[News] Eisenberg: Ravens Have Obsessively Improved Their Defense

[Tsizzle24]

Even though i would have liked to see them pick a o-lineman or WR, the defense was what the Ravens were known for in in 2012 and that brought them to a Super Bowl victory. More players are going to be picked and cut, you can't judge Ozzie's decisions until the end of next season.

[Tsizzle24]

I gotta say the Ravens defense is gonna be elite in 2017 for sure. The only thing l wish they did was gotten Rueben Foster in the 1st and got a corner later but hey Humphrey is ok and Ozzie must be worried about his shoulder. Did'nt do nothing to approved the offense, but we got the cuts and also got 2018 to improved that. 2017 will be a decent year, but 2018 will be a scary team. 👍

Yeah i agree they should have picked Rueben Foster.

[txrave]

Ok, Pees is excited, but, he needs a mind-meld w/RexR!!!
AND, besides not needing the #3 guy (or are they giving up on the many guys on the DL that they drafted in the last 2 years?), I find it hard to believe that there wasn't at least ONE offensive guy near the same "draft value"!!! At SOME point, you have to stretch a bit.
And, Tim Williams is being compared to RandyGregory re failed drug tests, et al.

[jravens1313]

This draft has been a home run so far. It is evidence that we want to get back to dominating on Defense to win football games. Tim Williams is an elite rush specialist who walks in and replace Doom. Bowser is an every down guy with great motor and the best athleticism and versatility at the OLB position in the 2017 class. Humphrey has all the traits you want in a CB and is highly competitive. Wormley was considered a 2nd Round guy and could play DE or DT depending on the situation. Throw in Tony Jefferson, Brandon Carr. WOA have fun with that Deen Pees.

Time to continue the streak with a great 4th and 5th Round!

[NCGuy]

34 minutes ago, TheConquerorWorm said:

4 hours ago, The Greek said:

  8 hours ago, mc_red23 said:

I love how the defense is going to be insane for the coming season, thank you, thank you, thank you Ozzie for picking Tim Williams!

On the other hand, I'd be raging if I was Flacco. Apart from picking up Woodhead we've done nothing to help him do his job to a good enough level.  There's no reason why we couldn't have gone Ardarius Stewart/Chris Godwin & Tim Williams (in any order) in round 3. Perriman best be the crap this season or else we could be in trouble. 

flacco needs to make the players around him better like $25 million qb's are paid to do

Flacco is making $6 million this year.

 Flacco is not "making" 6 million this year. Ever hear of a signing bonus? Check out his average salary over the length of his contract to figure that out, since you obviously have no idea how to do so. Saying he makes "only" six million is not even remotely correct.

[Moderator 3]

9 minutes ago, NCGuy said:

 Flacco is not "making" 6 million this year. Ever hear of a signing bonus? Check out his average salary over the length of his contract to figure that out, since you obviously have no idea how to do so. Saying he makes "only" six million is not even remotely correct.

Actually, Flacco will only be paid $6 million this year.  His $25 million cap hit is based on money that has previously been paid.

[TheConquerorWorm]

31 minutes ago, NCGuy said:

Flacco is not "making" 6 million this year. Ever hear of a signing bonus? Check out his average salary over the length of his contract to figure that out, since you obviously have no idea how to do so. Saying he makes "only" six million is not even remotely correct.

And when did he get the signing bonus? Not this year. $4 million of his cap number is from the signing bonus from 2013. And the other $13 million signing bonus is from 2016.

Average salary over the contract does not equal what you get paid. Maybe you should do some research on the salary cap.

Flacco's actual salary for 2017 is $ 6 million - that's how much cash he is getting paid this year, period. So I guess you count how much money you made over the last 5 years, average it out and then report that to the IRS as your salary for this year? That's how you do your taxes? SMH

[bigcatfrank1]

This draft has been a home run so far. It is evidence that we want to get back to dominating on Defense to win football games. Tim Williams is an elite rush specialist who walks in and replace Doom. Bowser is an every down guy with great motor and the best athleticism and versatility at the OLB position in the 2017 class. Humphrey has all the traits you want in a CB and is highly competitive. Wormley was considered a 2nd Round guy and could play DE or DT depending on the situation. Throw in Tony Jefferson, Brandon Carr. WOA have fun with that Deen Pees.

Time to continue the streak with a great 4th and 5th Round!

Yes, I really like it too. And I am the one that is still saying we need to consider Running Game, RB, as an issue.

However looking player against player there is no doubt the Ravens picked great bargains at every pick. The players were all rated higher on the board than when available, not counting 16 just because Marlon was definitely a top 20 pick. I believe he will surprise many when he hits the field, we can only hope and look forward to it.

Its about building a Championship not which player will set records. This is the Ravens philosophy, they stick to it most times and as a fan I think its a great system. Some may disagree, however look at NE, they traded even further down. Why, because they know its about building Championships not about chasing drafts.

One thing is probably most interesting is that the Ravens didn't trade down, considering how the first 15 went off the board. That just tells you OZ was not going to make a deal unless it was absolutely a "must make" and well in the Ravens favor.

[ravens4life86]

3 picks away.. Ravens are going to get a good pick in round 4.
Jake Butt might still be there if they want to take a Jason Witton type TE prospect, who fell cause knee injury.

Or OL like Siragusa,Roderick Johnson, etc
Wrs, Ford,Dupree, etc

[bigcatfrank1]

  8 hours ago, mc_red23 said:

I love how the defense is going to be insane for the coming season, thank you, thank you, thank you Ozzie for picking Tim Williams!

On the other hand, I'd be raging if I was Flacco. Apart from picking up Woodhead we've done nothing to help him do his job to a good enough level.  There's no reason why we couldn't have gone Ardarius Stewart/Chris Godwin & Tim Williams (in any order) in round 3. Perriman best be the crap this season or else we could be in trouble. 

At $25m a year, Flacco needs to do more, period (see other $20+ QBs such as Brady & Rodgers).

Maybe he could be like Romo? NOT
Though Joe is much more like Brees, E. Manning and Palmer. They make just about the same with bonuses, contract sides, endorsements and such.
Why are we discussing Joe? He is the quarterback it isn't going to change, he has earned it, he is playing and yes we should all expect him to "do more".

[bigcatfrank1]

  33 minutes ago, jravens1313 said:

This draft has been a home run so far. It is evidence that we want to get back to dominating on Defense to win football games. Tim Williams is an elite rush specialist who walks in and replace Doom. Bowser is an every down guy with great motor and the best athleticism and versatility at the OLB position in the 2017 class. Humphrey has all the traits you want in a CB and is highly competitive. Wormley was considered a 2nd Round guy and could play DE or DT depending on the situation. Throw in Tony Jefferson, Brandon Carr. WOA have fun with that Deen Pees.

Time to continue the streak with a great 4th and 5th Round!

Yes, I really like it too. And I am the one that is still saying we need to consider Running Game, RB, as an issue.

However looking player against player there is no doubt the Ravens picked great bargains at every pick. The players were all rated higher on the board than when available, not counting 16 just because Marlon was definitely a top 20 pick. I believe he will surprise many when he hits the field, we can only hope and look forward to it.

Its about building a Championship not which player will set records. This is the Ravens philosophy, they stick to it most times and as a fan I think its a great system. Some may disagree, however look at NE, they traded even further down. Why, because they know its about building Championships not about chasing drafts.

One thing is probably most interesting is that the Ravens didn't trade down, considering how the first 15 went off the board. That just tells you OZ was not going to make a deal unless it was absolutely a "must make" and well in the Ravens favor.

Ps, O-line will help the running game. I would expect the Ravens will take a look at options at RB at least for the first 4 games. Maybe just pick up a journeyman style back from the FA pool.

With that said I sure hope our running game can perform to Ravens championship level.

[KidNme]

We're gong to be Stellar against the pass AND the run. Our new pass rush guys are very good at breaking up plays, run or pass, setting the edge and plenty of speed and tackling ability, not to mention, hassling QB's as their #1 job for which they were picked. Folks have been crying about getting back to a great defense and after last seasons late game lead losses, this is great news. As far as our WR's, we do have some talent there. Chris Moore is going to be something special I think. Perriman has shown some clutch ability and if he can start catching the easy ones, he'll be here for quite a while. Wallace will get the job done and will help our receiver core get better. We also have a couple TE's on our roster as well as Woodhead to catch passes too. We're also not done adding players and adding veterans to fill the left over holes when this is all said and done, will help bring some of the new guys and PS members from last year up to par. With the way the draft fell for us, I really can't see doing much better.
You can't be too mad at the FO the way I see it, we're a lot better than last year and all those #1 guys picked by our competitors in this draft still have to make the transition AND stay healthy.
I guess the moral of this story is, don't be mad at what we didn't do, be happy for what we DID do.

[KidNme]

Also,
We averaged 21 points a game and our opponents averaged 20 points per game against us last season. Even though our record didn't get us into the playoffs, it tells me we weren't that far off from having a few of those games fall our way. Now that we look to have an even more awesome D, what will be our opponents average points be against us this season? 20 per game avg? looks that way on paper so far. That's just stopping them from reaching FG range one time more per game and I think we'll do far better than that. Now our offense doesn't HAVE TO score 30 points. Ya, I'd like to have 4 WR's that catch everything that's thrown to them and an O line that doesn't allow anyone to get to Joe ever and open huge holes for our RB's but you can't have it all. As far as I see it, our D will help our O and that's the next best thing we could hope for with the way all the projected top flight O guys went off the board before we could get to them. The Ravens know how to shop with the best of them. Luck also plays a part and that has a way of going around the room.

[Ravensfolyfe]

I'm on board with making the defense solid but we can't abandon the offense like this. Flacco needs protection as he said he'll wear the brace again so we gotta protect our qb or were gonna have a huge problem competing with other teams in our division. I'm also wondering why we passed on so many quality wr for defensive players,i guess we all will find out how this situation will turn out when the season starts.

[ravens4life86]

Love Bowser,Williams,Siragusa picks. So so on others. Im sure i'll warm up to Humphrey if he turns into a stud.

Rnd 5, pick up a offensive weapon please.

[bioLarzen]

Love Bowser,Williams,Siragusa picks. So so on others. Im sure i'll warm up to Humphrey if he turns into a stud.

Rnd 5, pick up a offensive weapon please.

I'm not sure you'll find a real "weapon" in round #5... Certainly not a guy who's projected to have a chance to make any kind of instant impact - those guys are long gone.

[bioLarzen]

I'm on board with making the defense solid but we can't abandon the offense like this. Flacco needs protection as he said he'll wear the brace again so we gotta protect our qb or were gonna have a huge problem competing with other teams in our division. I'm also wondering why we passed on so many quality wr for defensive players,i guess we all will find out how this situation will turn out when the season starts.

To be quite honest, with Mohrningweg retained, I see no reason to really expect anything from the O. With Steve Smith, Juszczyk, Wagner and Aiken gone, I cannot see a stronger Ravens offensive roster for 2017, even if Ben Watson is healthy and we get either (or both of) Boldin or Mangold, and I haven't the slightest trust in Mohrninweg's alleged offensive system - therefore I see no reason to hope for a better O... and selecting no offensive weapon early in the draft hasn't really made a difference.

[bioLarzen]

  11 hours ago, hen826957 said:

I gotta say the Ravens defense is gonna be elite in 2017 for sure. The only thing l wish they did was gotten Rueben Foster in the 1st and got a corner later but hey Humphrey is ok and Ozzie must be worried about his shoulder. Did'nt do nothing to approved the offense, but we got the cuts and also got 2018 to improved that. 2017 will be a decent year, but 2018 will be a scary team. 👍

Yeah i agree they should have picked Rueben Foster.

Too bad our stupid owner listens to Ozzie instead of you :D

[LLee88]

  30 minutes ago, ravens4life86 said:

Love Bowser,Williams,Siragusa picks. So so on others. Im sure i'll warm up to Humphrey if he turns into a stud.

Rnd 5, pick up a offensive weapon please.

I'm not sure you'll find a real "weapon" in round #5... Certainly not a guy who's projected to have a chance to make any kind of instant impact - those guys are long gone.

Robert Davis from Georgia State has size speed and good athleticism check him out.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=N0PqnF-q4p8

[GENE2407]

I think you'd be crazy to believe you can fix this team in one draft, so I'm ok with them picking all defense, considering it will probably take an entire draft to fix the offense (not just a couple late, 4th round picks). So fix the damn defense this year, offense next year and add to the defense the following.

[GENE2407]

  1 hour ago, Ravensfolyfe said:

I'm on board with making the defense solid but we can't abandon the offense like this. Flacco needs protection as he said he'll wear the brace again so we gotta protect our qb or were gonna have a huge problem competing with other teams in our division. I'm also wondering why we passed on so many quality wr for defensive players,i guess we all will find out how this situation will turn out when the season starts.

To be quite honest, with Mohrningweg retained, I see no reason to really expect anything from the O. With Steve Smith, Juszczyk, Wagner and Aiken gone, I cannot see a stronger Ravens offensive roster for 2017, even if Ben Watson is healthy and we get either (or both of) Boldin or Mangold, and I haven't the slightest trust in Mohrninweg's alleged offensive system - therefore I see no reason to hope for a better O... and selecting no offensive weapon early in the draft hasn't really made a difference.

Just look at the change this team had when Cam was fired. People just don't realize or believe that an offensive/def coordinator is just as important as the people playing on the field. I really don't like either one.........we had Pagano and Kubiak and got screwed out of both. We've been dumpster diving ever since.

[law215]

In this draft, the Ravens appear to want to get back to their original identity. Great defense and power running game. We want dynamic play makers, but that has never been the primary focus of Ravens football that led to a championship.

What Kubiak did more than anything else was commit to the run and have big plays off play action. I would like to see a vet to go with these young receivers and I think we'll be fine.

Also, there will be quality practice squad guys that are diamond with how deep this draft is at certain positions.

[axisofeeble]

On paper draft looks very good. Needs were met and "if" these young men can be RAVENS then Ozzie might have made us competitive again. Big Ben can't throw to Brown if we are still running the ball down the field eating the clock. WR looks thin but Perriman is almost as fast as Ross and a healthy Boyle blocking with Watson,Pitta running the seams with Woodhead getting those 3rd downs we are always in I believe we can be 9-7...10-6 this year. Good Job Ozzie. Now on to the phones and find US some undrafted gems. GO RAVENS GO!

[cec327]

Three observation about the draft:
1.Grades are ridiculous
2. So much hype , so much nonsense.
3. Can't miss picks? Another silly designation.
But this is the time of the year enthusiasm is high, after all the ravens are unbeaten. Pass the purple cool aide which, btw, I love.

[Crusader]

Love Bowser,Williams,Siragusa picks. So so on others. Im sure i'll warm up to Humphrey if he turns into a stud.

Rnd 5, pick up a offensive weapon please.

Same here. I hope too Humphrey turns into another Chris McAlister or better. Chris was another let go after John showed up(Same age as Carr) and should be in the ring of honor. No Raven CB has been better... yet.

[Crusader]

Yep, 2008 was the best star studded Ravens team. Almost all position had play makers.Came down to this for the Super Bowl " Pittsburgh pulled away as safety Troy Polamalu returned an interception 40 yards for a touchdown."

[Bruce_Almty]

This just in from Bleacher Rpt, RICHARD JANVRIN ... "If you thought the Baltimore Ravens defense was intimidating before the draft, look again: It got a lot more scary.

With their first-round pick, the Ravens took Alabama defensive back Marlon Humphrey. While Humphrey may be a cornerback out of the gate, he might end up being a better safety in the long-run which is a position the Ravens do not need. However, with Brandon Carr and Jimmy Smith, the Ravens have found more depth at the position, making this secondary one of the best in the entire league.

The Ravens lost defensive end Lawrence Guy this offseason, the Ravens addressed their pass rush with Houston edge rusher Tyus Bowser. While he may be a bit of a project, Bowser is one of the most athletic guys you'll find in this entire class. He still learning a lot of the intricacies of football, but he should be a pretty productive pass-rusher when asked to this season.

Wormley was a great value in round three and he'll serve as a nice run-stuffer who has drawn comparisons to Guy, who now plays for the New England Patriots.

Williams is another project player who didn't play much in college, but should develop into at least a pass-rushing specialist.

Their first offensive player was taken in the fourth-round in Siragusa who should start day one at left guard, pushing Alex Lewis over to right tackle, helping out the offensive line some.

While the Ravens didn't exactly draft a ton of impact, day one, starters, they drafted plenty of great pieces that really improved their defense—they could be the best defense in the sport with their new additions in 2017. That alone warrants a spot here."

No if the offense can just be a bit less ... offensive.

[757RavensFan]

19 hours ago, ravens4life86 said:

Love Bowser,Williams,Siragusa picks. So so on others. Im sure i'll warm up to Humphrey if he turns into a stud.

Rnd 5, pick up a offensive weapon please.

Ya think? Why would you NOT like him if he turned into a stud? LOL

[Crusader]

Ravens brought in WR T wilson. He must be fast cause he makes people look stupid when they try to catch him. Check his video out.

[b93333]

I sure hope Ozzie has a plan for the OL... Two day three picks are unlikely to make much of an immediate impact.