Steelers forum praises Ravens draft and appreciate our franchise

[flynismo]

Just now, atomicfront said:

You too. 

No, I like it here. I plan on sticking around til it closes.

[jdynamite]

My first thoughts were " Wait The Steelers still have a forum and we're losing ours in days ". 

 

Guess I'll skim through this now. 

[jdynamite]

On 4/30/2017 at 4:59 PM, ellicottraven said:

The Steelers are our real rival and is why I dislike them vehemently. The Bengals are the armpit of the AFC North man! They have no class from the owner all the way down to their draft picks. Who with an iota of morality would pick Mixon or a Burfict? Not the Ravens and I'm near certain nor would the Steelers. We build through the draft and coaching by selecting quality players that are warriors when they play each other. In my mind there are 3 top of the line franchises in the AFC - Pats, Ravens and the Steelers. In the NFC - Pakcers, Seahawks and the Giants.

 

Well yesterday I heard Chris Carter talk about the Bengals Owner, very candidly. He said Owner Mike Brown had him talk to all the players and rookies a few times to tell them about his story as a player and how he overcame his off field struggles with drugs etc.  

Anyway he apologized to Chris for not drafting him since he knew Chris was from nearby in Ohio and struggled to make it there. Then when the Eagles cut Carter the owner said he felt like he should have signed him them to give him a second chance because he always felt he needed to use his team as avenue to give second chances and help those less fortunate, overlooked or with red flags.   

 

Carter said he's willing to draft and sign guys just so they can have a chance to correct past mistakes and even if it fails he's tried to help them. 

[ellicottraven]

13 minutes ago, jdynamite said:

 

Well yesterday I heard Chris Carter talk about the Bengals Owner, very candidly. He said Owner Mike Brown had him talk to all the players and rookies a few times to tell them about his story as a player and how he overcame his off field struggles with drugs etc.  

Anyway he apologized to Chris for not drafting him since he knew Chris was from nearby in Ohio and struggled to make it there. Then when the Eagles cut Carter the owner said he felt like he should have signed him them to give him a second chance because he always felt he needed to use his team as avenue to give second chances and help those less fortunate, overlooked or with red flags.   

 

Carter said he's willing to draft and sign guys just so they can have a chance to correct past mistakes and even if it fails he's tried to help them. 

For Carter to say those things is understandable because he gets paid to visit and speak. However, in reality it has much less to do with second chances than getting high value talent at low price points. Also, second contracts are much cheaper as well. That is all the moral rationale the owner is using. Everything else is pure make up to cover an ugly franchise.

[rossihunter2]

48 minutes ago, jdynamite said:

 

Well yesterday I heard Chris Carter talk about the Bengals Owner, very candidly. He said Owner Mike Brown had him talk to all the players and rookies a few times to tell them about his story as a player and how he overcame his off field struggles with drugs etc.  

Anyway he apologized to Chris for not drafting him since he knew Chris was from nearby in Ohio and struggled to make it there. Then when the Eagles cut Carter the owner said he felt like he should have signed him them to give him a second chance because he always felt he needed to use his team as avenue to give second chances and help those less fortunate, overlooked or with red flags.   

 

Carter said he's willing to draft and sign guys just so they can have a chance to correct past mistakes and even if it fails he's tried to help them. 

that's crazy - i hate the sentiment that everyone deserves a second chance at the privilege of playing football - it is a privilege not a right - drug issues im fine with, various character concerns/maturity issues arent ideal and obviously rarely pan out but they arent unforgivable but mixon did something that should preclude him from the privilege of playing football in my eyes - his only punishment is that he maybe dropped a round in the draft (at most)

all this is, is the bengals working out that they can get a guy who is incredibly talented on the field because he fell a little bit - this is purely monetary and the bengal's organisation deserve no credit for giving guys like mixon second chances - they can't have their cake and eat it too

[redrum52]

On 5/1/2017 at 9:22 AM, atomicfront said:

They made the playoffs the last 2 seasons and we didn't.  They don't respect us anymore that is why they appreciate us.  If we knock them out of the playoffs this year they won't appreciate us at all and will go back to hating us.  This has to be the stupidest thread I have ever read.  

Did you guys appreciate the Patriots when they didn't report who was eligible in our last playoff game and humiliated us on the way to the Super Bowl?  Go to a Steelers game in Pittsburgh when we were good with a Ravens jersey on and see how much they appreciate you.  Man reddit can't be worse than this forum. 

I actually did.  Going into that game, if I told you we get into a shoot out and hold our own, would you have believed me?  Teams aside, that was a great game.  Hated we had to be on the losing end, but it is what it is.  BB when it's all said and done, will most likely be regarded as the greatest coach of all time and that game is just more proof.  If we would've pulled off some moves like that, I doubt Ravens fans would be as salty, even though I think the refs didn't handle the situation properly.

 

As far as the Steelers go, they better goddam respect us.  In our worse season in 9 years, we were still able to sweep them.  And as bad as we were at times last year, still took them damn near the whole game to put us away for the division.

[berad]

I know the Patriots are the vogue enemy now - they've done so many more annoying things recently - but the Steelers will always be the game I have the most trepidation for. I hope it always stays like that, it's the best in sports.

[atomicfront]

11 hours ago, flynismo said:

No, I like it here. I plan on sticking around til it closes.

It is closing in two days so you see you on reddit.  

[rossihunter2]

18 minutes ago, atomicfront said:

It is closing in two days so you see you on reddit.  

why dont you warm it up for us?

[Inqui]

On 5/2/2017 at 1:22 AM, atomicfront said:

They made the playoffs the last 2 seasons and we didn't.  They don't respect us anymore that is why they appreciate us.  If we knock them out of the playoffs this year they won't appreciate us at all and will go back to hating us.  This has to be the stupidest thread I have ever read.  

Did you guys appreciate the Patriots when they didn't report who was eligible in our last playoff game and humiliated us on the way to the Super Bowl?  Go to a Steelers game in Pittsburgh when we were good with a Ravens jersey on and see how much they appreciate you.  Man reddit can't be worse than this forum. 

In 2014 I wore a CJ jersey to our game in Pittsburgh (two years off our Super Bowl and in the middle of a great season during which we'd belted them once already). There were a few flogs (though I'm pretty sure they could say the same thing about Baltimore) but for the most part there was plenty of respect - they respected me and the distance I'd travelled to see the game, they respected how good both sides were, they respected Joe as a QB and John as a coach, and they respected the Ravens as a strong franchise and a worthy rival for divisional bragging rights. And there have been plenty of people on this forum over the years who've noted similar experiences in Pittsburgh. 

[jdynamite]

16 hours ago, rossihunter2 said:

that's crazy - i hate the sentiment that everyone deserves a second chance at the privilege of playing football - it is a privilege not a right - drug issues im fine with, various character concerns/maturity issues arent ideal and obviously rarely pan out but they arent unforgivable but mixon did something that should preclude him from the privilege of playing football in my eyes - his only punishment is that he maybe dropped a round in the draft (at most)

all this is, is the bengals working out that they can get a guy who is incredibly talented on the field because he fell a little bit - this is purely monetary and the bengal's organisation deserve no credit for giving guys like mixon second chances - they can't have their cake and eat it too

Honestly, if the Mixon tape isn't released 3-4 months before the draft, then he gets drafted goes through his rookie season just like Chiefs WR Tyreek Hill with no issues. Or Michigan CB J.Lewis drafted by Dallas. 

Mixon incident happened in 2014, the kid was suspended by school from football, had community service and court mandated counseling and whatever else.  

The video comes out the violent and senseless act now has imagery to go with it and it becomes a fresh memory. 

Mixon hasn't had any other issues academically, personally or team related. 

Now if the NCAA had decided to strip away his scholarship ban him from football  completely then I could understand the NFL taking a stand as well. But the guy faced whatever penalties were given to him, the NCAA was able to profit from him playing for Oklahoma the last 2 years, so why should he not have the opportunity to play in the NFL.

He's taken his second chance thus far and remained out of trouble for the last 2.5 years. 

People want the NFL to condemn him to double jeopardy like they did Ray Rice because of this video being fresh to everyone's minds. 

[rossihunter2]

4 hours ago, jdynamite said:

Now if the NCAA had decided to strip away his scholarship ban him from football  completely then I could understand the NFL taking a stand as well. But the guy faced whatever penalties were given to him, the NCAA was able to profit from him playing for Oklahoma the last 2 years, so why should he not have the opportunity to play in the NFL.

i wouldn't exactly hold the NCAA up as the beacon of morality