Ravens need a Center?  If the Ravens didn't think they already have an upgrade on the roster they would not have traded Zuttah.  It's not like they had no choice but to trade him.  The cap gains were negligible so the only reason is they think they already have someone better.

[JoeyFlex5]

2 minutes ago, Adreme said:

Why do people say the Ravens need a Center?  If the Ravens didn't think they already have an upgrade on the roster they would not have traded Zuttah.  It's not like they had no choice but to trade him.  The cap gains were negligible so the only reason is they think they already have someone better.

I just don't see that guy though. We once thought we had our future starting center in house... once... 

[Tru11]

3 hours ago, rossihunter2 said:

pats didnt tag butler - he was tendered because he was a restricted free agent because he'd been an undrafted guy

true my bad.

does not change much though.

they can tag and trade him next season or work on a new deal .

his health will pretty much decide what they will do and what his price will be.

Edited yesterday at 06:14 PM by Tru11

[IceUpSon89]

Keenan Allen 
Jeremy maclin
Allen hurns
Jaelen Strong
DGB
Jermaine Kearse 
Tavon austin
Randall Cobb

here's a list of guys I can see there teams being willing to pass on wether it's for contract size, injury history or just not being as effective as expected except for hurns. I just think the jags would let him go b/c of Westbrook 

[Adreme]

1 hour ago, JoeyFlex5 said:

I just don't see that guy though. We once thought we had our future starting center in house... once... 

I am not sure who they see either but the Ravens traditionally don't make moves like that until they are very confident the new player is better than the old.  

[Davesta]

I forgot about jaelen strong. They got a lot of WRs there with nuk, fuller, brAxton. Hopefully one of them gets cut

[PurpleHorseman]

3 hours ago, Davesta said:

I forgot about jaelen strong. They got a lot of WRs there with nuk, fuller, brAxton. Hopefully one of them gets cut

Strong has shown very little. Grabbing cut WRs compounds the problem. We need to pony up for a WR in his prime with legit potential. WRs get cut for a reason. That extends the problem and next thing you know it's misdeason again and you realize offense sucks and is holding team back.

[frank cambra]

How unlikely would it be for Miami to trade Jarvis Landry?? The guy has pretty much everything we need in a wideout except size.

[LosT_in_TranSlatioN]

59 minutes ago, frank cambra said:

How unlikely would it be for Miami to trade Jarvis Landry?? The guy has pretty much everything we need in a wideout except size.

I'm more likely to win the lottery whilst getting struck by lighting during a clear day while being out on a date with Kate Upton. The dolphins aren't dumb enough to trade him sadly

[purpletide]

2 minutes ago, LosT_in_TranSlatioN said:

I'm more likely to win the lottery whilst getting struck by lighting during a clear day while being out on a date with Kate Upton. The dolphins aren't dumb enough to trade him sadly

Psh. Do that every Tuesday.

[jazz1988]

Receivers I think The Ravens can target in a trade is Marqise Lee, Jordan Matthews,Tajae Sharpe,Quinton Patton,Rashad Greene,  and Justin Hardy,

[rossihunter2]

19 minutes ago, LosT_in_TranSlatioN said:

I'm more likely to win the lottery whilst getting struck by lighting during a clear day while being out on a date with Kate Upton. The dolphins aren't dumb enough to trade him sadly

don't be so hard on yourself - some people get struck by lightning

[rossihunter2]

Just now, jazz1988 said:

Receivers I think The Ravens can target in a trade is Marqise Lee, Jordan Matthews,Tajae Sharpe,Quinton Patton,Rashad Greene,  and Justin Hardy,

no way the titans get rid of tajae sharpe, jordan matthews isn't coming to baltimore, why would we want quinton patton or rashad greene or justin hardy?

which leaves marquise lee who isnt really an upgrade on anything we have on our offense - and im not sure why the jags would want to get rid of a receiver who finally broke out last year - they have allen robinson and hurns, westbrook is a wild card and there are no guarantees he's a good player but it took the falcons more than 3 receivers last year to be a successful offense why would the jags wilfully get rid of marquise lee?