2017 NFL Draft Day 3 "Game Thread"

[hn68wb4]

1 minute ago, terps85 said:

Not sure this really indicates they are moving away from zone.  While he is powerful, he's still really athletic.

They've said in pressers that we're moving to more of a power run scheme...

[allblackraven]

So, what's the deal with Siragusa? Ranked 2nd in both pass and run, had the best combine of all the guards, yet nobody was really talking about him and he dropped to mid 4th in underwhelming OL class? Who is crazy here?

[BOLDnPurPnBlacK]

Just now, Sami84 said:

here is the thing about mangold. his ony reall decline has come in the run game..in pass protection he is still elite

And his only decline coincided with injury. 

Last time he was fully healthy he was a pro bowler 3 of 4 years. Still can be a very good player.... and he was surrounded by garbage in NY. Slotting next to Yanda could help extend his career. 

[hn68wb4]

I'm going to be upset when Des King goes off the board, but until then I'm happy

[PuRock]

Really happy about the Sirgausa pick.  He was one of the solid talents left on the OL.  We add Mangold, move Lewis to RT and we are looking pretty solid.  Just lacking depth.  

[Underdogsontop!]

1 minute ago, LosT_in_TranSlatioN said:

Yup. I actually like the oline now. I hope my boy Guerillmo falls and we get Mangold so we can let him develop. I wonder if we take another guard, and put Yanda at center?

Yanda is such a Beast, he could play ILB if our FO asked. I'm pretty sure he'd be a great Center.

[LosT_in_TranSlatioN]

Just now, allblackraven said:

So, what's the deal with Siragusa? Ranked 2nd in both pass and run, had the best combine of all the guards, yet nobody was really talking about him and he dropped to mid 4th in underwhelming OL class? Who is crazy here?

 

 

He did play at SDSU, which isn't exactly world renowed for football. 

 

That being said, I think we got a steal here. I had Siragusa going the top of round three. 

Edited Saturday at 05:14 PM by LosT_in_TranSlatioN

[ByTheBay]

And just like that Ozzie is a genius again. You guys are too funny

[mc_red23]

That's a group of very good players for the Bengals

[Moderator 3]

Just now, ByTheBay said:

You guys are too funny

We work hard at it.

[PuRock]

Bengals going crazy heavy on offense.

It's crazy how Steelers, Bengals, and Browns are going more dynamic on offense.  Adding weapons left and right.  We are going in the opposite direction and loading up on D.  

[BOLDnPurPnBlacK]

Just now, allblackraven said:

So, what's the deal with Siragusa? Ranked 2nd in both pass and run, had the best combine of all the guards, yet nobody was really talking about him and he dropped to mid 4th in underwhelming OL class? Who is crazy here?

I think part of it is scheme fit. He can't play in a zone blocking scheme and most teams are running strictly zone or a heavy dose these days. 

He can run some inside zone as long as it's not your bread and butter. But he's strictly a power, man blocker. 

 

So theres just a lot of teams that no matter how good and powerful a blocker he may be just doesn't have the movement skills or athleticism to fit their scheme. 

[jdynamite]

Man the Bengals got Josh Malone how many WRs do they need my gosh. 

 

[The Raven]

His pass blocking is really good, too, for a stereotype mauler. Typically big nasties suck at pass pro but not this guy.

My take on offensive line has always been to get guys that move people and let them do it with gusto. This guy is a mover.

[hn68wb4]

I love day 3, picks just start flying off the board, none of that waiting crap in the first 2 days

[polynesian15]

5 minutes ago, The Raven said:

He ain't no zone blocker so that shows a lot about where we're going but holy moly this guy next to Stanley? With Yanda two slots down? We finally have that nasty, mean bully.

Could you briefly explain the main differences between power and zone blocking schemes to a noob such as myself?
I believe we (effectively) used power blocking during the super bowl run, and then for some reason decided to ditch it the next season in favor of zone blocking?

Cheers

[ravensnation5220]

Nico had a 31 wonderlic score. Hes really smart and could get alomg with Urchel lol

[ALSKAN RAVEN FAN]

Today is good because a lot of guys drafted today have a chip on their shoulder just because they feel they should have went earlier or they feel they are better than some of the guys that went before them. A lot of these guys come into the league with a chip on their shoulder and tonight we get to see who has a real chip on their shoulder with the phones going crazy to try and get undrafted free agents. The nice thing about the undrafted guys is they probably have a chip on their shoulder and they actually have a say in where they play. cant wait GO RAVENS!!!

[Cillmatic]

I think we just got ANOTHER late round O-line steal.

[PuRock]

2 minutes ago, LosT_in_TranSlatioN said:

He did play at SDSU, which isn't exactly world renowed for football. 

 

That being said, I think we got a steal here. I had Siragusa going the top of round three. 

Yea, I think its the fact he was facing off against lesser competition.  A lot of the scouting reports talked about his lack of athleticism.  But then he put up good combine numbers.  So there is definitely steal potential here.  With some better quality coaching, we could unlock something.  

[RavensDieHard21]

1 minute ago, PuRock said:

Bengals going crazy heavy on offense.

It's crazy how Steelers, Bengals, and Browns are going more dynamic on offense.  Adding weapons left and right.  We are going in the opposite direction and loading up on D.  

Defense wins championships. Our soon to be elite defense will be ready to lay the hammer come September.

[Edgar]

Love Mel Kiper.

Siragusa just mauls players.

 

[ravensnation5220]

Just now, polynesian15 said:

Could you briefly explain the main differences between power and zone blocking schemes to a noob such as myself?
I believe we (effectively) used power blocking during the super bowl run, and then for some reason decided to ditch it the next season in favor of zone blocking?

Cheers

Power blocking involves a lot of pulling gaurds and tackles. Zone is more like a stretch run. The line kinda slides alomg the line and the running back is supposed to find cut back lanes

[allblackraven]

2 minutes ago, PuRock said:

Really happy about the Sirgausa pick.  He was one of the solid talents left on the OL.  We add Mangold, move Lewis to RT and we are looking pretty solid.  Just lacking depth.  

What do you mean, Hurst signed his RFA sheet.

[BOLDnPurPnBlacK]

Hmmmm Roberts goes ahead of Butt, Kittle, and Hodges  

 

confused....

[Sami84]

Just now, Edgar said:

Love Mel Kiper.

Siragusa just mauls players.

 

 

with a surname like that, mauling is just natural 

[PuRock]

Siragusa seems like a Harbaugh pick.  High character but plays with a nasty side.  

[ravensnation5220]

Just now, BOLDnPurPnBlacK said:

Hmmmm Roberts goes ahead of Butt, Kittle, and Hodges  

 

confused....

Ya Im really surprised Butt, Kittle and Hodges are available. I think the patriots will grab one of them

[hn68wb4]

1 minute ago, allblackraven said:

What do you mean, Hurst signed his RFA sheet.

Hardy har har. It's unprofessional to joke about tragedies that are so recent.

[ravensnation5220]

Just now, PuRock said:

Siragusa seems like a Harbaugh pick.  High character but plays with a nasty side.  

Dont forget hes really really smart player too.