Welcome to Baltimore Tim Williams

[flynismo]

20 minutes ago, allblackraven said:

He is consensus top 2-3 pass rusher in this class. What dropped him was off the field stuff.

Honestly, I think the effects of that were a little overblown. Like Mixon, who is far more concerning to me, still went in the top portion of the 2nd. But that isn't to say it had no effect, it clearly did play a role as well. I just think the lack of experience / one-dimensional player had a bigger role.

[Sami84]

6 minutes ago, flynismo said:

I wish you and Harbs would stop saying that after every interview LOL.

Hey this is harbs, we feel this is one of the best drafts in years, all the players... they play like ravens. We cannot wait to get to work, God is great, we have the best QB in football and also we have faith, faith in the guy above, I have no idea what I'm saying but we're going to be a great football team next year, if we put in the work, i believe that we've addressed many of the issues from last year but as ozzie said, we also are not done yet.

I love god, I love our military, I love our president, I love america, I love being brainwashed..

Heart of lions

Edited Sunday at 08:07 PM by Sami84

[Militant X 1]

As one who is more defensive-minded than offense....I really liked what the Ravens did this draft to sure up that fledgling and floundering defense from previous seasons.  I must admit though that it shocked me to see us making all of these moves and doing nothing offensively to help Joe.  Maybe it was due to Flacco himself saying that we didn't need anymore receivers?  And Wallace said the same thing as well?  I believe that Ozzie will still add a new WR to the mix through trades or free agent signing after some have been released from other teams before the start of the season.  I hope so!

Edited Sunday at 08:11 PM by Militant X 1

[JoeyFlex5]

21 hours ago, Jacquouille said:

http://draftbreakdown.com/exclusive-interview-with-alabamas-tim-williams/

I have liked Tim Williams as a person since the first time I saw his interviews. I don't think he has legit concerns, he really seems to have a good head on his shoulders. And he's got this respectably humble but quiet and strong confident demeanor going on.

[PurpleCity5]

Such a steal. 

[allblackraven]

1 hour ago, flynismo said:

Honestly, I think the effects of that were a little overblown. Like Mixon, who is far more concerning to me, still went in the top portion of the 2nd. But that isn't to say it had no effect, it clearly did play a role as well. I just think the lack of experience / one-dimensional player had a bigger role.

It's a little bit of an urban myth that he is one-dimensional player. Due to ridiculous depth on that Alabama front, he didn't need to play 3 downs a lot but at times he did - this shows through TFL numbers if you didn't watch too many games. 

In roughly half the number of snaps played, he has just 1.5 sacks less than Garrett but the most extraordinary thing about Williams is his effectiveness. For his career, he managed to get to QB on 25% of passing plays and that number in 2015 was 28% +. This is unheard of, he was in a QB's face once in less than 4 snaps. College average is about 10%.

Even if he was one dimensional player, with those numbers I honestly couldn't care less.

[ravensnation5220]

43 minutes ago, JoeyFlex5 said:

I have liked Tim Williams as a person since the first time I saw his interviews. I don't think he has legit concerns, he really seems to have a good head on his shoulders. And he's got this respectably humble but quiet and strong confident demeanor going on.

Same

[Crimson Raven]

6 minutes ago, allblackraven said:

It's a little bit of an urban myth that he is one-dimensional player. Due to ridiculous depth on that Alabama front, he didn't need to play 3 downs a lot but at times he did - this shows through TFL numbers if you didn't watch too many games. 

In roughly half the number of snaps played, he has just 1.5 sacks less than Garrett but the most extraordinary thing about Williams is his effectiveness. For his career, he managed to get to QB on 25% of passing plays and that number in 2015 was 28% +. This is unheard of, he was in a QB's face once in less than 4 snaps. College average is about 10%.

Even if he was one dimensional player, with those numbers I honestly couldn't care less.

Kinda like Randy Moss is a one dimensional player, but one dimension is all he needs.

[ellicottraven]

On 4/28/2017 at 10:58 PM, BOLDnPurPnBlacK said:

I would've been completely happy with him at 16. Got him at 78. Steal of the draft so far imo. 

Do yourself a favor and watch the sports science on him. 

The explosive get off faster and more powerful than Robert Quinn, thighs as big as Arik Armstead while 40 lbs lighter, tighter/faster spin move than Vic Beasley...

Got up to 15 mph in 2 closing steps to the QB delivering a punishing blow. 

 

Im salivating. 

can you post a link to the video. I searched for it with no success.

[allblackraven]

Just now, ellicottraven said:

can you post a link to the video. I searched for it with no success.

go back a page or two in this thread, you'll see it

[ellicottraven]

Tim Williams is by far the most exciting pick of the 2017 draft imo. He's just exciting to watch man. Not monstrous in size but a technician who can get to the QB.

[Underdogsontop!]

On 4/28/2017 at 5:09 PM, Sami84 said:

I think Bowser might have a jamie collins kind of role on this D as well as rush the passer/

I seen the same exact type of player. I wish he could be that type now but I'm thinking in a year or 2. 

 

As for Tim Williams, dam if he keeps his head on straight and plays like a Raven he could be a pro bowl player very quick! I'm really glad we got him where we got him. OC's are going to be worried with this defense!

Edited Sunday at 10:36 PM by Underdogsontop!

[polynesian15]

36 minutes ago, ellicottraven said:

Tim Williams is by far the most exciting pick of the 2017 draft imo. He's just exciting to watch man. Not monstrous in size but a technician who can get to the QB.

He does look a bit light (244 lbs), upper body especially. How much do you think he needs to gain to maximize his potential?

[Ravenskid52752]

1 hour ago, ravensnation5220 said:

Same

Plus he has a new baby girl who he is now living for over himself so I think hes going in the right direction plus he good friends with both CJ and Marlon 

[allblackraven]

23 hours ago, Jacquouille said:

Waw, I didn't know that. Guy has absolutely no clue...

 

[purpletide]

50 minutes ago, ellicottraven said:

Tim Williams is by far the most exciting pick of the 2017 draft imo. He's just exciting to watch man. Not monstrous in size but a technician who can get to the QB.

And in the third too!

[ravensnation5220]

38 minutes ago, Ravenskid52752 said:

Plus he has a new baby girl who he is now living for over himself so I think hes going in the right direction plus he good friends with both CJ and Marlon 

The one thing that makes me think he can stay clean is that we didnt hear anything about his combine drug test. Which is a good thing 

[rossihunter2]

3 minutes ago, ravensnation5220 said:

The one thing that makes me think he can stay clean is that we didnt hear anything about his combine drug test. Which is a good thing 

yeah all his drug issues outside of the gun possession arrest were 3 years ago or more - there were no reports he failed his combine drugs test and he's got responsibilities now to his family --> the gun possession thing was weird but seemed to be a misunderstanding, the drugs thing i couldnt really care about as long as he doesnt do them anymore (and once the NFL gets past its archaic punishments for taking a legal drug it wont really be a problem if he does as long as its not during the season)

i remember tim williams and derek barnett's film being the most fun i had this off season - so im going back to watch tim's tape all over again... and again... and again

[Sami84]

I'll tell you who he reminds me the most of - Robert Mathis

 

He's the best PURE rusher in the draft IMO

[ravensnation5220]

59 minutes ago, rossihunter2 said:

yeah all his drug issues outside of the gun possession arrest were 3 years ago or more - there were no reports he failed his combine drugs test and he's got responsibilities now to his family --> the gun possession thing was weird but seemed to be a misunderstanding, the drugs thing i couldnt really care about as long as he doesnt do them anymore (and once the NFL gets past its archaic punishments for taking a legal drug it wont really be a problem if he does as long as its not during the season)

i remember tim williams and derek barnett's film being the most fun i had this off season - so im going back to watch tim's tape all over again... and again... and again

Amen. Tims tape was a ton of fun. Speaking about tape....not much out there of Bowser. Pretty dissapointed about that lol

[Ravenskid52752]

59 minutes ago, ravensnation5220 said:

Amen. Tims tape was a ton of fun. Speaking about tape....not much out there of Bowser. Pretty dissapointed about that lol

Yeah 3 games is not enough to really see who he is as a player. The Memphis game they had him just setting the edge and Covering Backs and TE's. The other two Cincinnati and  Louisville you see the potential what he could be as a pass rusher he was all over Lamar Jackson in that game. I see Hassan Reddick in him  but not as Polish as hassan as a pass rusher but he covers better than hassan does now. 

[Cville-Raven]

1 hour ago, ravensnation5220 said:

Amen. Tims tape was a ton of fun. Speaking about tape....not much out there of Bowser. Pretty dissapointed about that lol

I had the same feeling trying to find full games of Perrriman. 

[balfan23]

43 minutes ago, Ravenskid52752 said:

Yeah 3 games is not enough to really see who he is as a player. The Memphis game they had him just setting the edge and Covering Backs and TE's. The other two Cincinnati and  Louisville you see the potential what he could be as a pass rusher he was all over Lamar Jackson in that game. I see Hassan Reddick in him  but not as Polish as hassan as a pass rusher but he covers better than hassan does now. 

I noted that when Louis Riddick commented on Bowser, he said his team tended to put him too often in coverage, rather than letting him cut loose and get after the QB ... something he said he'll get plenty opportunity to do when he joins the Ravens. 

The sense is that he didn't compile the kinds of stats that are sought after 1st round edge rush talent, at least in part because of the way he was utilized, but that the skill is there for him to be a very effective pass rusher going forward. 

[ellicottraven]

3 hours ago, polynesian15 said:

He does look a bit light (244 lbs), upper body especially. How much do you think he needs to gain to maximize his potential?

Von Miller is 6'3" and 250 now. So, my feeling is just as a matter of course under Saunders, he'll put in 5-6 pounds over the course of the year and get stronger perhaps. Based on the 'science' video I say he is supposed to have legs the size of Arik Armstead of SF who is a 6'7" giant! So that's where he gets his explosion I suppose.

[balfan23]

The time finally came where the FO knew it was time to act to get our edge rushers of the future. After we got Bowser, I thought ... well, we need O line still and a WR would be nice ... but man, if Williams is still there when we pick again - I don't care what other positions we need - this is a steal! 

I know it may be premature ... but I really feel like we've just picked up the guys who will produce more than half the teams sacks over the next 5-10 years. 

Welcome Tim ... get out there and Play Like a Raven! 

[allblackraven]

4 minutes ago, ellicottraven said:

Von Miller is 6'3" and 250 now. So, my feeling is just as a matter of course under Saunders, he'll put in 5-6 pounds over the course of the year and get stronger perhaps. Based on the 'science' video I say he is supposed to have legs the size of Arik Armstead of SF who is a 6'7" giant! So that's where he gets his explosion I suppose.

Mentioned this already but his weight is not an issue at all. He played last season at 252/253 lbs.

That's 115kg of quick twich muscle

[ellicottraven]

2 minutes ago, allblackraven said:

Mentioned this already but his weight is not an issue at all. He played last season at 252/253 lbs.

That's 115kg of quick twich muscle

So where did they come up with the 244 lbs? In any event, Muhammed Ali was the Greatest at 6'31/2 - 212 lbs!

[ellicottraven]

Just going by all the responses on welcoming Tim Williams, it seems the fan base is most excited about this guy!

[allblackraven]

Just now, ellicottraven said:

So where did they come up with the 244 lbs? In any event, Muhammed Ali was the Greatest at 6'31/2 - 212 lbs!

He dropped a bit for combine.

[RavensFanMania]

On 4/29/2017 at 6:52 PM, Jacquouille said:

http://draftbreakdown.com/exclusive-interview-with-alabamas-tim-williams/

Thanks you for posting this.  I'm so psyched and I'm not sure which of our picks in the first three rounds is going to be the best.  I believe Williams, Bowser and Humphrey has an excellent chance to be a stud and I went back and watched more tape on Wormley and feel he will fit well as a 5 t in the Ravens system with the ability to move inside in nickel.

i believe all of the 2nd and 3rd rounders will have a significant role in our defense.  It wouldn't surprise me if Williams starts this year in Dumervilles spot day 1. 

How may days for the season to start....