[News] Eisenberg: Ravens Draft Illustrates Major Philosophical Shift

[RavensBaltimore]

  3 hours ago, RavensBaltimore said:

No one is saying Flacco won by himself, but he absolutely carried this team to the SB win. The defense made some clutch plays, but they also got torched in the SB, and the mile high miracle wouldn't have been necessary if our ST didn't give up 2 return tds. Flacco was great in every playoff game and was clutch in the 4th qtr. I dont think any other qb has ever won a SB in a postseason where their team gave up more than 30 twice. He torched Denver with the deep ball and carved up the Pats when they played their safeties deep. He had the best statistical postseason ever, and he did it without a dominant player like Moss, Harrison, or Gronk. You can always pick out clutch plays by a defense in any SB run ever. If Joe didn't carry this team to the SB in 2012, then no qb in the history of the game has ever carried their team to the SB. No qb has ever been better or more important to their team's success in a postseaon as Flacco in 2012.

Hilarious,  Flacco did what?  Are you kidding me?  April fool day has come and gone, LOL!

If it's so funny then name 1 qb in the history of the game that had a better statistical postseason then Joe in 2012. Name one thing in my post that was false. The fact that you think it's a joke shows you either didn't watch the SB run or you are completely unaware of the several postseason records that Joe broke or tied.

[Go NFL]

Draft did not fall Ravens way. They were obviously looking to get either a top tier WR, RB and OT and for whatever reason the draft did not fall their way and the Ravens had to adjust to plan B which consisted of drafting defensive guys heavily. This might be a scenario of too many eggs in a basket. You can't expect rookies to make a significant impact year one. The defense was already good last year and you can make the argument the offense is worse off since losing key players. Wallace is not a number #1 WR and if he goes down the offense will go down hill in a hurry. Perriman has not shown anything to make us think he is ready for the spot light. I ask myself a very valid question - why can't the Ravens develop WRs. We always seem to have to sign a player past his prime. There is no one out there the Ravens will sign either as a WR or an OT that is an impact player. I don't buy this non sense that the Ravens are still looking. Looking for a washed up player maybe. The RBs on this team don't scare anyone. We will soon find out if the brain trust was right.

[The Beak]

34 minutes ago, Go NFL said:

Draft did not fall Ravens way. They were obviously looking to get either a top tier WR, RB and OT and for whatever reason the draft did not fall their way and the Ravens had to adjust to plan B which consisted of drafting defensive guys heavily. This might be a scenario of too many eggs in a basket. You can't expect rookies to make a significant impact year one. The defense was already good last year and you can make the argument the offense is worse off since losing key players. Wallace is not a number #1 WR and if he goes down the offense will go down hill in a hurry. Perriman has not shown anything to make us think he is ready for the spot light. I ask myself a very valid question - why can't the Ravens develop WRs. We always seem to have to sign a player past his prime. There is no one out there the Ravens will sign either as a WR or an OT that is an impact player. I don't buy this non sense that the Ravens are still looking. Looking for a washed up player maybe. The RBs on this team don't scare anyone. We will soon find out if the brain trust was right.

And you know this How? Did you help form their Big Board? The draft , especially the 2nd round could be something we look back on as one of the great days in recent draft History... Bowser was looked on as late 1st rounder Wormley was too, I still cant believe that T- Will fell to us in the 3rd , ( He may be the best pure pass rusher in the draft) Yeah call me a Homer , a Optimist, or crazy, but I believe we had a hell of draft and I for one cant wait to see these cats on the field!!!

Edited Monday at 02:51 AM by The Beak

[ellicottraven]

Yes it does sound familiar and about time too. I agree with the philosophical shift in strategy. They tried to be an overpowering offense that puts up 30 + points every game and failed miserably to accomplish that. 4 yrs of playoff drought is enough already. The one time they did make the playoff they had a running game. The old Ravens D did have an assist from the offense in the form of a great and strong running game. We need to see if the 2017 Ravens have that with the addition of Woodhead. I doubt that they compete with the rest of the division in the running game and that is really a shame. There is a chance that Dixon could be that 20+ carry back for us, but he's lost for the first quarter of the season. D is going to be really strong, but offense without the run game is a worry because I don't believe Flacco's passing is going to get it done. In fact, we need to limit his passing only to play action passing and make sure he passes less than 50% of the snaps.

[frozen joe flacco fan]

Finally the light bulb came on.  You can not build a team around "Jump Ball Joe" he is far too inaccurate and simple minded to carry a NFL team.  With this draft, I'm so happy, the Ravens are getting back to their hard-hitting defensive ways  and not a continuation of Flacco's inept dog and pony show . 

Your wisdom is surpassed only by your total lack of knowledge of football and your non-logical thought process.

[slowboater]

  17 hours ago, Wisdom said:

Finally the light bulb came on.  You can not build a team around "Jump Ball Joe" he is far too inaccurate and simple minded to carry a NFL team.  With this draft, I'm so happy, the Ravens are getting back to their hard-hitting defensive ways  and not a continuation of Flacco's inept dog and pony show . 

Your wisdom is surpassed only by your total lack of knowledge of football and your non-logical thought process.

I'll bite. I claim I know nothing about football too. IMO, Joe can't carry this team as his track record speaks for itself. And with what the Ravens offense and Tucker did do, the defense now hopefully can stop fading in the 4th and win a few more games. (Do the Jets, Raiders and Redskins games come to mind?) Just because you are Flacco fan doesn't mean you should belittle others that you don't agree with.

[slowboater]

  15 hours ago, JamesA119 said:

  15 hours ago, RavenInWoodlawn said:

LOL Jaime, please point out all these players the team invested in supporting Joe after the Super Bowl. We won the Super Bowl and on the back of Joe, and promptly traded away his go to guy, spent all the savings and cap money we had on defensive guys...half of whom were total busts and didn't last half the season, and then in the following 2 drafts...2013 and 2014, we had 7 picks in the top 3 rounds...and spent 6 of the 7 on defensive players!

That's not surrounding Joe with all the tools and weapons he needed to succeed. Jamie what in the world have you been watching since then?

Mr Woodlawn I can't tell you how disappointed I get when I hear the argument that Flacco carried us to the Super Bowl on his back. He surely played well (11 TD, 0 int) Did you watch Peyton Manning's post game interview after the mile high miracle? Reporters asked him why he didn't throw long much of the game. His response? " ... with #20 back there .... had to be careful with pushing the ball downfield ..."
The mile high miracle pass was awesome. It was really just short of a Hail Mary pass. That game ended on an int by Corey Graham a defensive player. The AFC championship in New England: we held the Patriots scoreless in the second half. We were down 17-7 at the half and won 27-17. People always down play the incredible play of the defense because of Flacco's offensive out put in that playoff run.

No one is saying Flacco won by himself, but he absolutely carried this team to the SB win. The defense made some clutch plays, but they also got torched in the SB, and the mile high miracle wouldn't have been necessary if our ST didn't give up 2 return tds. Flacco was great in every playoff game and was clutch in the 4th qtr. I dont think any other qb has ever won a SB in a postseason where their team gave up more than 30 twice. He torched Denver with the deep ball and carved up the Pats when they played their safeties deep. He had the best statistical postseason ever, and he did it without a dominant player like Moss, Harrison, or Gronk. You can always pick out clutch plays by a defense in any SB run ever. If Joe didn't carry this team to the SB in 2012, then no qb in the history of the game has ever carried their team to the SB. No qb has ever been better or more important to their team's success in a postseaon as Flacco in 2012.

So Joe threw to whom? Boldin? According you, no. Jacoby did what in Denver and in the SB? According you, nothing. The defense played much better than it did during the season for those 4 games. Yes, Joe had a remarkable 4 games but it was only possible because of the rest of the team, Boldin, Jones and others. Oh, and rah, rah Joe!

[J.O.14]

The blame for the past few years is simple........bad drafts, bad contracts. Since 2010 we lost most of our all-pro players to age. During that time we've had very poor drafts and we've also given out some very bad high dollar contracts that tied up tons of money (Monroe, J Smith, Webb, Ngata, Flacco). So all it's gonna take are some good drafts in general (offense or defense) and to cut loose some of these salaries (we've already begun that process).

I don't think J. Smith, Ngata, or Flacco's contracts are bad. That was the market for those players at the time. Ngata essentially lived up to his contract except the last year, which is impressive to get that out of a player these days...they hardly make it through most of their contract anymore. In hindsight we can say Webb was a bad contract because of injuries. When we paid Webb, he just came off a fantastic year and was looking like a great corner. I think he had 5 picks, 2 more in the playoffs and didn't allow a touchdown all year. Monroe was obviously a bad contract.

Our drafts haven't been great, and honestly I like what we did in this draft. It's not a sexy draft, but we made some very good picks.

[bioLarzen]

  14 hours ago, bioLarzen said:

  16 hours ago, JamesA119 said:

  16 hours ago, RavenInWoodlawn said:

LOL Jaime, please point out all these players the team invested in supporting Joe after the Super Bowl. We won the Super Bowl and on the back of Joe, and promptly traded away his go to guy, spent all the savings and cap money we had on defensive guys...half of whom were total busts and didn't last half the season, and then in the following 2 drafts...2013 and 2014, we had 7 picks in the top 3 rounds...and spent 6 of the 7 on defensive players!

That's not surrounding Joe with all the tools and weapons he needed to succeed. Jamie what in the world have you been watching since then?

Mr Woodlawn I can't tell you how disappointed I get when I hear the argument that Flacco carried us to the Super Bowl on his back. He surely played well (11 TD, 0 int) Did you watch Peyton Manning's post game interview after the mile high miracle? Reporters asked him why he didn't throw long much of the game. His response? " ... with #20 back there .... had to be careful with pushing the ball downfield ..."
The mile high miracle pass was awesome. It was really just short of a Hail Mary pass. That game ended on an int by Corey Graham a defensive player. The AFC championship in New England: we held the Patriots scoreless in the second half. We were down 17-7 at the half and won 27-17. People always down play the incredible play of the defense because of Flacco's offensive out put in that playoff run.

With all due respect... In 2012 Manning was no longer in the physical condition to just "push the ball downfield"... As the cold weather set in, he was reported to experience a numbness in the tips of his fingers which admittedly bothered him when throwing more longer than short passes, for example...
And I don't think it's even fair to start analyzing if it was the O or the D which took the Ravens to and then won the Super Bowl - it was the combined effort of both.

That's what I would say. But there are fans who literally think that Flacco put on his cape and told everybody else "... come ride with me.." That my friend is delirious.

Sure, that is quite far from the truth, too.

[mendii]

Let the defense carry the offense. Was a rookie wide receiver going to turn the offense around overnight? We've got some competition on the o-line, RB situation is fine, TEs are above average too. My guess is we're gonna bring in Mangold sooner than later, and then I think our offense looks good enough to be carried by the defense and Tuck's leg. Just like the good ol' days. I'm down.

[KidNme]

The Ravens have actually been quite good at picking up aging vets and getting production out of them. I would dare say, there hasn't been a miss in that department (Maybe Doom). I fully expect to see another aging vet on our offense before it is all said and done. Remember, we did pick up Woodhead, Tony Jefferson and Brandon Carr so with our track record, I'd say these guys are going to help a lot! We also got enough defensive players in the draft that we should be able to shake out a couple really good players to make an impact and at the least, add some depth with a few until they are ready to start. We also have some first and second year PS and bench warmer guys that everyone has forgotten about too such as Nembot and Tavon Young, who I think are going to be really good players for us. Canady, Kafusi come to mind as well. The sky isn't falling. The FO want to win too and they have more at stake with it than we do so here is reason to be optimistic IMHO. Our defense is going to be scary good.

[RavensDieHard21]

19 hours ago, EddiOK said:

Usually, changes in philosophy do not and cannot turn on a dime overnight. If the philosophical change in approach is true, then I expect that to be a 2-3 year transition to being the team resembling that style. So that means potentially 1-2 more years of middling, not-yet-fully-developed, average team stats and finishes before the break out comes.

Lmao what the hell are you talking about? We already were trending in that direction. We were the #1 d for a few weeks and finished 7th. We needed a better pass rush and corner depth to really elevate the defense and now we have those reinforcements. 

Had we been 15th or worse on defense then okay, but we were already knocking on the door if a great defense, especially w J. Smith on the field 🙄

[fusuymada]

I do not believe that going all defense in free agency and the draft(except for a couple late round O lineman) and is not consistent with how the rules of the game have changed and how other successful teams are handling free agency and the draft. However, I will say basically that it seems Bisciotti is happy with mediocrity. He will say pretty much he doesn't know much about the football stuff and he leaves it to those who know, however, I would hope he is smart enough to realize his offense was 24th in the league and has done virtually nothing in free agency, when quality players were out there and the draft is suspect this year regardless of the high grades we received. Let remember, after drafting Elam and Brown we got an A+ grade from most of the pundits and how did that turn out. Draft grades mean nothing for three years and everyone will tell you that. Hopefully I am wrong but I don't think I am but I will be silent and spew no more negativity till we see how some of these guys turn out. Later folks.

[#20=DA MAN!!]

I must admit, I am ecstatic about this draft!! We finally have a corner that can step in and the sky doesn't fall if/when Jimmy gets hurt! We have bonafide pass rushers to finally get back to that qb seeking defense and rotate in and out to keep suggs fresh. Do i wish we could have gotten an offensive playmaker, yes. But look at our roster, west and dixon were very good given the limited amount of running plays called, the Jets and cowboys game come to mind. We ran the ball 11 FREAKING TIMES against the Jets, and at the start of the cowboys game we ran the ball down their throats on the way to the 1st TD, but somehow got away from it. But with the owner lighting a fire under everyone's butt then I believe we will be committed to the run as evidenced by the emphasis we placed on defense this offseason. As i stated in another post, we could pick up some mid to late round lineman and be completely fine. And what did we do, we potentially got a starting LG in Baby Goose, so if we pick up Mangold we will have a solid line in Stanley, Goose, Mangold, Yanda, Lewis. And now to our WR/TE. We have some above avg players all thru the depth chart that can do different things. And the guy to keep an eye on is Camp. IF he can stay healthy, he will be a difference maker. With a full HEALTHY offseason from flacco and perriman, these 2 will finally have the chemistry to tear the opponents apart. I know of 3 people who hated our offseason so far, Browns, Bengals, and Steelers. Because they already know its tough to score on us, and with the additions we have made it became that much harder. In the words of Bart Scott #ICantWait

[OUravensfan]

When did we try to build around Joe? Look to Atlanta and Cincinnati to see how you build around a QB. This is BS

[#20=DA MAN!!]

13 minutes ago, OUravensfan said:

When did we try to build around Joe? Look to Atlanta and Cincinnati to see how you build around a QB. This is BS

And has either of those QBs won a SB to warrant their salary? Has Ben won with this stable of Receivers he has? Has Eli won with OBJ? Has Romo/Dak won with Dez?? #DontWorryIllWait 

[OUravensfan]

58 minutes ago, #20=DA MAN!! said:

And has either of those QBs won a SB to warrant their salary? Has Ben won with this stable of Receivers he has? Has Eli won with OBJ? Has Romo/Dak won with Dez?? #DontWorryIllWait 

If not for total coaching incompetence Atlanta would have. The Bengals are competitive with an awful QB because they surround him with endless talent, Dallas was pretty good last year. 

Still makes me sick the Patriots were handed two Super Bowls based on incompetent coaching from their opposition. 

If we can have an elite defense I won't complain, but I mean elite, not give up the game winning play after a late minute comeback.

Edited Monday at 03:48 PM by OUravensfan

[balfan23]

I don't think this approach is obsolete - though, I know a lot of teams seem to feel it is. 

But here's the thing ... if we take that approach, here's something that Joe and the rest of the offense need to understand. When you play defense first, rule #1 NO TURNOVERS! Especially not ones where you force the ball into coverage when you are already in position to score. Rule #2, you can't have holding penalties or take sacks that take you out of FG range. That's something we've done a lot of lately, it would seem. 

I'm in general a Joe supporter, but that's the one major sticking point I have with his play of late. I'm not worried so much about how many yards he has or what his completion rate is ... it is the number of bad decisions - almost rookie like mistakes - that result in turnovers that take points off the board. I know this turns him into the dreaded "game manager", but I don't care what people call it or how it reflects on him. If it results in winning, that's all that matters. 

[OUravensfan]

2 minutes ago, balfan23 said:

I don't think this approach is obsolete - though, I know a lot of teams seem to feel it is. 

But here's the thing ... if we take that approach, here's something that Joe and the rest of the offense need to understand. When you play defense first, rule #1 NO TURNOVERS! Especially not ones where you force the ball into coverage when you are already in position to score. Rule #2, you can't have holding penalties or take sacks that take you out of FG range. That's something we've done a lot of lately, it would seem. 

I'm in general a Joe supporter, but that's the one major sticking point I have with his play of late. I'm not worried so much about how many yards he has or what his completion rate is ... it is the number of bad decisions - almost rookie like mistakes - that result in turnovers that take points off the board. I know this turns him into the dreaded "game manager", but I don't care what people call it or how it reflects on him. If it results in winning, that's all that matters. 

For rule #2 thankfully our pro bowl center is gone lol

[JD08]

When did we try to build around Joe? Look to Atlanta and Cincinnati to see how you build around a QB. This is BS

Lmaooo how many Superbowls they got.....oh, all that talent in Atlanta and they couldn't even protect a 25 pt lead in the bowl...Cincinnati hasn't won a playoff game since Marvin Lewis left us to become their coach

[chinonsoude]

LOL so what he's saying is there is no philosophical shift. idk how you call that "giving Joe weapons". Drafting one first round wide receiver? and low end tight ends. maybe if the offensive investment even came close to the defensive investment the offense would be better.

[OUravensfan]

1 hour ago, JD08 said:

Lmaooo how many Superbowls they got.....oh, all that talent in Atlanta and they couldn't even protect a 25 pt lead in the bowl...Cincinnati hasn't won a playoff game since Marvin Lewis left us to become their coach

Honestly they run the ball 3x after Jones insane catch and they win, total coaching incompetence. 

And for the record I'm not sounding off about building an elite defense, I'm countering the claim that we really tried to build around our QB, the level of effort our FO put towards that initiative is not even close to many other teams. 

Edited Monday at 05:12 PM by OUravensfan

[RavensBaltimore]

  21 hours ago, RavensBaltimore said:

  22 hours ago, JamesA119 said:

  22 hours ago, RavenInWoodlawn said:

LOL Jaime, please point out all these players the team invested in supporting Joe after the Super Bowl. We won the Super Bowl and on the back of Joe, and promptly traded away his go to guy, spent all the savings and cap money we had on defensive guys...half of whom were total busts and didn't last half the season, and then in the following 2 drafts...2013 and 2014, we had 7 picks in the top 3 rounds...and spent 6 of the 7 on defensive players!

That's not surrounding Joe with all the tools and weapons he needed to succeed. Jamie what in the world have you been watching since then?

Mr Woodlawn I can't tell you how disappointed I get when I hear the argument that Flacco carried us to the Super Bowl on his back. He surely played well (11 TD, 0 int) Did you watch Peyton Manning's post game interview after the mile high miracle? Reporters asked him why he didn't throw long much of the game. His response? " ... with #20 back there .... had to be careful with pushing the ball downfield ..."
The mile high miracle pass was awesome. It was really just short of a Hail Mary pass. That game ended on an int by Corey Graham a defensive player. The AFC championship in New England: we held the Patriots scoreless in the second half. We were down 17-7 at the half and won 27-17. People always down play the incredible play of the defense because of Flacco's offensive out put in that playoff run.

No one is saying Flacco won by himself, but he absolutely carried this team to the SB win. The defense made some clutch plays, but they also got torched in the SB, and the mile high miracle wouldn't have been necessary if our ST didn't give up 2 return tds. Flacco was great in every playoff game and was clutch in the 4th qtr. I dont think any other qb has ever won a SB in a postseason where their team gave up more than 30 twice. He torched Denver with the deep ball and carved up the Pats when they played their safeties deep. He had the best statistical postseason ever, and he did it without a dominant player like Moss, Harrison, or Gronk. You can always pick out clutch plays by a defense in any SB run ever. If Joe didn't carry this team to the SB in 2012, then no qb in the history of the game has ever carried their team to the SB. No qb has ever been better or more important to their team's success in a postseaon as Flacco in 2012.

So Joe threw to whom? Boldin? According you, no. Jacoby did what in Denver and in the SB? According you, nothing. The defense played much better than it did during the season for those 4 games. Yes, Joe had a remarkable 4 games but it was only possible because of the rest of the team, Boldin, Jones and others. Oh, and rah, rah Joe!

No, I never said no one else did anything. Stop putting words in my mouth. "Carry the team" is an expression. Do you understand the difference between a figure of speech and something meant to taken literally? No one argues that Brees, Rodgers, or Brady carried their team, yet none of them won anything without other players making plays, too.

[powers2be]

I do not believe that going all defense in free agency and the draft(except for a couple late round O lineman) and is not consistent with how the rules of the game have changed and how other successful teams are handling free agency and the draft. However, I will say basically that it seems Bisciotti is happy with mediocrity. He will say pretty much he doesn't know much about the football stuff and he leaves it to those who know, however, I would hope he is smart enough to realize his offense was 24th in the league and has done virtually nothing in free agency, when quality players were out there and the draft is suspect this year regardless of the high grades we received. Let remember, after drafting Elam and Brown we got an A+ grade from most of the pundits and how did that turn out. Draft grades mean nothing for three years and everyone will tell you that. Hopefully I am wrong but I don't think I am but I will be silent and spew no more negativity till we see how some of these guys turn out. Later folks.

Before we get too hard on ownership and management we should take a moment and give thanks we are not the Chicago Bears

[JD08]

  5 hours ago, JD08 said:

Lmaooo how many Superbowls they got.....oh, all that talent in Atlanta and they couldn't even protect a 25 pt lead in the bowl...Cincinnati hasn't won a playoff game since Marvin Lewis left us to become their coach

Honestly they run the ball 3x after Jones insane catch and they win, total coaching incompetence. 

And for the record I'm not sounding off about building an elite defense, I'm countering the claim that we really tried to build around our QB, the level of effort our FO put towards that initiative is not even close to many other teams. 

I agree there, feel like Ryan could've audibled or something was obvious what the play call should've been....but idk I guess.

As for building around Joe, it was done pretty well before we won the Superbowl.....after that he got his contract, Harbaugh got rid of guys he didn't like, we struck out on some players, and now we are where we are

[riseNConquer81]

yeah, sounds very familiar. sounds like an 8-8 team hoping for a conference weak enough to actually let them in the playoffs and attempt to manufacture a miracle with nothing but a good defense and a kicker....

you cant play like this anymore, it wont work. the 2K ravens averaged TEN points allowed per game. JUST 10. you'll never pull that off in this league again.

Feels like the guard in the front office is going to have to change soon.
Ozzie never does a bad job, but he cant put together an offense, he's not even trying anymore, and we cant win without one.
That's not going to work.

Edited yesterday at 01:05 AM by riseNConquer81

[sizzlingdoom]

yeah, sounds very familiar. sounds like an 8-8 team hoping for a conference weak enough to actually let them in the playoffs and attempt to manufacture a miracle with nothing but a good defense and a kicker....

you cant play like this anymore, it wont work. the 2K ravens averaged TEN points allowed per game and STILL only went 8-8. JUST 10. you'll never pull that off in this league again.

Feels like the guard in the front office is going to have to change soon.
Ozzie never does a bad job, but he cant put together an offense and we cant win without one.

very true

[sizzlingdoom]

I do not believe that going all defense in free agency and the draft(except for a couple late round O lineman) and is not consistent with how the rules of the game have changed and how other successful teams are handling free agency and the draft. However, I will say basically that it seems Bisciotti is happy with mediocrity. He will say pretty much he doesn't know much about the football stuff and he leaves it to those who know, however, I would hope he is smart enough to realize his offense was 24th in the league and has done virtually nothing in free agency, when quality players were out there and the draft is suspect this year regardless of the high grades we received. Let remember, after drafting Elam and Brown we got an A+ grade from most of the pundits and how did that turn out. Draft grades mean nothing for three years and everyone will tell you that. Hopefully I am wrong but I don't think I am but I will be silent and spew no more negativity till we see how some of these guys turn out. Later folks.

Pretty much my feelings as well

[EddiOK]

  On 4/30/2017 at 2:03 PM, EddiOK said:

Usually, changes in philosophy do not and cannot turn on a dime overnight. If the philosophical change in approach is true, then I expect that to be a 2-3 year transition to being the team resembling that style. So that means potentially 1-2 more years of middling, not-yet-fully-developed, average team stats and finishes before the break out comes.

Lmao what the hell are you talking about? We already were trending in that direction. We were the #1 d for a few weeks and finished 7th. We needed a better pass rush and corner depth to really elevate the defense and now we have those reinforcements. 

Had we been 15th or worse on defense then okay, but we were already knocking on the door if a great defense, especially w J. Smith on the field 🙄

Well, if it's as you're saying, then let's not call this a "Major Philosophical Shift" as it's titled. Seems like a bucket load of hyperbole, rather than simple mid-stream adjustments. That was my original point.

[RavensBaltimore]

yeah, sounds very familiar. sounds like an 8-8 team hoping for a conference weak enough to actually let them in the playoffs and attempt to manufacture a miracle with nothing but a good defense and a kicker....

you cant play like this anymore, it wont work. the 2K ravens averaged TEN points allowed per game and STILL only went 8-8. JUST 10. you'll never pull that off in this league again.

Feels like the guard in the front office is going to have to change soon.
Ozzie never does a bad job, but he cant put together an offense, he's not even trying anymore, and we cant win without one.
That's not going to work.

The 2k Ravens did not go 8-8. They went 12-4 and won the SB.